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Warfare

Raghnarok
25-06-2006, 19:20
Dude I'm not really this good in convincing people, and in explaining stuf and so on but honestly I think that french warfare thing is so exagerated.
lots of the mentioned wars arn't lost, Napoleon was the greatest general EVER it's thanks to him if we have last names and other many things, the only thing why he didn't win and conquered europe was because he did the same mistake hitler did, attack Russia while his troops weren't able to survive in such temperatures. Napoleon had great tactics! He just wanted to much just like any ruler does. That is why no-one shall ever rule the world, any human who has lots of power always wants more!
But to get back to the topic, I think americans are just jalous of the french because they just kiss so well! You can think this is just bullshit, but honestly they do! (well at least the women)
I myself are beglian, and support France in this conflict.
Also if just france and and america would be at war america would certainly win, but the thing is that whole europe would support europe and even maybe asia and south america!
America is becomming a huge joke with this bush thing. Talking about bush, the war in irak is just ridiculous, just mind with your own bussiness!
And btw the WTC was destroyed by americans!!
1) No aircraft could have flied into such a tower like they did, says hundreds ofprofessional pilots!----> they would have needed special devices inside the building

2) The whole in the pentagon is smaller than the aircraft!---> no aircraft crashed into the pentagon

3) No one ever taped this mysterious aircraft, no actually seen this plane!!

4) The pentagon is suposed to be the most secure building in the world!!

5) The WTC shouldn't have collapsed, it has been specially built to resist such things! ------> a bomb was placed inside the building!

6) strangely that day none of the big bosses was in the building... ----> they were told it would happen!

7) when bush was told what happend, he was in a school and just continued to listen to the story about a duck and pretended nothing was at hand

8) ....

All I'm saying is: stop being ridiculous americans!
Kamsaki
25-06-2006, 19:23
Conspiracy theories tend not to receive a very positive response on these forums.

French people might be better kissers, but Scandanavians get to kiss Scandanavians, which puts them ahead, I reckon.
Raghnarok
25-06-2006, 19:26
Hmmm, that makes sense...
Desperate Measures
25-06-2006, 19:26
You're not really this good in convincing people.
Raghnarok
25-06-2006, 19:28
As I said...
Lazy Otakus
25-06-2006, 19:29
You're not really this good in convincing people.

He surely didn't convince me.

Isn't it "Ragnarok" or "Ragnarök" btw? :confused:
Jenrak
25-06-2006, 19:30
Conspiracies are my domain. Stop stepping on my turf...

...I kid. But conspiracies tend to attract trolls and logisticians alike, so you might want to be careful on this forum.
Jenrak
25-06-2006, 19:31
He surely didn't convince me.

Isn't it "Ragnarok" or "Ragnarök" btw? :confused:

The first one, Ragnarok. The Norse Apocalypse.
Koon Proxy
25-06-2006, 19:33
I conclude that the WTC was destroyed by the French because the Americans get more publicity despite being worse kissers, and they paid off Bush and big oil to concoct the plane story. Neh?
Palaios
25-06-2006, 19:46
I'm slightly confused about what kissing has anything to do with this. I guess that's what you get from belgians: Napolian- France- Kissing- Pentagon-WTC :rolleyes:
Raghnarok
25-06-2006, 19:48
I conclude that the WTC was destroyed by the French because the Americans get more publicity despite being worse kissers, and they paid off Bush and big oil to concoct the plane story. Neh?
:p funny....
Euh it's RagHnarok, dragons name :)
wel also a bit of Ragnarok -> Norse apocalypse, as said...
I also heard somewhere it's a roman or greek god of destruction:cool:
It just sounds cool ^^
Kamsaki
25-06-2006, 19:49
I'm slightly confused about what kissing has anything to do with this. I guess that's what you get from belgians: Napolian- France- Kissing- Pentagon-WTC :rolleyes:
Evidently you haven't been checking out your CIA sources within the Pentagon enough lately. The connection is obvious; kissing occurs there more often than sleaze does in the Press.
WangWee
25-06-2006, 19:51
The first one, Ragnarok. The Norse Apocalypse.

No, the second one: Ragnarök. Described in Völuspá :p
Palaios
25-06-2006, 19:52
Evidently you haven't been checking out your CIA sources within the Pentagon enough lately. The connection is obvious; kissing occurs there more often than sleaze does in the Press.

