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I found this on Andrew Sullivan's blog, and thought some people might find it amusing. . .

http://www.people.virginia.edu/%7Ejac3he/GiveUpQuiz/hitlercoulterquiz.html

I got 11 right.

13. Coulter's vocabulary is inferior.

The less I know, the better.

Heh. I got 13 correct.

I agree. Coulter's vocabulary IS inferior.

14.

Hitler had a better vocabulary.

8 Never knew somone could hate liberals more then me. And about her vocabulary, I'm no literary genius, but, for a person who's in the publics eye, you'd think she could do better.

I got 11 right.

I think Hitler was referring to the classic definition of the word liberal, as in free-market capitalist.

its easy

Hitler has good vocab, Coulter dosent

(I got 12)

I got 11 right.

So did I. :eek:

I think Hitler was referring to the classic definition of the word liberal, as in free-market capitalist.

"Here the liberal's procedure is as follows: He approaches the worker, simulates pity with his fate, or even indignation at his lot of misery and poverty, thus gaining his confidence...With infinite shrewdness he fans the need for social justice, somehow slumbering in every American man, into hatred against those who have been better favored by fortune..."

"As long as millions of the bourgeoisie still piously worship their liberal democratic press every morning, it very ill becomes these gentlemen to make jokes about the stupidity of the 'comrade' who, in the last analysis, only swallows down the same garbage, though in a different form. In both cases the manufacturer is one and the same liberal."

10/14 correct. If it's using big words, tis probably Hitler. That was my guiding star.

"Here the liberal's procedure is as follows: He approaches the worker, simulates pity with his fate, or even indignation at his lot of misery and poverty, thus gaining his confidence...With infinite shrewdness he fans the need for social justice, somehow slumbering in every American man, into hatred against those who have been better favored by fortune..."

"As long as millions of the bourgeoisie still piously worship their liberal democratic press every morning, it very ill becomes these gentlemen to make jokes about the stupidity of the 'comrade' who, in the last analysis, only swallows down the same garbage, though in a different form. In both cases the manufacturer is one and the same liberal."

Those Hitler quotes make Hitler seem like a modern-day progressive, like everyone who is educated, including myself, but History has shown that Hitler was a far right, like Ann Coulter. I'm confused now.

Those Hitler quotes make Hitler seem like a modern-day progressive, like everyone who is educated, including myself, but History has shown that Hitler was a far right, like Ann Coulter. I'm confused now.

No, they make him look like the ultra-reactionary he was; opposed both to liberal socialism and liberal capitalism.

I was going to just post this:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/81/905/320/coulter_Nazi.jpg

...but then I realized that in all seriousness, her self-parody (ie. whenever she opens her mouth or publishes something) does a better job than any photoshopper could ever do.

No, they make him look like the ultra-reactionary he was; opposed both to liberal socialism and liberal capitalism.

In Hitler's time, liberal, particularly in the way Hitler is using it, exclusively meant laissez-faire capitalist. So the idea of liberal socialist makes no sense. Hitler is talking about many of the same things that Marx talked about.

I think Coulter is a laissez-faire capitalist, but I don't know many of the details of politics. All I know is my teacher said that republicans are anti-gay, so they are like Hitler. Which makes this whole thing confusing to me.

In Hitler's time, liberal, particularly in the way Hitler is using it, exclusively meant laissez-faire capitalist. So the idea of liberal socialist makes no sense. Hitler is talking about many of the same things that Marx talked about.

Except the "different form" of "garbage" he refers to is Marxist theory, perhaps with the revisions of the German Social Democrats of the period.

Liberalism is a good deal more than "laissez-faire capitalism"; it is an ideology based on certain conceptions of human equality and freedom, generally including the advocacy of some notion of limited government and democracy.

Except the "different form" of "garbage" he refers to is Marxist theory, perhaps with the revisions of the German Social Democrats of the period.

Liberalism is a good deal more than "laissez-faire capitalism"; it is an ideology based on certain conceptions of human equality and freedom, generally including the advocacy of some notion of limited government and democracy.

I don't mean to sound fundy here, but I believe the notion of equality under traditional liberalism is equality under God, not the equality as it is defined in progressivism or socialism.

Why does it sound like Hitler is a progressive, when we are always told in school that Hitler was just like the republicans in the United States?

I only got 7. And the thing that frightens me most is that some of those I got wrong were so hateful that I figured they had to be Hitler. In fact, they were Ann. :(

Those Hitler quotes make Hitler seem like a modern-day progressive, like everyone who is educated, including myself, but History has shown that Hitler was a far right, like Ann Coulter. I'm confused now.

Hitler was a german socialist...NAZI was like German socialist's party or something similar.

And look at where he got his ideas......Kant, Hegel, etc....

Anyone see the picture of the USA at top right? Nearly all Red ;)

I only got 7. And the thing that frightens me most is that some of those I got wrong were so hateful that I figured they had to be Hitler. In fact, they were Ann. :(

I feel so bad with you Grindylow, why is Ann Coulter even alive. Without her, the government would be taking care of people and providing clean water, and helping people all across the world.:(

We are the richest country in the world, yet we don't even give food to hungry people. We should start to look at the poor countries and adopt their policies so that we can use our richness to help them.:(

Anyone see the picture of the USA at top right? Nearly all Red ;)

Um, yeah, except most of the people of the US live in the blue. :eek: And, even adjusting for electoral votes, not pure popular vote, the cartogram isn't close to as overwhelmingly red.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statecartcollege.png

In Hitler's time, liberal, particularly in the way Hitler is using it, exclusively meant laissez-faire capitalist. So the idea of liberal socialist makes no sense. Hitler is talking about many of the same things that Marx talked about.

