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Last 1/8 day!

We are watching one of the best teams this year, but always feeble-spirited vs. the old France, full of glory but facing an uncertain future...

Who will win? Time to bet!

¡a Por Ellos, OÉ!

France has been weak as can be during the group stage. It was a disgrace to their team. Their defense had holes in it and they're strikers weren't any better. I want Zidane to play some more games so I want them to win but I'm calling for a 3-1 Spain win. My predictions are that Fernando Torres, Raul, and David Villa will score for Spain and Zinedine Zidane will score for the French. Anyways, Forza Italia!

So we have the Initial Eleven of Spain, that will be

=================Casillas=================

===Sergio Ramos == Pablo == Puyol === Pernía ===

=======Cesc===== Xabi Alonso==== Xavi=======

==================Raúl==================

===========Torres ====== Villa ============

And the Initial XI of France is

GK 16 Barthez
DF 19 Sagnol
DF 15 Thuram
DF 5 Gallas
DF 13 Silvestre
MF 6 Makelele
MF 4 Vieira
MF 22 Ribery
MF 10 Zidane
FW 7 Malouda
FW 12 Henry

Spain are just too good for an ageing and tired France. The French defence will have no answer for the Spanish forwards whilst the Spanish defence will keep Henry (and Trezeguet if he starts) under lock and key.

3 - 1 with the French goal coming from Malouda. The Spanish goals I hope will be 2 from Villa and 1 from the midfield. (Torres is not in my fantasy team)

(Torres is not in my fantasy team)

:fluffle:

Who dared to vote for France? :mp5: :mp5:

Dude, this match is gonna be epic....Spain FTW!

Who dared to vote for France? :mp5: :mp5:

You made it a public poll. Go look!

You made it a public poll. Go look!
:D

And the Initial XI of France is

To my knowledge, Domenech is still keeping his starters a secret.


Spain are just too good for an ageing and tired France.

Alas, you're probably right. I'm not going to give a prediction on this one. I can't say I'm confident, but I don't want to bet against my own country.

ALLEZ LES BLEUS!

To my knowledge, Domenech is still keeping his starters a secret.



Alas, you're probably right. I'm not going to give a prediction on this one. I can't say I'm confident, but I don't want to bet against my own country.


Source that told me the France's eleven (http://www.as.com/futbol/crr/partido.html?p=0189_04_01_0163_0164)

BTW, I should have created the opinion "draw", :D

France will be defeated by Spain. Spain's just been to good recently to fall to France. Do not confide in my logic pertaining to this matter, my vote for the Swiss did not display the desired outcome.

I'm rooting for france to not fall apart...

All logic points to Spain, but given their history in the WC, I'm tempted to think France. That said, I still like Spain, 2-1.


ESPANA!

Espana ganar dos a cero.

Dos cervezas por favor.

Spain 2 - 0 France

May España be victorious! Not on the basis of logic, but of personal reaons.
I don't enjoy guessing, however, I'll postulate that Spain will have one up on France point wise. *nods*
Dos cervezas por favor.
Tiene.

France will get whipped horribly.

Aussie commentators (still with teary eyes) also noted that at least one of the Spanish players is a "certifiable racist", and that the French black players might make that an issue.

I gots nothing on this. :(

Surprise me, Spain and France!

Aussie commentators (still with teary eyes) also noted that at least one of the Spanish players is a "certifiable racist", and that the French black players might make that an issue.

Oh? Which one? I'll have to watch out for that.

Oh? Which one? I'll have to watch out for that.
Hmmm...not just a player. Their coach!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4055395.stm

:fluffle:

Who cares, Torres is so good looking that I almost wish I was gay (and that he was to!). :p

Hmmm...not just a player. Their coach!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4055395.stm

Charming. Just for that, I hope Henry scores two goals.

France will get whipped horribly.

Aussie commentators (still with teary eyes) also noted that at least one of the Spanish players is a "certifiable racist", and that the French black players might make that an issue.

It's a little sad that the aussie commentators have nothing better to do (like scurrying back to their island) than calling a player racist. Wow...what a shocker...there actually is a racist footy player? That has to be a first...
Btw, did anyone notice that the dutch team has nearly no non whites playing for it? Is that thanks to Van Der Saar?

