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Here's a question.
As I was perusing the NS "World" page one day, I found several nations whose names and mottoes suggest allegiance to the Nazis. Particularly in a region called "The Pit Stop".
It would be hypocritical of me to suggest that these nations be censored in any way. Then again, I don't have to like them either.
That said, what does the rest of the NS community think of these nations?

Here's a question.
As I was perusing the NS "World" page one day, I found several nations whose names and mottoes suggest allegiance to the Nazis. Particularly in a region called "The Pit Stop".
It would be hypocritical of me to suggest that these nations be censored in any way. Then again, I don't have to like them either.
That said, what does the rest of the NS community think of these nations?


dont think of them any differently than any other nation on NS

Here's a question.
As I was perusing the NS "World" page one day, I found several nations whose names and mottoes suggest allegiance to the Nazis. Particularly in a region called "The Pit Stop".
It would be hypocritical of me to suggest that these nations be censored in any way. Then again, I don't have to like them either.
That said, what does the rest of the NS community think of these nations?
That's one of the nice things about free speech. It lets you know who the assholes are.

They're allowed to exist, IIRC, as long as they follow forum rules and don't use any offensive flags/currencies/national animals.

Plus, there are people who make Nazi nations solely for the purpose of historical roleplaying and do not support or condone the doctrines of the Nazi party. I'd let them stay, because free speech does reign by and large on NS and the administrators see no need to interfere with a person who plays a Nazi nation as long as they follow the rules.

It might throw off a few WWII/Alternative History roleplaying threads as well.

Here's a question.
As I was perusing the NS "World" page one day, I found several nations whose names and mottoes suggest allegiance to the Nazis. Particularly in a region called "The Pit Stop".
It would be hypocritical of me to suggest that these nations be censored in any way. Then again, I don't have to like them either.
That said, what does the rest of the NS community think of these nations?

They're just there. Don't worry about them.

But you've been past the era of Nazi NSers, my friend.

Free speech. They're not as bad as they used to be anyway.

Free speech. They're not as bad as they used to be anyway.

That's what you think...:D
It is all part of our plan to take over the world, starting with the NS forums *evil laugh* :p

That's what you think...:D
It is all part of our plan to take over the world, starting with the NS forums *evil laugh* :p

You're a Nazi?

Only a Nazi would be stupid enough to let his ambitions be known to the entire NS forums.

But the smilies make me think otherwise...:rolleyes:

That's what you think...:D
It is all part of our plan to take over the world, starting with the NS forums *evil laugh* :p

You're not doing a very good job of it, i'm afraid.

I don't agree with them, but the whole free speech thing... Like others said, as long as they follow the rules, I'm fine with them. Also, what do you think THEY think of us. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean their opinion's auto-void.

Meh, Can't say I like them but the whole point of NS is to have your own politcal power to do as you like

I'm member of the antifascist action. And proud of defending the worlds' people of fascist terror, the best I can. In my region (NOT NationStates) Naziterror is a daily problem. Coloured, jewish or left citizens are physically atacked, their homes or club-houses are burned out. 17 people die each year in consequence of fascist convictions. I've been beaten up, several times myself and I tell you: the only way to solve that problem with inhuman thoughts and actions is courage! You see a racist kidding somebody else? Speak up! You see a damn Nazi kickin' someone who's laying on the ground? Help! Beat the nazi scum up! Fight fascism - defend humanity.
Using the Empire War Flag or idolizing the NSDAP (German National-Socialist workers party) (both in many states is illegal) for me is a crime and has to be prosecuted. Where the law fails, everyone has to act not in self-justice but at least in self-responsibility, which I demand the admins to do.

Antifa means Freedom

From what I understand, the main Nazi Nations are simple trolls, designed for the explicit purpose of getting a rise out of others, rather than due to any particular allegiance to the hypothetical Fourth Reich.

