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Most Admired UK Politician

Niploma
21-06-2006, 11:55
Who is your favourite UK politician? Is it there humour? Is it there politics? Is it their sex appeal...
Anarchic Conceptions
21-06-2006, 11:58
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Lunatic Goofballs
21-06-2006, 12:01
Winston Churchill: Proof that a drunken lout can make a good world leader. :)
Niploma
21-06-2006, 12:08
http://www.orangeneko.com/rik/pages/ns2.jpg

Ah, British political humour. Brilliant:)
Philosopy
21-06-2006, 12:10
Tony Benn. I don't think I've ever agreed with a single word he says, but you've got to admire the strength of his convictions and his gentle cynical wit.
Yootopia
21-06-2006, 12:15
Winston Churchill: Proof that a drunken lout can make a good world leader. :)
Churchill was a first-class wanker. A racist, alcoholic, rude twat who thankfully lost the election after the war.

For this poll - I would have voted for Ming Campbell, but he's too old, I'm afraid, and he's going a bit right-wing with the Lib Dems.

Whilst I might not like the Conservatives, Cameron is by far the best choice on that list. He's relatively young, and is trying to push the Conservatives to the left of Labour, which can only be a good thing.
Pure Metal
21-06-2006, 12:17
would have liked to have been able to vote for Charles Kennedy, but alas those wankers replaced him with Mingy :rolleyes:

so i voted Gordon Brown, but on reflection i wished i'd added in Tony Blair. much as he gets bad press these days and it seems almost fashionable to hate him, i do believe he has done good things for this country and has helped us tread-water after the political debacle of thatcher in the 80's. the country needed some stability after that, and thanks to Blair and Brown we have had that... may not be moving forward but its a damn-sight better than it could have been.
Niploma
21-06-2006, 12:17
Churchill was a first-class wanker. A racist, alcoholic, rude twat who thankfully lost the election after the war.

For this poll - I would have voted for Ming Campbell, but he's too old, I'm afraid, and he's going a bit right-wing with the Lib Dems.

Whilst I might not like the Conservatives, Cameron is by far the best choice on that list. He's relatively young, and is trying to push the Conservatives to the left of Labour, which can only be a good thing.

In the name of the NHS thank-god Churchill lost to Atlee. Internationally, Churchill could have done much better - Atlee was too soft on Stalin and help lead to crisis such as Berlin Blockade etc, etc. Churchill's mofo attitude wouldnt stand for crazy ass niggaz like Stalin.

Ahem.
Grizedaleland
21-06-2006, 12:18
BORIS FOR PM!
Kazcaper
21-06-2006, 12:21
Everyone on the list is a wanker in my opinion, but of the lot given, I'd choose Cameron. I think he's a bit of a smug ****, but I do enjoy his clashes with Blair in PMQs, and whether or not the Tories are shit, at least he's trying to do something with them.

I wish I'd ticked Boris as well; I find The Spectator supremely amusing. Plus I enjoy seeing him getting the pissed ripped out of him when he appears on HIGNFY. Not that those issues are much to do with politics, though.
Yootopia
21-06-2006, 12:21
In the name of the NHS thank-god Churchill lost to Atlee. Internationally, Churchill could have done much better - Atlee was too soft on Stalin and help lead to crisis such as Berlin Blockade etc, etc. Churchill's mofo attitude wouldnt stand for crazy ass niggaz like Stalin.

Ahem.
Indeed. The NHS ftw!

And the Berlin Blockade was a flashpoint that could have gone horribly wrong. It actually went alright, simply because we didn't say "we're going to A-bomb Moscow, mothafuckas!" we said "alright, let's fly our planes in, at a high cost, but peacefully", which is a much better way to sort that kind of problem out.
Anarchic Christians
21-06-2006, 12:22
Benjamin Disraeli
Pepe Dominguez
21-06-2006, 12:25
I went with the separatists. A little separatism keeps things interesting. :)
Niploma
21-06-2006, 12:25
Benjamin Disraeli

Nice to have someone with a refreshing view. Any reason? Just as hes Jewish?
Niploma
21-06-2006, 12:27
I went with the separatists. A little separatism keeps things interesting. :)

I chose Adams for one of my votes. Our Day Will Come, Unite Ireland!

:sniper:

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Wow. I'm disrespectful.
Pepe Dominguez
21-06-2006, 12:32
I chose Adams for one of my votes. Our Day Will Come, Unite Ireland!

:sniper:

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Wow. I'm disrespectful.

