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No long post for deep discussion here--just a question and a poll. What's your favorite conspiracy theory? Doesn't matter why it's your favorite--you can believe it or you can laugh at it. I'm just interested in your favorite.

Poll coming.

The flouride in the water thing - always was the funniest for me.

The moon landings.... "Huston we have a problem.... I think we need wind to make the flag look real" :D

I like the one about how the corporations rule the world... because it's true.

-snip-
So that's who killed JFK...
It all makes sense now!

The one about how Bill Clinton was using UN Peacekeepers and black helicopters to arrest members of the milita movement and conspiracy theorists and detaining them at secret prision camps in Alaska. That has to rank at the top of my bullshit scale, next to weather control at HAARP.

Either that or the ones about how oil companies suppress alternative fuels/set the price of oil.

Flat Earthers ftw! As they aren't here, I'll say moon landings.

You know who really rules this country? The Patriots! :eek:
Personally I like the flouride-in-the-water conspiracy better tho

The one about how Bill Clinton was using UN Peacekeepers and black helicopters to arrest members of the milita movement and conspiracy theorists and detaining them at secret prision camps in Alaska. That has to rank at the top of my bullshit scale, next to weather control at HAARP.

Either that or the ones about how oil companies suppress alternative fuels/set the price of oil.
I was going to put the "murder" of Vince Foster up there, but I ran out of room.

The moon landing have been conclusively proved to be real, which is why the theory is so damn funny.

This is my favorite. It's near where I live and I used to break in there all the time before it became a State Park. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project

Experiments began in earnest in the early 1970s and during this time one, some or all of the following are claimed to have occurred at the site:

The facility was expanded to as many as twelve levels and several hundred workers, without anyone in the town noticing the tons of building materials or hundreds of workers required. Some reports have the facility extending under the town of Montauk itself.
Homeless people were abducted and subjected to huge amounts of electromagnetic radiation. Few survived.
People had their psychic abilities enhanced to the point where they could materialize objects out of thin air. Stewart Swerdlow claims to have been involved in the Montauk Project, and as a result, he says, his "psionic" faculties were boosted, but at the cost of emotional instability, post-traumatic stress disorder, and other issues.
Experiments were conducted in teleportation.
A "porthole in time" was created which allowed researchers to travel anywhere in time or space. This was developed into a stable "Time Tunnel".
Contact was made with alien extraterrestrials through the Time Tunnel and technology was exchanged with them which enhanced the project. This allowed broader access to "hyperspace".
An alien monster traveled through the time tunnel, destroyed equipment and devoured researchers. The tunnel was shut down and the creature destroyed.
Mind control experiments were conducted and runaway boys were abducted and brought out to the base where they underwent excruciating periods of both physical and mental torture in order to break their minds, then their minds were re-programmed. Many were supposedly killed during the process and buried on the site.
On or about on August 12, 1983 the time travel project at Camp Hero interlocked in hyperspace with the original Rainbow Project back in 1943. The USS Eldridge was drawn into hyperspace and trapped there. Two men, Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron both claim to have leaped from the deck of the Eldridge while it was in hyperspace and ended up after a period of severe disorientation at Camp Hero in the year 1983. Here they claim to have met John von Neumann, a famous physicist and mathematician, even though he was known to have died in 1957. Von Neumann had supposedly worked on the original Philadelphia Experiment, but the U.S. Navy denies this.
Cameron used the mind enhancing system at Camp Hero to manifest a "Bigfoot" or "Yeti" which destroyed large parts of the facility.
Staff from the Camp Hero site traveled to the USS Eldridge and shut down the generators, causing the ship to return to Philadelphia naval yard in 1943 and causing the time tunnel to collapse and the Yeti to disappear.
Metahumans and experiments in special serums to create such individuals were tested there.
Filmmakers were brought to the facility to begin work on a project that would culminate with the Moon landing hoax.
The military personnel in charge were in fact cultists who built a 50-foot ziggurat or step pyramid out of titanium for some esoteric reason.
Early work on inventing the Internet and its implementation it were undertaken there.
Nazi scientists from Operation Paperclip were involved in some of the experiments there.
Experimental "flying saucer" aircraft prototypes were created there, and shipped to other secret bases for testing.
Bioengineering projects undertaken there eventually created the Jersey Devil.
Black helicopters were manufactured and flown there.
Nikola Tesla, whose death was faked in a conspiracy, was the chief director of operations at the base.
Mass psychological experiments, such as the use of enormous subliminal messages projects and the creation of a "Men in Black" corps to confuse and frighten the public, were invented there.

