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What do entertainers contribute to society?

Lt_Cody
24-06-2006, 06:47
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?
Tropical Sands
24-06-2006, 06:49
Ever live in a society without entertainment? Probably not. Has a major civilization in history ever existed without institutions of entertainment? No again.

That should tell you something about its value.
The Ogiek People
24-06-2006, 06:54
If all the world's religious and political fanatics died tomorrow how long would it take social scientists to calculate the positive effect?
Maraque
24-06-2006, 06:56
If all the world's religious and political fanatics died tomorrow how long would it take social scientists to calculate the positive effect?There wouldn't be a single person on this Earth.
DesignatedMarksman
24-06-2006, 06:56
If all the world's religious and political fanatics died tomorrow how long would it take social scientists to calculate the positive effect?

Shiiite you are talking atleast a billion right there, including a certain kansas "Church" and a million mosques scattered across the ME/Europe/AMERICA
Ginnoria
24-06-2006, 06:58
The human race has only one really effective weapon and that is laughter.
Mondoth
24-06-2006, 06:59
If all the worlds entertainers died in one instant, Society would collapse pretty much instantly.

If on the otherhand, they were weeded out slowly over a few years. Society would take as long as twenty four hours to reduce itself to rubble.
Pride and Prejudice
24-06-2006, 06:59
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?

Let's see - although I suppose we'd keep all the records of previous entertainment, and that could last us our entire lives, we'd never get new humor (eventually that stuff will become not humorous), we wouldn't have our political commentary, social commentary, etc. We would lose one influence on bettering ourselves as a people. Uh, I think that's a pretty bad negative effect.
Ginnoria
24-06-2006, 07:04
Shiiite you are talking atleast a billion right there, including a certain kansas "Church" and a million mosques scattered across the ME/Europe/AMERICA
God has no religion.
Rotovia-
24-06-2006, 07:07
Art is the difference between a society, and a civilization
Kinda Sensible people
24-06-2006, 07:08
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?

- Mass boredom
- Loss of true creativity
- Loss of status as civilization
- Loss of inspiration


That said, what's an entertainer? A clown? A juggler? Sure, they're entertainers.

But musicians, painters, and writers are artists, so they'd stay around.
Tropical Sands
24-06-2006, 07:11
That said, what's an entertainer? A clown? A juggler? Sure, they're entertainers.

But musicians, painters, and writers are artists, so they'd stay around.

Well we can't get rid of the clowns because then the artists who paint the sad clown pictures wouldn't have any more subject matter. Its a downward spiral.
NeoThalia
24-06-2006, 07:12
The human mind is not designed for prolonged instances of boring or arduous activity.


Essentially humans possess a psychological necessity for entertainment. Without entertainers society would almost certainly collapse.



And I personally resent the accusation that everyone on earth is either a political or religious fanatic. I am neither. In fact I consider most extremes of beliefs and actions to be distasteful at best and immoral at worst. Moderation is almost universally good for both personal and social stability.

NT
DesignatedMarksman
24-06-2006, 07:14
Meat.
Kinda Sensible people
24-06-2006, 07:30
Well we can't get rid of the clowns because then the artists who paint the sad clown pictures wouldn't have any more subject matter. Its a downward spiral.

They can just become abstract clown painters. Splatter-paint clowns are in, you know.
The Black Forrest
24-06-2006, 08:25
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?

Why don't you ask all the soldiers what it meant to have Bob Hope do his shows for them?
Soheran
24-06-2006, 08:27
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?

No entertainment. Which is an extremely negative effect.
Greyenivol Colony
24-06-2006, 12:26
What do entertainers contribute to society?

Entertainment?

Seriously, we'd be screwed without them, although, if they left/died, I'm sure they'd be quickly replaced, as is their neccessity.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-06-2006, 12:33
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?

Yeah, I'd be DEAD!

In my opinion, that's a pretty negative effect. :p
BogMarsh
24-06-2006, 12:39
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?

We'd be losing Myrth.

