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Hey guys, apparently everyone favorite online tactical game is being looked at by congress as a potential terrorist training tool and can be used to motivate the islamist movement. According to congress EA and DICE is to blame. Complete BS IMO...

heres the video from ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2105341

what do you guys think?

What about Counterstrike?

That I had no respect left for the government to lose any about this.

Hey guys, apparently everyone favorite online tactical game is being looked at by congress as a potential terrorist training tool and can be used to motivate the islamist movement. According to congress EA and DICE is to blame. Complete BS IMO...

heres the video from ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2105341

what do you guys think?

Fredric Wertham would be proud.

nothing said about CSS..although Id see why youd say that..lol
thats terrorist to THE MAX. If you think about it ...the game Americas Army could VERY well be used as a terrorist training tool with mods.

nothing said about CSS..although Id see why youd say that..lol
thats terrorist to THE MAX. If you think about it ...the game Americas Army could VERY well be used as a terrorist training tool with mods.

AA was designed as a terrorist recruitment tool. :)

Lol...gov has lost all reason (actually that happened a long while ago) :)

Stupid fucks (the government that is)

More details from Gamepolitics:

ABC's Nightline Mainstreams Pentagon Battlefield 2 Fiasco

It has been quite a day for video games on the tube.

Over coffee this morning we had Jack Thompson being Jack Thompson on CNBC's Squawk Box.

Then we howled as Jon Stewart flayed Congress over last week's video game hearings. And now the "Samir" story has gone mainstream, courtesy of ABC News and Nightline.

Who's Samir?

As reported last month by GamePolitics and Water Cooler Games, an important Congressional committee was wrongly told by employees of the Pentagon that a Battlefield 2 fan video was an insidious al Qaeda recruitment and propaganda tool.

In reality the video was cobbled together by a gamer named Samir, a Dutch citizen and BF2 devotee. GP's Colin McInnes scored the first interview with Samir (excerpts from which will appear in the upcoming issue of PC Gamer U.K.).

Late last month NPR picked up on the fiasco and now ABC's Jake Tapper has taken it to the masses with a terrific seven-minute expose on just how a Pentagon bureaucrat, prompted by a highly-paid defense contractor, managed to bungle this story.

Frankly, as a U.S. taxpayer, GP expects quite a bit more for the $7 million which the government paid to the contractor, Science Applications International Corp. (SAIC).

ABC interviews Samir on camera (but with the gamer's face hidden, see accompanying screen cap) as well as the Pentagon official who made the erroneous declarations to the House Select Intelligence Committee. It's definitely worth watching.

http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/311521.html

Congressional Intelligence: An oxymoron. :)

LMAO...so true

OMFG!!! :eek:

Only happens in America ;)

I feel stupider for having watched that video, and I want that 7+ minutes of my life back.


That said, IMO that old guy with the beard didn't know what the hell he was talking about. Why were no other FPS games mentioned (especially Americas Army and CS)?

Why do you keep electing these people? Seriously, top 10 in population rates and you pick these guys to represent you. Get some fresh faces in there, people!

any game today can be modded to make a "terrorist" version. alot of games put out today actually make it easy for you to have mod versions and some even give you mod tools

seconded.

Only happens in America ;)

Yep. But then what about all tactical shooters? CS, HL2, AA, BF1942, etc?

OMFG!!! :eek:

Only happens in America ;)

True, at least for video games. Oy, we make corporations and the government responsible for everything. It seems we the people never want to admit that anything is our fault anymore.

So if I use BF2, I are terrorist?

MY GOD! I'VE BEEN A TERRORIST ALL THIS TIME!

*blows out brains*

I guess I'll be a terrorist in training as I play BF:2, 1942, Vietnam, Socom, Halo. Wow! and here I though Counter-Strike would have been the game of choice for terrorist training. If they ban these ames, I guess we'll all be criminals then!

It wouldn't pass.

