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I'll start this thread now, but I won't be posting in it very much, if at all, while the match is on. We sooooooooooo need this one!

And feck all if my neighbours aren't home and will hear me screaming at the television. Meh, they heard probably the worst they'll ever hear outta me on Saturday when we played Italy.

Ghana by one or perhaps a draw.

Go Ghana!!

Ghana by one or perhaps a draw.

Go Ghana!!

*thwap*

Silence, kid! :p

It doesn't really matter, because US or Ghana (I personally believed the Czechs are out), that team will get killed by Brazil.
Still support the US

We're playing a 5-4-1? WTF is that?!?

A defensive position. 5 defenders 4 midfielders and 1 striker...seems like the US team is worried

Officially, I'm saying US 2-1.

(Unofficially, I know we're going to get killed at least 3-1 by Ghana. Bah! :P)

A defensive position. 5 defenders 4 midfielders and 1 striker...seems like the US team is worried

I realise what it is. I coach football. *thwap*

It does seem that way, which boggles my mind. Ghana's top two scoring threats are out with two yellows. What the feck are we defending against? Plus, we've yet to score a goal on our own. How're we gonna score when we're all hanging back on defense?

5-0 for Ghana.

5-0 for Ghana.

gtfo

gtfo
Ghana is an excellent team. And the USians are not.

I realise what it is. I coach football. *thwap*

It does seem that way, which boggles my mind. Ghana's top two scoring threats are out with two yellows. What the feck are we defending against? Plus, we've yet to score a goal on our own. How're we gonna score when we're all hanging back on defense?

*thwap back* I didn't know that.....Anyway the USA should play something like a 4 4 2 or 4 3 3. Both plays give decent defence and a good offence.

*thwap back* I didn't know that.....Anyway the USA should play something like a 4 4 2 or 4 3 3. Both plays give decent defence and a good offence.

I'd rather see the 4-4-2. That'd give McBride some help up front but still get better control of midfield.

Okay, the formation's been changed since the initial announcement. We're playing a 4-5-1. I'd still rather see a 4-4-2, which is what Ghana's playing.

Are you really watching that match?

Italy - Czech is ten times more interesting from an objetive point of view...

They aren't even broadcasting the US match in the local TV around here, we all are watching the italians, too many people of italian descent around here, too few...people from the United States.

Are you really watching that match?

Italy - Czech is ten times more interesting from an objetive point of view...

They aren't even broadcasting the US match in the local TV around here, we all are watching the italians, too many people of italian descent around here, too few...people from the United States.

I'm from the US and live here. They're my team.

Okay, the formation's been changed since the initial announcement. We're playing a 4-5-1. I'd still rather see a 4-4-2, which is what Ghana's playing.

I believe that we are starting in a 4-5-1 because we are missing two key defenders for the match. However, it is likely that sometime during the match (if we aren't scoring) we will switch to a 4-4-2.

I turned on this match just to give it a try, God the rest of the planet must be retarded cause soccer is simply unwatchable. Thank GOD for TIVO and its STILL not interesting. At least in baseball when it gets slow you can tivo it to the interesting parts, men on base etc. THIS god awful sport there is nothing to tivo to. NOT ONE moment is any less boring then the next WTF? How the HELL can the world watch this utter crap with even 1/100th the enthusiasm that they clearly have. Ive seen Emergency Broadcast Warning Tests that were more interesting.

I believe that we are starting in a 4-5-1 because we are missing two key defenders for the match. However, it is likely that sometime during the match (if we aren't scoring) we will switch to a 4-4-2.

I'm hoping we see Johnson at some point.

I turned on this match just to give it a try, God the rest of the planet must be retarded cause soccer is simply unwatchable. Thank GOD for TIVO and its STILL not interesting. At least in baseball when it gets slow you can tivo it to the interesting parts, men on base etc. THIS god awful sport there is nothing to tivo to. NOT ONE moment is any less boring then the next WTF? How the HELL can the world watch this utter crap with even 1/100th the enthusiasm that they clearly have. Ive seen Emergency Broadcast Warning Tests that were more interesting.

gtfo & diaf

*BLEEEEP*ing goal for Ghana. :mad:

Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, we just suck at soccer. How embarrassing.

Go USA.:D
Go home that is.:p

We must score or obviously we are out, I didn't get the 5-4-1 atleast the 4-5-1 makes a bit more sense. Indeed their top scorers on Ghana had second yellows, due to our situation I'd likely go for a 4-4-2 and adjust it to a 4-5-1 if we score, and depending on the circumstances. If we try to imitate the Italian defence, I think we'll be sorry. We need to put the pressure on Ghana a bit too.

The US shall rise again! Wait, what?