Hmmm...not just a player. Their coach!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4055395.stm

The Ukrainian coach is better:

"The more Ukrainians that play in the national league, the more examples for the young generation. Let them learn from Shevchenko or Blokhin and not from some Zumba-Bumba whom they took off a tree, gave him two bananas and now he plays in the Ukrainian League."

Charming. Just for that, I hope Henry scores two goals.

Count yourself lucky if he even scores one, considering the "help" he gets from his over-the-hill buddies in the midfield.

It's a little sad that the aussie commentators have nothing better to do (like scurrying back to their island) than calling a player racist.
But he is. And they just dropped it as anothe facet to the game that they were previewing. No campaign there, no lies, no nothing. Although Spanish football seems to have an issue with racism (as does Italian football).
And no one has to scurry anywhere. They did extremely well, and they have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.

Btw, did anyone notice that the dutch team has nearly no non whites playing for it? Is that thanks to Van Der Saar?
Probably due to van Basten not thinking they're good enough.

The Ukrainian coach is better:
He's an Easterling, he's excused. Radioactivity killed off most his brain cells. :p

But he is. And they just dropped it as anothe facet to the game that they were previewing. No campaign there, no lies, no nothing. Although Spanish football seems to have an issue with racism (as does Italian football).

But that's the point. Pointing out who is racist doesn't add anything, in any way imaginable, to football. Football is a game and discussions about racism is politics.



And no one has to scurry anywhere. They did extremely well, and they have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.


True, I just dislike the aussie footy team. Though I predict they will sink back into the relatively unknown after Hiddinck (sp...) leaves them. Too bad Hiddinck goes to Russia now, Sweden could use him...our team played like a pack of exhausted hookers the entire WC.

Spain wins easily in OT.

True, I just dislike the aussie footy team.
Weird.

Though I predict they will sink back into the relatively unknown after Hiddinck (sp...) leaves them.
Oh, don't count on it. Hiddink's left clear instructions for what sort of coach they need to get next, and they're following them. And with a bit of money (which they have) and the promise of the good life in Down Under, they can probably get someone decent.
Add to that a recently started new domestic league (the one they had before that was utterly defunct), and the fact that they are now in the Asian rather the Oceanic FIFA category (meaning they'll get to play much more often against much better opposition), I don't think this is the last you'll have seen.
The campaign to qualify for 2010 has already started.

Ah, they're in the asian league now? Well, that's bound to change a lot, I agree. It'll be very interesting to see how Russia will play in the EC in a few years. Or is Hiddink only taking them to the WC in four years?

It'll be very interesting to see how Russia will play in the EC in a few years. Or is Hiddink only taking them to the WC in four years?
He signed a 2.5 year contract starting after the World Cup (US$2.4 million a year...). So that's European Championships first. There is an option for another two years as well, so it probably depends on the performance during that tournament.

NL you have a TG.

NL you have a TG.

Did you kick him out of the fantasy league? ;)

I noticed he's no longer there.

NO PASARAN

I'm really sorry for the french, I've got many french friends but we're going to win comfortably this afternoon. And the racist story is an old one for spanish, I mean, he has explained many times and the word negro is not as ******, is just a definition. That said, I disliked a lot when it happened but he has trained with many different players, from every kind of colour.

Did you kick him out of the fantasy league? ;)

I noticed he's no longer there.

Nah, he kicked himself out, and forgot the ID no and password. :rolleyes:

Nah, he kicked himself out, and forgot the ID no and password. :rolleyes:

:p

I saved my original TG just in case I did something dopey like that. :p

Pfffft, negro is not an insult, for us, spanish speakers. We refer to black people using the words "negro", "negrito" and "mi negro" all the time, and noone seems to be offended.

¡A POR ELLOS!, really, that geriatric institution of France will not stop us, not will the Brasileros.

¡Santiago y cierra España!

Last 1/8 day!

We are watching one of the best teams this year, but always feeble-spirited vs. the old France, full of glory but facing an uncertain future...

Who will win? Time to bet!

Spain and I'm not betting.