I knwe there was a reason I didn't play shooters! :p Oh wait, that was because I don't have money. Right. (n/m that I do play when I can find time/money, lol.)

Congress is just dumb. Government is dumb. Meh.

Hide and Seek is also a terrorist training 'game.'

Think about it. Hiding among the population, seeking your target, and when we were kids we also learned how to strap C4 to our chests from this game.

I bet I know what is next. Lotr: The Two Towers will be banned because it depicts a berserk uruk blowing himself up to destroy the deeping wall of helms deep--to heroic music. It is an al-Qaeda recruiting tool to tall monsters everwhere, for sure..

wow, can we say goodbye the the 1st amendment yet? or do we need more of this and like 5 more patroit acts.


fuck the US government:upyours:

Why do you keep electing these people? Seriously, top 10 in population rates and you pick these guys to represent you. Get some fresh faces in there, people!

Because they have mastered the use of such lies and deceptions as "tough on crime" and "The War on Drugs."

we have been reduced to voting for the lesser of two evils. thats like Mr. Burns or Mayor Quimby.

Hey guys, apparently everyone favorite online tactical game is being looked at by congress as a potential terrorist training tool and can be used to motivate the islamist movement. According to congress EA and DICE is to blame. Complete BS IMO...

heres the video from ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2105341

what do you guys think?
Uh ... that's not what was said in the Nighline segment.

I think its time we replace the government, they've proven themselves incapable of properly running the coutnry time and again. and now they just proved they're stupid. and for typing this an SS internet policeman will probably try executing me for bad mouthing the all powerful, and perfect American Empire.

I think its time we replace the government, they've proven themselves incapable of properly running the coutnry time and again. and now they just proved they're stupid. and for typing this an SS internet policeman will probably try executing me for bad mouthing the all powerful, and perfect American Empire.

No no no, our government isn't the American Empire. If it was the American Empire, it would be efficient, powerful, and respected throughout the world (and we wouldn't have to resort to sending Guardsmen to fight our wars). No, my friend; what we have is a Corporatist "republic", which is ruled by rich people who get politicians into office for certain "favors".

Lmao..im an Imperialist only a Russian one.

And I can care less about that Patriot Act... they can all kiss my ass

What a bunch of morons .

Don't let them forget Red Alert! That game allowed you to play as... Commies! :eek: And kill American troops! Double :eek:. Burn it! Burn it now!

Don't let them forget Red Alert! That game allowed you to play as... Commies! :eek: And kill American troops! Double :eek:. Burn it! Burn it now!

Actually, I thought that in the Red Alert storyline Western Europe = the Allies and the U.S. remains isolationist. But I digress. Gotta build more Tesla coils. :D

Don't let them forget Red Alert! That game allowed you to play as... Commies! :eek: And kill American troops! Double :eek:. Burn it! Burn it now!

And Red Alert 2, where you could play as Libya or Iraq and build Terrorists and Demolition Trucks!

Battlefield is incredibly unrealistic in terms of real life tacticle assault.
One which is very realistic is operation flashpoint which i doubt many of you have heard of, but it is as realistic as you get in terms of army games.

Yep. But then what about all tactical shooters? CS, HL2, AA, BF1942, etc?
For some reason though, I think Helo might escape the ban. Your main enemy after all are a bunch of pseudo-jihadist aliens. :D

Actually, I thought that in the Red Alert storyline Western Europe = the Allies and the U.S. remains isolationist. But I digress. Gotta build more Tesla coils. :D
Ah but that was all part of my parody - I know not of the games I am slandering. >.> <.<





Er yeah. Red Alert 2 then.

They'll ban NS General next...

Its a ideological training ground of extremists and terrorists! We doubt actions taken by US congress!!!

SHAME ON US!!!

:D

Congress: YA WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!!! *bans NS*

Reason: too much crap about the the governement, its glorious drunk emperor, and the mighty forum of congress all in one area.

The government is full of idiots. And thats all i have to say about that.