From what I understand, the main Nazi Nations are simple trolls, designed for the explicit purpose of getting a rise out of others, rather than due to any particular allegiance to the hypothetical Fourth Reich.

how much salmons did you eat today?

how much salmons did you eat today?
3. Whole and raw. I have a tummy-ache.

I'm member of the antifascist action. And proud of defending the worlds' people of fascist terror, the best I can.And you are not the only one.

Fighting the Nazi scum is the duty of all the freedom loving peoples of the world. It's as simple as that. If you have a Nazi infestation, contact Anti-Fascist Action. AntiFa can put you in touch with local groups, who'll help you organise against the Nazis. Don't be afraid, it's what we're for & we have lots of experience dealing with them.

I was about to joke around that it's not as if we're on the verge of some kind of rebirth of the Nazi party. Unfortunately, I realized I'm probably wrong. At least in Germany, I've heard that neo-fascist parties are in fact growing again, probably in response to the immigrants that are flooding into the country. Can anyone here from Germany confirm this?

Although I'm no supporter of censorship, even of Nazi symbols, I wouldn't be able to use the excuse of the Nazi party's lack of power anymore. Further, as a libertarian, fascist states are the diametric opposite of my ideals.

I was about to joke around that it's not as if we're on the verge of some kind of rebirth of the Nazi party. Unfortunately, I realized I'm probably wrong. At least in Germany, I've heard that neo-fascist parties are in fact growing again, probably in response to the immigrants that are flooding into the country. Can anyone here from Germany confirm this?I don't live in Germany, but I visit regularly. Yes, neo-Nazi & racist movements & parties, are on the rise in most of Europe. Germany included.

Generally speaking, the European nations have failed quite miserably to integrate immigrants. A major backlash is growing as a result. Unfortunately, a lot of people have come to the conclusion that integration is not an option at all, and that neo-Nazi style solutions to ethnic groups & immigration is way forward.

It's sad & pathetic, but true none the less.Although I'm no supporter of censorship, even of Nazi symbols, I wouldn't be able to use the excuse of the Nazi party's lack of power anymore. Further, as a libertarian, fascist states are the diametric opposite of my ideals.I'm not in favour of preventing Nazis & similar scum from speaking their mind. I think it's problematic that it's illegal to strangle the bastards, but I'm absolutely in favour of keeping the bastards where we can see them. Forcing them underground helps no one (except possibly the Nazi scum).

I don't live in Germany, but I visit regularly. Yes, neo-Nazi & racist movements & parties, are on the rise in most of Europe. Germany included.

Generally speaking, the European nations have failed quite miserably to integrate immigrants. A major backlash is growing as a result. Unfortunately, a lot of people have come to the conclusion that integration is not an option at all, and that neo-Nazi style solutions to ethnic groups & immigration is way forward.

It's sad & pathetic, but true none the less.I'm not in favour of preventing Nazis & similar scum from speaking their mind. I think it's problematic that it's illegal to strangle the bastards, but I'm absolutely in favour of keeping the bastards where we can see them. Forcing them underground helps no one (except possibly the Nazi scum).
anti fa won't succed without any populism,know it and learn,Democracy and the net won't help,what is coming is choice and that is what people have to think over...
Soon there will be no choices anymore

And you are not the only one.

Fighting the Nazi scum is the duty of all the freedom loving peoples of the world. It's as simple as that. If you have a Nazi infestation, contact Anti-Fascist Action. AntiFa can put you in touch with local groups, who'll help you organise against the Nazis. Don't be afraid, it's what we're for & we have lots of experience dealing with them.

Thank you! We are not alone! Thousands of people unionize against the nationalist consense in great parts of the worlds society. Join! Fight for democracy and against discrimination!
Support your local AntiFa! The only solution to defend humanity, tolerance and peace is organisation! In nearly every city there's a cell of real democracy you can join. And if not, than found it! Antifascism is not a crime! It's necessary!
Always keep in mind: Fascism is not an opinion.

Fight Fascism! Together! On all levels!

