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However, are we over due some NS General elections?

However, are we over due some NS General elections?

Since the past ones were a sham, and all future are bound to be, seeing as no one in these fora need to be represented by anyone else, no, and we will hopefully never see a repeat of the farce.

Since the past ones were a sham, and all future are bound to be, seeing as no one in these fora need to be represented by anyone else, no, and we will hopefully never see a repeat of the farce.

But...But...youhave17posts!!!

But...But...youhave17posts!!!

In this incarnation.

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However, are we over due some NS General elections?
Last ones were at the end of March, weren't they? As they're meant to be every four months...no.

NS elections are even more pointless than the old NS popularity awards. Screw 'em.

Last ones were at the end of March, weren't they? As they're meant to be every four months...no.

They were not at the end of March were they? I bloody missed them then:mad:

What are they even for, anyway?

They were not at the end of March were they? I bloody missed them then:mad:
You hardly missed anything. The usual allegations of vote-rigging, the usual people complaining that they're pointless, the usual counter-arguments that it's "just a bit of fun", etc, etc.

NS General Parliament became a sink of corruption, apathy and impotence. It was stormed by the NS General Revolution and a state of anarchy ensued, bringing peace.

No. Just no.

Disclaimer: This is not a starter thread, nor am I volunteering to organise them.

However, are we over due some NS General elections?


i know this is off topic and all but, you signed up as France in the "An Imperial world" RP and i think i have sent you two TGs already about your lack of posting. i personaly would like to know if you are leaving the RP or if you will start posting. and i have yet to get a TG from you

NS elections are even more pointless than the old NS popularity awards. Screw 'em.
I agree those popularity awards were...

I really thought the Top Poster awards were crap.

You hardly missed anything. The usual allegations of vote-rigging, the usual people complaining that they're pointless, the usual counter-arguments that it's "just a bit of fun", etc, etc.
fun for some, and the usual few trying to spoil that fun for them, yes :rolleyes:

as has already been answered, the next ones are due next month. i will be starting up a new party for it *nods*

Interesting...

fun for some, and the usual few trying to spoil that fun for them, yes :rolleyes:

as has already been answered, the next ones are due next month. i will be starting up a new party for it *nods*

A new one? What's wrong with the UDCP?

Elections? Huh?:confused:

Nothing's wrong with the UDCP, except their principles, methods, arguments, idealogies...

fun for some, and the usual few trying to spoil that fun for them, yes :rolleyes:

as has already been answered, the next ones are due next month. i will be starting up a new party for it *nods*
As will I, but not as crazy as last time.

Oh god.. ther huge party ad sigs... :(

Anyone remember the Birthday Party? Party?

A new one? What's wrong with the UDCP?
nothing. some of my thoughts/beliefs have changed over time is all

nothing. some of my thoughts/beliefs have changed over time is all
Oh? More or less radical?

nothing. some of my thoughts/beliefs have changed over time is all

...there's a diehard free market capitalist within each and every one of us.

Give in to your feelings, Luke!

Oh god.. ther huge party ad sigs... :(

Anyone remember the Birthday Party? Party?
The only one I remember is MOBRA.

Oh god.. ther huge party ad sigs... :(

Anyone remember the Birthday Party? Party?
Of course. But they didn't make it onto the final election poll, so people were calling for boycotts, weren't they?

The only one I remember is MOBRA.
Hm.. *shrugs*

...there's a diehard free market capitalist within each and every one of us.

Give in to your feelings, Luke!
Yes, give in to cannibalism!

Of course. But they didn't make it onto the final election poll, so people were calling for boycotts, weren't they?
Yes!

They did'nt have it set up properly or something.. maybe it will evolve.. or not..

Who created it anyway?

Oh? More or less radical?
err... well, i always believed the ideologies of the UDCP to be a long-term approach (up to 200 years, say) but that it was important to have a specific target to aim for. i also believed that in terms of every-day politics the UDCP is too radical - all communism is. people are not ready for it just now. i still believe the UDCP is a simply great set of ideals, but for today it is too far-fetched. i will continue to support the party as far as i can though (and will stay a regional member, admin, etc etc)

the new party will be less radical and very much more based on equality of opportunity rather than that of outcome (ie meritocracy rather than wage fixing), and still rather socialist in nature, but probably quite libertarian.
i'm not actually sure - am still figuring out things in my head and researching/reading things... busy at the mo but will get on it as soon as i have some spare time :)


...there's a diehard free market capitalist within each and every one of us.