I'm all for it, personally.. especially if it involves catapults or trebuchets or longbowmen of some kind, and lots of face paint.. maybe get Mel Gibson in there some how.. :)
Harlesburg
21-06-2006, 12:34
Ireland isn't in the UK!;)
Winston Churchill: Proof that a drunken lout can make a good world leader.:)
Damn you!
Skinny87
21-06-2006, 12:36
Winston Churchill: Proof that a drunken lout can make a good world leader. :)

Heh. Actually, Churchill wasn't that much of a drinker. His personal secretary, Sir John Martin, recalled that in many Cabinet Meetings, a single glass of whisky would be watered down and last for the entire meeting; meetings that could stretch on for hours.

Churchill enjoyed his tipple, that can't be denied, but he wasn't an alchoholic in particular.
BogMarsh
21-06-2006, 12:36
Ming the Merciless :D
Pure Metal
21-06-2006, 12:41
BORIS FOR PM!
Boris for permament host of Have I Got News For You? at least :p
Compulsive Depression
21-06-2006, 12:41
Churchill enjoyed his tipple, that can't be denied, but he wasn't an alchoholic in particular.

Lady Astor, aghast at a party. "Mr. Churchill you're drunk!"
Mr. Churchill: "And you, Lady Astor, are ugly. As for my condition, it will pass by the morning. You, however, will still be ugly."

Just goes to show he couldn't've drank that much ;)

Boris Johnson is the best on the list, and I'd've ticked "Red" Ken Livingstone if he'd been on there as well. Neither of them seem smarmy, lying little bastards like Blair and co., from what I've heard in interviews.
Yootopia
21-06-2006, 12:45
Pepe Dominguez - you are bad and wrong. Tony Blair has killed Britain.
BogMarsh
21-06-2006, 12:47
Pepe Dominguez - you are bad and wrong. Tony Blair has killed Britain.

Come on, Yootopia, don't exagerate.
TB is an ass - but good old Britain is quite alive despite his antics.

*tosses you an apple*
*eats an apple hisself*
Anarchic Christians
21-06-2006, 12:51
Nice to have someone with a refreshing view. Any reason? Just as hes Jewish?

One-nation conservatism is probably the one ideaology I've ever found myself in real agreement with and he was one of it's biggest proponents. His actual specific policies I didn't like (protectionism...) but he was a principled individual who fought for his beliefs.

Plus he wasn't a terrible novelist :D

To be honest there are very few modern politicians (Tony Benn and Lord Denning* aside) who I have any real respect for as individuals so I picked a slighty random historical figure.

*Cookie to anyone who gets that :p
Skinny87
21-06-2006, 12:53
Lady Astor, aghast at a party. "Mr. Churchill you're drunk!"
Mr. Churchill: "And you, Lady Astor, are ugly. As for my condition, it will pass by the morning. You, however, will still be ugly."

Just goes to show he couldn't've drank that much ;)

Boris Johnson is the best on the list, and I'd've ticked "Red" Ken Livingstone if he'd been on there as well. Neither of them seem smarmy, lying little bastards like Blair and co., from what I've heard in interviews.

Amusing quote, although it was never proven completely that that was attributed to Churchill and Astor. I think I'll take the words of Fieldmarshal Alanbrooke and his Private Secretaries over an anecdote.
Rubiconic Crossings
21-06-2006, 12:53
Winston Churchill: Proof that a drunken lout can make a good world leader. :)

I was gonna say that LOL
Compulsive Depression
21-06-2006, 12:55
Amusing quote, although it was never proven completely that that was attributed to Churchill and Astor. I think I'll take the words of Fieldmarshal Alanbrooke and his Private Secretaries over an anecdote.
But surely, if he were truely drunk, he'd've found her attractive?
Beer goggles!
Pepe Dominguez
21-06-2006, 12:56
Pepe Dominguez - you are bad and wrong. Tony Blair has killed Britain.

Nah, Tony's been a chum. It'll be a shame to see him go. He's been a staunch ally and has taught us many things, including the fact that there are, apparently, a good number of people named "Tony" in England, which surprised the hell out of me, knowing only Italians with that name up until that point.. it's a mad, mad, world. :)
Niploma
21-06-2006, 13:25
who voted paisley?
Pepe Dominguez
21-06-2006, 13:28
who voted paisley?

Some ignorant jerk, probably. :mad:
BogMarsh
21-06-2006, 13:30
Some ignorant jerk, probably. :mad:

Or a joker... :fluffle:

I originally intended the Armed Republic of BogMarsh to be a Paisley-run Ulster. (Bogland)
Didn't work out since I have no taste for Fundamentalist politics.
Bostopia
21-06-2006, 13:31
Boris Johnson! Yet I'm biased, for I have had my photo taken with him and shook his hand.

Commence jealousy...now!
Niploma
21-06-2006, 13:31
Some ignorant jerk, probably. :mad:

Aye. Like I said, a United Ireland would be nice. NI should not be part of the UK. Unite Ireland so all counties are under one Govt control - the Govt. of Ahern.


