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World opinion about USA in 4 years?

[NS]Sevenglasses
24-06-2006, 13:37
In 2008 a new president will be elected. What do you think how the world will think about the USA in 2010, when the new president will have had some time to make his positions clear?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 13:38
Well, that depends entirely on who will be elected. [/stating the obvious]
New Shabaz
24-06-2006, 13:40
It doesn't matter who's elected it matters what they do. Too many variables Iraq, UBL, inflation etc....

Well, that depends entirely on who will be elected. [/stating the obvious]
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 13:41
I doubt my opinion will change, seeing the abysmal election record the US has had since, well, Lyndon Johnson.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 13:48
It doesn't matter who's elected it matters what they do. Too many variables Iraq, UBL, inflation etc....
That's what I meant. I wasn't exactly talking about the world waiting with baited breath to see if the most handsome candidate wins to get out their "We love America" bumper stickers.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-06-2006, 13:48
A best-case scenario would be if Bill Clinton were appointed Secretary of State by the new president. Then he could sexify other countries into liking us again.

Anything else would leave some uncertainty. *nod*
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 13:50
That's what I meant. I wasn't exactly talking about the world waiting with baited breath to see if the most handsome candidate wins to get out their "We love America" bumper stickers.

I wasn't aware we in the rest of the world even had bumper stickers to begin with. It's always struck me as a very USA phenomenon, this "decorate your car with your stupid opinions" business.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 13:55
I wasn't aware we in the rest of the world even had bumper stickers to begin with. It's always struck me as a very USA phenomenon, this "decorate your car with your stupid opinions" business.
You know, you're actually right. :eek:
They've already americanized my thinking.

*runs off to make a nice hat out of tin foil, which is actually made from aluminium* <-- please note carefully applied British spelling.
[NS]Liasia
24-06-2006, 13:57
Well if Clinton get's elected, neutral if not worse. Have a go at videgames my ass.
Kanabia
24-06-2006, 13:58
I wasn't aware we in the rest of the world even had bumper stickers to begin with. It's always struck me as a very USA phenomenon, this "decorate your car with your stupid opinions" business.

We do over here...


Anyway, I expect that the new US president will be more or less like GWB, but the rhetoric may differ slightly.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 13:59
You know, you're actually right. :eek:
They've already americanized my thinking.

Honey, they did that a long time ago...

*runs off to make a nice hat out of tin foil, which is actually made from aluminium* <-- please note carefully applied British spelling.

... this spelling notwithstanding, in regard to your spelling history. You do get kudos for it, though, but extra such will be granted if you pronounce it properly, as well.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 14:00
We do over here...

Well, Australia is pretty much a US puppet, so it doesn't really count.
GreaterPacificNations
24-06-2006, 14:05
Well, Australia is pretty much a US puppet, so it doesn't really count.
politically:rolleyes: GWB hasm't mandated that all Aussies use bumper stickers. Besides, I am yet to see a political bumper sticker. It is all out-back pubs, radio station advertisements, and crude jokes in Australia.
Kanabia
24-06-2006, 14:07
politically:rolleyes: GWB hasm't mandated that all Aussies use bumper stickers. Besides, I am yet to see a political bumper sticker. It is all out-back pubs, radio station advertisements, and crude jokes in Australia.

I saw a "reffo's fuck off" (refugees) one the other day.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 14:12
Honey, they did that a long time ago...



... this spelling notwithstanding, in regard to your spelling history.Who are you, MI6? I feel watched. <.< >.>

You do get kudos for it, though, but extra such will be granted if you pronounce it properly, as well. Well, then get out the extra such, because there isn't really a way to mispronounce this. If you can forgive me for not managing the stiff upper lip, that is.
Neu Heidelberg
24-06-2006, 14:14
whoever will be elected, it will take the USA more than two years to get rid of the image GWB's presidency gave them. Iraq won't easilly be forgotten, for one thing.
Hakubi
24-06-2006, 14:15
Honey, they did that a long time ago...



... this spelling notwithstanding, in regard to your spelling history. You do get kudos for it, though, but extra such will be granted if you pronounce it properly, as well.

Now here's real question what is the indefinite article that precede's words beginning with "h"?

:p
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 14:19
Now here's real question what is the indefinite article that precede's words beginning with "h"?

:p

It depends on if the word starts with a vowel sound. That it is commenced by a consonant is irrelevant.
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 14:21
Who are you, MI6? I feel watched. <.< >.>

I'd refer more to SÄPO, but you are only as watched as you post.

Well, then get out the extra such, because there isn't really a way to mispronounce this.

Tell that to the people across the pond. "Aluminum" - they actually pronounce it like that.

If you can forgive me for not managing the stiff upper lip, that is.

As long as you manage the lower ones, all is well.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 14:23
It depends on if the word starts with a vowel sound. That it is commenced by a consonant is irrelevant.
Actually, in writing, both "a" and "an" would be correct.

Boy, we're hijacking the thread. I'll stop now. Sorry, OP. :S
Baguetten
24-06-2006, 14:36
Actually, in writing, both "a" and "an" would be correct.

Actually, no. It is only if the subsequent sound is that of a vowel that one uses "an." So, for instance, that's why we say a "u" but "an x." U is a vowel, but is pronounced "you" -> a, x is a consonant, but is pronounced "eks" -> an.