Nah, he kicked himself out, and forgot the ID no and password. :rolleyes:
It's the site layout I tells ya! The site layout!

Thanks for the TG, by the way. And guess what I also found out...

Windows saved my input into those boxes. Not that I would've tried that out before asking you. :D

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Tiene.[/QUOTE]
yo tambien por favor :D

Im all for the spain, I just got to love them. Its spain i think its about time they start to do well in this thing. It would be cool if they won the entire show, but thats going to Brazil. Im saying Spain 3-1

Spain. A great attack with a half-decent defence against a group of 11 pretty damn good players who just cannot play as a team. I expect an efficient performance from the Spanish, and they'll win 3-0.

Same as Stalin.

¡A POR ELLOS!

Twenty minutes until kickoff, so...bump.

Hmmm...great start - large sections of the crowd booing the French national anthem.

Just watched the French anthem. Wow. Say what you will about the Spanish team, but at least they didn't draw half their players from another continent. Says a lot about the French when they can't grow their own talent. :p

España!!!!! :eek:

Penalty for Spain...David Villa...scores! 1-0 to Spain!

Probably was a penalty - maybe a little bit soft - but anywhere else on the pitch and no French players would have complained.

1-1! Ribery beats the offside trap, rounds the keeper and slots it home.

AB, from the other thread, "Bem para burro" means you speak Portuguese "pretty damn well", if you will... :p

"Prá burro" is an expression for "very" too...

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm sure you have similar expressions in English (Speaking English "bloody" well doesn't mean "falar inglês com sangue") ;)

Did we just see the first half of football at this World Cup with no yellow cards issued at all?!

83'
Thierry Henry cheating act wins this game. ( so far)

fakes a hit to his face.. gets a yellow card to (star defender) Puyol and a Goal

Gooooooooaaal - that was epic on part of Zidane

Esto siempre es igual.

This is always the saaame, this is always the saa-aa-aa-aame!!

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

Hmmm...not just a player. Their coach!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4055395.stm

Yes, this is a famous situation, the coach saying to Reyes "Say to that f***ing sh***y ni**er that you're better"; but he always maintained he is not racist. He always presumed of being the stepfather of Etoo in football; and it is true: Etoo grew in R.C.D. Mallorca when Aragonés was the coach, and they were (and are) true friends.

AB, from the other thread, "Bem para burro" means you speak Portuguese "pretty damn well", if you will... :p

"Prá burro" is an expression for "very" too...

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm sure you have similar expressions in English (Speaking English "bloody" well doesn't mean "falar inglês com sangue") ;)

Thank you. Expressões sempre podem causar confusão pra estrangeiros.

Yes English has lots of confusiong idiomatic expressions.

Back on topic. France suprised me, but Spain played as they always do in the world cup. they flatter to deceive.

Just watched the French anthem. Wow. Say what you will about the Spanish team, but at least they didn't draw half their players from another continent. Says a lot about the French when they can't grow their own talent.

Erm... All of them are French. Some are the children of immigrants; others are from French overseas territories. None were "plucked out of Africa" as your ignorant comment seems to imply. Strange as it may sound to you, ethnicity isn't a factor of French nationality. They wouldn't be able to play if they weren't citizens of France. They're home-grown talent, just as much as Ribéry, Sagnol, Barthez and the other white players.

And we're not going to apologise for France being considered a very attractive place by immigrants. :p

More importantly:

Wooo!!! BRAVO LES BLEUS!!!

Excellent match. :)

Well done the French.

I thought Spain would wipe the floor with them, but the Spaniards showed yet again that they're the tournament chokers.

Allez les Bleus indeed!

Spain by 2.:(
I have to suffer the fact that my nations number 1 news on tv are a bunch of complete knobjockeys.
They said the result was sealed when Veira scored yet Zidane still managed to find time to score.
therefore Spain could have made a comeback and 'Our News' as they put it sucks.
I have to suffer this every time i want to catch some extra sports news.
Channel 3 is just as bad.