Okay, I apologize to the rest of the world on behalf of the US. We suck at soccer, and we really don't have any excuse.

Go USA.:D
Go home that is.:p

Didn't I tell you to gtfo? :upyours:

Meh, the game just started. The US can score once...or twice...

But I think Ghana will win by 3-0 :p

Didn't I tell you to gtfo? :upyours:
:D And you thought I care what you say?

I'm just curious how the US manages to even qualify for the World Cup with a complete inability to finish.

Come on the USA!

*waves little flag I got from Bunker Hill around*

WOO! USA! USA! USA!

I'm just curious how the US manages to even qualify for the World Cup with a complete inability to finish.

It's been my general observation that we tend to play about one good game out of every three total. And this gets us the odd win or draw necessary to qualify. Now, I don't understand the FIFA rankings at all, but that's beside the point. There's also this issue that we still have an inferiority complex, so that amking the WC is a victory sufficient to satisfy the players... that's my theory.

I'm just curious how the US manages to even qualify for the World Cup with a complete inability to finish.
Extortion?

US 2-1

Then we get slaughtered by Brazil.

Extortion?

Could you possibly be more of a fucking troll?

I'm just curious how the US manages to even qualify for the World Cup with a complete inability to finish.

It's like the Special Olympics ... everyone qualifies, regardless of ability.

Hey i think i saw some paint drying on the US goal post. That was kinda interesting...

Could you possibly be more of a fucking troll?
The truth hurts doesn't it?:D

ESPN makes it sound like every US attack is a moral victory. Goals are what count, not chances, commentators... this is annoying.

ESPN makes it sound like every US attack is a moral victory. Goals are what count, not chances, commentators... this is annoying.

Don't watch ESPN. Never watch ESPN.

I'm watching it on webcast from the BBC. Much more informative.

GOOOOOOOOOOOAAL! US scores! gj Dempsey.

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Woo-hoo!

:( Shit.

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll lllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!! Woooooooooo!!!!

2-1

Heh

Onyweu is a moron. Meh. :(

Bullshit penalty kick call.

Bullshit penalty kick call.

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Common thats not a PK
If you call that a PK.. they have missed like 77 PK calls so far..

on the other hand our goal was Off-side. (but very close)

Common thats not a PK
If you call that a PK.. they have missed like 77 PK calls so far..

In the other hand our goal was Off-side.

Lay off the crack. It clearly kills brain cells.

And Italy are winning as well.

Bloody typical...wait, what's the American term for that?

Lay off the crack. It clearly kills brain cells.Its cholesterol-free crakc :p

Common thats not a PK
If you call that a PK.. they have missed like 77 PK calls so far..

on the other hand our goal was Off-side. (but very close)

No it wasn't... I'm looking at it on TiVo... the man with the ball was leading the play... not offsides.

Lay off the crack. It clearly kills brain cells.

He's actually right. Both goals were shitty

First off-side, and then a bad call of penalty

No it wasn't... I'm looking at it on TiVo... the man with the ball was leading the play... not offsides.so he made a back pass (passed backwards) ??

He's actually right. Both goals were shitty

First off-side, and then a bad call of penalty

As much as I'd like to agree with you, no, the US goal was nowhere near offside.

Why Soccer is retarded reason # 235

We are living in an age of communicating with Sattelites on MARS for christ sakes. Your going to tell me we cant find a way to update the TIME on a scoreboard 100 YARDS away so the fans ACTUALLY know how much time is ACTUALLY left in a half instead of sitting there with a thumb up your ass going...is it ending yet? Now? Soon? I mean COME ON the technology was availible in 1960 for christs sake.

Funny how whenever the US scores a goal, it's decried as "due to a bad call" or whatever.

Amusing.

Why Soccer is retarded reason # 235

We are living in an age of communicating with Sattelites on MARS for christ sakes. Your going to tell me we cant find a way to update the TIME on a scoreboard 100 YARDS away so the fans ACTUALLY know how much time is ACTUALLY left in a half instead of sitting there with a thumb up your ass going...is it ending yet? Now? Soon? I mean COME ON the technology was availible in 1960 for christs sake.

Again, gtfo, fucktard.

so he made a back pass (passed backwards) ??

No... Dempsey was in front of everyone, passed it forward to Beasley who was running full-speed... Beasley was in front of his defender, that's why you might have thought he was offsides. However, that does not matter because Dempsey was already ahead of the pack. In that situation, a team can never be offsides.

Funny how whenever the US scores a goal, it's decried as "due to a bad call" or whatever.

Amusing.
Whenever? You've only scored once in the whole tournament. How is that 'whenever'?

Whenever? You've only scored once in the whole tournament. How is that 'whenever'?

This is not the first WC we've been in, you know.