So, it's not the writing, but the pronunciation that is important. /end-jack.
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 14:38
It really depends what the new president does. It could be, say John McCain, and he could potentially make the U.S. look much better in international opinion, but since he's a maverick, Congress might not support him (the Republicans think he's too liberal, Democrats he's too conservative), and he won't be able to get anything done. If its Hillary Clinton, well I hate her (she tries to take away my games, I'll get out my Gunblade and Firaga her ass), and she's also not exactly a subtle person, so I don't think she'll really do much. In a best-case scenario, we make the United States less hated than it is now (well, it isn't really HATED now, just really dis-liked), but I think it'll take a while for America to regain it's previous reputation.

OR China can start going on a massive invading spree, and the world will come to American and say, "PROTECT US FROM THE COMMIES!" like they did during the Cold War, and we can have the impression that the world likes America after all (although it will really be the world pretending to like us because they like the Chinese even less)
Carops
24-06-2006, 14:41
It's going to take a lot more than a change of president to save the US' image in most of the world. To be honest, I don't think it can be saved in the eyes of the Muslim world at all.
Markreich
24-06-2006, 14:44
I find that the image of the GWB is the worst of any American President, except for Clinton, H.W. Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson... well you get the idea.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 14:48
Actually, no. It is only if the subsequent sound is that of a vowel that one uses "an." So, for instance, that's why we say a "u" but "an x." U is a vowel, but is pronounced "you" -> a, x is a consonant, but is pronounced "eks" -> an.

So, it's not the writing, but the pronunciation that is important. /end-jack.
Oh boy. You're right. I suck. I swear, you Swedes give me brainfreeze. Sure you're not a puppet of Fass? Because he always does that. [/really end hijack]
Greyenivol Colony
25-06-2006, 00:09
Speaking for Great Britain here, I think the opinion of the United States would go up if we perceived the new President as being a man (or woman) of honour. For example, Sen. McCain is a man of honour, and even though as a republican he is several parsecs to the Right of anyone on this island, we can still respect him as a principled individual... if he's elected.

But someone like Bush is seen as cowardly, (sorry to bring this up but) stupid and tastelessly using Jesus as a cover.
Soheran
25-06-2006, 00:12
I don't think a new president will change much of anything.
Eutrusca
25-06-2006, 00:12
Sevenglasses']In 2008 a new president will be elected. What do you think how the world will think about the USA in 2010, when the new president will have had some time to make his positions clear?
Where's the option "Don't give a shit?" :confused:
Empress_Suiko
25-06-2006, 00:46
Sevenglasses']In 2008 a new president will be elected. What do you think how the world will think about the USA in 2010, when the new president will have had some time to make his positions clear?



I will have a negative view of this country no matter who is in office.
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:50
Where's the option "Don't give a shit?" :confused:

For someone who doesn't, you sure do post a lot on the subject. You even went so far as to write an entry on urbandictionary.com about USian and how you like to think it's derogatory and how you didn't like it (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=USian). Your own words betray you, Forrest.
Gartref
25-06-2006, 00:54
Where's the option "Don't give a shit?" :confused:

You could have exersized that option by keepin yer frakkin mouth shut. ;)
Baguetten
25-06-2006, 00:55
You could have exersized that option by keepin yer frakkin mouth shut. ;)

Yeah, he most certainly doesn't care... (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=USian)
Tactical Grace
25-06-2006, 00:58
It's the foreign policy, not the president, that decides how the country is viewed.
New Zero Seven
25-06-2006, 00:58
Lets hope there will be light at the end of the tunnel.
Empress_Suiko
25-06-2006, 01:03
Lets hope there will be light at the end of the tunnel.



Not unless america consumer culture changes.
DesignatedMarksman
25-06-2006, 01:05
Who cares. I'm betting on another harder GWB next time around.
Minkonio
25-06-2006, 01:05
My opinion is that world opinion of us will rise in the next 4-6 years, due largely to our leading role in subduing Irans' nuclear ambitions (which is coming up, mark my words), and probably because there will be a major terrorist attack somewhere in Europe, bigger than the London and Madrid bombings, which will lead allot of Europe to support our more aggressive stance against terrorists.

Also, I doubt a Democrat will take over anytime in the next 6 years, due to their lack of quality candidates who the majority of the people would vote for...I see a McCain victory in 2008 and 2012.
Nickeragua
25-06-2006, 01:06
I think any new president will be beter then GWB beccause he is a comlepte idiot, i would be embarrassed if i was american to have such a retarded ruler:upyours:
Gartref
25-06-2006, 01:06
Not unless america consumer culture changes.

I agree. I am currently marketing a collection of hero action figures that fight against consumerism.
[NS]Zukariaa
25-06-2006, 01:06
I think any new president will be beter then GWB beccause he is a comlepte idiot, i would be embarrassed if i was american to have such a retarded ruler:upyours:
Lawl.
Vadrouille
25-06-2006, 04:27
Sevenglasses']In 2008 a new president will be elected. What do you think how the world will think about the USA in 2010, when the new president will have had some time to make his positions clear?

Hopefully, the president will have made HER positions clear... ;) Personally, I would love to see a race between Condoleeza Rice and Hilary Clinton, although I think the chances of that happening are pretty nil.

I think that in certain parts of the world, America is unpopular mostly because of Bush's policies and political agenda, and in other parts, it's seen in a negative light because of older issues/ historical reasons (i.e. the Vietnam "War.")

Hopefully, the new president will have are more sensible approach to foreign policy, and will work to make amends with countries that we have wronged in some way. If the United States works to improve its image, it can happen, although it will be difficult.
The Jovian Moons
25-06-2006, 04:53
W's rating is at 33%. we won't have another like him for a while
People without names
25-06-2006, 05:07
there will be no new president. i am starting a petition to make GWB our supreme ruler, perhaps turning the united states into a kingdom with a monarchy:p