And yet no thought of banning Command and conquer generals, where you can play as a terrorist organization, use WMD's against your enemies, rig vehicles to be suicide bomber vehicles, start jihadi angry mods...

Lol.


I bet terrorists bunny-hop.

Looks like a good reason to go buy the whole BF series.......

What about Operation Flashpoint?

That actually is reasonably realistic.

Im a HARDCORE flashpoint fan... i love the addons and shit cant wait for Armed Assault...to bad nobody likes it realistic and nobody plays...

as for the bunny hopping
i can clearly picture that...thats hillarious... I bet REAL terrorists bunnyhop too, as well as dolphin dive with their PKs... ive always wanted to see how they fight so i can point and yell NOOB.

What about Counterstrike?
Too unrealistic for anyone to give a fuck.

Too unrealistic for anyone to give a fuck.
IMHO, after having seen real combat, all video games are unrealistic.

You don't get tired. You have perfectly stable aim. You never drop magazines when reloading. The gun never jams. People die when you hit them (instead of living on for another 3 or 4 minutes annoying you with return fire). You can't get dirty or exhausted. You can run up stairs without getting out of breath and vomiting. You can see where everyone is. You can instantly tell good guy from bad guy with no problems. When in doubt, you can wallhack.

Why are they worried about a video game?

IMHO, after having seen real combat, all video games are unrealistic.

You don't get tired. You have perfectly stable aim. You never drop magazines when reloading. The gun never jams. People die when you hit them (instead of living on for another 3 or 4 minutes annoying you with return fire). You can't get dirty or exhausted. You can run up stairs without getting out of breath and vomiting. You can see where everyone is. You can instantly tell good guy from bad guy with no problems. When in doubt, you can wallhack.

Why are they worried about a video game?

I actually wish they would model all of this stuff into a game. If for nothing else, at least to show these 12-year olds that they're not as uber as they think.

I actually wish they would model all of this stuff into a game. If for nothing else, at least to show these 12-year olds that they're not as uber as they think.

When they make a game that gives you crotch rot and road rash on your inner thighs from running around for days sweating into the same uniform and not bathing and marching for kilometers on end, give me a call.

I guess banning video games isn't such a big deal if it's not "T3h 3b3l libruhl bitch dyke" Hillary Clinton calling for it huh?

The silence is deafening.

In CnC Red Alert 2, you blow up the Twin Towers. It's obvious that it's communist propaganda. In fact, any game where you can play against America is obviously jihadist or communist propaganda!

IMHO, after having seen real combat, all video games are unrealistic.

You don't get tired. You have perfectly stable aim. You never drop magazines when reloading. The gun never jams. People die when you hit them (instead of living on for another 3 or 4 minutes annoying you with return fire). You can't get dirty or exhausted. You can run up stairs without getting out of breath and vomiting. You can see where everyone is. You can instantly tell good guy from bad guy with no problems. When in doubt, you can wallhack.

Why are they worried about a video game?
Sigged :D

In CnC Red Alert 2, you blow up the Twin Towers. It's obvious that it's communist propaganda. In fact, any game where you can play against America is obviously jihadist or communist propaganda!

Yes, all the programmers should be reported to the AAAC!!! :gundge:

Funny thing is in that Video they showed the map Ghost Town. That map is SAS vs Spetsnaz.

Im a HARDCORE flashpoint fan... i love the addons and shit cant wait for Armed Assault...to bad nobody likes it realistic and nobody plays...

as for the bunny hopping
i can clearly picture that...thats hillarious... I bet REAL terrorists bunnyhop too, as well as dolphin dive with their PKs... ive always wanted to see how they fight so i can point and yell NOOB.
Aye, I play Flashpoint with everything optional off. It's rather tricky, but also very enjoyable because of it. No crosshairs, no 3rd person camera etc.

In CnC Red Alert 2, you blow up the Twin Towers. It's obvious that it's communist propaganda. In fact, any game where you can play against America is obviously jihadist or communist propaganda!