Who will be the modern-day Hitler to lead an upcoming Nazi Party? It doesn't matter they'll probably find someone to follow anyway. I deeply despise Nazis.

A friend I know recently did a paper concerning the youth and neo-nazism. I will try to gather some links and maybe even get ahold of the original transcript. It was quite interesting. As it only contained information about the United States I am afraid I will have to concentrate it on the particular nation.

As you afore mentioned it made a well point of how anarchists, far left leaning students and other affiliations of the like keep most of the Neo-Nazis in the shadows, lurking. With the exceptions of a few very bold, or should we say risky bordering stupid? This makes it very difficult to keep tabs on how many neo-nazis there are in total. There are varying numbers.

However there is also the assumption that all neo-nazis are skinheads, idiots and the likes. That is far from the truth, many are reclusive and as I said believe in their idealogy but away from the spotlight of controversy and refrain from acquiring swastika tattoos, or wearing black, and leathers. Many a times various films or books have tried to warn of this prejudice. Lets take "American History X" or "An Apt Pupil" as examples, both depict a highly intelligent young man ensnared into the movement by various factors. In American History X, the main reasons were the death of the father in relation to "blacks" if I remember right and the increasing crime in the once peaceful suburb. In "an Apt Pupil" it portrays the driving factor as being morbid fascination.

One thing however on which everyone agrees is that the numbers of neo-nazis are growing at an alarming rate. It is judged in the United States that the known population of Neo-nazis increased about ten-fold in the last decade. Also most alarmingly most of the new "converts" to this idealogy are literally children who are recruited while still in high school and are insecure. The neo-nazis are smart in one respect, they are concentrating their whole recruiting effort on the youth, and with obvious success. This they achieve through various methods. The most common is music, they get the "kids" to attend their hate-ridden concerts and give out free cds. Also another vice that tends to attract adolescents is the promise of acceptance, boosted self-esteem, and in general a tight brotherhood. Neo-nazis particularly like targetting adolescent boys without a father role, and put themselves into the father role, seeing that particular demographic as an "easy picking."

However to use a similar terminology, many neo-nazis are "in the closet" so to say for the simple reason of the open aggression for their beliefs. For this reason it is impossible to know how many people exactly have far-right sympathies. We only know those who dress up and parade around and always cause a rucus when dumb (anarchist, far-left and their ilk) meets dumb (neo-nazis) and choas ensues.

So know to the actual point. What is the point of killing neo-nazis whenever they appear in public. You are only killing the dumb ones anyway. There is still the common prejudice that to be a neo-nazi you have to be of incredibly low intelligence and and in general be very dumb. This is however in retro-spect far from the truth. A personal belief set has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence, as I said various films and books already tried to dispell that particular myth. However those who parade around in boots, and scream "Sieg Heil" in public fit the stereotype and are the reason for its existence. However the smarter ones just either work in the background or just adhere to their belief out of the public's eye in private. Also neo-nazism is found in all social levels, bearing, and intelligence levels. For example there are some very rich and successful people with far right tendencies, although most of these for obvious reasons kept it secret for most of their lives until it slipped out,. i.e Van Dutch.

Also what irked me was the sheer stupidity of the last couple of posts. Down with nazism , fight fascism? If someone can tell me how these two make sense I would be very pleased. I will try to portray it so even those of lesser intellect have a chance of understanding it. All Nazis are fascist, but not all fascists are nazis. All Nazis has a core-belief in racism , Fascism does not. Is that clear enough? And yes fascism is a belief just as legitimate as any other. Let me make another comparison for you. Many in the far left are adamant in stating that Stalin and his repressive regime was not communist. Well the same is true with Nazis, nazism is simply a bastardization of Fascism. Fascism on the whole has no despicable aspects per se that should put it in the same league as nazism such as racism. So I must say if you are as poleimic to tandy around with what Stalin's true political affiliation was, and in the same breath equate nazism with fascism, you my friend are not only ignorant but a hypocrite.