Bullshit penalty kick call.I have seen a lot of WC football.. (My dad has tapes for like the last 16 years)

and that PK call is horrible.. Only the Spain-Bolivia and Italy-Chile PK calls can top this one.. twice in 16 years!

Bullshit PK call. Does not quite describe it..
I was not mad at the Uruguay ref.. but this one an needs eye exam.

I am not bothered by who wins this game so my opinion is pretty unbiased.

Dempsey was behind Beasley when the ball was passed (this is clear on the replays) so no offside.

The penalty, however, was invented by the ref. Absolutely nothing there to give a free kick for.

Funny how whenever the US scores a goal, it's decried as "due to a bad call" or whatever.

Amusing.

Whenever they score a goal? C'mon, give the people some leeway, it's only happened once so far this World Cup ;)

I am not bothered by who wins this game so my opinion is pretty unbiased.

Dempsey was behind Beasley when the ball was passed (this is clear on the replays) so no offside.

The penalty, however, was invented by the ref. Absolutely nothing there to give a free kick for.

Precisely.

Whenever they score a goal? C'mon, give the people some leeway, it's only happened once so far this World Cup ;)

This WC, yes. I'm lookin' at the past, though. The one time we score so far, and it's a "bad penalty". I promise you every time we score, it will be because of some form of "bad call".

Wait for it ...

Whenever they score a goal? C'mon, give the people some leeway, it's only happened once so far this World Cup ;)

That's a good little troll... :rolleyes:

Dude, I'm NOT A TROLL... I'm from the US. I'm poking fun at my team, sheesh.

Bad decision by the referee, or...hey she's hot (tv coverage of the crowd :D)...erm...the Ghanian guy was just too freaking weak to stay on his feet.

How about it was a bit of both?

Too bad its 2-1 now...I don't think the U.S. will manage to comeback anymore. But i'm really cheering for you lads. Good luck. =]

Dude, I'm NOT A TROLL... I'm from the US. I'm poking fun at my team, sheesh.

Oh me too ... (note my Special Olympics remark)

No... Dempsey was in front of everyone, passed it forward to Beasley who was running full-speed... Beasley was in front of his defender, that's why you might have thought he was offsides. However, that does not matter because Dempsey was already ahead of the pack. In that situation, a team can never be offsides.

Um, wrong in so many ways.

1. Beasley passed to Dempsey - not the other way around.

2. Dempsey was behind Beasley when the ball was passed.

3. The position of the passing player with respect to the opposition has no bearing on the offside rule. All that matters is the position of the receiving player when the ball is passed with respect to a) the passer, b) the opposition and c) the half way line. If he is behind any of these three it is not offside. If he is in front of al three it is off side.

Too bad its 2-1 now...I don't think the U.S. will manage to comeback anymore. But i'm really cheering for you lads. Good luck. =]

I agree... and thanks!

Too bad its 2-1 now...I don't think the U.S. will manage to comeback anymore. But i'm really cheering for you lads. Good luck. =]
Their only hope is if they knock an equaliser in soon on. Well not their only hope but it would help.

Can you believe I can't even see this on TV even though the thing is held is the same fricking country where I live? Grrrr. They show the other game instead.

Well, maybe they show it on some obscure sports channel I don't have, but I don't think so.

I'd rather watch this than Czech Republic vs. Italy. Dang.

Dude, I'm NOT A TROLL... I'm from the US. I'm poking fun at my team, sheesh.

You are a troll. I know you're from the US. I saw your posts in another thread in which you told Aelosia to "get her panties out of a wad" and such. I called you out there, too. You're a troll, plain and simple. Now, please, diaf.

Ok, this might sound mad, but now Reyna's off the field substituted, the USA might do this.

There's no longer 10 men and 1 injured guy on the field, there's 11 guys who aren't playing with injuries now.

COME ON USA!

Can you believe I can't even see this on TV even though the thing is held is the same fricking country where I live? Grrrr. They show the other game instead.

Well, maybe they show it on some obscure sports channel I don't have, but I don't think so.

I'd rather watch this than Czechoslovakia vs. Italy. Dang.

It is not Czechoslovakia anymore...

Can you believe I can't even see this on TV even though the thing is held is the same fricking country where I live? Grrrr. They show the other game instead.

Well, maybe they show it on some obscure sports channel I don't have, but I don't think so.

I'd rather watch this than Czechoslovakia vs. Italy. Dang.

Even we get both of them...

Can you believe I can't even see this on TV even though the thing is held is the same fricking country where I live? Grrrr. They show the other game instead.

Well, maybe they show it on some obscure sports channel I don't have, but I don't think so.