Actually, blowing them up is optional. I always used them as a garrison. You DO blow up the Pentagon, however.

But this is complete bull. If you've played Battlefield 2 at all, you'd realize that you can play as either side. And if you've played the Xbox 360 version, you'd know that you play against the terrorists in the campaign (as well as against the Chinese as NATO, and vice versa).

I guess one of the guys at the Pentagon heard about the "carbombing" strategy (strapping C4 onto a vehicle and ramming in into something) and got spooked. :D

Also the fact they think the MEC forces are terrorist, or that the Special Forces add on was made by some terror company or some sort.

Damn, I just realized all of us history/warfare buffs may not be able to test our little 'theories' if this ban goes through. I for one always love to play on either the 'evil' side or the side that lost the war in real life just to see how an alternate history would have played out. I love trying to save Nazi Germany from the allied onslaught in games. I love defending the Confederate States of America in games. It has nothing to do with my true beliefs.

Actually, blowing them up is optional. I always used them as a garrison. You DO blow up the Pentagon, however.

But this is complete bull. If you've played Battlefield 2 at all, you'd realize that you can play as either side. And if you've played the Xbox 360 version, you'd know that you play against the terrorists in the campaign (as well as against the Chinese as NATO, and vice versa).

I guess one of the guys at the Pentagon heard about the "carbombing" strategy (strapping C4 onto a vehicle and ramming in into something) and got spooked. :D

But it's funner to blow them up :p

*hears knock on door*

He--

*gets dragged away by men in black suits into a dark van*

This is exactly why there should be no government!

This is exactly why there should be no government!

No, it's why we need to be ruled by GENIUSES! No one can hold public office without having an IQ of 120 or higher.

This is exactly why there should be no government!

Eh, or at least a government that doesn't waste it's time doing what PARENTS ought to be doing.

Eh, or at least a government that doesn't waste it's time doing what PARENTS ought to be doing.

Um... yeah, that's what I meant. :D

This country is really quite something....

I heard they banned Saunas in California because of gay men doing gay things.... why ban luxury...why not just gay men LOL

aannnddd... back on topic..

doesnt the US gov have anything better to do then waste valuable time passing retarded laws and listening to others bitch and whine about things dont matter..

I bet all of us could think of more important things the US should be doing... DUH!!! HELLO! WARS GOING ON!! also.. national development (which virtually halted with this knownothing president) medicine, dealing with potentially devestating powers like china and india, petro and natural gas parterships with Russia..

NO! instead they focus on stupid shit like... OMG THIS VIDEO GAMEZ LOLZ!!
among other things

Im sure you all know what im talking about

I guess banning video games isn't such a big deal if it's not "T3h 3b3l libruhl bitch dyke" Hillary Clinton calling for it huh?

The silence is deafening.

Really? I think that banning video games is silly no matter who is asking for it.

Soon we'll get pwned by UBER 1337 terrorists. :p

Soon we'll get pwned by UBER 1337 terrorists. :p

We'll know it's coming though. They'll pwn us online first.

Think about it - all those times you played Counterstrike and were the counter-terrorists - do you ever wonder who is playing the terrorists?

No no no, our government isn't the American Empire. If it was the American Empire, it would be efficient, powerful, and respected throughout the world (and we wouldn't have to resort to sending Guardsmen to fight our wars). No, my friend; what we have is a Corporatist "republic", which is ruled by rich people who get politicians into office for certain "favors".



AHAHHAHAHAHHA! that is so true, thank you for correcting me....


I honestly can't wait for shit like this to be on the news, NS disagrees with government! must be shut down! well if its gonna happen, let em' read this....



ALLAH AKBAR! JIHAD ON ALL AMERICANS! KILL THE INFEDELS! DESTROY FREEDOM! COME ON MY BROTHERS, JOIN THE HOLY BORTHERHOOD OF TOTAL ISLAMIC WAR NOW, AND WE'LL DESTROY THE CAPITALIST PIGS!:gundge:

What about flight simulator, then?

