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Warren Buffett adds BILLION to Gates Foundation!

Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 01:48
COMMENTARY: Once the dust settles, this will be the largest charity in the world. I found it interesting that the two richest men in the world are donating almost everything they have earned over their lifetimes to a charity that deals primarily with health issues involving third-world nations. Your thoughts???


Buffett Giving Billions to Gates Charity


June 26, 2006 12:36 AM EDT
OMAHA, Neb. - The world's second-richest man, Warren Buffett, became one of the world's biggest philanthropists Sunday with the announcement that he would bequeath the bulk of his roughly $44 billion fortune to the foundation established by billionaire Bill Gates and his wife.

The decision to start giving next month through annual stock donations represents a stark reversal for the investment wizard, who for years had said his wealth would be pledged to philanthropies after his death.

Buffett's gift will radically boost the resources of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is already the world's largest philanthropy with assets of more than $29 billion.

Earlier this month, the world's richest man and Microsoft Corp. co-founder decided to give up his daily duties at the software company in 2008 to spend more time at his foundation, which is considered a leader in international public health, particularly in the fight against HIV, malaria and tuberculosis.

Gates also serves as a board member of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., Buffett's investment conglomerate, and the men socialize regularly.

The 75-year-old Berkshire chairman and CEO had been expected to leave his vast holdings of Berkshire stock largely to the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation, begun by Buffett and his late wife. That foundation has given millions of dollars to hospitals, universities and teachers, as well as to Planned Parenthood and other abortion rights groups.

Buffett said he plans to give away 12,050,000 Class B shares of Berkshire Hathaway stock to the foundations, but he will have to convert some of his 474,998 Class A shares to complete the gifts. One Class A share, which sold for $92,100 on Friday, can be converted into 30 Class B shares, which sold for $3,071 Friday.

The gifts would be worth nearly $37 billion based on Friday's closing share price.

Buffett's assistant Debbie Bosanek said Buffett would not be available to comment Sunday. But letters outlining the gifts were posted on the company's Web site, and Buffett explained his decision in an interview with a Fortune magazine editor, Carol Loomis. She has edited Buffett's annual letter to shareholders for several years.

Buffett told Fortune that he decided to start giving his money away now because he has been impressed with Bill and Melinda Gates and the work they've done through their foundation. And he decided it would be easier to give to a large foundation instead of trying to expand his own foundation.

"What can be more logical, in whatever you want done, than finding someone better equipped than you are to do it?" Buffett told the magazine. "Who wouldn't select Tiger Woods to take his place in a high-stakes golf game? That's how I feel about this decision about my money."

Andy Kilpatrick, a stockbroker who wrote "Of Permanent Value, the Story of Warren Buffett," called the announcement remarkable, but said he always expected something more to develop from the relationship between Buffett and Gates.

"It's Buffett and Gates merging in a way for charitable purposes," Kilpatrick said.

Buffett has long said limiting the spread of nuclear weapons is the greatest challenge facing mankind. And Kilpatrick said Buffett probably agrees with the Gateses' concerns about population control, disease and education.

In a statement, Bill and Melinda Gates applauded Buffett's decision.

"We are awed by our friend Warren Buffett's decision to use his fortune to address the world's most challenging inequities, and we are humbled that he has chosen to direct a large portion of it to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation," the couple said.

Buffett suggested that his children should focus their charitable resources on needs that would not be met otherwise.

"Focus the new funds and your energy on a relatively few activities in which HGB (Howard G. Buffett Foundation) can make an important difference," Buffett wrote. He included the same paragraph of advice in the letters to each of his children.

Buffett said he plans to earmark 10 million B shares for the Gates Foundation, 1 million B shares for the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation named in honor of his wife and 350,000 shares for the three foundations run by each of his children.

Buffett plans to give each foundation 5 percent of his total pledge each year in July.

In the interview with Fortune, Buffett acknowledged that the foundations may sell off the Berkshire stock to raise cash. But Buffett said he doesn't think that will affect the price of the stock because the gifts will be spread over time.

"I would not be making the gifts if they would in any way harm Berkshire's shareholders," Buffett told Fortune. "And they won't."

But Kilpatrick said this announcement is still likely to prompt some people to sell Berkshire stock on Monday morning. Kilpatrick said he doesn't think this will hurt the company in the long run especially because it might be added to the S&P 500 index in the future, which would help the stock.

Buffett's health has been the subject of speculation. He has said a succession plan is in place at Berkshire but refuses to name a successor.

In the letters, Buffett wrote, "My doctor tells me that I am in excellent health, and I certainly feel that I am."

Berkshire owns a diverse mix of more than 60 companies, including insurance, furniture, carpet, jewelry, restaurants and utility firms. And it has major investments in such companies as H&R Block Inc., Anheuser-Busch Cos. and Coca-Cola Co.
New Granada
27-06-2006, 01:53
It is the most noble use of the money and where it will do the most good.
Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 02:00
It is the most noble use of the money and where it will do the most good.
I agree. The whole thing fascinates me.
Bottle
27-06-2006, 02:01
I'm sorry, I simply cannot conceive of that much money.
Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 02:03
I'm sorry, I simply cannot conceive of that much money.
Heh! Me either, but ain't it great what they plan to do with it!
IL Ruffino
27-06-2006, 02:07
Yay!
Bottle
27-06-2006, 02:10
Heh! Me either, but ain't it great what they plan to do with it!
I guess so. But I'm kinda pissed off...I donated $200 to the Gates Foundation last year, and now Buffet goes and makes me look like a cheapskate. What a jerk.
Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 02:11
I guess so. But I'm kinda pissed off...I donated $200 to the Gates Foundation last year, and now Buffet goes and makes me look like a cheapskate. What a jerk.
LOL! :p
IL Ruffino
27-06-2006, 02:13
I guess so. But I'm kinda pissed off...I donated $200 to the Gates Foundation last year, and now Buffet goes and makes me look like a cheapskate. What a jerk.
I hate rich snobs too!
Maraque
27-06-2006, 02:13
That's incredible.
Bottle
27-06-2006, 02:14
LOL! :p
I'm gonna show that bastard, though, you wait and see. He may be able to donate the most dollars, but I'm gonna donate the most bottle caps they've ever seen.