I'd rather watch this than Czechoslovakia vs. Italy. Dang.
Can't seem to get it in Britain either, unless there's some channel I haven't tried. At the moment I'm watching the video on the BBC website but my speakers are buggered so i'm listening to the commentary on the radio. Unfortunalely they're about 30 seconds out of sync.

Don't put the ball out! They didn't do it when Reyna went down. Bad sportsmanship or not, keep playing.

It is not Czechoslovakia anymore...
I did it again! I can't believe this! I've actually done this before here and got slapped just as quickly as just now, by New Leonstein, IIRC.

Gah. Seriously. *trudges off to edit the stupidity our of that post*

Can't seem to get it in Britain either, unless there's some channel I haven't tried. At the moment I'm watching the video on the BBC website but my speakers are buggered so i'm listening to the commentary on the radio. Unfortunalely they're about 30 seconds out of sync.

UKTV G2 - Sky 111

OR

BBC1 - Press the red button and you can select what match you want to watch, for UKTV G2 has teh crappy commentary.

I promise you every time we score, it will be because of some form of "bad call".
Just be glad then you don't score that often.:D

Just be glad then you don't score that often.:D

Meh ... it's football .... no need to score that often. ;)

UKTV G2 - Sky 111

OR

BBC1 - Press the red button and you can select what match you want to watch, for UKTV G2 has teh crappy commentary.
Ah OK thanks. Only got freeview, but I forgot you could press red to change thefeed.

Ok, this might sound mad, but now Reyna's off the field substituted, the USA might do this.

There's no longer 10 men and 1 injured guy on the field, there's 11 guys who aren't playing with injuries now.

COME ON USA!

To succeed the USA need to move to a more attacking formation. I hope they come out in the second half playing a 3 - 5 - 2 and attack Ghana on the wings. That way they have a chance. (Not much, but more than they have playing 5 - 4 - 1 or 4 - 4 - 2) They could always do what England did agains T&T and go mad and play a 2 - 4 - 4, but I dont see Bruce Arena going fr that.

It is not Czechoslovakia anymore...

True, true. The announcers here keep saying Czechoslovakia, and I cringe everytime. That country hasn't existed for what -- 15 years?

Can't seem to get it in Britain either, unless there's some channel I haven't tried. At the moment I'm watching the video on the BBC website but my speakers are buggered so i'm listening to the commentary on the radio. Unfortunalely they're about 30 seconds out of sync.
Awesome. :p

Meh ... it's football .... no need to score that often. ;)
It is when your behind.

Meh ... it's football .... no need to score that often. ;)

Just match or beat your opponent :D Hey, your first goal could be in the 89th minute to win 1 - 0 and it'd be scoring often enough

True, true. The announcers here keep saying Czechoslovakia, and I cringe everytime. That country hasn't existed for what -- 15 years?

Like 7, I think...

Not for sure, although

Like 7, I think...

Not for sure, although

More than 7...I think the country split in two in 1990 or 91.

Like 7, I think...

Not for sure, although

I'm old. The years tend to blur together. ;)

FreeKick US, good call (dangerous play by Ghana)

Just match or beat your opponent :D Hey, your first goal could be in the 89th minute to win 1 - 0 and it'd be scoring often enough

Exactly!

The Czech Republic was founded on January 1, 1993. So 13 years.

Well, that was a bad corner.

Ghana are playing with 10 men, so you've got one more guy in the box, right, so you don't put the ball in there?

Riiiiiight. I've never liked corners that don't go into the box (first time) anyway.

The Czech Republic was founded on January 1, 1993. So 13 years.

So the senile old guy was pretty close. :p

The Czech Republic was founded on January 1, 1993. So 13 years.

I woulda been...6 then. What did I do aged 6? Nothing of note apparently.

Ghana by one, maybe two. I just want Ghana and the Czechs to win...

I woulda been...6 then. What did I do aged 6? Nothing of note apparently.

Cripes, I was at uni in '93.

Damn kids. :p

Cripes, I was at uni in '93.

Damn kids. :p

I was in my second year of compulsory education :D

And I only got out in 2005!

Ghana by one, maybe two. I just want Ghana and the Czechs to win...I have 2 TVs on.. Italy is looking lucky so far.. CR was playing awesome football.. untill the Zebra sent out a Czeck playa on the first half.

Eddie Johnson's in! Sweet!

Getting back to subject.

Eddie Johnson (KC Wizards) on for Cherundolo

Cripes, I was at uni in '93.


Hehe ... so was I! You can't be that old, then. :p

Cripes, I was at uni in '93.

Damn kids. :p

*cries, nodding* (*nods, crying*? Eh, either way, I nod and I cry.)

That Ghanaian got pushed in the back and he went down holding his ankle. Whassupwitdat?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5106006.stm

Football chant quiz at the BBC for those interested.

