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Well, at least they're in the same general area, right?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/ChinaandJapan.jpg
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/tech/main1734030.shtml

American news has always been idiotic. This however is a new low.

[QUOTE=NERVUN]Well, at least they're in the same general area, right?

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Another example of the US-centrism that annoys the world.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8594/chinapan5lv.gif

Maybe its a joint effort

Well, at least they're in the same general area, right?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/ChinaandJapan.jpg
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/tech/main1734030.shtml

Nah, that's the Sun that the Japanese are trying to land upon! :eek: :rolleyes:

That is funny and sad at the same time. More than half of cartoons are from Japan, I guess CBS web moderators don't watch cartoons.

P.S. Hi I'm a newbie, not a n00b ;)

It's easy to tell the difference between Japan and China;

Run down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere. If they throw you in prison, you're in China. If they give you a game show, you're in Japan. :)

It's what CBS gets for employing someone who's Photoshop skills are on par with a five year olds.

It's easy to tell the difference between Japan and China;

Run down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere. If they throw you in prison, you're in China. If they give you a game show, you're in Japan. :)

LOL!

It's easy to tell the difference between Japan and China;

Run down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere. If they throw you in prison, you're in China. If they give you a game show, you're in Japan. :)

Wisdomous indeed

It's easy to tell the difference between Japan and China;

Run down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere. If they throw you in prison, you're in China. If they give you a game show, you're in Japan. :)


:D :D :D

It's easy to tell the difference between Japan and China;

Run down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere. If they throw you in prison, you're in China. If they give you a game show, you're in Japan. :)

What is it that gives me the feeling that you're speaking from experience?

there is a difference LOL

What is it that gives me the feeling that you're speaking from experience?

Experience running down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere?

Or experience doing so in China and Japan?

Well unfortunately I've never been to China or Japan. I do, however, make it a point to study international silliness and I consider myself well versed on the cultural reactions to naked ham-flinging wackos.

Just for future reference, however, I should point out that including my home country I have been naked in publc in four different nations. The U.S.A., France, Italy and Spain. *nod*

Well, coming from a network of professionally trained journalists, who are supposed to correct each other and keep things on a solid information base, they sure are FUCK UPS.

Not surprising coming from the same organization that vehemently accepted a Microsoft Word document as a "real" document from the 1960s.

It's easy to tell the difference between Japan and China;

Run down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere. If they throw you in prison, you're in China. If they give you a game show, you're in Japan. :)
ah.... sigged. :p

Err, right. China is this massive country while Japan is thin slither of Volcanic rock .. idiots.

They've managed to fix it. They changed the word China to 'gooks' thoughout the article.

Well, at least they're in the same general area, right?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/ChinaandJapan.jpg
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/tech/main1734030.shtml
Hahahahahaha!

They've managed to fix it. They changed the word China to 'gooks' thoughout the article.

They really fixed it now.

Editor's Note: A previous version of this story included a graphic of the Japanese flag instead of the Chinese flag. We regret the error.

Someone needs to change that to:

Editor's Note: A previous version of this story included a graphic of the Japanese flag instead of the Chinese flag. We admit that we're fucking stupid - after all, we couldn't tell that a common font in Microsoft Word didn't exist on typewriters in the 1960s even when someone told us.

Chinese, Japanese, what's the difference? They all look alike anyway! :D:D:D

Right, right, these news reporters need to learn to never make mistakes ever. Hey, why not just replace them with freaking NEWS ROBOTS?

I must say, the bad photoshop is by far a more pressing issue.

Right, right, these news reporters need to learn to never make mistakes ever. Hey, why not just replace them with freaking NEWS ROBOTS?

I must say, the bad photoshop is by far a more pressing issue.

It's not a matter of not making mistakes.

It's a matter of admitting that they are making them, and are not the high and mighty, all-certified, qualified, worship-me-because-I'm-a-fucking-journalist who can't admit I have a political axe to grind so I'll fake the fucking news.

It's not a matter of not making mistakes.

It's a matter of admitting that they are making them, and are not the high and mighty, all-certified, qualified, worship-me-because-I'm-a-fucking-journalist who can't admit I have a political axe to grind so I'll fake the fucking news.
And this coming from a man who uses conservative blogs in his arguments.

It was a funny mistake, CBS corrected and issued a retraction just like they did with the Bush memo. Funny, but your 'news' sources don't offer the same. So get off your high fucking horse.

It's easy to tell the difference between Japan and China;

Run down the street naked, shouting like a lunatic and throwing pieces of ham everywhere. If they throw you in prison, you're in China. If they give you a game show, you're in Japan. :)
something tells me that you know this through first hand experience...

something tells me that you know this through first hand experience...
Sadly though, given Hard Gay, I think if LG learned a bit of Japanese he would quickly become the latest hot guest in Japan. Hell, NHK would beat down his door to get him to make a quick apperance on Red vs White.