I was going to put the "murder" of Vince Foster up there, but I ran out of room.

The real wackos are up to 40 or 50 people that the Clintons "murdered", not to mention Waco and Oklaholma City.

This is my favorite. It's near where I live and I used to break in there all the time before it became a State Park. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project
Tres cool. Ever look up the PRISM project?
*bows*

Tres cool. Ever look up the PRISM project?
*bows*
That sounds familiar...

That sounds familiar...
Projectionists. I spent a little time considering it for myself and my wife.

BTW, did you catch any of the later stuff on John Doe?
They were going there with it.
That show had a lot of potential.

Projectionists. I spent a little time considering it for myself and my wife.

BTW, did you catch any of the later stuff on John Doe?
They were going there with it.
That show had a lot of potential.
No, never saw it.

This is my favorite. It's near where I live and I used to break in there all the time before it became a State Park. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project


Thats pretty freaky. Nice conspiracy.

Thats pretty freaky. Nice conspiracy.
According to one of the books, government agents go back in time and put several rounds into Christ who then tells them that it's not time for him to die and that they should run along. I think I was 14 when I read that and that's when I began to think, "Maybe this is all bullshit..."

Makes sence

...

No it doesn't. Thats why its a conspiracy theory.

oh the other posts have reminded me of 2 of my faves.

nikola tesla caused that huge explosion in siberia (the one that was probably a meteorite strike) by testing his "death ray" (some kind of communication wave thing) at the wrong time

the automakers/gas companies have bought up the patents of all sorts of devices that would give us amazing gas mileage and kept them off the market so as to keep up gas consumption. this theory isnt as popular as it was when i was a teen but some people still believe it, in their world patents are never published and last forever.

Thats pretty freaky. Nice conspiracy.
It's got a little bit of everything in it, doesn't it?

oh the other posts have reminded me of 2 of my faves.

nikola tesla caused that huge explosion in siberia (the one that was probably a meteorite strike) by testing his "death ray" (some kind of communication wave thing) at the wrong time

Spider Robinson actually has the character of Nikola Tesla admitting that Tunguska was his fault in one of his novels.

What's "Bohemian Grove"?

It's got a little bit of everything in it, doesn't it?
Long Island doesn't fuck around.

What's "Bohemian Grove"?
Ask David Icke.

Rolling 'round in the woods and chanting and owls and blood and perhaps some twisted sex with some masks on ... you know, typical NS get togethers.

Ask David Icke.

Rolling 'round in the woods and chanting and owls and blood and perhaps some twisted sex with some masks on ... you know, typical NS get togethers.
The Lizard People guy! I love that guy.

The Lizard People guy! I love that guy.
I guess there's pictures somewhere - i have one of his books but it's too spotty to be worthwhile. Just a few run-on paragraphs and a few Bigfoot-quality photos :)

Ask David Icke.

Rolling 'round in the woods and chanting and owls and blood and perhaps some twisted sex with some masks on ... you know, typical NS get togethers.
Like the Skull and Bones initiation, but with better props.

Marilyn Monroe was killed by the CIA.

Like the Skull and Bones initiation, but with better props.Exactly!

That, and it's easier to trace the Skull & Bones.

Exactly!

That, and it's easier to trace the Skull & Bones.
Come to think of it, Skull & Bones rules the world would have been a nice addition to the poll.

Come to think of it, Skull & Bones rules the world would have been a nice addition to the poll.
Am I the only one who thought that the last election was an internal fraternity selection?

