Is it allright to find the Idea of Homosexuality repulsive?
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:20
Well is it? I have nothing against them and I am all for their rights, but i just find the idea pretty sick. Thats fine, isn't it?
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:22
That's OK. Heterosexuality makes me want to throw up and curtail your rights and treat you as second class citizens. That's all right, isn't it?
On a more serious note, I don't give a crap about what you do or don't find repulsive. Just stay out of my business.
HotRodia
24-06-2006, 23:23
Well is it? I have nothing against them and I am all for their rights, but i just find the idea pretty sick. Thats fine, isn't it?
I think it is. Sometimes the practices of others just are not appealing to us.
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:24
That's OK. Heterosexuality makes me want to throw up and curtail your rights and treat you as second class citizens. That's all right, isn't it?
On a more serious note, I don't give a crap about what you do or don't find repulsive. Just stay out of my business.
Of course, because i really wan't to intervine and supress your rights like i said in the first post :rolleyes:
Myrmidonisia
24-06-2006, 23:25
Well is it? I have nothing against them and I am all for their rights, but i just find the idea pretty sick. Thats fine, isn't it?
Yeah, it is pretty hard to figure out what the appeal is. I can't stand having my prostate checked.
On the other hand, I'd rather go to a party with a bunch of homosexuals than a bunch of Baptists.
Seathorn
24-06-2006, 23:25
I think you're trying to say you find the sexual act repulsive, yes?
If so, I know a few that find sex in general repulsive. Then there are those who can't stomach anal sex, blow jobs, and so forth. Does that mean you get to do anything about it? Hardly. You just get to dislike it, shrug and move on. Just avoid the topic if you find it too repulsive for you to talk or think about it.
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:27
I think you're trying to say you find the sexual act repulsive, yes?
If so, I know a few that find sex in general repulsive. Then there are those who can't stomach anal sex, blow jobs, and so forth. Does that mean you get to do anything about it? Hardly. You just get to dislike it, shrug and move on. Just avoid the topic if you find it too repulsive for you to talk or think about it.
I never said i was going to do anything about it, but i feel that people these days may even get criticized for saying something like that. I find that stupid.
The Alma Mater
24-06-2006, 23:28
Well is it? I have nothing against them and I am all for their rights, but i just find the idea pretty sick. Thats fine, isn't it?
Sure - why not ? No doubt there are many other things you find repulsive too, which is also perfectly fine.
Tactical Grace
24-06-2006, 23:29
Homophobia is OK, so long as it does not infringe the rights of others. There is no such thing as thoughtcrime, after all.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:31
Of course, because i really wan't to intervine and supress your rights like i said in the first post :rolleyes:
No, you just wanted to take the opportunity to call the expression of my sexuality "sick" and "repulsive." Gee, how could people get upset about things like that? :rolleyes:
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:31
Homophobia is OK, so long as it does not infringe the rights of others. There is no such thing as thoughtcrime, after all.
I thought homophobia was being afraid of gay people. I have nothing against gay people, one of my good freinds are gay, I just find the act descusting.
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:32
No, you just wanted to take the opportunity to call the expression of my sexuality "sick" and "repulsive." Gee, how could people get upset about things like that? :rolleyes:
I'm sorry to offend you, but thats how people are. Im sure you find hetro sexuality discusting as well, but i don't mind, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:33
I wouldn't say homophobia is ok.
Yes it's ok to think about. Just so long as you don't look at them as less of a person for it. I mean you don't have to like the idea of two guys going at it. That's up to you.
Tactical Grace
24-06-2006, 23:33
I thought homophobia was being afraid of gay people. I have nothing against gay people, one of my good freinds are gay, I just find the act descusting.
Literally, yes, but in practice phobias relating to people, religion and politics describe hatred or disgust, not fear.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:33
I thought homophobia was being afraid of gay people.
Oh, for crying out loud... (http://www.webster.com/dictionary/homophobia)
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:36
Oh, for crying out loud... (http://www.webster.com/dictionary/homophobia)
How is that at all different to the version i said. I am not afraid, nor do i avoid homosexuals in anyway.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:37
I'm sorry to offend you, but thats how people are. Im sure you find hetro sexuality descusting as well,
No, I don't, seeing as I'm secure enough in my sexuality not to find grown ups who have consensual sex the least bit "sick" and "repulsive," and I'm not the type of douche who would tell them if I did, seeing as it's plain old rude and inconsiderate, not to mention infantile and demeaning.
but i don't mind everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
And everyone is entitled to criticising that opinion, or to point out in what way it, indeed, is a shitty opinion to express.