I think Coulter is a laissez-faire capitalist, but I don't know many of the details of politics. All I know is my teacher said that republicans are anti-gay, so they are like Hitler. Which makes this whole thing confusing to me.

What about anti-gay (makes it sound harsher than it is, howabou un-gay?) jewish republicans?

:eek:

Um, yeah, except most of the people of the US live in the blue. :eek:

Did we have smurfs as founding fathers?

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10, although i have a feeling some of it was made up.

7

Different era, same shit.

Did we have smurfs as founding fathers?

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:confused:

Um, yeah, except most of the people of the US live in the blue. :eek: And, even adjusting for electoral votes, not pure popular vote, the cartogram isn't close to as overwhelmingly red.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statecartcollege.png


Actually, most of us live in the purple.

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/

Perfect score.

It was pretty easy to tell which statements had been made over 60 years ago and translated from German.

Hitler was a german socialist...NAZI was like German socialist's party or something similar.

And look at where he got his ideas......Kant, Hegel, etc....

Anyone see the picture of the USA at top right? Nearly all Red ;)

Economically Hitler was a pretty strict Keynesian. Modern conserrvatives hate Keynes. They're much more likely to be lead by Hayek and Friedman.

7

Different era, same shit.

:eek: WangWee, do you think Coulter will become the next Hitler?

I'm scared!

:eek: WangWee, do you think Coulter will become the next Hitler?

I'm scared!

She has a bigger audience and more followers than Hitler did. Even if just a third of Americans are buying into the imperialist bullshit she's still got way more followers than Hitler had.

Actually, most of us live in the purple.

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/

I was trying to make a point, that the map on the quiz site is a bit disingenous. Most of the red states have very small populations, and most of the blue states have large populations. That map makes it look like most American citizens are Republican.

This is that "purple".
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/countycartlinear.png

I found this on Andrew Sullivan's blog, and thought some people might find it amusing. . .

http://www.people.virginia.edu/%7Ejac3he/GiveUpQuiz/hitlercoulterquiz.html

I got 11 right.
11 as well. It's kinda easy when they refer to America...

6. I thought it was one of those internet trick things where they all end up being Coulter.

Now I feel stupid.

Why does it sound like Hitler is a progressive,

I don't see how he sounds like a progressive. He's attacking liberalism from a conservative position, not a leftist one.

when we are always told in school that Hitler was just like the republicans in the United States?

They're not (though there are certain resemblances), and I think that if any school did teach that, they would quickly meet immense criticism.

Democrats also share some characteristics with Hitler.

Like opposition to private gun ownership, for example.

Democrats also share some characteristics with Hitler.

Like opposition to private gun ownership, for example.

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html

That link points out that a quote commonly attributed to Hitler on the issue of gun control is falsely attributed.

That's completely beside the point.

The Nazis tightened gun control in 1938 with the Waffengesetz Weapons Law. I don't particularly care what Hitler did or did not say on the issue - he passed the freaking law.

Hitler has a much more expansive vocabulary...


I only got nine right :(

Hitler was a german socialist...NAZI was like German socialist's party or something similar.

He CLAIMED to be a socialist. On a related note, West Germany CLAIMED to be a Democratic Republic. See what I'm getting at?

I got 12 right - and as has already been mentioned, that scheming bitch Coulter isn't nearly as well spoken as that rat-bastard Hitler.

I got 10. It's a pretty funny test.

9. Dammit, I always suck at these.

i got ten. did she really say all those things? is she retarded?

Never read Coulter in my life, got a 10. I picked based on language, but I thought some of those quotes were too demagogue-like to be from a pundit. Guess I underestimated Coulter.

Democrats also share some characteristics with Hitler.

Like opposition to private gun ownership, for example.

False generalization, wrong thread.

i got ten. did she really say all those things? is she retarded?

No - she's just a professional troll.

Anyone see the picture of the USA at top right? Nearly all Red ;)
Traditionally, red = communist. I've always enjoyed that little irony.

I got 11 right. Some of the more formally pretentious quotes I thought were Hitler's were really Coulter's. Maybe she was immitating him.

The Nazis tightened gun control in 1938 with the Waffengesetz Weapons Law. I don't particularly care what Hitler did or did not say on the issue - he passed the freaking law.
No, the Nazis issued that law, yes, but it did not tighten control, it relaxed it from a previous law that was passed before Hitler was an issue.

Have a look at this text there, and disregard whatever bias the host site my have. The article tells the truth:
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/harcourt_nazigun.html
...Let's start with the facts. The passage of gun-registration laws in Germany during the first part of the 20th century is somewhat complicated. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, the Weimar Republic passed very strict gun-control laws in an attempt both to stabilize the country and to comply with the Versailles Treaty of 1919, which imposed severe gun restrictions on German citizens. But even before the treaty was signed, the Reichstag enacted legislation prohibiting gun possession-in fact, requiring the surrender of all guns to the government.

The earlier Reichstag law remained in effect until April 12, 1928, when the German parliament enacted the Law on Firearms and Ammunition, which relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm-licensing scheme. Some argue that the laws were enacted to prevent the sort of armed insurrection through which Hitler eventually came to power.

It helps to read the 1938 Nazi gun laws closely and compare them to the earlier 1928 Weimar gun legislation, as a straightforward exercise of statutory interpretation. The 1938 Nazi gun laws actually liberalized the Weimar Republic's gun-control measures regarding possession and carrying by making these restrictions applicable only to handguns, lowering the juvenile age from 20 to 18 and extending carrying permits from the previous one-year limit to three years.

The 1938 Nazi gun laws also specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. And about eight months later, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jews from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms. The Nazi regime implemented this prohibition by confiscating weapons from Jews and subsequently engaged in genocide of the Jewish population...

On a related note, West Germany CLAIMED to be a Democratic Republic.
:(
So it wasn't?