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I have tried to look on the internet for a pressure group/organisation that campaigns against pornography.

I have so far only come up with US based groups that are radical feminist and thus not open to participation from men and/or groups which are only anti pornography in some respects, in that they only want 'exploitative' pornography banned and they promote 'ethical' pornography (by which I mean that they consider some pornography to be good if both parties consent and the woman is treated with 'respect').

However, I want to support a campaign to make ALL forms of pornography illegal and to work on issues like helping those who were abused by the industry to get out of it and to bring in strong internet censorship initiatives.

Are there any groups that organise around this???

I appreciate any links and suggestions.

How would define pornography?

Incidentally, I completely oppose your efforts to limit free speech in this way. That "ethical" material you referred to doesn't harm anyone - certainly not anyone who isn't consenting to it - so I can't imagine why you think it's bad.

I can direct you to plenty of good porn, but anti porn pressure groups? Not my area.

No.

try this website
http://www.patrobertson.com/

No.
Well that pretty much sums up the rest of this thread. Can we start spamming now?

http://www.stopclownpornnow.org/about/index.html

Porn, IMHO, is bad.

Does that mean we should outlaw it?

Hell no. It's free speech, and it isn't our right to limit it. If both parties are consenting, it's fine.

I have tried to look on the internet for a pressure group/organisation that campaigns against pornography.

I have so far only come up with US based groups that are radical feminist and thus not open to participation from men and/or groups which are only anti pornography in some respects, in that they only want 'exploitative' pornography banned and they promote 'ethical' pornography (by which I mean that they consider some pornography to be good if both parties consent and the woman is treated with 'respect').

However, I want to support a campaign to make ALL forms of pornography illegal and to work on issues like helping those who were abused by the industry to get out of it and to bring in strong internet censorship initiatives.

Are there any groups that organise around this???

I appreciate any links and suggestions.

i think you are asking in the wrong place. i'd say try some nutjob christian sites but i don't think they'd have much concern for helping those abused by the industry, they just want to rain hellfire and brimstone on anyone showing a bare ankle regardless of whether they did it willingly. oh, and i hope you don't find the group you are looking for. no offence but i fully oppose a cause that aims to limit free speech even if there is some lipservice paid to victims of said free speech.

i think you are asking in the wrong place. i'd say try some nutjob christian sites but i don't think they'd have much concern for helping those abused by the industry, they just want to rain hellfire and brimstone on anyone showing a bare ankle regardless of whether they did it willingly. oh, and i hope you don't find the group you are looking for. no offence but i fully oppose a cause that aims to limit free speech even if there is some lipservice paid to victims of said free speech.

HUZZAH!!!!! Spot on!

i'd say try some nutjob christian sites but i don't think they'd have much concern for helping those abused by the industry, they just want to rain hellfire and brimstone on anyone showing a bare ankle regardless of whether they did it willingly.

I do not really want to offer my support to religious organisations, given I am a atheist and I generally detest all religions.

I oppose pornography (as well as sex and sexuality on a wider level) for it's socially destructive nature and the degeneracy it creates, turning a civilised being into a slave like animal, captive to base instincts and a perverse sense of pleasure.

no offence but i fully oppose a cause that aims to limit free speech even if there is some lipservice paid to victims of said free speech.

Like all good libertarians, you put the selfish desires or the peverted above the well being of those who are abused and degeraded by the so-called 'sex industry'.

Never mind if some young girl was brought to a wealthy country with the promise of a good job, only to be told that she had to degrade herself for money once she got to her new country.

Never mind that those at the bottom end of the social scale, those who are most deprived of a decent life, have sometimes no other choice but to prostitute themselves or 'act' to make ends meat to survive.

Never mind the fact that internet pornoraphy is responsible for child abuse.

Never mind anything it would seem.

As long as some degenerate pervert can have his 'right to free speech' and use an otherwise useful technological tool (the internet) to turn himself or herself into a animal and act in a way most non-human, then I suppose that is alright by your standards, if one can call them standards.

I do not really want to offer my support to religious organisations, given I am a atheist and I generally detest all religions.

I oppose pornography (as well as sex and sexuality on a wider level) for it's socially destructive nature and the degeneracy it creates, turning a civilised being into a slave like animal, captive to base instincts and a perverse sense of pleasure.



Like all good libertarians, you put the selfish desires or the peverted above the well being of those who are abused and degeraded by the so-called 'sex industry'.

Never mind if some young girl was brought to a wealthy country with the promise of a good job, only to be told that she had to degrade herself for money once she got to her new country.

Never mind that those at the bottom end of the social scale, those who are most deprived of a decent life, have sometimes no other choice but to prostitute themselves or 'act' to make ends meat to survive.

Never mind the fact that internet pornoraphy is responsible for child abuse.

Never mind anything it would seem.