Am I the only one who thought that the last election was an internal fraternity selection?
You're probably not the only one ... but for some reason the way you say it, you sound unreasonably paranoid :p

BTW - what, no haunting the "Sexiest" threads? o_O

Am I the only one who thought that the last election was an internal fraternity selection?
Not at all.

fnord

the nra is trying to convince people that the un is going to take their guns this july 4th. not my favorite, but a solid current example.

i also like the various ones that claim that some well established scientific idea is really false, but the data is surpressed so that the commies/hippies/jews can destroy our way of life or, um, get more funding(?).

I love the tale that Freemasons secretly rule the world. I really do, you see.... My family is of a long line of freemasons, and if the masons rule the world, well, then I've got to have a shot at the top spot.

fnord
i can see the fnords

oh the other posts have reminded me of 2 of my faves.

nikola tesla caused that huge explosion in siberia (the one that was probably a meteorite strike) by testing his "death ray" (some kind of communication wave thing) at the wrong time

The Tesla ones are the best, but it helps because the government does make a huge coverup on him. You know who invented the Alternating Current? Tesla did. Look in an average School Science book, Pages on Edison and his Direct Current Lightbulb but maybe One sentence on the AC type. And even then they don't mention his name. Quite Strange isn't it?

But I'll have to go with the Phildepliha Experiment.

fnord
WooT!!
, indeed. :D

the nra is trying to convince people that the un is going to take their guns this july 4th. not my favorite, but a solid current example.

it's even linked to (http://www.stopungunban.org/) from their official webpage (http://www.nra.org/)

"I urge you to visit the pages on this site and learn about the conspiracy behind the UN's global gun ban treaty..."

THE MATRIX

that coke your drinking?...computer simulation

were all batteries for robots

this isn't real its all a computer program theory

The moon landing have been conclusively proved to be real, which is why the theory is so damn funny.
Agreed. Gets my vote.

All of these are stupid as hell but the Bohemian Grove and the idea that some group secretly rules the world are both just so damn funny. It's a shame you can only vote for just one.

Agreed. Gets my vote.

yeah that one's pretty good just from the 'why bother?' factor - at least other alleged conspiracies are aimed at ruling the world or something.

"bwahahaha, we shall trick them all into believing we landed on the moon! after that, there will be no stopping us! they'll be eating out of our hands by the time we fake a landing on neptune..."

All of these are stupid as hell but the Bohemian Grove and the idea that some group secretly rules the world are both just so damn funny. It's a shame you can only vote for just one.

the bohemian grove actually exists, and the club actually does include various members of the political and economic elite. its really sort of an exclusive country club.

All of these are stupid as hell but the Bohemian Grove and the idea that some group secretly rules the world are both just so damn funny. It's a shame you can only vote for just one.
Make sure it's the right one *said in Adam West voice*

the bohemian grove actually exists, and the club actually does include various members of the political and economic elite. its really sort of an exclusive country club.
That's what gives the theory its deliciousness, in my view. My gf's cousin is a big believer in it, and I never fail to give him shit when he brings it up.

That's what gives the theory its deliciousness, in my view.

oh, definitely. i especially approve of the way some people get all worked up over some of the ridiculous hokey rituals and such that apparently take place there, as if it was those things themselves that were a source of power.

I like the chemtrails myself, but I voted for the fake moon landings. It never ceases to make me laugh, and I do like that the 'father' of the theory ran a cat sanctuary.

oh, definitely. i especially approve of the way some people get all worked up over some of the ridiculous hokey rituals and such that apparently take place there, as if it was those things themselves that were a source of power.
Crowley had a good angle on it.
Besides - the same philosophy you're talking about is quite prominent in catholic mass rituals and the like.

My favorite is the Red Cross is run by vampires, wanting to steal our blood and turn us into followers of Dracula. Or, the dental hygiene industry is a sham. Toothpaste, floss, etc. have no effect on your teeth and are only marketed by lying dentists with self-serving interets. Both are put forth by Master Shake of Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I have a tendency to slightly agree with the second. :p

The moon landing one tends to attract the dumbest arguments. 9/11 is close, but it's not my favorite because I am sick to fucking death of hearing about 9/11 - whether its conspiracy nuts, or pro-war hawks trying to yank at those tired heartstrings.