As for anti-fascists. In my opinion they are nearly as bad as the nazis themselves, at least the extreme ones. They advocate death and genocide of a whole political entity with which they have an inner conflict with. Hardly a group to look up to, much less align oneself with.

I feel obliged to offer up the U$A under Bu$h as a Nazi state, because that inevitably happens in this Forum.

As for anti-fascists. In my opinion they are nearly as bad as the nazis themselves, at least the extreme ones. They advocate death and genocide of a whole political entity with which they have an inner conflict with. Hardly a group to look up to, much less align oneself with.

Being against fascism means you advocate death and genocide?

Even if what you say is true (it isn't), advocating the death of nazis isn't advocating genocide. Unless you contend there is a nazi gene, I guess.

I don't live in Germany, but I visit regularly. Yes, neo-Nazi & racist movements & parties, are on the rise in most of Europe. Germany included.

Generally speaking, the European nations have failed quite miserably to integrate immigrants. A major backlash is growing as a result. Unfortunately, a lot of people have come to the conclusion that integration is not an option at all, and that neo-Nazi style solutions to ethnic groups & immigration is way forward.

It's sad & pathetic, but true none the less.

That much is evident just from these forums. I Know it's not my imagination that there is a rise of ethnic bigotry coming from Europe. I could name names, but we all know who they are on this site at least.

It is really disturbing to hear their "final solutions." Makes me wonder if maybe Europe is the threat we should be watching, not the Middle East. Do we have to fight WWII all over again?

Being against fascism means you advocate death and genocide?

Even if what you say is true (it isn't), advocating the death of nazis isn't advocating genocide. Unless you contend there is a nazi gene, I guess.



I see you have overlooked the purpose of my post and misquoted it quite severely. To clear it up for you.

I stated that the extreme members of the anti-fascists movements do not shy away from comments such as "kill all those pigs" or "hang them all" and similar comments. And I find this quite distasteful against fascism as a whole. Against nazism an arguement can be made to defend such an overly emotional and loaded comment. However fascism isn't nazism, nor responsible for any of its crimes. That was my point. And as I said for this I view the anti-fascist in a particular bad light. If they would be the anti-nazis then maybe yes I would begrudge them some more respect. However to advocate the dissolution of a whole political idealogy like fascism in my opinion is just wrong and anyone advocating it is merely infringing on human, ethical and free rights of individual people, as fascism has nothing to do with hate of any kind, nor holocaust affiliations and aspirations.

Also not quite, nice try twisting my words there. I said "advocate death and genocide of a whole political entity." Note the word political entity. Where do I state that nazism is in anyway genetic? The word genocide can be used in more than one context. So please keep the "wise guy" number to yourself, as you clearly are either ignorant or misread my post, giving you the benefit of the doubt I will for now contend it was merely an honest misread.

I stated that the extreme members of the anti-fascists movements do not shy away from comments such as "kill all those pigs" or "hang them all" and similar comments. And I find this quite distasteful against fascism as a whole.

Oh, well I'm sure Mussolini and Hitler are very insulted by it, but that really matters little. If fascist supporters can't handle a few comments, then perhaps the whole concept of fascism is more fragile than one would expect.

However fascism isn't nazism, nor responsible for any of its crimes.

Not all fascism may be nazism, but nazism is fascism.

However to advocate the dissolution of a whole political idealogy like fascism in my opinion is just wrong and anyone advocating it is merely infringing on human, ethical and free rights of individual people, as fascism has nothing to do with hate of any kind, nor holocaust affiliations and aspirations.

What is wrong about advocating the dissolution of a political idealogy? Everyone does that!

Also not quite, nice try twisting my words there. I said "advocate death and genocide of a whole political entity." Note the word political entity. Where do I state that nazism is in anyway genetic? The word genocide can be used in more than one context.

Yes, especially if one wants to appeal to emotion, since accusations of genocidal urges is second perhaps only to accusations of nazism as far as emotional pandering goes.