Give in to your feelings, Luke!
hahaha i don't think that's gonna happen any time soon :p

hahaha i don't think that's gonna happen any time soon :p

So you say, because you dislike the label, but your criticisms of communism, your social views, your discussion about meritocracy, all of these trains eventually stop at Capitalism Station. :)

So you say, because you dislike the label, but your criticisms of communism, your social views, your discussion about meritocracy, all of these trains eventually stop at Capitalism Station. :)
That doesn't mean he has to get off there. He could hide in the bathroom from the ticket collector and ride the rails all the way back to communism.

That doesn't mean he has to get off there. He could hide in the bathroom from the ticket collector and ride the rails all the way back to communism.

That's true, but then his going in circles would cause him to seriously question the validity of train travel at all, and he'd be compelled to use the magic of capitalism to purchase an automobile and drive somewhere else!

That doesn't mean he has to get off there. He could hide in the bathroom from the ticket collector and ride the rails all the way back to communism.
i don't know where i'm going on this crazy train :p


but seriously, it won't be to capitalism. it will be in some way... but not in others. for starters, capitalism, theoretical or no, is not a meritocracy... and that's where i'll be looking to get off at *nods*

Oh god.. ther huge party ad sigs... :(

Anyone remember the Birthday Party? Party?
You just make sure you vote ESP in the next election. I could see you joining it actually. Fancy being an MP?

That's true, but then his going in circles would cause him to seriously question the validity of train travel at all, and he'd be compelled to use the magic of capitalism to purchase an automobile and drive somewhere else!
Or he could walk, though I don't know what political ideaology that would be in this strange analogy.

the new party will be less radical and very much more based on equality of opportunity rather than that of outcome (ie meritocracy rather than wage fixing), and still rather socialist in nature, but probably quite libertarian.
i'm not actually sure - am still figuring out things in my head and researching/reading things... busy at the mo but will get on it as soon as i have some spare time :)
Sounds interesting. I was considering creating a party based around social freedom, possibly free-trade and globalization (freedom of movement, condemnation of military buildup etc.) and progressive programs to attack the causes of poverty and raise the poor up, not just throw money at them (New Deal-esque) that purposefully rejects using any named ideologies, as they are often divisive and usually annoy someone. When you’ve come to a decision about your own party, send me a tg.

i don't know where i'm going on this crazy train :p


but seriously, it won't be to capitalism. it will be in some way... but not in others. for starters, capitalism, theoretical or no, is not a meritocracy... and that's where i'll be looking to get off at *nods*
Heh.

Also, well. If this is really where you and capitalism differ than all you need to do is realize that capitalism is essentially meritocratic. Once you make this realization you will be in capitalism-land. Naturally you will oppose this concept, but I have good hopes that you will see the light. Amen.

Or he could walk, though I don't know what political ideaology that would be in this strange analogy.

Bikes are better than walking. Among other things, they can help you escape the zombie hordes more efficiently.

Bikes are better than walking. Among other things, they can help you escape the zombie hordes more efficiently.
China has a preponderance of bicycles, if a pop singer whose name I can't remember is to be believed, maybe he should get off there?

And there is no escape from the zombie hordes. Acept your new undead overlords.

You just make sure you vote ESP in the next election. I could see you joining it actually. Fancy being an MP?
Maybe.. sure, what the hell!

If this is really where you and capitalism differ -snip-


hehe not at all :P

than all you need to do is realize that capitalism is essentially meritocratic.


and nonsense...


Sounds interesting. I was considering creating a party based around social freedom, possibly free-trade and globalization (freedom of movement, condemnation of military buildup etc.) and progressive programs to attack the causes of poverty and raise the poor up, not just throw money at them (New Deal-esque) that purposefully rejects using any named ideologies, as they are often divisive and usually annoy someone. When you’ve come to a decision about your own party, send me a tg.
hmm sounds interesting there too :)
go for it!