In any case Kudos to France you proved me wrong and once again The great White hype which is Spain fails.:p

Erm... All of them are French. Some are the children of immigrants; others are from French overseas territories. None were "plucked out of Africa" as your ignorant comment seems to imply. Strange as it may sound to you, ethnicity isn't a factor of French nationality. They wouldn't be able to play if they weren't citizens of France. They're home-grown talent, just as much as Ribéry, Sagnol, Barthez and the other white players.

...

Sure they're home grown. Lol.

Sure they're home grown. Lol.
They're all either from French colonies or from France itself. There are two or so exceptions, like Vieira and Makelele, who both moved to France when they were still children.

They're all either from French colonies or from France itself. There are two or so exceptions, like Vieira and Makelele, who both moved to France when they were still children.

Pfhhh. French colonies. Britain has colonies, are those people British.

83'
Thierry Henry cheating act wins this game. ( so far)

fakes a hit to his face.. gets a yellow card to (star defender) Puyol and a Goal
I have to admit that a better team won but this (free kick) was just irritating. grrrrr. girly man.

83'
Thierry Henry cheating act wins this game. ( so far)

fakes a hit to his face.. gets a yellow card to (star defender) Puyol and a Goal
Well, he did fake getting hit in the face, but what actually happened was that Puyol elbowed him in the chest...which is (surprise, surprise) a foul and a yellow card offence. You'd have something to complain about if Puyol had been sent off. I'm not trying to defend Henry - he of all players should be above such acts - but it was a foul and it was a yellow card.

Pfhhh. French colonies. Britain has colonies, are those people British.
No, but if people from there want to play for England then they can. Look at Owen Hargreaves.

Pfhhh. French colonies. Britain has colonies, are those people British.
Yep. They hold British citizenship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories_citizen).

Ask the people in Gibraltar or the Falklands, and after about twenty minutes of coarse language, they will confirm that.

EDIT: And in the French system there seems to be even less of a division:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_overseas_departments_and_territories

Well, he did fake getting hit in the face, but what actually happened was that Puyol elbowed him in the chest...which is (surprise, surprise) a foul and a yellow card offence. You'd have something to complain about if Puyol had been sent off. I'm not trying to defend Henry - he of all players should be above such acts - but it was a foul and it was a yellow card.
ok, I missed that, they didn't show it again on Finnish television.

Yep. They hold British citizenship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories_citizen).

Ask the people in Gibraltar or the Falklands, and after about twenty minutes of coarse language, they will confirm that.

Citizenship means nothing to me. Only blood.

Citizenship means nothing to me. Only blood.
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Well, he did fake getting hit in the face, but what actually happened was that Puyol elbowed him in the chest...which is (surprise, surprise) a foul and a yellow card offence. You'd have something to complain about if Puyol had been sent off. I'm not trying to defend Henry - he of all players should be above such acts - but it was a foul and it was a yellow card.Play the tape.. If what Puyol did is a yellow card foul.. Then we are looking at some 20-30 yellow cards per game..

Play the tape.. If what Puyol did is a yellow card foul.. Then we are looking at some 20-30 yellow cards per game..
I (strangely) don't have a tape of it to hand...but from what I can remember, Puyol elbowed Henry in the chest. Whether it was accidental or not, it's still a yellow card.

I (strangely) don't have a tape of it to hand...but from what I can remember, Puyol elbowed Henry in the chest. Whether it was accidental or not, it's still a yellow card.(from my tape) Puyol arm is straigh (not bended)..

a straigh arm pushing the chest of Thierry-Henry..(not accidental..they are both pushing for position)
would you call that "an elbow to the chest yellow-card-foul" ???

I (strangely) don't have a tape of it to hand...there should be a place in the Internet where they host video clips for phantom zebra calls..

FIFA would probably sue.. (they own the images.. they own everything)
Reminds me of the NHL suing the www.nogoal.com web site :mp5:

Pfhhh. French colonies. Britain has colonies, are those people British.

You make me think that Portugal may be :headbang: ; with Brazil being so deadly, hum...

Let's take over Brazil! :D

I've been at a conference the last two days and missed the Spain-France game. The outcome surprised me.

Was it a good game?

I've been at a conference the last two days and missed the Spain-France game. The outcome surprised me.

Was it a good game?

No it wasn't.

2 shots to Barthez in the second half.