So please keep the "wise guy" number to yourself, as you clearly are either ignorant or misread my post, giving you the benefit of the doubt I will for now contend it was merely an honest misread.

I am neither ignorant nor did I misread. Please keep your insults to yourself.

A friend I know recently did a paper concerning the youth and neo-nazism. I will try to gather some links and maybe even get ahold of the original transcript.You go do that. Most popular depictions of the Nazi movements have nothing or very, very little to do with the real world. That said, internet Nazis are fairly easy to get in touch with, so if you truely want to learn about how they operate when they aren't building bombs in daddy's cellar, all it takes is a modem & some spare time (and of course, the mental capacity to put up with all the insane shit they spew).As for anti-fascists. In my opinion they are nearly as bad as the nazis themselves, at least the extreme ones. They advocate death and genocide of a whole political entity with which they have an inner conflict with. Hardly a group to look up to, much less align oneself with.You apparently don't know what you are talking about.
Fortunately, we anti-Fascists are very easy to get in touch with. Though we value our anonymity, we are not a secretive bunch. We just don't want to find our pictures, names & addresses, and the pictures, names & addresses of our friends, co-workers, girlfriends & children on some Nazi website or hit-list video (Happens occationally).

I suggest you get in touch with some Anti-Fascists & talk to them. Feel free to drop me a TG if you don't know how to use google. You don't have to take my word for anything. Learn about us for yourself.

AntiFa or Anti-Fascist Action, is a very loose network of small groups of people, dedicated to combat neo-Nazi & Fascist groups. We are not some sort of terrorist cells looking for a fight. AntiFa is a tool for communities, to help overcome problems caused by terror gangs.

Local communities rarely know what they can do, when a gang of Nazis move into the neighbourhood, starts harassing the general population & trying to recruit their kids. We do. We know how to organise rallies & keep up morale. We know how to deal with the authorities, so there won't be riots or random violence. We know how you can get rid of the Nazis & we exist to enable YOU to solve the problems. We don't advocate violence & we're not some vigilante gang of Ghost Busters who'll magically make everything OK. We provide help to self-help for communities.

Neo-Nazis & other Fascist groups usually operate on fear. When they take root in a community, they count on a certain amount of paranoia, and if it isn't there, they generate it by cracking heads down the pub or whatever.

The paranoia makes people afraid to stand up to them. Makes them afraid to stand up to them in unity. That means the group won't have to worry abbout people trying to kick them out.

The fear & a moderate amount of attacks on minorities, polarizes the community. Plays the people against eachother. Divide & concour. When the black kids fights back & a shop window gets broken, people stop being sympathetic to the black kids. When a gay couple is put in the hospital, and a couple of well meaning anti-nazis responds & breaks another shop window in the process, people stop being sympathetic to both gays & anti-Nazis.
Soon, parents are telling their kids to watch out for certain people & the grown-ups stop talking to eachother & start to percieve eachother as potential threats.

At that point, the Nazis have won. They've won because their terror's been effective.

We - Anti-Fascist Action - try to prevent this from happening. The only real weapon that works on Nazis & other Fascist terrorists, is unity & unbending opposition.

We are Anti-Fascists, because neo-Nazis aren't the only groups who use terror & violence to promote themselves. They're just the most infamous.

In some communities, in some countries, neo-Nazis & other violent Fascists, can't be defeated simply by standing up to them. These are extreme areas where violent gangs of Nazi thugs are often payed by various authorities & political parties, to hunt down & thoroughly fuck-up certain people. Targets can be anything from outspoken homosexuals & union reps, to punkers & squatters.
In such areas, violent Anti-Fascists do exist. Violence is a fact of life in some places, and the people who fight to defend others right to live without getting curbed (Literally), should be applauded.

Do not, however, make the mistake of thinking this is common or have anything to do with suburbia.That much is evident just from these forums. I Know it's not my imagination that there is a rise of ethnic bigotry coming from Europe. I could name names, but we all know who they are on this site at least.