As long as some degenerate pervert can have his 'right to free speech' and use an otherwise useful technological tool (the internet) to turn himself or herself into a animal and act in a way most non-human, then I suppose that is alright by your standards, if one can call them standards.
i am quite aware that there are abuses and i don't much like pornography as a whole. it is so hard to prove whether someone is doing it willingly and even if they are it might be because it is their only perceived option because of drug addiction or whatever. but banning something like pornography outright is not the answer. that would just send it underground where the abuses continue and become even more difficult to track down and prosecute.

i would like to know where you get the idea that internet pornography is responsible for child abuse. i don't think you can really back that up with anything.

and as for this I oppose pornography (as well as sex and sexuality on a wider level) for it's socially destructive nature and the degeneracy it creates, turning a civilised being into a slave like animal, captive to base instincts and a perverse sense of pleasure.
these seem to be the words of someone who's not getting any and is a bit bitter about it. :p

I do not really want to offer my support to religious organisations, given I am a atheist and I generally detest all religions.[B]
I oppose pornography (as well as sex and sexuality on a wider level) for it's socially destructive nature and the degeneracy it creates, turning a civilised being into a slave like animal, captive to base instincts and a perverse sense of pleasure.




Never mind the fact that internet pornoraphy is responsible for child abuse.





So you oppose reproduction ?

And, where did you get the second part from?

these seem to be the words of someone who's not getting any and is a bit bitter about it. :p

..or a troll. If he was genuine, he'd have actually tried to contact the radical feminist groups, so he'd know that most if them completely agree and think that the concept of porn is abusive and awful.

these seem to be the words of someone who's not getting any and is a bit bitter about it.

Haha. Prehaps you can now apply for the role of a scriptwriter at the Comedy Channel.

My path of deep celibacy is of my own choosing, not due to circumstance. Being gay, I can get sex VERY easily, as two men are able to have sexual intercourse on a much faster basis with much less hassle, hence the correct stereotype of gay life being all about sex and not much else.

I used to have a very active sex life, just I now, for philosohpical reasons and other reasons besides, no longer wish to be a sexual being anymore.

And futhermore, I can tell you life is so much better without it.

There is a whole new dimension to life out there, but you and others miss out, for you don't think as free beings but as slaves to a biological alarm clock.

..or a troll. If he was genuine, he'd have actually tried to contact the radical feminist groups, so he'd know that most if them completely agree and think that the concept of porn is abusive and awful.
yeh, probably.

to kravania: if you are actually serious try this book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1841420417/qid=1151022807/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9193615-6927309?s=books&v=glance&n=283155). it's written by a male feminist and deals a lot with pornography. i found it very interesting for what else it deals with but i think you should read it anyway.

Being gay, I can get sex VERY easily, as two men are able to have sexual intercourse on a much faster basis with much less hassle, hence the correct stereotype of gay life being all about sex and not much else.
also, that's bollocks. it's only like that if you want it to be, just like heterosexual life.

I oppose pornography (as well as sex and sexuality on a wider level) for it's socially destructive nature and the degeneracy it creates, turning a civilised being into a slave like animal, captive to base instincts and a perverse sense of pleasure.

How can that be healthy? Sex is just sex. What's the big deal? I think what is "perverse" here is you see such a basic human need as degenerative. I suspect that you, yourself have some very personal knowledge of the sex industry. Are you an alumnus? A retiree? A blond who thought she was hired for the secretarial pool?

Never mind the fact that internet pornoraphy is responsible for child abuse.

Child abuse is as old as humanity. I know you know that.

As long as some degenerate pervert can have his 'right to free speech' and use an otherwise useful technological tool (the internet) to turn himself or herself into a animal and act in a way most non-human, then I suppose that is alright by your standards, if one can call them standards.

What is non-human about sex? And you do realize that humans are, by definition, animals, mammals to be exact, right? I find your attitude toward sex to be more disconcerting than pornography, and I find the thought that you might be passing this disgust on to your children, and that they will suffer sexual dysfunction in their relationships because of it, more abhorant than the thought that my own children might happen upon a porn site.

I suggest a good family councelor. You really have some stuff to work through.

Haha. Prehaps you can now apply for the role of a scriptwriter at the Comedy Channel.

My path of deep celibacy is of my own choosing, not due to circumstance. Being gay, I can get sex VERY easily, as two men are able to have sexual intercourse on a much faster basis with much less hassle, hence the correct stereotype of gay life being all about sex and not much else.

I used to have a very active sex life, just I now, for philosohpical reasons and other reasons besides, no longer wish to be a sexual being anymore.

And futhermore, I can tell you life is so much better without it.

There is a whole new dimension to life out there, but you and others miss out, for you don't think as free beings but as slaves to a biological alarm clock.

You castrated yourself, didn't you. Wow. Talk about perverse....

Haha. Prehaps you can now apply for the role of a scriptwriter at the Comedy Channel.

My path of deep celibacy is of my own choosing, not due to circumstance. Being gay, I can get sex VERY easily, as two men are able to have sexual intercourse on a much faster basis with much less hassle, hence the correct stereotype of gay life being all about sex and not much else.

I used to have a very active sex life, just I now, for philosohpical reasons and other reasons besides, no longer wish to be a sexual being anymore.

