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WC: Brazil vs. Ghana

The Cathunters
26-06-2006, 23:01
Last 1/8 day!

This time is the Penta vs. The Pride of Africa!

Who will win? The survivor of this fight will face the winner of the Spain-France match.

Time to play!
The Cathunters
26-06-2006, 23:03
¡Allez, allez, Ghana, Allez, Allez! :D
The Ogiek People
26-06-2006, 23:06
Of course, the smart money is on Brazil, but a Ghana win is not out of the question if they play inspired (like they did against Czech Rep.) and Brazil comes out a little flat (like they did against Croatia).
Miss Holy See
26-06-2006, 23:08
It'll be a wonderful match to watch!!!

Although Brazil will probably win, Ghana is a strong team. I'd like to see them giving the Seleçao lots of trouble. :D
La Provincia di Roma
26-06-2006, 23:08
As much as I would love to see Ghana win against Brazil, I doubt it will happen. I call for a 2-0 Brazil win. My predictions will be that Roberto Carlos and Kaka will score for the Brazilians. I hope Ghana wins. Anyways, Forza Italia!
The Cathunters
26-06-2006, 23:10
Spain vs. France Poll (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489462)
The Cathunters
26-06-2006, 23:14
BTW, Robinho's definitely not playing the match, he's injured. One less weapon.
AB Again
26-06-2006, 23:17
Ghana will cause Brazil problems. Ronaldo will not be able to rumble through the defence as the Ghanaians are too strong. Robinho is out with a muscle injury so it will be down to the Brazilian midfield and Adriano to score. (If Parreira would drop Ronaldo for Fred, then Brazil will do better, but he won't). If Ghana can avoid giving away free kicks in dangerous areas I can see an upset happening, but I don't think they will be able to avoid this.

Brazil by 2 with the goals coming from set pieces.
Ravea
26-06-2006, 23:28
I'm rooting for Ghana, by thirty goals.

...

Mabey the Brazilians will all fall asleep or die in an accident or something?
Boonytopia
27-06-2006, 09:27
I'd love to see Ghana win, but I really can't see it happening.

Brazil 3 - 1 Ghana
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 11:11
I'd love to see Ghana win, but I really can't see it happening.

Brazil 3 - 1 Ghana
What he said.

But I'll be rooting for an upset the whole time through. Just how cool would that be? :p
Harlesburg
27-06-2006, 11:14
Come one Ghana!
Boonytopia
27-06-2006, 11:22
What he said.

But I'll be rooting for an upset the whole time through. Just how cool would that be? :p

That'd be a win worth celebrating! Newby African upstarts knock over the kings of football. :p

Either way, I reckon it'll be a good match, but I'll definitely be barracking for Ghana.
Zolworld
27-06-2006, 12:33
Ghana are very strong and athletic, but a little disorganised. I think Ronaldo will score. he may be a fatty but hes still got it. 2-0.
Pepe Dominguez
27-06-2006, 12:36
Ghana squeaks by, 3-1.
Meat and foamy mead
27-06-2006, 12:43
I'm VERY much looking forward to this game! Ghana has guts and skilled players and underdogs have nothing to loose. Brasil, on the other hand, has everything to loose. Unless they win :)

I definatly cheer for Ghana. It's fun to see an african team that is actually good and it's also nice to see a new team succeeding instead of the old usual ones.
Meat and foamy mead
27-06-2006, 12:45
BTW, Robinho's definitely not playing the match, he's injured. One less weapon.

Yes, now they only have 9 more weapons to use :p
The German Rich
27-06-2006, 13:01
Brazil - Ghana 3:0 ,
I think.
Regatear
27-06-2006, 13:11
I personally think that Ghana has gotten lucky these past few games, and that Brazil will probably win closely, though.