It is really disturbing to hear their "final solutions." Makes me wonder if maybe Europe is the threat we should be watching, not the Middle East. Do we have to fight WWII all over again?We're not talking about WWI-style final solutions. Isn't quite that bad & Europe isn't about to erupt in race war or any other kind of war.

But it is scary that more & more parties are getting votes by promoting immigration & integration policies that don't meet the Geneva conventions, and that more & more countries fail to abide by UN rules for immigrations & refugees - Especially because their neighbours & allies don't try to do anything about it.
If the EU was even remotely interested in anything besides generating money for corporates, for example, countries like Denmark would suffer heavy handed sanctions or get kicked out entirely. The country doesn't even meet EU rules for the treatment of refugees - a consequence of the government's supporting party being a sort of congregation of various Populist, Fascist & Nazi organisations.

On a funny side-note, AntiFa in Denmark is quite strong, and although the country is a center for much of the propaganda activity of the European Nazi organisations, there are very few Nazis in the country & nearly all of them live in one place - a situation Danish AntiFa (or AFA) deserves most of the credit for. The country is virtually free of Fascist-inspired terror.

EDIT: Cybach, neo-Nazis aren't Skinheads. Skinheads can't be racists. It's a contradiction in terms. But it's true that some of the more violent neo-Nazis dress up like Skinheads.

You go do that. Most popular depictions of the Nazi movements have nothing or very, very little to do with the real world. That said, internet Nazis are fairly easy to get in touch with, so if you truely want to learn about how they operate when they aren't building bombs in daddy's cellar, all it takes is a modem & some spare time (and of course, the mental capacity to put up with all the insane shit they spew).You apparently don't know what you are talking about.
Fortunately, we anti-Fascists are very easy to get in touch with. Though we value our anonymity, we are not a secretive bunch. We just don't want to find our pictures, names & addresses, and the pictures, names & addresses of our friends, co-workers, girlfriends & children on some Nazi website or hit-list video (Happens occationally).

I suggest you get in touch with some Anti-Fascists & talk to them. Feel free to drop me a TG if you don't know how to use google. You don't have to take my word for anything. Learn about us for yourself.

AntiFa or Anti-Fascist Action, is a very loose network of small groups of people, dedicated to combat neo-Nazi & Fascist groups. We are not some sort of terrorist cells looking for a fight. AntiFa is a tool for communities, to help overcome problems caused by terror gangs.

Local communities rarely know what they can do, when a gang of Nazis move into the neighbourhood, starts harassing the general population & trying to recruit their kids. We do. We know how to organise rallies & keep up morale. We know how to deal with the authorities, so there won't be riots or random violence. We know how you can get rid of the Nazis & we exist to enable YOU to solve the problems. We don't advocate violence & we're not some vigilante gang of Ghost Busters who'll magically make everything OK. We provide help to self-help for communities.

Neo-Nazis & other Fascist groups usually operate on fear. When they take root in a community, they count on a certain amount of paranoia, and if it isn't there, they generate it by cracking heads down the pub or whatever.

The paranoia makes people afraid to stand up to them. Makes them afraid to stand up to them in unity. That means the group won't have to worry abbout people trying to kick them out.

The fear & a moderate amount of attacks on minorities, polarizes the community. Plays the people against eachother. Divide & concour. When the black kids fights back & a shop window gets broken, people stop being sympathetic to the black kids. When a gay couple is put in the hospital, and a couple of well meaning anti-nazis responds & breaks another shop window in the process, people stop being sympathetic to both gays & anti-Nazis.
Soon, parents are telling their kids to watch out for certain people & the grown-ups stop talking to eachother & start to percieve eachother as potential threats.

At that point, the Nazis have won. They've won because their terror's been effective.

We - Anti-Fascist Action - try to prevent this from happening. The only real weapon that works on Nazis & other Fascist terrorists, is unity & unbending opposition.