Moon landing arguments often go like "yeah, we could only barely get a tiny sphere up into orbit, and they expect us to believe they could get one flying all the way to the MOON!?"

...as if getting into orbit, and travelling in free fall required the same amount of energy and effort...

Oh no, my favourite is the Dave Grohl one... you know, the one that AIDS doesn't exist? God that man is stupid.

Have any of you read Matthew Reillys Scarecrow? I'm wondering if this "Bohemian Grove" group are like the books "Majestic 12". Could be another conspiracy theory being born here...

bush did 11/9.

Because its true.

and also, you made a typo in the thread title.

Bilderburgers/Masons/some other group secretly rules the world

*laughing hard*

Illuminati FTW ... everything else just trickels down from there. Except that stupid moon landing conspiracy .. never even wasted my time reading anything about it.

bush did 11/9.

Because its true.

and also, you made a typo in the thread title.

Heh. That there is funny stuff.

Heh. That there is funny stuff.
whats so funny?

whats so funny?

Well, that you think 9/11 is a conspiracy theory. Hell, the Moon Landing is probably a more realistic conspiracy theory - it has more evidence.

Favourite conspiracy theory has to be the one I saw on NS when the influx of Neonazis came on. That the Holocaust never happened. Hilarious, in a sad way...

Too lazy to google, so could anyone give a brief run-down on what 'Bohemian Grove' is?

I like the conspiracy theory that the ruling elite are a bunch of shape-changing lizards who dine on human flesh.

I once listened to a radio interview with a total nutjob giving his version of how Diana died. It was hilarious. He had managed to incorporate nearly every conspiracy theory there was, including the shape changing lizard bits.
Aparently Diana was assasinated cause she was carrying Dodi's child which would (apparently) destroy the British monarchy.
She was killed in the underground tunnel at night in Paris, cause Paris was founded by a sect that worshipped - get this! - Diana, goddess of the moon!
And the Hunt!
OMG!
It's all making sense!
She was chased (hunted!) into a tunnel (cave!) and killed (sacrificed!) to her counterpart (Diana!).

And there was other stuff about how long the ambulance took, in relation to the phases of the moon, the pillar number they crashed into, even the car she was in was somehow significant. Mr Nutjob had covered everything.

Then there was some shit about the royal family (along with nearly every other major politician) being lizards - proof being that Diana once called the royals a bunch of slimy reptiles.

Further proof that they were all human-flesh-eating-shape-changing-lizards was the 'fact' that Mr Nutjob had called (I think it was) Edward Health one, which was picked up and published by a reputable newspaper (The Sun IIRC). When asked to comment on this allegation, Heath replied that he had never met the man and that obviously he has a marvellous imagination.
This apparently was definite proof to Mr Nutjob. In his fevered mind, if he had made it up, Heath should have sued him for Libel. The fact Heath didn't shows it must be true.

Hmm. I voted fluoride, but I'm also fond of the various moon conspiracy theories, Polybius, and the Denver Internation Airport.

Moon landings were faked.
Click on this link, read it objectively and then tell me they were real.
Go on, I dare ya!

Fake moon landings (http://www.stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm)

No long post for deep discussion here--just a question and a poll. What's your favorite conspiracy theory? Doesn't matter why it's your favorite--you can believe it or you can laugh at it. I'm just interested in your favorite.
That America "faked the Apollo moon landings." Funniest.thing.evah! :D

Flouride.. Brilliant.

9/11 becuase it's the most interesting and I actually beleive it.

Bilderburgers/Masons/some other group secretly rules the world becuase it's also very interesting.

The funniest one is that America faked the moon landing. I always get a good kick out of that.

Moon landings were faked.
Click on this link, read it objectively and then tell me they were real.
Go on, I dare ya!

Fake moon landings (http://www.stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm)

I believe that the Russians landed on the moon. However, due to too much Vodka, they pretended they were Americans. The US scratched its collective head and decided not to complain.+

I have two: The JFK assassination, either done by the CIA or the CIA was framed by the KGB.

And the New World Order, the global government that will eventually arise.

Definitely the Masons ruling the world, I'm directly related to masons, and I want to come into some money.