But an upset would be fun.:)
AB Again
27-06-2006, 13:21
It is amusing to see the majority of the posts supporting Ghana, but the voting being more than 2 to 1 in favour of Brazil. Being an Englishman in Brazil I would love Ghana to win, but I don't see it happening.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 14:05
Lets go Ghana.
Aelosia
27-06-2006, 14:07
Brazil must win, that way España can eliminate them in the next phase and we can laugh at them for the rest of eternity
AB Again
27-06-2006, 14:13
Brazil must win, that way España can eliminate them in the next phase and we can laugh at them for the rest of eternity

You mean to say that you won't laugh at them if they lose to Ghana!
Aelosia
27-06-2006, 14:20
You mean to say that you won't laugh at them if they lose to Ghana!

Nah, if they lose to Ghana I'll laugh for 4 years, chuckling.

If they lose to Spain I'll laugh louder and forever.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:05
Tubby scores! Ghana down 0-1
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 16:07
Indeed. And he gets the record for most WC goals. I want Ghana to win but I dunno if they can...
Ranholn
27-06-2006, 16:11
Ghana may be the biggest diamond in the ruff here, heck they thumped 2nd ranked team and beat america as well. They are no push overs, unlike what alot of americans thought. But they arnt facing a team like america again. they are facing the best team in the world, the team alot of people will think will win this so I think unless something happens to really cripple brazil:sniper: that ghana really wont be able to come out of this, but they sure can make it a fun game to watch
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:12
Indeed. And he gets the record for most WC goals. I want Ghana to win but I dunno if they can...

Well, they can't defend all game. They have to score goals, and only Japan has scored against Brazil so far.
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 16:13
BTW, Robinho's definitely not playing the match, he's injured. One less weapon.
Neither is Essien and he's the captain(I think) of Ghana.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:13
Indeed. And he gets the record for most WC goals. I want Ghana to win but I dunno if they can...

Well, they can't defend all game. They have to score goals, and only Japan has scored against Brazil so far.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:18
Neither is Essien and he's the captain(I think) of Ghana.

I think Essien got sent off last game.
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 16:21
Well, they can't defend all game. They have to score goals, and only Japan has scored against Brazil so far.

I think Brazil learned their lesson with that goal by watching how they came out. I mean a goal in the first five!
Ranholn
27-06-2006, 16:21
Well, they can't defend all game. They have to score goals, and only Japan has scored against Brazil so far.

and look what happend to them...
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:24
and look what happend to them...

Tubby got them ...
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 16:30
Brazil is up 1-0 and Ghana is attacking and kicks it over the bar.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:32
I think Essien got sent off last game.
No, he picked up two yellows in the first three games, so he's suspended for this match.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:32
Interesting - possession is 53:47 in favour of Ghana.
Manfigurut
27-06-2006, 16:34
It would own if Ghana would win, go Ghana!!!
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:35
Interesting - possession is 53:47 in favour of Ghana.

They are attacking but without much luck.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 16:36
Man, put the ball into the goal already, Ghana! *gritting teeth*
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 16:36
STOP KICKING IT OVER THE BAR DAMNIT STOP!!!!!! IN THE GOAL PLEASE!!!!![/rant]
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:38
They are attacking but without much luck.
They've had a number of chances (six according to the BBC), but their finishing is letting them down. The shots they've had on target have all been easy for the keeper to deal with.

Fourth yellow for Ghana (fifth of the match). Brazil could exploit this towards the end of the match when the Ghanaian defenders are getting tired and still walking the tightrope of being on a yellow.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 16:41
OH so close again :(
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:41
They've had a number of chances (six according to the BBC), but their finishing is letting them down. The shots they've had on target have all been easy for the keeper to deal with.

Fourth yellow for Ghana (fifth of the match). Brazil could exploit this towards the end of the match when the Ghanaian defenders are getting tired and still walking the tightrope of being on a yellow.

Brazil smacked Japan 4-1 with four goals in the 2nd half, so the fitness factor is going to matter here.

and Ghana *ALMOST* scored ...
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 16:43
Juan of Brazil got carded and it was much deserved too.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:44
Brazil smacked Japan 4-1 with four goals in the 2nd half, so the fitness factor is going to matter here.

and Ghana *ALMOST* scored ...
It was 1-1 at half time - Ronaldo scored in the 47th minute of the first half. [/nitpick]

But yes, you're right.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:44
Juan of Brazil got carded and it was much deserved too.