Seathorn
24-06-2006, 23:37
I never said i was going to do anything about it, but i feel that people these days may even get criticized for saying something like that. I find that stupid.
I know you said you weren't going to do anything about it.
My main point was trying to figure out what exactly you meant. Clearly, it's not the relationship part, I assume? It must be the sexual act itself?
In which, quite clearly, you're engaging in thoughtcrime and must be arrested.
Nah, seriously, just don't go around saying you find it repulsive. There's no point, if you're not going to do anything about it. And you better not. :D
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:37
How is that at all different to the version i said. I am not afraid, nor do i avoid homosexuals in anyway.
"aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"
What you expressed is most certainly an "aversion to homosexuality."
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:38
No, I don't, seeing as I'm secure enough in my sexuality not to find grown ups who have consensual sex the least bit "sick" and "repulsive," and I'm not the type of douche who would tell them if I did, seeing as it's plain old rude and inconsiderate, not to mention infantile and demeaning.
And everyone is entitled to criticising that opinion, or to point out in what way it, indeed, is a shitty opinion to express.
Dude, shut the fuck up, you're the only one getting offended. Get the fuck over it, he asked a simple god damned question.
Seathorn
24-06-2006, 23:39
Dude, shut the fuck up, you're the only one getting offended. Get the fuck over it, he asked a simple god damned question.
He could have done so better though.
NilbuDcom
24-06-2006, 23:39
Yeah, went to a gay nightclub with a bunch of Parisien Au Pairs. I tried to explain that Gay nightclubs in Dublin aren't really the same as Gay nightclubs in Paris but oh no... Suffice to say a seedy bar filled with blokes in leather jackets and moustaches trying to suck each others fillings out under a 15 watt red lightbulb, doesn't compare to the Roxy. I'd never been to such a place before and I have to say I did feel kind of queasy and uneasy. We finished our drinks and left pronto, mainly because all the blokes in our group looked like beaten worried dogs.
The Ogiek People
24-06-2006, 23:41
Is it allright to find the Idea of Homosexuality repulsive? Well is it? I have nothing against them and I am all for their rights, but i just find the idea pretty sick. Thats fine, isn't it?
So, it is just the idea you find repulsive? Homosexuality in theory?
The actual practice you enjoy?
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:42
No, I don't, seeing as I'm secure enough in my sexuality not to find grown ups who have consensual sex the least bit "sick" and "repulsive," and I'm not the type of douche who would tell them if I did, seeing as it's plain old rude and inconsiderate, not to mention infantile and demeaning.
And everyone is entitled to criticising that opinion, or to point out in what way it, indeed, is a shitty opinion to express.
You take it as if i am saying that the person is sick or "wrong". I never said that, i just think that homosexual sex is just pretty sick. Like people who think marmite is sick or violent movies are sick.
If you were really secure about your sexuality, you wouldn't get offended in this way.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:42
Dude, shut the fuck up,
No, I don't believe I will.
you're the only one getting offended.
So? That makes the offence somehow not exist?
Get the fuck over it, he asked a simple god damned question.
And I gave him a simple "god damned" answer. Tough titties it's not the "oh, go ahead, please call my sexuality 'repulsive' and 'sick'" inanity you wanted to hear.
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:43
So? That makes the offence somehow not exist?
No, that means you overreacted.
The Alma Mater
24-06-2006, 23:45
Yes it's ok to think about. Just so long as you don't look at them as less of a person for it. I mean you don't have to like the idea of two guys going at it. That's up to you.
He is also free to look down on them. That is a logical consequence.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:46
I never said that, i just think that homosexual sex is just pretty sick.
And how could anyone find that - the designation of the way one expresses love and makes love as "sick" and "repulsive" - offensive? Why, it's ever so comparable to not liking marmite, which, you know, is an integral part of people's personalities, too. :rolleyes:
If you were really secure about your sexuality, you wouldn't get offended in this way.