How silly of me, I should have realised:p
Zephlin Ragnorak
25-06-2006, 19:53
2) The whole in the pentagon is smaller than the aircraft!---> no aircraft crashed into the pentagon


Here's a graphical representation that took me about five minutes to find using Google and then reading through the results. Search words "pentagon+size". Here's the page this image came from: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

http://69.57.144.30/ats/pentagon757/pentagon-757.jpg

Not that I really need to convince anyone that a commerical aircraft is smaller than the headquarters for the United States' military.
Bodies Without Organs
25-06-2006, 19:56
Napoleon was the greatest general EVER it's thanks to him if we have last names and other many things...

What?
Bodies Without Organs
25-06-2006, 19:57
Not that I really need to convince anyone that a commerical aircraft is smaller than the headquarters for the United States' military.

I believe the OP meant 'hole' rather than 'whole'.
Barbaric Tribes
25-06-2006, 20:01
2) The whole in the pentagon is smaller than the aircraft!---> no aircraft crashed into the pentagon



dude, do you know anything? the pentagon is fucking huge, its one of the biggest buildings on the planets, way huger than ANY aircraft, even if your going to be a conspriacy theorist, you cant be totally idiotic, you need some logic and at least some evidence, not just random claims that make no sense.
Barbaric Tribes
25-06-2006, 20:04
i think your just like the people who from some fucked up reason beleive the moon landings never happened, and if anyone wants to start aruging about that, your dumb if you get a powerful enough telescope you can see the shit we left up there, and then theres that mirror we left up there that we can bounce lasers off of, anyways thats besides the point, you are just foolish and believe everything you hear on the internet....ie cyber tabloids, you must be a real winner.
Zephlin Ragnorak
25-06-2006, 20:08
I believe the OP meant 'hole' rather than 'whole'.

Roger that. Even that topic is discussed in the page I referenced. I doubt the OP can be convinced by all the evidence in the world if they've already decided that no aircraft hit the Pentagon in their hesrt, though.
Desperate Measures
25-06-2006, 20:08
What?
When from behind me, a woman of 25 uttered the dumbest thing I'd ever heard in my life ... She said, 'If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college.' I'll repeat that. I'll repeat that because that's the kind of sentence that when you hear it, your brain comes to a screeching halt. And the left hand side of the brain looks at the right hand side and goes, 'It's dark in here, and we may die.' She said, 'If it weren't for my horse...' as in, giddy up, giddy up, let's go - 'I wouldn't have spent that year in college,' a degree-granting institution. Don't! Don't think about that sentence for more than three minutes, or blood'll shoot out your nose. The American medical profession doesn't know why we get an aneurysm. It's when a blood vessel bursts in our head for no apparent reason. There's a reason. You're at the mall one day, and somebody over there says the dumbest thing you've ever heard and it goes in your ear. So you turn around to see if your friends heard it, cause if your friends heard it, and you can talk about what the jackass said, then it'll be gone. But your friends are over here, pretending they're gonna buy a cellular phone, and they're not gonna buy a cellular phone, because they don't even understand how the rate structure works. So you turn back, to find the person who said it, because if you can ask 'em a question like, 'WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?!' then it'll go away. But they're gone. And now those words are in your head. And those words don't go away. Cause the way I see it, 7% of our brains functions all the time, because 99% of everything that happens is the same old stuff. We get it. All right. Move on. Get it. Right. But every so often, somethin' like that happens: 'If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.' So your brain goes, 'LET'S FIGURE IT OUT! Son of a bitch! I wonder what that's about!' I wonder, was she riding the horse to school? No, she wouldn't be riding the horse to school. Maybe it was a polo pony; she had a polo pony scholarship. Maybe she sold the horse and that's how she - she was betting on the horse! WHAT THE FUCK?!! And then you realize that anybody who went to college would never say anything that stupid in public. And as soon as you have that thought, your eyes close and the next morning they find you dead in your bathroom. - The White Album
The Aeson
25-06-2006, 20:08
Dude I'm not really this good in convincing people, and in explaining stuf and so on but honestly I think that french warfare thing is so exagerated.
lots of the mentioned wars arn't lost, Napoleon was the greatest general EVER it's thanks to him if we have last names and other many things, the only thing why he didn't win and conquered europe was because he did the same mistake hitler did, attack Russia while his troops weren't able to survive in such temperatures. Napoleon had great tactics! He just wanted to much just like any ruler does. That is why no-one shall ever rule the world, any human who has lots of power always wants more!
But to get back to the topic, I think americans are just jalous of the french because they just kiss so well! You can think this is just bullshit, but honestly they do! (well at least the women)
I myself are beglian, and support France in this conflict.
Also if just france and and america would be at war america would certainly win, but the thing is that whole europe would support europe and even maybe asia and south america!
America is becomming a huge joke with this bush thing. Talking about bush, the war in irak is just ridiculous, just mind with your own bussiness!
And btw the WTC was destroyed by americans!!
1) No aircraft could have flied into such a tower like they did, says hundreds ofprofessional pilots!----> they would have needed special devices inside the building