I'm part of the US faking moon landings. I know they did. It didn't look real.

That game that has had a thread or two devoted to it. The one that caused people to become disoriented and got visits from the guys in the black suits. What was it called ?

Come to think of it, Skull & Bones rules the world would have been a nice addition to the poll.
I must be way behind in the conspiracy theories but who ar they?

I must be way behind in the conspiracy theories but who ar they?

one of the various elite secret societies/fraternities of the ivy league schools (which are overrun with them, really). both john kerry and dubya are members, as have been a number of other rather powerful figures.

Secret societies ruling the world and similar cafoofla (omgwtfbbq Jesus slept with the Magdalene?!) are fun in their own way.

But who knew Stephen King killed John Lennon?! (http://www.lennonmurdertruth.com/) :eek:

What's "Bohemian Grove"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Club


I've seen some of the footage of that "Cremation of Care" crap, and that giant owl.

(omgwtfbbq Jesus slept with the Magdalene?!)

that's nothing. the real story is with jesus and lazarus, as shown in 'the secret gospel of mark', with remnants left in the edited version (the naked young man running away when jesus is captured in mark 14). and no, i am not making this up.

That same decade a new theory about the hollow-earth appeared. It was the brainchild of Cyrus Read Teed. Teed proposed that the Earth was a hollow sphere and that people lived on the inside of it. In the center of the sphere was the sun, which was half dark and half light. As the sun turned it gave the appearance of a sunset and sunrise. The dense atmosphere in the center of the sphere prevented observers from looking up into the sky and seeing the other side of the world. Interestingly enough, Teed's theory was hard for 19th century mathematicians to disprove based on geometry alone, since the exterior of a sphere can be mapped onto the interior with little trouble.

Teed changed his name to Koresh and founded what might today be called a cult. After buying a 300 acre tract in Florida, Koresh declared himself the messiah of a new religion. He died in 1908 without proving his ideas.

Even after his death, though, some continued to subscribe to his theory. A story is told that during World War II Hitler sent an expedition to the Baltic Island of Rugen. There Dr. Heinz Fischer pointed a telescopic camera into the sky in an attempt to photograph the British fleet across the hollow interior of a concave earth. He was apparently unsuccessful and the British fleet remained safe
Those wacky hollow-earthers never fail to amuse me.

Those wacky hollow-earthers never fail to amuse me.
And when they get together with the Flat Earth Society - BOY OH BOY!

Those wacky hollow-earthers never fail to amuse me.
Put one of them in the same room as a flat earther. That would be most entertaining. :D

EDIT: Damn you Desperate Measures! Beaten by seconds! SECONDS!

I love the tale that Freemasons secretly rule the world. I really do, you see.... My family is of a long line of freemasons, and if the masons rule the world, well, then I've got to have a shot at the top spot.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2134284036772812990&q=schnoebelen

This is really out there, even for a freemason conspiracy theory .. Aleister Crowley and vampires are involved lol

... but Crowley was indeed a mason ...

My favorite is definitely David Icke's work. Real nut job. He basically expounds on the whole lineage thing. Like the blue bloods are actually vampiric lizard people who can phase from human to lizard and vice versa. Also claims that the Bush's, the Royal family, Waylon jennings, and at least one of the Clintons. Another allegation of his is that Lady Dianna died because she found out the horrible truth and was murdered for it. I have a co-worker currently trying to convince me of this stuff. Feels like being recruited. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

My favorite is definitely David Icke's work. Real nut job. He basically expounds on the whole lineage thing. Like the blue bloods are actually vampiric lizard people who can phase from human to lizard and vice versa. Also claims that the Bush's, the Royal family, Waylon jennings, and at least one of the Clintons. Another allegation of his is that Lady Dianna died because she found out the horrible truth and was murdered for it. I have a co-worker currently trying to convince me of this stuff. Feels like being recruited. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke


Waylon Jennings?!! .. haven't heard him talk about Watawsha .. I'll have to find that.

And when they get together with the Flat Earth Society - BOY OH BOY!

i wonder who the flat-earthers would get along with better, the hollow-earthers that think the lizard people live down there or the hollow-earthers that think that we do?