Off balance and twisted it I expect.

The US are not spilling enough of the opposition blood this time to get a result....

That Ghanaian got pushed in the back and he went down holding his ankle. Whassupwitdat?

Holding the ankle is the standard sign of "stop the game, I wanna get off!"

That Ghanaian got pushed in the back and he went down holding his ankle. Whassupwitdat?Its called FIFA melodramatics, the FIFA rules encourages this kind of acting performances.

I hate it too..

Holding the ankle is the standard sign of "stop the game, I wanna get off!"

Or...'Half an hour left...let's waste time!'

Also known as "Doing a Klinsmann", although the Italians are the true masters.

69" wrong off-side call against US.. IMO.

also.. on the other game there has been quite a few lucky-calls favoring Italy..

I thought I saw Chris Rock.

You are a troll. I know you're from the US. I saw your posts in another thread in which you told Aelosia to "get her panties out of a wad" and such. I called you out there, too. You're a troll, plain and simple. Now, please, diaf.

LOL, if you were American, you'd know telling someone their "panties are in a wad" is playful. And I'll stay here, thank you very much. And thank you, policeman of the discussion forum.

LOL, if you were American, you'd know telling someone their "panties are in a wad" is playful. And I'll stay here, thank you very much. And thank you, policeman of the discussion forum.

I am from the US. You're still a troll.

Also known as "Doing a Klinsmann", although the Italians are the true masters.
Doing a Klinsmann is a goal celebration.

*cries, nodding* (*nods, crying*? Eh, either way, I nod and I cry.)

I'd offer my shoulder, but I know you wouldn't take it. :p

I am from the US. You're still a troll.

:rolleyes: OK. I'm a troll. Even though I wasn't trying to anger anyone. Now please leave me alone.

Nah a Klinsmann is going flat on your face with arms outstretched on the edge of the penalty area with nobody within 20 yards of you

Nah a Klinsmann is going flat on your face with arms outstretched on the edge of the penalty area with nobody within 20 yards of you

Ha... nice one.

:rolleyes: OK. I'm a troll. Even though I wasn't trying to anger anyone. Now please leave me alone.

Nah, but stick around. You'll see I don't leave anyone alone. :p

How do Ghana not have at least one red by now, on double-yellows? :headbang:

Nah a Klinsmann is going flat on your face with arms outstretched on the edge of the penalty area with nobody within 20 yards of you


Whilst at Spurs he responded to claims about diving (fans of other teams called him the 'Submarine Commander' because of his alleged tendancy to "Dive! Dive! Dive!") when challenged, by creating a goal celebration of "diving" onto the pitch on his front. This goal celebration is known in England as "doing a Klinsmann".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Klinsmann

Both correct then. Ta for that.

Although I thought it was the "U-boat commander" since footy fans are so fond of Germany and our shared history in footy comps and er...other conflicts

The Germans sure do love that stretcher

Whilst at Spurs he responded to claims about diving (fans of other teams called him the 'Submarine Commander' because of his alleged tendancy to "Dive! Dive! Dive!") when challenged, by creating a goal celebration of "diving" onto the pitch on his front. This goal celebration is known in England as "doing a Klinsmann".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Klinsmann

I think most of us know that... they're just taking shots at Klinsmann :)

He said "took a swing and a miss."

I didn't know that my beloved baseball wasn't the only sport that had announcers say "swing and a miss."

ping pong deserves an oscar for this game.

ping pong deserves an oscar for this game.Methinks this match isn't going to enamour the Americans towards the beautiful game.

*sigh*... it's dead, Jim. Luckily, Ghana gets to take on Brazil in the second round, so we probably won't see too much more of them.

Ghana'll take on Brazil or Australia :-D

Well, my 2nd allegiance now switches from the USA over to Australia.

But at least you guys can gloat at Italians!

Well, that's it for us. Now I go back to rooting for Spain, which actually has half a chance and stuff. (EDIT: And the Aussies. I'm rooting for the Socceroos too.)

Although Ghana played a dirty game. If they had actually pulled a red we would have had a chance, but no.

How do Ghana not have at least one red by now, on double-yellows? :headbang:has to be 2 yellows on the same player.

Although Ghana played a dirty game. If they had actually pulled a red we would have had a chance, but no.the PK was BS..

But No.. Ghana was not dirty.

In USA vs Italy the ref was all too glad to throw reds, in this match the ref is scared to. And yet not too scared for a penalty kick. That wasn't even justifiabl. Whats going on?

Well, that's it for us. Now I go back to rooting for Spain, which actually has half a chance and stuff. (EDIT: And the Aussies. I'm rooting for the Socceroos too.)

Although Ghana played a dirty game. If they had actually pulled a red we would have had a chance, but no.