Studs up and could have been very nasty.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 16:45
Aw, fuck. 2:0 Brazil.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 16:45
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

2-0 Brazil :(

*note* That was Brazil's 200th World Cup Goal. Congratulations.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:46
Great goal from Brazil. Adriano finishes a sweeping move, even though he was offside. Pity for Ghana, but 2-0 to Brazil.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:46
It was 1-1 at half time - Ronaldo scored in the 47th minute of the first half. [/nitpick]

But yes, you're right.

Oh dear, Ghana down 0-2 ... off-side goal to Brazil.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 16:47
Offside, to boot.
OcceanDrive
27-06-2006, 16:47
Offside not called, Zebras score for Brazil.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 16:48
And that's the half. Brazil 2-0.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:48
Half time, and you've got to say that 2-0 flatters Brazil. I guess 1-0 is more accurate (and Brazil's second was definitely offside), as Ghana's finishing hasn't been great. Apart from that very lucky save by Dida, Ghana haven't really threatened too much despite the possession and chances they've had.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 16:49
And Ghana is still after the ref on that obvious missed call.

Way to go ref. The players shouldn't play if your going to continue to decide the game.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:50
So Ghana need Brazil to go sleepy and concede two goals at least, hmmmmm ... not likely.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 16:50
you've got to say that 2-0 flatters Brazil

You should hear our commentator - he's totally indignant. "Arrogant", "sloppy", "no passion", "fans will be pissed"... and other choice words for brazil. :p
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:51
And Ghana is still after the ref on that obvious missed call.

Way to go ref. The players shouldn't play if your going to continue to decide the game.
Wasn't the ref's fault. He wasn't in a brilliant position to see whether it was offside or not. Blame it on the linesman - he was the one who should have called it.
OcceanDrive
27-06-2006, 16:51
dp
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:52
You should hear our commentator - he's totally indignant. "Arrogant", "sloppy", "no passion", "fans will be pissed"... and other choice words for brazil. :p
He's right. Assuming they go on to beat Ghana, they won't get any further than the quarter finals if they continue to play like this. (I'm expecting Spain to beat France, and Spain will totally whip Brazil based on current form).
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 16:52
*is disappointed*
AB Again
27-06-2006, 16:53
2 - 0 to Brazil but it should be 1 - 1 with Brazil down to 10 men. Juan should be off the field. He made a horrible two footed challenge over by the side line, which the ref did nothing about and then the challenge for which he was booked.

If Ghana had one decent forward or Dida had smaller feet, then Brazil would have conceded at least once.

I hope that Ghana can come back in the second half, as Brazil do not deserve to win this game at the moment. The one good thing they have done in the entire half was the pass from Kaká for the first goal.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 16:53
Wasn't the ref's fault. He wasn't in a brilliant position to see whether it was offside or not. Blame it on the linesman - he was the one who should have called it.

Linesmen are still refs too.
AB Again
27-06-2006, 16:55
The Brazilian commentators are slamming the Seleção here. They are saying that they, the commentators, don't deserve to be put through this much stress (I happen to think that they are spoilt), that they should be able to enjoy this match etc.
OcceanDrive
27-06-2006, 16:55
also.. Ronaldinho kick to the leg was awful .. it was more dangerous play than any of the 4 Ghana plays.. yellow carded by the zebra.
AB Again
27-06-2006, 16:56
also.. Ronaldinho kick to the leg was awful .. it was more dangerous play than any of the 4 Ghana plays.. yellow carded by the zebra.