2) The whole in the pentagon is smaller than the aircraft!---> no aircraft crashed into the pentagon

3) No one ever taped this mysterious aircraft, no actually seen this plane!!

4) The pentagon is suposed to be the most secure building in the world!!

5) The WTC shouldn't have collapsed, it has been specially built to resist such things! ------> a bomb was placed inside the building!

6) strangely that day none of the big bosses was in the building... ----> they were told it would happen!

7) when bush was told what happend, he was in a school and just continued to listen to the story about a duck and pretended nothing was at hand

8) ....

All I'm saying is: stop being ridiculous americans!

1) Source. You tell me that hundreds of professional pilots say it can't have hit the WTC, but you offer no proof of this.

2) That only matters if we are trying to say the entire aircraft went through the Pentagon.

3) Well, there's that tape from the security cameras...

4) Right. So the security should have shot down the plane? Is this what we're saying?

5) Source

6) Source

7) No fan of Bush's but the other option was loosing his head and completely freaking out a bunch of little kids. I also don't see how this proves anything. What are you trying to say? He wasn't surprised? He and the people behind this whole conspiracy somehow managed to overlook telling Bush to act surprised? :rolleyes:

8) ... yourself.
Bodies Without Organs
25-06-2006, 20:12
... your dumb if you get a powerful enough telescope you can see the shit we left up there...

I believe they announced that they were going to try this with the VLT a few years back, but I never saw if they were successful or not.

Helpful hint: "you're dumb" not "your dumb".
Barbaric Tribes
25-06-2006, 20:14
Dude I'm not really this good in convincing people, and in explaining stuf and so on but honestly I think that french warfare thing is so exagerated.
lots of the mentioned wars arn't lost, Napoleon was the greatest general EVER it's thanks to him if we have last names and other many things, the only thing why he didn't win and conquered europe was because he did the same mistake hitler did, attack Russia while his troops weren't able to survive in such temperatures. Napoleon had great tactics! He just wanted to much just like any ruler does. That is why no-one shall ever rule the world, any human who has lots of power always wants more!
But to get back to the topic, I think americans are just jalous of the french because they just kiss so well! You can think this is just bullshit, but honestly they do! (well at least the women)
I myself are beglian, and support France in this conflict.
Also if just france and and america would be at war america would certainly win, but the thing is that whole europe would support europe and even maybe asia and south america!
America is becomming a huge joke with this bush thing. Talking about bush, the war in irak is just ridiculous, just mind with your own bussiness!
And btw the WTC was destroyed by americans!!
1) No aircraft could have flied into such a tower like they did, says hundreds ofprofessional pilots!----> they would have needed special devices inside the building

2) The whole in the pentagon is smaller than the aircraft!---> no aircraft crashed into the pentagon

3) No one ever taped this mysterious aircraft, no actually seen this plane!!

4) The pentagon is suposed to be the most secure building in the world!!

5) The WTC shouldn't have collapsed, it has been specially built to resist such things! ------> a bomb was placed inside the building!

6) strangely that day none of the big bosses was in the building... ----> they were told it would happen!

7) when bush was told what happend, he was in a school and just continued to listen to the story about a duck and pretended nothing was at hand

8) ....

All I'm saying is: stop being ridiculous americans!

your just kinda retarded aint ya? its alright, you can be taken care of at certain places.
Kamsaki
25-06-2006, 20:15
I believe they announced that they were going to try this with the VLT a few years back, but I never saw if they were successful or not.
Of course you never saw. Nobody did. The Government controlled media covered it up. Duh.
:D
Bodies Without Organs
25-06-2006, 20:16
5) Source

IIRC the towers were built to survive plane impacts, and succeeded in doings. What they had not been designed to survive was large quantities of burning aviation fuel and the subsequent superheating of structural members.
Barbaric Tribes
25-06-2006, 20:16
I believe they announced that they were going to try this with the VLT a few years back, but I never saw if they were successful or not.