Perish the thought. Horrible.
Bakamongue
24-06-2006, 13:08
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?Entertainers save a city from discontent, insofar as a citizens assigned to being an entertainer (as opposed to regular production or duty as a tax man) produce "luxuries" instead of the standard gamut of resources, etc. A single luxury is enough to turn an unhappy citizen into a content one and any surplus luxuries go towards converting contnt citizens into happy ones (requiring two luxuries each).

Entertainers are also the default non-production profession for surplus citizens, for populations exceeding 20, or where lack of exploration in the early stages or overlapping cities (of your nation or any other, friend or foe) or even non-native units denying smaller populations the full use of the production squares within range.

If all entertainers died, under some circumstances it would aid the player, as 'surplus' entertainers do not aid production, but if your government type requires entertainers to prevent civil unrest in your cities (or you cannot garrison enough military to quell any unhappiness, where this is an option), then the loss of entertainers might be a mixed blessing, either reducing the background malcontentedness to a level not requiring the diverting of production to luxories, or else requiring too high a cost in lost production when converting further citizenry to enough entertainers to placate the ever-dwindling (but still upset) remainder.

I prefer to try to avoid the use of entertainers, spawning (and, if possible, shelling out for the quick production of) settler units to bring a city down to managable levels, recognising that massive numbers of settlers constructing roads or making other terrain improvements are generally rather draining on the home city's production, so would strive towards founding new (non-overlapping) cities or even relocating and disbanding at a community where an expansion of population would be advantagous. If the population can support nonproductive citizens and is not requiring luxuries, conversion to taxmen or scientists (according top the needs and technological stage of the empire) might be a more humane option.


(Yes, I do live too much inthe world of classic computer games... ;))
Lunatic Goofballs
24-06-2006, 13:36
Dead!!!

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/traurig/sad-smiley-010.gif
Saturn Corp
24-06-2006, 14:01
My knee-jerk thought when I read the title was the mass-media "entertainment". If that died, the collective IQ of the human race would double! However, entertainment itself can never die. It's part of us. The crap that claims to be "entertainment" on TV is just what I said - crap! But what about the friend who cheers you up by doing an imitation of Ted Kennedy? What about some guy who spontaneusly starts singing a song? No, the world needs REAL entertainers to keep what little remains of its sanity.
GreaterPacificNations
24-06-2006, 14:10
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?
I anticipate there would be an impact on entertainment. Entertainers contribute entertainment to a society. Entertainment is as valuable as it sells for. If people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy it. Regardless of efficiency and production. If people wanted blue goats, then they'd get them. What do the goats contribute to society? Apart from the market stimulation of the trading of their corpses they'd serve to make people happier, and fufill somebodirs capitalistic desire.
Lt_Cody
24-06-2006, 18:29
I think there's been some misunderstanding. This isn't "They all die and there's no more entertainers ever again" it's just if they all died.
Lunatic Goofballs
25-06-2006, 11:48
I think there's been some misunderstanding. This isn't "They all die and there's no more entertainers ever again" it's just if they all died.

I don't want to die. :(
HotRodia
25-06-2006, 11:52
I don't want to die. :(

I don't want you to die, LG. NSG should not be without its class clown. What a dull place it would be.
Europa Maxima
25-06-2006, 11:53
A civilisation without art is one which has lost its raison d'etre as far as I am concerned. Wolves can organise socially, tribesmen can organise economic exchanges. Thus, these are rudimentary. Only the civilised man can partake in artistic processes though.
Keruvalia
25-06-2006, 11:57
I don't want to die. :(

Me neither. I'm too cute to die!
People without names
25-06-2006, 12:19
we would be okay untill they were able to find new entertainers. untill then we can also play video games and watch movies and pre recorded tv shows. technology gives us a nice buffer in between times.
Strategic Grace
25-06-2006, 12:22
If all the world's entertainers died tomorrow, would there be any negative effect (besides the obvious loss of human life)?
It would get boring watching re-runs forever