Completely unworkable though:(

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EDIT: Oh, we may be no MORI or anything but each of the main party leaders are coming out equal.
Psychotic Mongooses
21-06-2006, 13:34
Aye. Like I said, a United Ireland would be nice. NI should not be part of the UK. Unite Ireland so all counties are under one Govt control - the Govt. of Ahern.


Uhh, yeah.
Harlesburg
21-06-2006, 13:35
who voted paisley?
Learn to make a proper poll and you would find out.;)
Pepe Dominguez
21-06-2006, 13:46
Aye. Like I said, a United Ireland would be nice. NI should not be part of the UK. Unite Ireland so all counties are under one Govt control - the Govt. of Ahern.


Exactly. I've always maintained the same thing, although I've long been in favor of allowing the Turks north of the buffer zone to maintain their local laws, to ease the integration process. If the South votes to integrate next time around, I'm all in favor of opening the border altogether in fact, in the interest of fairness.
New Burmesia
21-06-2006, 14:02
Aye. Like I said, a United Ireland would be nice. NI should not be part of the UK. Unite Ireland so all counties are under one Govt control - the Govt. of Ahern.


Completely unworkable though:(

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EDIT: Oh, we may be no MORI or anything but each of the main party leaders are coming out equal.

Unworkable, since more Northern Irish want to be a part of the UK than not. ;)

Best politician? Tony Benn (I'm biased, because I have met him), but out the list, I'd have to say Boris Johnson by a long way. He's simply cool.

EDIT: And Gordon Brown isn't Old Labour at all, he's just as pseudo-Tory as Bliar.
Harlesburg
21-06-2006, 14:03
WTF!
You made a proper poll.
Kazcaper
21-06-2006, 14:11
Unworkable, since more Northern Irish want to be a part of the UK than not. ;) Also, a lot of people in the Republic consider the North to be an economic blackspot and don't want unification. Personally, I'm pretty indifferent to the whole thing. I think it would be a hassle to change everything (currency, road signs, constituency boundaries etc), but beyond that have no real feeling one way or the other.

I despise Ian Paisley, but one thing I will say in his favour is that, even if he's a complete arsehole at the governmental level (and I agree that he is) he's a good constituency MP. Some of my family live in his constituency, and he's been extremely helpful to them, despite the fact that they are of a different religion to him. Shame that wouldn't extend to all his politics.
Ansuria
21-06-2006, 14:37
Most... Admired Politician?

I know what the words mean individually, but together I just can't fathom...
Shatov
21-06-2006, 14:59
I cannot stand any of them. Most of Britain's career politicians are so driven by the opinion of the tabloids that common sense does not even enter into any of their policies.
Niploma
21-06-2006, 15:03
I cannot stand any of them. Most of Britain's career politicians are so driven by the opinion of the tabloids that common sense does not even enter into any of their policies.


One thing the LibDems have exceeded at, along with the ol' Liberal party they evolved from, is the idea of making cannabis legal. Crime rates would go down. Police could deal with other crimes. Govt. taxes it and everyone wins. Apart from those slightly ill from it...

But thats common sense to me. Legalise it, Menzies!
Shatov
21-06-2006, 15:07
One thing the LibDems have exceeded at, along with the ol' Liberal party they evolved from, is the idea of making cannabis legal. Crime rates would go down. Police could deal with other crimes. Govt. taxes it and everyone wins. Apart from those slightly ill from it...

But thats common sense to me. Legalise it, Menzies!

The Lib Dems are probably the most admirable but only because they know they haven't got a hope in hell of winning an election and so they can effectively say what they want without fear of alienating the electorate. The best outcome the Lib Dems can hope for is a hung parliament whereby one of the major parties is forced to rely on them in order to obtain a majority.
Custardostan
21-06-2006, 16:02
BORIS FOR PM!

"Oh golly yes!"

I'd love to see the looks on the faces of the national/world leadership when that Old English Sheepdog of a guy starts dropping recondite classical allusions to make a simple point. He's about the only MP the average British voter has time for.

He ain't half so daft as he looks either. Classic British tactic: look vague and cuddly, play hardball and steal someones country before their realise. :cool:
Fartsniffage
21-06-2006, 16:13
Lembit Opik for the win.

Protecting Britain from falling asteroids since 1965!!
The Infinite Dunes
21-06-2006, 16:15
Ted Heath for the win! United in his distrust of all politicians - left, right or centre.
http://english.people.com.cn/200507/19/images/HEATH.jpg
Nag Ehgoeg
21-06-2006, 16:47
I havn't heard anything from Gordon Brown since I stopped reading Socialist Worker.