Maybe.. sure, what the hell!
With you on our side, we can't lose!!! Well, yeah, we can. And probably will. I want an improvement on the 3 seats we won last time.

Sounds as if there'll be some interesting parties next time round.

With the elections being in summer, I'll probably not stand for a seat, but I'll continue to support the UDCP.

With you on our side, we can't lose!!! Well, yeah, we can. And probably will. I want an improvement on the 3 seats we won last time.
Mind telling me what I'm supporting?

:p

Am I an ESP MP? I JUST DON'T KNOW ANYMORE!

Mind telling me what I'm supporting?

:p
Yes. :cool:
Just wait until the next election and you'll see our manifesto. I'll try to find the manifesto thread from the last one.

Aha! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472431)

Am I an ESP MP? I JUST DON'T KNOW ANYMORE!
Yeah, you are. Erm...I'm one of the others, but I don't know who the third is...might be Neo-K.

The only one I remember is MOBRA.
Death to Surfacers!

Yes. :cool:
Just wait until the next election and you'll see our manifesto. I'll try to find the manifesto thread from the last one.

Aha! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472431)


Yeah, you are. Erm...I'm one of the others, but I don't know who the third is...might be Neo-K.
Ohhhh! I voted for ESP last time :)

Didn't catch the abreviation is all ;)

I'll gladly be a member!

Oh god.. ther huge party ad sigs...

Anyone remember the Birthday Party? Party?

I started it right after my own RL birthday party. :D

Of course. But they didn't make it onto the final election poll, so people were calling for boycotts, weren't they?

That is correct, more or less.

I'll be back?

I started it right after my own RL birthday party. :D



That is correct, more or less.

I'll be back?
Knew it was you :D

You will? *gets giddy*

err... well, i always believed the ideologies of the UDCP to be a long-term approach (up to 200 years, say) but that it was important to have a specific target to aim for. i also believed that in terms of every-day politics the UDCP is too radical - all communism is. people are not ready for it just now. i still believe the UDCP is a simply great set of ideals, but for today it is too far-fetched. i will continue to support the party as far as i can though (and will stay a regional member, admin, etc etc)

the new party will be less radical and very much more based on equality of opportunity rather than that of outcome (ie meritocracy rather than wage fixing), and still rather socialist in nature, but probably quite libertarian.
i'm not actually sure - am still figuring out things in my head and researching/reading things... busy at the mo but will get on it as soon as i have some spare time :)


Here lies Pure Metal's left-wing credentials. Gone but not forgotten. May they rest in pieces.

Knew it was you :D

You will? *gets giddy*

Well, that seals it. http://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/party/04.gifhttp://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/party/Pogo0.gif

Well, that seals it. http://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/party/04.gifhttp://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/party/Pogo0.gif
YES!

*parties*

Death to Surfacers!

Oh dear God, no.

Ohhhh! I voted for ESP last time :)

Didn't catch the abreviation is all ;)

I'll gladly be a member!
Woo! With you as part of our grand plan, nothing can stop us!

Hi I am actually a Conservative MP. When is the election?

Hi I am actually a Conservative MP. When is the election?

Never, I hope.

Never, I hope.

good for you:rolleyes:

And I can't remember what I did last time.

Aww, not this shit again.

*pointedly leaves thread*

Aww, not this shit again.

*pointedly leaves thread*

Worst.
Exit.
Ever.

Here lies Pure Metal's left-wing credentials. Gone but not forgotten. May they rest in pieces.

So at least one of the hordes of the damned was not quite so damned after all.

As for the meroitocracy PM - who decides what has merit and how? Those are the difficult questions you will have to answer.

Well, since the third election, I've been writing a party manifesto of my own. Basically, a blend of Austrian economics (not Rothbardian anarcho-capitalist, more like Hayek or Mises), Starship Troopers' meritocracy, and lots of Locke. It's about 25 pages long now according to Microsoft Word, and I'm starting to suspect that I have graphomania from the endless stream of words that I've placed in the document. Nonetheless, I'm not at the 100000 character limit yet, so it'll probably be short enough to put in one post. Probably not short enough for most people to subject themselves to reading the whole thing, though... :D