They can melt them down and use them to build a statue in my honor. Or, you know, use them for something helpful. Like a food-making factory.
Dinaverg
27-06-2006, 02:15
Didn't I see this before?
Bottle
27-06-2006, 02:15
I hate rich snobs too!
Bastards keep thinking that they get to "spend" the money that "belongs" to them. And they always go and blow it on selfish things like feeding hungry children or providing medical care for the impoverished.
Dinaverg
27-06-2006, 02:16
I guess so. But I'm kinda pissed off...I donated $200 to the Gates Foundation last year, and now Buffet goes and makes me look like a cheapskate. What a jerk.

Yeah, but just show them how much more money he kept compared to you.
Myrmidonisia
27-06-2006, 02:18
COMMENTARY: Once the dust settles, this will be the largest charity in the world. I found it interesting that the two richest men in the world are donating almost everything they have earned over their lifetimes to a charity that deals primarily with health issues involving third-world nations. Your thoughts???

Damn Capitalists. Don't they know they aren't supposed to provide charity? Next thing you know, Communist countries will start having free markets.
IL Ruffino
27-06-2006, 02:19
Didn't I see this before?
On.. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, etc..
IL Ruffino
27-06-2006, 02:21
Bastards keep thinking that they get to "spend" the money that "belongs" to them. And they always go and blow it on selfish things like feeding hungry children or providing medical care for the impoverished.
They're real asshole, ya know.
Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 02:48
Bastards keep thinking that they get to "spend" the money that "belongs" to them. And they always go and blow it on selfish things like feeding hungry children or providing medical care for the impoverished.
Yeah! Shame on them! Shame, I say! :p
Unrestrained Merrymaki
27-06-2006, 02:48
The whole idea that these two guys are doing this gives me kind of a high almost. Its like some fucking kind of miracle. I believe it is unprecedented. BUT, WHAT IF.....

Everybody got on the bandwagon? If you donate to charity the government gets no say so whatsoever about how it is spent. If you leave it to your kids, the feds keep 60% and spend it on misiles and CIA circle jerks.

I think its brilliant. Especially for Bill Gates who everyone thought was the anti-christ. Yay Bill!
Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 02:49
Damn Capitalists. Don't they know they aren't supposed to provide charity? Next thing you know, Communist countries will start having free markets.
Oh noez!!!ELEVEN1111!!
Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 02:51
The whole idea that these two guys are doing this gives me kind of a high almost. Its like some fucking kind of miracle. I believe it is unprecedented. BUT, WHAT IF.....

Everybody got on the bandwagon? If you donate to charity the government gets no say so whatsoever about how it is spent. If you leave it to your kids, the feds keep 60% and spend it on misiles and CIA circle jerks.

I think its brilliant. Especially for Bill Gates who everyone thought was the anti-christ. Yay Bill!
Agreed! Agreed!
Eutrusca
27-06-2006, 02:53
It sure is nice to see some GOOD news for a change. :)
IL Ruffino
27-06-2006, 02:53
Oh noez!!!ELEVEN1111!!
Still energetic..
Demented Hamsters
27-06-2006, 02:56
Didn't I see this before?
This thread does remind me of the time I had Deja vu.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489332

OH, and it's $37Bill, not $44. The selfish bastard is keeping a few bill back for himself and his kids.
IL Ruffino
27-06-2006, 03:00
This thread does remind me of the time I had Deja vu.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489332

OH, and it's $37Bill, not $44. The selfish bastard is keeping a few bill back for himself and his kids.
Yay I'm not going crazy! I knew $44b had to be wrong!
B0zzy
27-06-2006, 03:02
I think it is a complete waste. That money could have instead been given to the government in the form of income, capital gains and estate taxes. The government could put the money to much better use than any foundation could. How selfish of these rich bastards.
Myrmidonisia
27-06-2006, 03:05
Oh noez!!!ELEVEN1111!!
Hey, I'm not familiar with that language. Can you translate?
Vetalia
27-06-2006, 03:10
I think it is a complete waste. That money could have instead been given to the government in the form of income, capital gains and estate taxes. The government could put the money to much better use than any foundation could. How selfish of these rich bastards.

High-fives for government waste! I'm sure we know that the government would spend the money in the best way possible.;)
Blood has been shed
27-06-2006, 14:18
:rolleyes: High-fives for government waste! I'm sure we know that the government would spend the money in the best way possible.;)

Hey all that money could have been used to fund almost 1/6th of the Iraq war! And you call it waste.
B0zzy
28-06-2006, 00:31
And Warren wants the rest of us to pay more taxes! :rolleyes:
Commonalitarianism
28-06-2006, 01:48
It doesn't change much in a way. They are still ruthless sharks. Carnegie was a ruthless bastard who tried to make it up with charity. It is pretty standard. I congratulate them on building permanent monuments to themselves for the future. At least Gates and Buffett tried to be decent from the start unlike Carnegie.
New Granada
28-06-2006, 02:25
And Warren wants the rest of us to pay more taxes! :rolleyes:


Leave it to some armchair idiot like Warren Buffett who doesn't know the first thing about money or finance to recommend we pay more taxes!