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Hehe... okay, for many this will be old knowledge, to some it will be new information, but believe it or not the current Padre, Pope Ratzinger, was once a member of the Hitler Youth.* So, I don't know... what does the world think of having a former Nazi as the Holiest person in the world?*

(* Scource: National Catholic Reporter)

We all make big mistakes in our youth especially if we are indocrinated. I don't think the Pope was actually a Nazi. What surprises me most about the Pope is that he recently asked, "How could the Lord allow the Holocaust to happen to the Jews." Since when did the Holocaust have anything to do with God?

Being a nazi back then wasnt bad, for the simple reason that you sorta had to be to live in German/Austrian soceity.

Beleving in nazism is bad...but there is no proof that this man did/does that and I have alot of faith in him being a man of God (even if I'm not Catholic) and not a man of hate.

That is basically the end of this thread.

He was just defending his nation, he wasn't a Nazi.

Ahem...I believe my grandfather was in the Hitler Youth as well. It wasn't like they gave you much choice - you just went after school. Sorta like compulsory boyscouts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI#Early_life_.281927.E2.80.931951.29
Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger joined the Hitler Youth as membership was legally required after December 1936.[2] (http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/dokumente/hjgesetz/index.html)
According to one of Ratzinger's biographers, the National Catholic Reporter correspondent John Allen, he was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, because he believed it was in conflict with their faith. In 1941 one of Ratzinger's cousins with Down's Syndrome was murdered by the Nazi regime. In 1943, when he was 16, Ratzinger was drafted with many of his classmates into the Luftwaffenhelfer (Air Force Auxiliary) programme. After his class was released from the Corps in September 1944, Ratzinger was put to work setting up anti-tank defences in the Hungarian border area of Austria in preparation for the expected Red Army offensive. He was eventually drafted into the German army at Munich to receive basic infantry training in the nearby town of Traunstein. His unit served at various posts around the city and was never sent to the front. Ratzinger was briefly interned in an Allied prisoner-of-war camp near Ulm and was repatriated on June 19, 1945. The family was reunited when his brother, Georg, returned after being repatriated from a prisoner-of-war camp in Italy.

This must be one of the silliest threads in a while. And I say that even though I am certainly not a fan of Ratzinger.

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As Neu Leonstein said Pope Benedict the XVI was required to join it and thus could not do anything about it. As well, of you look at it he had done much to redeem the things he was forced to do under the threat of a Nazi guns.

*sigh* Why does this keep getting dragged back up? I am so sick and tired of hearing about how the leader of my church used to be in and Nazi and blah blah blah.

Hitler- killed six million jews, and started the bloodiest war in modern history.


Pope- guess we will wait and find out

:p

I guess fate changes everything.

Chatolics are haritics, the Pope included. Now PP2 wasn't so bad, but this guy is.

http://img232.echo.cx/img232/5239/palpatineratzinger7xc.jpg

:eek:

http://img232.echo.cx/img232/5239/palpatineratzinger7xc.jpg

:eek:

He reminds me of Raiden from the Mortal Kombat video games... only without the hat...

In Nazi-Germany, you just HAD TO join the Hitler youth. Even if you were strongly liberal, communist....ok, no, if you would have been, you would have been arrested.

Hitler- killed six million jews, and started the bloodiest war in modern history.


Pope- guess we will wait and find out

:p
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"Everything is proceeding as I have forseen."

As to the OP - read what Neu Leonstein said.

Chatolics are haritics, the Pope included. Now PP2 wasn't so bad, but this guy is.

Well i'm glad i'm not a chatolic.

Catholisim = Nazism.

So I guess , all is well.

Hehe... okay, for many this will be old knowledge, to some it will be new information, but believe it or not the current Padre, Pope Ratzinger, was once a member of the Hitler Youth.* So, I don't know... what does the world think of having a former Nazi as the Holiest person in the world?*

(* Scource: National Catholic Reporter)
He also deserted the Wehrmacht when he was a little bit older.

You must remember the HJ was viewed by many Germans as something akin to the Scouting movement that existed in Anglophone countries. Even though it really wasn't.

If you're going to try to equate nazism with catholicism, you'd be better off pointing out that Hitler was raised catholic.

In a straight fight I think the Pope would probably win. The whole being dead is definitely a handicap for Hitler.

In Nazi-Germany, you just HAD TO join the Hitler youth. Even if you were strongly liberal, communist....ok, no, if you would have been, you would have been arrested.

That's not true. There were several brave young people who risked _everything_ in order to not be part of the evil Nazi state, the Eidelweis Pirates for example.

Granted, these people represent the top 1% of Human decency, but surely we can expect as much from the friggin' pope!?

Of course there were brave people, too. But unfortunatelly they were very rare - and outlawed.

OR,

The Pope WAS a Nazi, and is just covering it up out of embarassement...

Es posible.

Hehe... okay, for many this will be old knowledge, to some it will be new information, but believe it or not the current Padre, Pope Ratzinger, was once a member of the Hitler Youth.* So, I don't know... what does the world think of having a former Nazi as the Holiest person in the world?*

(* Scource: National Catholic Reporter)

We all have skeletons in our closets. When I was 6 I broke a window, the pope joined the hitler-youth.

Old news. Like, years-old news. Honestly.

The last Pope was a native of Poland when Hitler invaded, and the two of them were good pals before John Paul II died. Besides, for all you Christians, whatever happened to 'judge not lest ye be judged,' 'let he who is without sin throw the first stone,' and all that Jesusspeak?

In a straight fight I think the Pope would probably win. The whole being dead is definitely a handicap for Hitler.

You, sir, get bonus points, and a cookie.

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Besides, everybody knows Benedict XVI = Darth Sidious :D

Hehe... okay, for many this will be old knowledge, to some it will be new information, but believe it or not the current Padre, Pope Ratzinger, was once a member of the Hitler Youth.* So, I don't know... what does the world think of having a former Nazi as the Holiest person in the world?*

(* Scource: National Catholic Reporter)

I hate republicans and christians. This is just another example.