GAWD!

They're right! The advanced training Battlefield 2 provides allows you to masterfully operate all stations of main battle tanks, aircraft, helicopters and all kinds of small arms! It's easy, just learn to use WASD and your mouse and you'll be well on your way to become a notorious terrorist!


*laughs*

Well, we don't have too much to worry about them competing in IPSC if this is a typical candidate. It might also explain why they've gone to using IEDs, as they end up looking a bit silly.

http://www.flurl.com/item/Doing_Jihad_u_92767/

Here's an American shooter

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3332318963256422113&q=IPSC

Here's an American shooter

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3332318963256422113&q=IPSC

Those mag changes are rediculous. I saw a video of a mag change in slow motion, and the guy had the new mag in before the old one dropped past his waist.

yeah I can garuntee that I've learned way more about guerrila warfare from books :eek: *omfg not books, never* like this one book I bought at a random bookstore called "FIGHTING IN THE STREETS, A GUIDE TO URBAN GUERRILA WAR" and "A HANDBOOK AND CLANDESTINE WAR" Now that was some crazy ass shit I've never heard of, and I havent exactly been sheltered :eek: "OMFG he wasnt sheltered in a white suburb!:eek: , shit you can learn more about war than most government officals just by watching the history channel.....

Those mag changes are rediculous. I saw a video of a mag change in slow motion, and the guy had the new mag in before the old one dropped past his waist.

Ahahaha! thats fuckin cool!

A slingshot, monkey bars and a few Coke cans can be used as a terrorist training tool. Time to ban Coke, playgrounds, rubber bands, and slingshots...:rolleyes:

This is more incompetence from the clowns that brought us the $100 gas rebate...

theres a whole nother story right there, in the end, the US government needs replacing.

i hope congress becomes a laughing stock after its series of fuckups and now this..

I dont see anything at all about a federal ban, much less a "borderline."


The thread title is not honest or accurate.

I dont see anything at all about a federal ban, much less a "borderline."


The thread title is not honest or accurate.

He must have meant that the feds were trying to ban illegal copies of Battlefield 2 from crossing the border. :p

wow, can we say goodbye the the 1st amendment yet? or do we need more of this and like 5 more patroit acts.


fuck the US government:upyours:

wow you must be cool. you were able to change your font to size 7 to be able to say fuck. you must be the coolest kid around

lol...youre just frustrated that he doesnt favor the US government, unlike you

:P

A slingshot, monkey bars and a few Coke cans can be used as a terrorist training tool. Time to ban Coke, playgrounds, rubber bands, and slingshots...:rolleyes:

This is more incompetence from the clowns that brought us the $100 gas rebate...

No, this is from a stupid government contractor.

If this stuffs up the release of Battlefield 2142, not good.

In America the government listens to you, when you make a phone call. Helpful government officials control your childs play and censors all the TV so the religious right isn't offended. Have a nice day.

They care about video games.... yet they let crazy Scientologists roam around whose beliefs are based on a Pulp fiction book...

wheres the sence!??!


remember kids... SCIENTOLOGY KILLS... it really does.

In America the government listens to you, when you make a phone call. Helpful government officials control your childs play and censors all the TV so the religious right isn't offended. Have a nice day.

lol...yet there are plenty of double-standard holes... :)

Hey guys, apparently everyone favorite online tactical game is being looked at by congress as a potential terrorist training tool and can be used to motivate the islamist movement. According to congress EA and DICE is to blame. Complete BS IMO...

heres the video from ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2105341

what do you guys think?
This is the same government who doesn't understand the meaning of "mods" in a gaming context, even though it had been explained to them...

What the hell do you expect from such an anal government?

They care about video games.... yet they let crazy Scientologists roam around whose beliefs are based on a Pulp fiction book...

wheres the sence!??!


remember kids... SCIENTOLOGY KILLS... it really does.
Well...