Ghana played a normal game, there was nothing deserving of a red card. The ref was trying to make up for his mistake by giving every possible fre kick he could to the USA in the second half.

The only players I saw playing anything like dirty were the USA players in the last ten minutes - just desperation to get the ball back whenever Ghana had it.

has to be 2 yellows on the same player.

I know, I know. It just seemd like with that many fouls, they would eventually accidentally get a second yellow ont he same guy. :p

But No.. it was not a dirty game.

Eh, you call that many fouls (30+) a clean game? Meh.

In USA vs Italy the ref was all too glad to throw reds, in this match the ref is scared to. And yet not too scared for a penalty kick. That wasn't even justifiabl. Whats going on?
It's a conspiracy.

The only players I saw playing anything like dirty were the USA players in the last ten minutes - just desperation to get the ball back whenever Ghana had it.

Yeah, that was uncalled for. But if it wasn't a dirty game... okay maybe that's not the best word for it. But all those fouls!

We played like ass, with the exception of the one goal we scored. I hate to admit it, but we deserved to lose.

We are the yankees
we are not afraid
You beat us tonight
Tomorrow we invade!

!@#$%^&*("*******

Well, at least the US can join in the old football tradition of blaiming it all on the ref...

the PK was BS..

But No.. Ghana was not dirty.
yah, ghananians taking their time getting up when they're slightly brushed? didn't see it, but the announcers i was listening to were talking all about it.

If that's normal, it's stupid.

Fouls:
Ghana 30 - 15 USA (incl 1 red)

On the other hand....

Italy 13 - 22 USA (incl 3 reds)

yah, ghananians taking their time getting up when they're slightly brushed? didn't see it, but the announcers i was listening to were talking all about it.

If that's normal, it's stupid.

Welcome to the world of international football. You'll find that the two (?) US players that actually play outside of the US will find nothing unusual about it.

Actually Reyna's quite good at it....

My opinion:

The red on Mastroeni in the Italy game was the worst call I've seen in this World Cup so far. I don't agree with anybody who says that ref called a good game and to back it up: not only is it true that he tied a record for most reds in any of the World Cup final matches but also that he had been suspended from the World Cup for "irregularity" concerning his job against USA of all teams.

The red on Eddie I believe was justifiable, and yet when people complain I hear that as their complaint. Eddie played a dirty game against Italy, wheras Matroeni only had one foul and the other tackle, in which he even got the ball.

The free kick that set up Italy's goal, which noone talks about, was also bad, as it was a foul awarded as a free kick after Italy's nice scene where the guy took dive without being touched.

This game today, USA didn't play well enough to win but the PK was terrible.

And certainly, by contrast this ref was shaking too much to give a red after last time where the ref handed out reds like they were tickets for his concert.

To EVEN further back my claims, look at the USA total red / yellows, exc Italy game and.... We had more cards in that than in the other 2 combined. So.... did the ref call bad game? Think its clear

After that game they said USA was a dirty team. Sure......

We are the yankees
we are not afraid
You beat us tonight
Tomorrow we invade!

Run along, troll. :rolleyes:

Run along, troll. :rolleyes:

Again, thank you police of the message boards.

The US played too defensively and didn't deserve to win. They just can never finish a good opportunity.

The USA was set up poorly for this match up. I was shocked they weren't more aggressive.

Welcome to the world of international football. You'll find that the two (?) US players that actually play outside of the US will find nothing unusual about it.

Actually Reyna's quite good at it....

Try 12 out of the 23 on the roster. That's 7 playing in England (1 for Man. U., 1 for Man. City but on loan to Everton, 1 for Leeds U., 2 for Fulham, and 2 for Reading), 4 in Germany (Hannover, 1860 Munich, Borussia Mönchengladbach, and Standard Liège), and 1 in the Metherlands (PSV Eindhoven).

Of particular note is Kasey Keller (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/174656_KELLER_Kasey.html) the keeper, of whom Romario once remarked: “That is the best performance by a goalkeeper I have ever seen in a match that I have played in.”

yah, ghananians taking their time getting up when they're slightly brushed? didn't see it, but the announcers i was listening to were talking all about it.

If that's normal, it's stupid.FIFA rules encourages all that BS..

All they need to do to stop that BS is to introduce the use of real-time.. Like in most other pro-sports.

Try 12 out of the 23 on the roster. That's 7 playing in England (1 for Man. U., 1 for Man. City but on loan to Everton, 1 for Leeds U., 2 for Fulham, and 2 for Reading), 4 in Germany (Hannover, 1860 Munich, Borussia Mönchengladbach, and Standard Liège), and 1 in the Netherlands (PSV Eindhoven).