We are Anti-Fascists, because neo-Nazis aren't the only groups who use terror & violence to promote themselves. They're just the most infamous.

In some communities, in some countries, neo-Nazis & other violent Fascists, can't be defeated simply by standing up to them. These are extreme areas where violent gangs of Nazi thugs are often payed by various authorities & political parties, to hunt down & thoroughly fuck-up certain people. Targets can be anything from outspoken homosexuals & union reps, to punkers & squatters.
In such areas, violent Anti-Fascists do exist. Violence is a fact of life in some places, and the people who fight to defend others right to live without getting curbed (Literally), should be applauded.

Do not, however, make the mistake of thinking this is common or have anything to do with suburbia.We're not talking about WWI-style final solutions. Isn't quite that bad & Europe isn't about to erupt in race war or any other kind of war.

But it is scary that more & more parties are getting votes by promoting immigration & integration policies that don't meet the Geneva conventions, and that more & more countries fail to abide by UN rules for immigrations & refugees - Especially because their neighbours & allies don't try to do anything about it.
If the EU was even remotely interested in anything besides generating money for corporates, for example, countries like Denmark would suffer heavy handed sanctions or get kicked out entirely. The country doesn't even meet EU rules for the treatment of refugees - a consequence of the government's supporting party being a sort of congregation of various Populist, Fascist & Nazi organisations.

On a funny side-note, AntiFa in Denmark is quite strong, and although the country is a center for much of the propaganda activity of the European Nazi organisations, there are very few Nazis in the country & nearly all of them live in one place - a situation Danish AntiFa (or AFA) deserves most of the credit for. The country is virtually free of Fascist-inspired terror.

EDIT: Cybach, neo-Nazis aren't Skinheads. Skinheads can't be racists. It's a contradiction in terms. But it's true that some of the more violent neo-Nazis dress up like Skinheads.


Not to be bland. But you could have spared yourself that whole piece of writing if you had only read my original quote. I believe I said the "extreme ones" , hence those who get involved in the perpetual street battles where multitudes of policeman have to protect a small core of neo-nazis against a raving mob and sometimes get injured. I am well aware of the positive ones which protest peacefully and have more positive intiatives.

Also I know not all skinheads are neo-nazis, if I failed to adequately point this out, my apologies.

Also out of sheer curiosity are your groups against all forms of fascism even those that do not call for violence and just have an idealogy similar to many communists having an idealogy that is a tad bit wayward. Or is it an indiscriminate action against all movements, despite different methods and slight differences in idealogue among the fascist themselves?

Also out of sheer curiosity are your groups against all forms of fascism even those that do not call for violence and just have an idealogy similar to many communists having an idealogy that is a tad bit wayward. Or is it an indiscriminate action against all movements, despite different methods and slight differences in idealogue among the fascist themselves?AntiFa is opposed to Fascism in all it's ugly forms, but we are a-political. We are not the thought police & we do not participate in politics in any way. Peaceful Fascists can easily be opposed by ignoring them, not voting for them, or voting for their opposition. You don't need AntiFa to help with that & we won't help you with it, even if you think you need us ;)

The only common political idea shared by people from AntiFa, is opposition to Fascism. Other than that, we're just people & like all people, we're all different. One of the guys here is a Liberal (Which I suppose is similar to a Libertarian in the US).

The only common political idea shared by people from AntiFa, is opposition to Fascism. Other than that, we're just people & like all people, we're all different. One of the guys here is a Liberal (Which I suppose is similar to a Libertarian in the US).

Well, I'm not so sure what the term "liberal" connotes outside of the U.S. but to us it usually means someone who favors a lot of social freedom but limited economic freedom. A libertarian, at least in the strictest sense, supports high degrees of both types of freedom.

A fascist...no freedom at all. The state has power over everything.

Being someone who roleplays on II... all right, basically lurks around because he can't find any good threads to join and sucks at rping anyway... I've seen many people with Nazi nations who aren't Nazis in any way, just for rping purposes.