Video games foster a culture of violance. After all, you can't have little Johnny and little Janey playing video games because it might turn little Johnny into a crazy gun-toting maniac and little Janey into a super-whore.

Tsk, tsk... games don't foster the traditional family values that the government considers proper for all Americans.

Scientology, however, is big and scary, it'll require a lot of meetings and Congressional Commitees to decide on a course of action that begins with a real stern letter warning them about the harshly worded letter than they'll be sending over.

After all, it is kind of a religion...

If they ban this game, I will go out and buy it out of spite then play it in a government building or something.

If they ban this game, I will go out and buy it out of spite then play it in a government building or something.
*Gets out popcorn and waits for the feds to come arrest TPH*

http://www.tian.cc/2005/01/chinese-military-train-soldiers-to-be.html

http://www.tian.cc/2005/01/chinese-military-train-soldiers-to-be.html
Heh... amusing.

I'm against guns, it's mainly the dead and injured and partially the gunnuts.

Why doesn't the NRA set up a cyberNRA. To protect gun ownership on-line. They'd get a load of gamers to suddenly join and a chunk of people who were anti-NRA would switch sides.

I guuess it's because the NRA are really just the political wing of the KKK.

wow you must be cool. you were able to change your font to size 7 to be able to say fuck. you must be the coolest kid around

you fuckin right I am!:upyours:

I'm against guns, it's mainly the dead and injured and partially the gunnuts.

Why doesn't the NRA set up a cyberNRA. To protect gun ownership on-line. They'd get a load of gamers to suddenly join and a chunk of people who were anti-NRA would switch sides.

I guuess it's because the NRA are really just the political wing of the KKK.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what the hell you're talking about. The NRA does have online resources, and nowhere in all the NRA information I've recieved does it mention anything about the KKK or their beliefs.

Well...

Video games foster a culture of violance. After all, you can't have little Johnny and little Janey playing video games because it might turn little Johnny into a crazy gun-toting maniac and little Janey into a super-whore.

Tsk, tsk... games don't foster the traditional family values that the government considers proper for all Americans.

Scientology, however, is big and scary, it'll require a lot of meetings and Congressional Commitees to decide on a course of action that begins with a real stern letter warning them about the harshly worded letter than they'll be sending over.

After all, it is kind of a religion...

How can you accept it as a religion because of a pulp fiction book some insane dude wrote..

:D Crazy yanks.

Of course in all computer games you should only be able to play an indestructable American ubermenschen shooting ragheads.

:D Crazy yanks.

Of course in all computer games you should only be able to play an indestructable American ubermenschen shooting ragheads.

LOL i bet thats what they think, because only then!....only then! is it patriotic and acceptable regardless of the gore level. lol

I wish people would shut the fuck up about terrorism to be quite honest.

I wish people would shut the fuck up about terrorism to be quite honest.
Uh, uh, September 11th, yadda yadda

Congressional committees = n00bs. :rolleyes:

Weapons of mass distraction...

lets talk about some useless shit that pisses people off i.e. video game violence, TV Violence, steroids in baseball. So people aren't pissed about real issues i.e. Global Warming, Timmy's older brother getting his head cut off by a fundamentalist, trillion dollar debt + tax cuts

They're afraid it'll draw more players than America's Army. Too bad for them I converted my brother to BF 1942.

Well I would be concerned, but I traded Battlefield 2 to my friend for Battlefront 2, so it would be his loss not mine.

Congressional committees = n00bs. :rolleyes:
Very very true.

Hey guys, apparently everyone favorite online tactical game is being looked at by congress as a potential terrorist training tool and can be used to motivate the islamist movement. According to congress EA and DICE is to blame. Complete BS IMO...

heres the video from ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2105341

what do you guys think?
Isn't that exactly what "America's Army" is for the US? This is such BS.