Of particular note is Kasey Keller (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/174656_KELLER_Kasey.html) the keeper, of whom Romario once remarked: “That is the best performance by a goalkeeper I have ever seen in a match that I have played in.”


Not to mention McBride, who was named MVP for Fulham after this last campaign. Yeah, we don't know international football. We're a bunch of hacks.

Granted, we played like hacks today, but don't write us off so ignorantly.

Try 12 out of the 23 on the roster. That's 7 playing in England (1 for Man. U., 1 for Man. City but on loan to Everton, 1 for Leeds U., 2 for Fulham, and 2 for Reading),

Ta for the stats. Knew of two in the premiership. I wouldn't take much notice of the lower leagues tho which is why I missed em. And there's just too much going on across all the european leagues for me to keep up with. Thought Keller would turn up somewhere tho. He is useful.

However....Tim Howard "Plays for" Man U on a technicality. He has played 6 matches. All but one of those have been in cup matches where Man U clearly did not give a toss and put out a B team. The only premiership match he has played in....was as a substitute. So it would be more accurate to say he plays for Man U reserves.

Of particular note is Kasey Keller (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/174656_KELLER_Kasey.html) the keeper, of whom Romario once remarked: “That is the best performance by a goalkeeper I have ever seen in a match that I have played in.”

LOL Considering Romario as an authority on keepers is like considering Rumsfeld an authority on Buddhism.

Not to mention McBride, who was named MVP for Fulham after this last campaign. Yeah, we don't know international football. We're a bunch of hacks.

Granted, we played like hacks today, but don't write us off so ignorantly.

S'cuse me but there are as many Trinidad and Tobago players active in the premiership as there are US players. So americans are still a bit of a novelty and tend to stick out. I put the (?) after the two cos I had no idea other than the two at Fulham.

However, the point was that some of your countrymen appear to be surprised at how the game is played in terms of timewasting etc. From watching years of domestic, european and international matches I find nothing unusual about it. See the reference to Klinsmann earlier as a further example.

p.s. England have underperformed abysmally, but have got away with it so far.

S'cuse me but there are as many Trinidad and Tobago players active in the premiership as there are US players. So americans are still a bit of a novelty and tend to stick out. I put the (?) after the two cos I had no idea other than the two at Fulham.

I believe the point was who has international experience, not who's playing in the English Premiership. Your arrogance concerning your own league is touching but not impressive.

However, the point was that some of your countrymen appear to be surprised at how the game is played in terms of timewasting etc. From watching years of domestic, european and international matches I find nothing unusual about it. See the reference to Klinsmann earlier as a further example.

No, our manager seems to have been surprised by it, not our players.

p.s. England have underperformed abysmally, but have got away with it so far.

Yeah, they've gotten very lucky.

Ghana---!!!!!!

w00t!
USA out of the tournament. :)

Ghana---!!!!!!

Yeah...from Canada...

Were your guys even in it? Didn't think so.

I believe the point was who has international experience, not who's playing in the English Premiership. Your arrogance concerning your own league is touching but not impressive.


I think we should be talking about international experience at the top level instead

The US league is not exactly considered by the rest of the world to be....challenging. Take a look at the top qualifying teams. How many of them have players that play in the US? Now how many have players who play in or have played in the English Premiership.

I'm using the premiership as a comparison since its what I know, incidentally. There are more challenging leagues than the prem.

Players aspire to the Italian, Spanish and English leagues (16 of 23 in the argentine squad for example)

Premiership players are only attracted to the US league by huge salaries when they are about to retire

I hear people claiming the premiership is the best league in the world. Its not, but its not bad.

For the record, I don't think England have that great a team but at least they are used to playing against the best international players on a regular basis. If not domestically, then in European club tournaments.

w00t!
USA out of the tournament. :)
w00tw00t!!!:)

I think we should be talking about international experience at the top level instead

The US league is not exactly considered by the rest of the world to be....challenging. Take a look at the top qualifying teams. How many of them have players that play in the US? Now how many have players who play in or have played in the English Premiership.

I'm using the premiership as a comparison since its what I know, incidentally. There are more challenging leagues than the prem.

Players aspire to the Italian, Spanish and English leagues (16 of 23 in the argentine squad for example)

Premiership players are only attracted to the US league by huge salaries when they are about to retire

I hear people claiming the premiership is the best league in the world. Its not, but its not bad.

For the record, I don't think England have that great a team but at least they are used to playing against the best international players on a regular basis. If not domestically, then in European club tournaments.I agree..

these days the Top players in the world want to play in LaLiga..
Chelsea did outbid the Spanish and the Italians a few times.. but FA it is not a Galacticos League.

having said that.. England has a better team than Spain or Italy.

w00tw00t!!!:)

Yay! The evil invaders of Iraq are out! :rolleyes:

Yay! The evil invaders of Iraq are out! :rolleyes:
Oh, that has nothing to do with it for me. :)

Oh, that has nothing to do with it for me. :)

But I'm guessing it does for he/she/it...