You seem to be confusing "not taking crap" and not telling you what you want to hear as being insecurity. Interesting how diametrically wrong you are.
Raventree
24-06-2006, 23:47
And I gave him a simple "god damned" answer. Tough titties it's not the "oh, go ahead, please call my sexuality 'repulsive' and 'sick'" inanity you wanted to hear.
Goddamn, why are queers so irritatingly humorless?
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:47
He is also free to look down on them. That is a logical consequence.
I didn't say he wasn't free to. I just said it wasn't right, in my opinion.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:47
No, that means you overreacted.
No, that means I expressed an opinion on his opinion. Imagine that.
The Ogiek People
24-06-2006, 23:47
Encyclopedia Britannica
Internet: a system architecture that has revolutionized communications and methods of commerce by allowing various computer networks around the world to interconnect so that people from all over the world can discuss where they should put their genitals.
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:48
No, that means I expressed an opinion on his opinion. Imagine that.
No you expressed your anger with him for his opinion.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:48
Goddamn, why are queers so irritatingly humorless?
I find being called "sick" and "repulsive" not the least bit funny. I pity you if you do.
Well is it? I have nothing against them and I am all for their rights, but i just find the idea pretty sick. Thats fine, isn't it?
I don't see anything wrong with that opinion. If you found gay sex of your gender intriguing well then...
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:49
I find being called "sick" and "repulsive" not the least bit funny. I pity you if you do.
He said it was repulsive to him... That doesn't mean you are sick and repulsive, he said he didn't like it.
I'm sure there are things you find repulsive.
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:50
And how could anyone find that - the designation of the way one expresses love and makes love as "sick" and "repulsive" - offensive? Why, it's ever so comparable to not liking marmite, which, you know, is an integral part of people's personalities, too. :rolleyes:
Fine your "offended", so what, does that mean im not allowed to think that homosexual sex is sick. Im sure there are many people who find stuff i do as "sick", and i respect their opinion.
You seem to be confusing "not taking crap" and not telling you what you want to hear as being insecurity. Interesting how diametrically wrong you are.
No, i call respecting other peoples opinion and realising it is not an attack on you personally being secure.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:50
No you expressed your anger with him for his opinion.
If you think the intarwebs elicit emotions with me, you are gravely mistaken. I expressed the simple opinion that his is a shitty opinion. You may want to adjust your delicate sensibilities if you pick up on "anger."
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:54
Fine your "offended", so what, does that mean im not allowed to think that homosexual sex is sick. Im sure there are many people who find stuff i do as "sick", and i respect their opinion.
Oh, you're allowed to think whatever you want. You don't get to bitch believably about other people not liking it when you express it, though. Freedom of expression also means that other people get to go "cor, that's stupid, what he just thought and said."
No, i call respecting other peoples opinion and realising it is not an attack on you personally being secure.
I don't respect your opinion, if you haven't understood that yet. I've way too much respect for myself than to let people who call my sexuality "sick" and "repulsive" go on thinking that I find that "OK."
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:55
Oh, you're allowed to think whatever you want. You don't get to bitch about other people not liking it when you express it, though. Freedom of expression also means that other people get to go "cor, that's stupid, what he just thought and said."
Freedom of expression also means I get to tell you that I think you're a fucking idiot.
Oh, for crying out loud... (http://www.webster.com/dictionary/homophobia)
I disagree with that definition. That's a poor and politically biased use of the word.
Hydesland
24-06-2006, 23:57
Oh, you're allowed to think whatever you want. You don't get to bitch believably about other people not liking it when you express it, though. Freedom of expression also means that other people get to go "cor, that's stupid, what he just thought and said."
I don't mind if people disagree with my opinion, but i do find it anoying when people lable me as someone who hates gays.
I don't respect your opinion, if you haven't understood that yet. I've way too much respect for myself then to let people who call my sexuality "sick" and "repulsive" go on thinking that I find that "OK."
Again, i don't find your sexuality sick, just homosexual sex.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 23:57
Freedom of expression also means I get to tell you that I think you're a fucking idiot.
You seem to think we have freedom of expression on this forum, which couldn't be further from the truth. You'll see soon that calling people names here is not only juvenile, but also not very much tolerated for that long.
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:58
Here let me put it this way.
He finds you being gay perfectly fine.
He doesn't care you're gay.