He always gets away with that kind of thing. I hope FIFA punish him (but they won't, and we all know that)
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:57
Brazil should have had a second when Adriano decided to dive over the keeper instead of squaring it to Ronaldo. I think that might have killed off Ghana as they'd have been 2-0 down after 12 minutes - that would have been a very severe blow to their confidence.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 16:57
Ronaldo looked funny scoring the 1st goal, but he's still effective. :p
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 16:58
Linesmen are still refs too.
When you said ref I assumed you were talking about the guy in the middle. I guess you're right, though.
Transvaal Scottish
27-06-2006, 16:58
That second goal made by Brazil was totally offside! And I remember at least two other times when Brazil was allowed to continue to play, when it was offside! Whats wrong with the linesmen? And the ref? Appears to be biased to me. Brazil almost certainly fouled Ghana near the goal twice, and the ref did nothing.
AB Again
27-06-2006, 17:01
Brazil should have had a second when Adriano decided to dive over the keeper instead of squaring it to Ronaldo. I think that might have killed off Ghana as they'd have been 2-0 down after 12 minutes - that would have been a very severe blow to their confidence.

The BBC seem to think that the ref was right in booking Adriano, I agree with them. So how should Brazil have a second. If we look at every option made by players in the match and then say that x should have scored if so-and-so had done Y, then we can invent whatever result we want for the match as being right.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:02
That second goal made by Brazil was totally offside! And I remember at least two other times when Brazil was allowed to continue to play, when it was offside! Whats wrong with the linesmen? And the ref? Appears to be biased to me. Brazil almost certainly fouled Ghana near the goal twice, and the ref did nothing.

Maybe they hate Ghana or just like portugese better.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:03
When you said ref I assumed you were talking about the guy in the middle. I guess you're right, though.

yep yep. I know I'm right :D
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:03
Brazil two yellows to Ghana's 4.
Demented Hamsters
27-06-2006, 17:04
Is it just me, or are most of the doddgy calls this WC going the way of the traditional football nations?
Not saying it's a definite decision. Perhaps they're better at hiding their fouls to the ref (though obvious in the replays) or the officials just have the assumptions that those teams are better, so give them the benefit of the doubt more often than the other lesser teams.


I still can't understand why a ref can't change/reverse his decision once he's seen a replay. What's wrong with taking a quick look up at the big screen to make sure you've made the right decision?
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 17:06
The BBC seem to think that the ref was right in booking Adriano, I agree with them. So how should Brazil have a second. If we look at every option made by players in the match and then say that x should have scored if so-and-so had done Y, then we can invent whatever result we want for the match as being right.
Eh, sorry, guess that wasn't clear. I meant that Adriano should have passed it to Ronaldo rather than trying to go it alone. Ghana should consider themselves lucky that he did try it by himself. Sorry.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:06
Yellow for kicking it into the stands against Ghana.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 17:06
Brazil two yellows to Ghana's 4.
Make that "Ghana's 5".
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 17:11
Interesting side note: Adriano's yellow card in the 13th minute was the 300th yellow card of the tournament so far, in the 55th game. Not sure if that's a record yet. There have been 24 red cards as well so far, 2 more than the previous record of 22 at France '98.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:13
Interesting side note: Adriano's yellow card in the 13th minute was the 300th yellow card of the tournament so far, in the 55th game. Not sure if that's a record yet. There have been 24 red cards as well so far, 2 more than the previous record of 22 at France '98.

We've long broken the record for yellows and red in the world cup.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:15
Interesting side note: Adriano's yellow card in the 13th minute was the 300th yellow card of the tournament so far, in the 55th game. Not sure if that's a record yet. There have been 24 red cards as well so far, 2 more than the previous record of 22 at France '98.

1 2nd round, 4 quarter-finals, 2 semis and a final left. That record is going be doubled!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 17:15
Lucky Kingston there.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 17:16
We've long broken the record for yellows and red in the world cup.
The record for reds was broken on Sunday in the Portugal - Holland match, when van Bronckhorst was sent off. Apparently the previous record for yellows was 279, which was also broken in the Portugal - Holland match.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:17
Did I just hear that ghana got a red card for arguing that offsides goal?
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:22
Did I just hear that ghana got a red card for arguing that offsides goal?

Red card for dissent? Harry Kewell got away with it (after the game against oddly Brazil)
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:25
Red card for dissent? Harry Kewell got away with it (after the game against oddly Brazil)

I just thought I heard the commentators say that someone on Ghana got a red for that offsides that wasn't called.