!@#$%^&*("*******

Well, at least the US can join in the old football tradition of blaiming it all on the ref...

The red cards issued to the U.S. by Jorge Larrionda during the Italy-U.S. match were harsh and issued in error. The penalty kick given to Ghana was uncalled for. However, none of that makes a difference and doesn't rise to the level of "blaming it all on the ref" for the simply reason the U.S. didn't get the job done.

Even if the U.S. hadn't gotten the two reds in the Italy match, managing somehow to score AND if Ghana hadn't gotten the penalty kick and the game ended in a draw the U.S. still wouldn't have moved on, based on goal differential.

Therefore the calls made no difference.

You only get to complain about the refs if your team actually showed up to play and was robbed by the officiating. Our boys never showed up.

But I'm guessing it does for he/she/it...
No.

FIFA rules encourages all that BS..

All they need to do to stop that BS is to introduce the use of real-time.. Like in most other pro-sports.
I hope you do realize that it doesn't make any difference whether the clock is stopped for everyone to see or if it's only the 4th official stopping the clock on foulplays etc. and then adding that off-time onto the 45 minutes.
It is part of what makes football an interesting sport. You never really know 100% for sure when the game is really over. (And yet, it is made sure that you've played 2X 45min.).

Anyway, congratulations to Ghana, good to see an African country make it to the next round! If that isn't a football-fairytale come true I don't know what is :D

We are the yankees
we are not afraid
You beat us tonight
Tomorrow we invade!
ROFLMAO!

Anyways, good on Ghana. "Dirty Game"...well, whatever. Italy played dirty games for like a decade in the thirties, such is life. If a team has a physical advantage they will use it.
It took skill to beat the Czechs, which was what got them through. And seriously, do any of you think the US actually deserved to make it on after their performances in these matches?

The penalty was spurious, but Ghana's win was deserved. And now I think they're playing Brazil...

Holy Crap. These people are taking this almost as serious as I do:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5108170.stm
..."I think I'm going to die. I want to die. I'm ready to dieeee!" a young taxi driver shouted as he leapt out of his car, abandoned it in the middle of the road and ran in circles...

Anyway, congratulations to Ghana, good to see an African country make it to the next round! If that isn't a football-fairytale come true I don't know what is :D

How about Australia winning the Final? :D

How about Australia winning the Final? :D

To get to the final you have to get past the following teams (either by beating them, or by them being beaten by one of the others).

Argentina
Italy
Germany
Sweden
Mexico
Any one of France, Switzerland, South Korea
Any One of Ukraine, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia.

I think you may be a little too enthusiastic about qualifying second in a weak group. :rolleyes:

To get to the final you have to get past the following teams (either by beating them, or by them being beaten by one of the others).

Argentina
Italy
Germany
Sweden
Mexico
Any one of France, Switzerland, South Korea
Any One of Ukraine, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia.

I think you may be a little too enthusiastic about qualifying second in a weak group. :rolleyes:


Aww come on, give us our fun. Who knows what could happen on the day? Maybe Scwarzer will have one of his bloody awesome days (rare these days, but could still happen), maybe Viduka will score, maybe the ref will forget that he's doing soccer not rugby and allow every single tackle, push, hit, everything, and then suddenly remember and give red cards to every other player? Weird stuff happens.

The aussies have some excellent players...but not enough depth overall unfortunately.

But I might be biased....being a Middlesborough fan

No Schwarzer? WHAT????

To get to the final you have to get past the following teams (either by beating them, or by them being beaten by one of the others).

Argentina
Italy
Germany
Sweden
Mexico
Any one of France, Switzerland, South Korea
Any One of Ukraine, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia.

I think you may be a little too enthusiastic about qualifying second in a weak group. :rolleyes: To be fair, he did say it was a fairy-tale result, hardly sounds enthusiatic to me. Also, we finished second to frickin' BRAZIL, I mean that's not what I'd call a weak opponent.

I picked Ghana 2-1

US loses and requires a goal recount.

I hope you do realize that it doesn't make any difference whether the clock is stopped for everyone to see or if it's only the 4th official stopping the clock on foulplays etc. and then adding that off-time onto the 45 minutes.
It is part of what makes football an interesting sport. You never really know 100% for sure when the game is really over. (And yet, it is made sure that you've played 2X 45min.).



What in gods name makes that interesting? Why not make rulings on if a shot counts or not a secret too. Imagine the excitement of watching a game you dont know the time OR the score of. :rolleyes