And futhermore, I can tell you life is so much better without it.

There is a whole new dimension to life out there, but you and others miss out, for you don't think as free beings but as slaves to a biological alarm clock.


So because you dont want any, other people shouldnt see any.

My path of deep celibacy is of my own choosing, not due to circumstance. Being gay, I can get sex VERY easily, as two men are able to have sexual intercourse on a much faster basis with much less hassle, hence the correct stereotype of gay life being all about sex and not much else.

No, two men have a harder time having sex than other pairings. It'd go into detail, but I doubt it'd be allowed.

Haha. Prehaps you can now apply for the role of a scriptwriter at the Comedy Channel.

My path of deep celibacy is of my own choosing, not due to circumstance. Being gay, I can get sex VERY easily, as two men are able to have sexual intercourse on a much faster basis with much less hassle, hence the correct stereotype of gay life being all about sex and not much else.

I used to have a very active sex life, just I now, for philosohpical reasons and other reasons besides, no longer wish to be a sexual being anymore.

And futhermore, I can tell you life is so much better without it.

There is a whole new dimension to life out there, but you and others miss out, for you don't think as free beings but as slaves to a biological alarm clock.

God gave us sex; I say that we use it! :)

Whoah...Someone's got some major issues they towards sex and sexuality they need to work through.

And I can't see how denying yourself the pleasure of intimacy with someone you care about (and who cares for you) and completely divorcing yourself from some of the things that make life enjoyable and meaningful is the correct way to go about it.

Whoah...Someone's got some major issues they towards sex and sexuality they need to work through.

And I can't see how denying yourself the pleasure of intimacy with someone you care about (and who cares for you) and completely divorcing yourself from some of the things that make life enjoyable and meaningful is the correct way to go about it.

I don't object to his opinion. I object to his desire to force it upon other people.

i recommend that you start with the webpage of the office of the US attorney general alberto gonzales. stopping porn is one of his mandates.

im not goingto be bothered to look, thats you job, but if you dont find some suggestions there, i would email his office, explain your interests and ask for recommendation of national organizations or ones in your area.

i dont think there ARE any anti-porn groups that arent either feminist (most of those will welcome you, a few wont) or religious. you can probably find a religion driven group that you can fit in with even if you dont agree with their religion.

Really the wrong forum to come to with this topic.....

This is a really bad topic; and anyone who whould propose such trite issues should be publicly drawn in quarter.

Gotta say, I know a couple of people in the adult entertainment business who WOULD be victimized if you managed to ban porn. They would then lose the quite comfortable living that they enjoy, and possibly be forced to do something REALLY unpleasant and icky, like go to law school.

And seriously, I think the OP does need to speak to a psychiatrist. Sex is a part of life. Even if you choose not to participate (which is fine), your attitude about it is very unhealthy.

You might also want to spend some time thinking about why you feel the need to keep others away from it? What they do does not affect you. So why not just live your life and let others live theirs? If you are offended by pornography, don't look at it.

ban Porno thats ebul :eek: Humans need sex to survive otherwise we're gone kaput, finite!!!

I can't believe how disrespectful you are to this guys opinion. There is nothing wrong with objecting to pornography, I can see where he is coming from. I do not think you should ban pornography, but it is becoming a huge problem on the internet when it gets forced down your throat, especially when you find it offensive. Imagine a child typing girl, or hot or something like that in google, i wouldn't be surprised if he unwillingly comes across pornography, or what about people who get offended, they don't want to go on to a site and see that it is full up of advertisements to porn with pornography usually on them. There is so much junk, when you click on a link that says one thing it then immediatly sends you to a porn site, this is especially commen in emails. I do think the internet should be cleaned up a bit, 60% of it is porn. But, you should not directly ban porn sites of course, but make sure it is not forced down your throat unwillingly.

There is nothing wrong with objecting to pornography

Yes, yes there is.

Yes, yes there is.

No there isn't, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

No there isn't, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Of course they are. That includes me. Thus, there are tonnes of things wrong with objecting to pornography.

Of course they are. That includes me. Thus, there are tonnes of things wrong with objecting to pornography.

There is nothing wrong with it, you just disagree with him, thats fine. However you shouldn't treet him as if there is something wrong with him personally.

There is nothing wrong with it, you just disagree with him, thats fine.

There are tonnes of things wrong with it.

However you shouldn't treet him as if there is something wrong with him personally.

Have you read his posts? There is something very wrong with this person, indeed, but that was not what I was commenting on.

Moron! What is wrong with pornography? An affront to your morals? Shame about the majority who don't overly object to it really.

I do not really want to offer my support to religious organisations, given I am a atheist and I generally detest all religions.


I hope you realize that people that follow the atheist ways are suppose to respect other religions, not hate them. It's understandable to not like a religion for a reason or another but to say that you detest them is quite extreme.

I hope you realize that people that follow the atheist ways are suppose to respect other religions

Actually, no. And you write "other religion" as if atheism were one, like bald were a hair colour.