I could've heard wrong too.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:25
Is it just me, or are most of the doddgy calls this WC going the way of the traditional football nations?
Not saying it's a definite decision. Perhaps they're better at hiding their fouls to the ref (though obvious in the replays) or the officials just have the assumptions that those teams are better, so give them the benefit of the doubt more often than the other lesser teams.


I still can't understand why a ref can't change/reverse his decision once he's seen a replay. What's wrong with taking a quick look up at the big screen to make sure you've made the right decision?

I wouldn't be a tad surprised.
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:26
YES! I was right. The Head Coach of Ghana got the Red Card. Not a player.
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 17:27
Doitchevik or however you would spell that. He got the red for dissent.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:27
Dida saves a great shot by Ghana, so close (yet so far).
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 17:28
Great chance for Ghana just now, but a good save by the keeper.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:29
YES! I was right. The Head Coach of Ghana got the Red Card. Not a player.

Can't blame him really, but he'd be OK if he was Guus Hiddink.
Allers
27-06-2006, 17:32
Ghana is going to give them and us a lesson of football.
they will win:p
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:39
Yellow followed by the Red and Ghana is down a man.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:40
Gyan is gone, another yellow (another red to the collection) for diving.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 17:40
Missed it. Did he get the yellow/red for diving?

ETA: Nevermind. :D Thanks, Jeruselem.
New Zero Seven
27-06-2006, 17:42
Whats the score right now?!?! :eek:
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:42
GGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3-0 Brazil and that will do it.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:43
Nail in the coffin - Roberto gets a goal

3 - 0
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 17:44
Man, this is the third time I see the Ghana goalie come out waaaaaaayyyyyy of the goal, and I'm only watching this with one eye on the TV.

Their defense sucks. And he has kind of bad judgement.
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 17:47
Damnit! Its Not Fair! Brazil Doesnt Deserve It!
Corneliu
27-06-2006, 17:51
Its over. Brazil wins 3-0.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 17:52
Whoa, Brazil's coach looked mightily pissed. Uh-oh...
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 17:52
Ghana are gone

Brazil to face Spain or France.
Allers
27-06-2006, 17:53
Damnit! Its Not Fair! Brazil Doesnt Deserve It!
agree
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 17:53
Hardly unexpected, but still a flattering result for Brazil. If they play like that again they're not going to get much further.
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 17:53
Ghana are gone

Brazil to face Spain or France.

You mean Brazil to lose to Spain right?
OcceanDrive
27-06-2006, 17:56
1 2nd round, 4 quarter-finals, 2 semis and a final left. That record is going be doubled!and the Argentina VS Germany game is coming!

FIFA hates Argentina.. I bet the calls/cards will be "fair and Balancad" ;) .. just like in the 1990 Final game.
Jeruselem
27-06-2006, 18:01
You mean Brazil to lose to Spain right?

Or repeat of France 98!
AB Again
27-06-2006, 18:08
Or repeat of France 98!

The way Brazil played today, then it matters not which of France and Spain they play, they will be eliminated. If you give opponents that much time on the ball in the last third of the field you will concede goals against any of the teams left in the competition, even Ukraine. Brazil were lucky that they drew Ghana. The USA would have destroyed them.
Philanchez
27-06-2006, 18:08
Or repeat of France 98!

Have you seen my sig? That would be a travesty!
The Ogiek People
27-06-2006, 18:10
Well, I guess the "Brazil of Africa" found out what it is like to play the real thing.

Too, bad. I was hoping for a scrapier performance from the Black Stars.
The Ogiek People
27-06-2006, 18:13
The way Brazil played today, then it matters not which of France and Spain they play, they will be eliminated. If you give opponents that much time on the ball in the last third of the field you will concede goals against any of the teams left in the competition, even Ukraine. Brazil were lucky that they drew Ghana. The USA would have destroyed them.

This is the same U.S. team that only managed to score one goal in the group play? Brazil played down to their opponenet and still won 3-nil.