Well I would be concerned, but I traded Battlefield 2 to my friend for Battlefront 2, so it would be his loss not mine.

Are you INSANE?! That's like trading an Athlon for a Pentium, wtf is wrong with you lol.

If they ban BF2, I'll have to go suicide bomb them myself.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what the hell you're talking about. The NRA does have online resources, and nowhere in all the NRA information I've recieved does it mention anything about the KKK or their beliefs.

Aw what a pity the facts back me up.

For a start, I meant an NRA for guns in games, they could have a slogan like "They can have my BFG9000 when they pry it from my cold pixilated hands".

Imagine the NRA not admitting links to the KKK in their documentation. My oh my, well that's the topic all researched out.
The NRA was set up within 1 week of the KKK being made an illegal organisation. All the gun toting crackers in the KKK got their membership transferred over to the NRA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1871

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association

As you crackers would say. Show me proof that there isn't a link between them.

There is no mention of any link between the KKK and the NRA in that Wiki article on the NRA.

And since when is the KKK illegal? If they were, then how come they are able to do their silly assed marches without getting arrested?

They have rights.

Aw what a pity the facts back me up.

For a start, I meant an NRA for guns in games, they could have a slogan like "They can have my BFG9000 when they pry it from my cold pixilated hands".

Imagine the NRA not admitting links to the KKK in their documentation. My oh my, well that's the topic all researched out.
The NRA was set up within 1 week of the KKK being made an illegal organisation. All the gun toting crackers in the KKK got their membership transferred over to the NRA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1871

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association

As you crackers would say. Show me proof that there isn't a link between them.


What facts are you referring to? Wow, 2 Wiki entries are your evidence? Neither Wiki entry shows any correlation between the NRA and the KKK. Since you're the one making accusations, it's on you to come up with evidence that the 2 groups are related (innocent until proven guilty). The 2 groups starting within a week of each other is no proof whatsoever.

And don't call me a cracker. That's a racist term, and I don't appreciate it.

anyways people....cant we go back to the original concept of this board about how much the US government is retarded!?!?!?!:) drop the NRA KKK FDA CIA NAACP FFA KGB LOL BRB TTYL whatever, are abreivations mean the same thing. People are lazy. Lazyness drives the world, becuase being lazy makes techonolgy to make life easier. anyways. So whos with me on taking down the US government?

Aw what a pity the facts back me up.

For a start, I meant an NRA for guns in games, they could have a slogan like "They can have my BFG9000 when they pry it from my cold pixilated hands".

Imagine the NRA not admitting links to the KKK in their documentation. My oh my, well that's the topic all researched out.
The NRA was set up within 1 week of the KKK being made an illegal organisation. All the gun toting crackers in the KKK got their membership transferred over to the NRA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1871

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association

As you crackers would say. Show me proof that there isn't a link between them.

Wow, you watched bowling for columbine. Cookie for you.

Well I would be concerned, but I traded Battlefield 2 to my friend for Battlefront 2, so it would be his loss not mine.

I aquired BF2, and bought SW:BF2. If BF2 had a decent single player mode, like SW:BF2 it would be the greatest game ever. Until I got high-speed, they're tied. :D

And don't call me a cracker. That's a racist term, and I don't appreciate it.

KKK, NRA, a cracker by any other name would smell as sweet.

So whos with me on taking down the US government?

Just let me check my schedule for the weekend.

Okay, I'm free!

KKK, NRA, a cracker by any other name would smell as sweet.

So, you have absolutely no proof to corroborate your allegations that the NRA and KKK are linked? I figured you wouldn't have any evidence to support your theory.

KKK, NRA, a cracker by any other name would smell as sweet.

mmm...crackers.
http://jenyu.net/bc/bcfood/images/crackers.jpg

:D


Sorry. Just trying to direct this thread out of the quicksand of crap and back onto solid footing. :)

Good move government, just keep banning stuff until you've banned everything. It's what they want, you can't see that. You noobs.

Video games =/= Real Life