Helpful hint: "you're dumb" not "your dumb".

quit being a grammar nazi where does it get you in life? no-where, it earns you the rep of being a dick, now, Debating about the moon on this forum is off-topic, i simply made a comparison and I knew a dumbass would start screaming about how the moon doesnt even exsist to begin with so nvm, the moon landings never did happen because the moon itself doesnt even exist, you know why? becuase the earth doesnt exist either, neither does humanity, we're all just one big inter-galactic hoax.:eek:
Kamsaki
25-06-2006, 20:18
your just kinda retarded aint ya? its alright, you can be taken care of at certain places.
You know, having noticed responses to the same post 3 times without any change in tone whatsoever, I'm inclined to suggest that perhaps a little checkup on that OCD mightn't go astray.
Raghnarok
25-06-2006, 20:20
Well, I'm just trying to fill up my time, sorry for upsetting you ppl, just wondered what you guys thought of this, I gave my opinion, well you may call me retarted, it happens that I also do that, and yes i mentioned hole and not whole.
Also dude this 'moon' stuf really gets funny ^^
Bodies Without Organs
25-06-2006, 20:20
Of course you never saw. Nobody did. The Government controlled media covered it up. Duh.
:D

No, my little one, NASA quashed the experiment when it was still embryonic...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/11/24/nmoon24.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/11/24/ixnewstop.html

Make of that what you will.
Bodies Without Organs
25-06-2006, 20:21
nvm

'nvm'?
Barbaric Tribes
25-06-2006, 20:22
Well, I'm just trying to fill up my time, sorry for upsetting you ppl, just wondered what you guys thought of this, I gave my opinion, well you may call me retarted, it happens that I also do that, and yes i mentioned hole and not whole.
Also dude this 'moon' stuf really gets funny ^^


I'll agree with you on that, start a moon thread!:)
Barbaric Tribes
25-06-2006, 20:23
'nvm'?


I thought I told you nothing exsists........so go away:(
Corneliu
25-06-2006, 20:30
*looks at the thread and shakes head*

Not the America caused 9/11 conspiracy shit again.
Corneliu
25-06-2006, 20:35
And btw the WTC was destroyed by americans!!
1) No aircraft could have flied into such a tower like they did, says hundreds ofprofessional pilots!----> they would have needed special devices inside the building

Proof?

2) The whole in the pentagon is smaller than the aircraft!---> no aircraft crashed into the pentagon

Well I guess it shows you do not know physics after all. BTW, this has been debunked. A plane did hit the Pentagon and we have witnesses to this fact.

3) No one ever taped this mysterious aircraft, no actually seen this plane!!

The plane is flying pretty fast and witnesses there saw the plane hit the Pentagon so again, this is utter crap.

4) The pentagon is suposed to be the most secure building in the world!!

It is.

5) The WTC shouldn't have collapsed, it has been specially built to resist such things! ------> a bomb was placed inside the building!

Disproven many times on this forum and out in the real world.

6) strangely that day none of the big bosses was in the building... ----> they were told it would happen!

Did you happen to look at the time of the attacks? Also, can I have proof of this please?

7) when bush was told what happend, he was in a school and just continued to listen to the story about a duck and pretended nothing was at hand

:rolleyes:

All I'm saying is: stop being ridiculous americans!

I suggest you do a search for all the 9/11 conspiracy threads on this forum. You'll see the evidence that debunks all of the utter crap you are spewing. Tata.
Kamsaki
25-06-2006, 20:35
I thought I told you nothing exsists........so go away:(
"Exists" has only two instances of the letter S within its composition.
Secular JAVA
25-06-2006, 20:41
Yes, all the people who saw planes hit the buildings were liars, and the large amounts of wreckage was all fake, and the photos showing a plane hitting the pentagon were fake...and all the wreckage from the pentagon was fake...lmao..you have to be kidding me? The Pentagon is actually way bigger than a Boeing 747....duh....But please, dont let me ruin your conspiracy fun...keep going, actually, I heard that Bigfoot also had a hand in the attacks along with Bush....hahahha...
Zamnitia
25-06-2006, 20:48
how did this go from a topic about French warfare to more bs 9/11 conspiracies?
Corneliu
25-06-2006, 20:49
how did this go from a topic about French warfare to more bs 9/11 conspiracies?