My favorite is definitely David Icke's work. Real nut job. He basically expounds on the whole lineage thing. Like the blue bloods are actually vampiric lizard people who can phase from human to lizard and vice versa. Also claims that the Bush's, the Royal family, Waylon jennings, and at least one of the Clintons. Another allegation of his is that Lady Dianna died because she found out the horrible truth and was murdered for it. I have a co-worker currently trying to convince me of this stuff. Feels like being recruited. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

I forgot about Icke.

Yeah, he sorta goes through all the conspiracies.

A fun hobby is to post on http://www.davidickeforum.com and try to argue with the conspiracy nuts. They soon suspect you must be a CIA agent, it's hilarious.

The greatest Conspiracy, and it's real, is the group that conspires to make conspiracy theories come true. This Axis of Governments actually runs all major companies, because as everyone knows, a massive government is far more efficient that any small company. If you doubt the efficiency of size, play 3 vs. 5 in basketball. I bet you want to be on the side with 5, right?

As further proof, look at gasoline prices. Who makes more off a gallon: Exxon, or the government? The Axis wants some of the conspiracies to appear true so that we'll focus on the more outlandish conspiracies, instead of the Axis of Governments.

Someone mentioned Chemtrails... Man that is one of my faves.

One thing I always love about conspiracy: They require thousands or tens of thousands of people to be in on it, require massive funding, resources, shipping... you name it. And no one notices any of the above! 10k+ people cannot keep a secret!

So dark the
con of Man

My personal favorite is that Star Trek was subliminally messaging America to convert to Catholocism.

*takes a drag*

I don't have a favorite conspiracy theory. I am rather fond of the one about the NS Moderators though. Highly amusing.

The JFK one, because I know so many people who believe it.

Moon landings were faked.
Click on this link, read it objectively and then tell me they were real.
Go on, I dare ya!

Fake moon landings (http://www.stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm)
I'm keeping my vote, but changing my stance on it. I used to think the whole moon hoax thing was ludacris, but that site shows all the proof you need that it was indeed a hoax. I just can't believe they fooled the world for so long...

I'm keeping my vote, but changing my stance on it. I used to think the whole moon hoax thing was ludacris, but that site shows all the proof you need that it was indeed a hoax. I just can't believe they fooled the world for so long...
I'm glad I was able to bring someone else into the light...

I prefer the theory that the AIDS was created in laboratories as a biological weapon or to made a population control.

Or that one where AIDS means Allien Induced Dissease Syndrome.:eek:

My new favorite is that no vietnam veteran was ever spit upon.

my favourite conspiracy theory was that i gave the apple to Eve or that i talked her into picking it. i was a only a young snake then, how could i have picked an apple from a tree? and since when snakes talk? the bitch picked it up because she wanted it...

9/11 is my favorite because the "inside job" theory is so far fetched

I personally like, "RFK must die"

So apparently this guy named Surhan shoots RFK (JFKs brother) becuase the CIA hypnotized him. I saw this on the discovery channel. An old lady with a moustache can also verify that she was under control of the CIA, so it must be true!

Oh yeah, Surhan was a drunk Palastinian.

Projectionists. I spent a little time considering it for myself and my wife.

BTW, did you catch any of the later stuff on John Doe?
They were going there with it.
That show had a lot of potential.

SciFi is discussing picking up new seasons, cause it has good ratings on SciFi Fridays

My favorite one is Roswell, cause something did crash there, and it wasn't a weather balloon.

SciFi is discussing picking up new seasons, cause it has good ratings on SciFi Fridays
:eek:

I owe you. *bows tremendously*

He's gonna have a busy schedule with that and Prison Break

I actually learned a few things about the moon by reading the replies to the moon landing conspiracy theorists by actual scientists.. that's probably worth something. :)

I'm keeping my vote, but changing my stance on it. I used to think the whole moon hoax thing was ludacris, but that site shows all the proof you need that it was indeed a hoax. I just can't believe they fooled the world for so long...

Nah, I think they just fooled a few people who couldn't spell "ludicrous." :p

Here you go: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html :)