He'll be your friend still.
He just doesn't like the idea of sticking his penis in another man's ass, or vice versa.
Get it?
Haradwaich
24-06-2006, 23:59
You seem to think we have freedom of expression on this forum, which couldn't be further from the truth. You'll see soon that calling people names here is not only juvenile, but also not very much tolerated for that long.
I didn't say you were a fucking idiot, I said I THINK you are a fucking idiot. Big difference.
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:01
I don't mind if people disagree with my opinion, but i do find it anoying when people lable me as someone who hates gays.
Oh, you don't very much like that, do you? Not so much fun when it's part of your personality that is maligned, is it?
Again, i don't find your sexuality sick, just homosexual sex.
And how do you think I express my sexuality? By painting fences? Please, spare me the impotent semantics.
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:04
I didn't say you were a fucking idiot, I said I THINK you are a fucking idiot. Big difference.
You'll see that that particular distinction is pretty much not respected. So, please, refrain from the puerile name-calling.
Eutrusca
25-06-2006, 00:04
Well is it? I have nothing against them and I am all for their rights, but i just find the idea pretty sick. Thats fine, isn't it?
Yes, as long as it doesn't prompt you to discriminate against gays because of their being gay. What you think of their sexual proclivities is your own business.
There are a number of people here in the Bible Belt who consider me a heathern because I'm very sexually liberated. That's fine with me, but if they use it as an excuse to discriminate against me somebody gone git hurt! :D
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:04
I disagree with that definition.
How fortunate that I don't care, seeing as it's a dictionary.
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:05
Yes, as long as it doesn't prompt you to discriminate against gays because of their being gay. What you think of their sexual proclivities is your own business.
It stops being his business when he tells someone "I think your sexuality is sick and repulsive." It becomes something no one else has to agree with, and something everyone else may rebuke him for.
Hydesland
25-06-2006, 00:06
Oh, you don't very much like that, do you? Not so much fun when it's part of your personality that is maligned, is it?
Thats completely different, when did i stereotype or label you as anything?
And how do you think I express my sexuality? By painting fences? Please, spare me the impotent semantics.
Don't say i hate homosexuality then.
Eutrusca
25-06-2006, 00:07
It stops being his business when he tells someone "I think your sexuality is sick and repulsive."
I disagree. He still has just as much right to freedom of speech as anyone else. If his statements bother you, as they do me, then just don't listen or read. Simple. :)
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:09
Thats completely different, when did i stereotype or label you as anything?
You just called the way I make love "sick" and "repulsive." Gee, that's just something I should find peachy, isn't it?
Don't say i hate homosexuality then.
Which I never did - you just find it "sick" and "repulsive," which qualifies as an "aversion," making your opinion indeed homophobic.
Hydesland
25-06-2006, 00:09
I don't understand it, how can it bother anyone that i would find having gay sex with someone sick.
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:11
I disagree. He still has just as much right to freedom of speech as anyone else.
Freedom of speech is not freedom from speech. What you say anyone else get to have a say about.
If his statements bother you, as they do me, then just don't listen or read. Simple. :)
Or, I can just express what I think about his statements. Simple.
Haradwaich
25-06-2006, 00:11
You'll see that that particular distinction is pretty much not respected. So, please, refrain from the puerile name-calling.
I could, but I don't want to.
Hydesland
25-06-2006, 00:12
You just called the way I make love "sick" and "repulsive." Gee, that's just something I should find peachy, isn't it?
Thats still completely different. But you don't live in the illusion that everyone thinks that having gay sex is attractive do you?
Which I never did - you just find it "sick" and "repulsive," which qualifies as an "aversion," making your opinion indeed homophobic.
I don't care what your stupid "dictionary" says, the commen definition for homophobia is someone who is scarde of gay people, hence the word phobia in it. I do not what to be labelled this way.
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:12
I don't understand it, how can it bother anyone that i would find having gay sex with someone sick.
How could it bother you that someone calls your attitude homophobic?
Eutrusca
25-06-2006, 00:14
I can just express what I think about his statements. Simple.
Exactly. Something which I am sure you can handle with considerable ease. :D
Tactical Grace
25-06-2006, 00:15
Or, I can just express what I think about his statements. Simple.
You can also drop it.
Thread locked for degenerating into flamebait.