Did you read the OP?
Ashmoria
25-06-2006, 20:52
Dude I'm not really this good in convincing people, and in explaining stuf and so on but honestly I think that french warfare thing is so exagerated.
lots of the mentioned wars arn't lost, Napoleon was the greatest general EVER it's thanks to him if we have last names and other many things, the only thing why he didn't win and conquered europe was because he did the same mistake hitler did, attack Russia while his troops weren't able to survive in such temperatures. Napoleon had great tactics! He just wanted to much just like any ruler does. That is why no-one shall ever rule the world, any human who has lots of power always wants more!


napoleon didnt underestimate the russian winter. he wasnt defeated by the russian winter

he underestimated the will of the russian people.

he was spending the winter in moscow, with his own quarters being in the kremlin.

the russians dealt him a killing blow by burning moscow to the ground, giving him no choice but to retreat into the worst winter the people had ever seen. without the willingness to destroy their capital, napoleon and his army would have survived that harsh winter just fine.

anything else you need to be shown the truth of?
The Aeson
25-06-2006, 21:27
I'll agree with you on that, start a moon thread!:)

I believe I shall start a moon thread.
Outcast Jesuits
25-06-2006, 21:53
The French can fight, they're just not a superpower like the US is now or Britain was back in the day.
9/11 conspiracies are just the effect of paranoia due to the infiltration of a once-thought secure system.
Grammar is all-holy. ;)
Ultraextreme Sanity
25-06-2006, 21:57
Dude I'm not really this good in convincing people, and in explaining stuf and so on but honestly I think that french warfare thing is so exagerated.
lots of the mentioned wars arn't lost, Napoleon was the greatest general EVER it's thanks to him if we have last names and other many things, the only thing why he didn't win and conquered europe was because he did the same mistake hitler did, attack Russia while his troops weren't able to survive in such temperatures. Napoleon had great tactics! He just wanted to much just like any ruler does. That is why no-one shall ever rule the world, any human who has lots of power always wants more!
But to get back to the topic, I think americans are just jalous of the french because they just kiss so well! You can think this is just bullshit, but honestly they do! (well at least the women)
I myself are beglian, and support France in this conflict.
Also if just france and and america would be at war america would certainly win, but the thing is that whole europe would support europe and even maybe asia and south america!
America is becomming a huge joke with this bush thing. Talking about bush, the war in irak is just ridiculous, just mind with your own bussiness!
And btw the WTC was destroyed by americans!!
1) No aircraft could have flied into such a tower like they did, says hundreds ofprofessional pilots!----> they would have needed special devices inside the building

2) The whole in the pentagon is smaller than the aircraft!---> no aircraft crashed into the pentagon

3) No one ever taped this mysterious aircraft, no actually seen this plane!!

4) The pentagon is suposed to be the most secure building in the world!!

5) The WTC shouldn't have collapsed, it has been specially built to resist such things! ------> a bomb was placed inside the building!

6) strangely that day none of the big bosses was in the building... ----> they were told it would happen!

7) when bush was told what happend, he was in a school and just continued to listen to the story about a duck and pretended nothing was at hand

8) ....

All I'm saying is: stop being ridiculous americans!



bizzaro world invasion...get me my tin foil hat I must be protected from the evil pimple ray !:eek:


I love this place ! :D :D
Outcast Jesuits
25-06-2006, 22:16
bizzaro world invasion...get me my tin foil hat I must be protected from the evil pimple ray !:eek:


I love this place ! :D :D
Obviously or you wouldn't be here. :rolleyes:
Ultraextreme Sanity
25-06-2006, 22:46
Well, I'm just trying to fill up my time, sorry for upsetting you ppl, just wondered what you guys thought of this, I gave my opinion, well you may call me retarted, it happens that I also do that, and yes i mentioned hole and not whole.
Also dude this 'moon' stuf really gets funny ^^


Well you can commit yourself voluntarily and get mental help . You do not even need insurance .
Outcast Jesuits
25-06-2006, 22:58
Well you can commit yourself voluntarily and get mental help . You do not even need insurance .
Or he can jump off a building as long as he records it for our entertainment.
Kamsaki
25-06-2006, 23:26
Or he can jump off a building as long as he records it for our entertainment.
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