Sadly though, given Hard Gay, I think if LG learned a bit of Japanese he would quickly become the latest hot guest in Japan. Hell, NHK would beat down his door to get him to make a quick apperance on Red vs White.
they had some people from Hawaii in their New Year's People's Grand Prix...

man, if you could tape and send those to me....

I would be glad to reciprocate with anything you want from Hawaii.

Chinese, Japanese, what's the difference? They all look alike anyway! :D:D:D


Not funny. :mad:


I hate racist white people.

Chinese, Japanese, what's the difference? They all look alike anyway! :D:D:D
considering that "Memoirs of a Geisha" is a Japanese Story with Chinese actors/actresses... :rolleyes:

looks like most people can't tell the difference.

considering that "Memoirs of a Geisha" is a Japanese Story with Chinese actors/actresses... :rolleyes:

looks like most people can't tell the difference.



Correction, white people can't tell us apart.

Correction, white people can't tell us apart.
actually, people with very little actual contact with both nationalities have a hard time telling us apart.

Not funny. :mad:


I hate racist white people.

Grow a sense of humor.

Bastards.

actually, people with very little actual contact with both nationalities have a hard time telling us apart.



Most people I run into can tell I am Japanese. It's only whites that have confused me with being Chinese.

they had some people from Hawaii in their New Year's People's Grand Prix...

man, if you could tape and send those to me....

I would be glad to reciprocate with anything you want from Hawaii.
If I had a working VCR I would be glad to.

I don't know what's funnier, the fuck up with the Japanese flag, or that the PRC expects to get to the moon by 2024!

If I had a working VCR I would be glad to.
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I can probably send you one...

of course then i would require Anime also... :p

Correction, white people can't tell us apart.
Not always. 95% of the time I can tell a Japanese from a Chinese person. I run into difficulties with Japanese and Koreans though.

And yes, I am white.

Most people I run into can tell I am Japanese. It's only whites that have confused me with being Chinese.
most people say I'm Japanese and i accept that...

I only know two people who got me right...

I'm Okinawan

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I can probably send you one...

of course then i would require Anime also... :p
*LOL* You'd also have to send me a power converter. The only one I have in my house that ramps up to US 110 is currently in full use.

*LOL* You'd also have to send me a power converter. The only one I have in my house that ramps up to US 110 is currently in full use.
=.=

think I have one lying around... :D

If I find it, I'll TG you.

or would you just preferre the cash...

*Headdesk*

most people say I'm Japanese and i accept that...

I only know two people who got me right...

I'm Okinawan
Really? For full ones I always thought the nose, neck, and coloring gave it away.

Really? For full ones I always thought the nose, neck, and coloring gave it away.
I believe our facial structure also gives it away... then there is the hair...

Its not the fact that people assume what nationality you are based on looks, but the fact that CBS has gotten their geography wrong.

most people say I'm Japanese and i accept that...

I only know two people who got me right...

I'm Okinawan



What are you then?


One guy called me Chinese, I slapped him.

Its not the fact that people assume what nationality you are based on looks, but the fact that CBS has gotten their geography wrong.
A fact that has ammused a number of people in my town.

Oh, and pissed off my fiancee for a bit. But she was due a rant.

What are you then?


One guy called me Chinese, I slapped him.

Where/when did this happen? And what nationality/ethnicity was that guy who called you Chinese? (I'm just curious to know)

What are you then?


One guy called me Chinese, I slapped him.
Highlight what you quoted from me.

Technically I am Japanese... but we tend to be looked down upon by Japanese...

or was during my Grandfather's time.

A fact that has ammused a number of people in my town.

Oh, and pissed off my fiancee for a bit. But she was due a rant.
you should've jokingly told her that it was an admission that the Chinese couldn't do anything without Japan's help... ;)

Highlight what you quoted from me.

Technically I am Japanese... but we tend to be looked down upon by Japanese...

or was during my Grandfather's time.
Well, Koizumi seems to adore your fassion sense. Once more he's doned his favorite shirts for Cool Biz.

Aparently it's starting a small craze for them.

Highlight what you quoted from me.

Technically I am Japanese... but we tend to be looked down upon by Japanese...

or was during my Grandfather's time.


Are you Ryukyuan?

Where/when did this happen? And what nationality/ethnicity was that guy who called you Chinese? (I'm just curious to know)



About 4 years ago and he was white.

you should've jokingly told her that it was an admission that the Chinese couldn't do anything without Japan's help... ;)
I distrated her with the morphing flag on page one of this thread. She spent the next half an hour trying to understand how that was done.

Then I spent the next hour and a half explaining planetary orbits and why the sun casts shadows on the Moon.

I love her, she's curious about everything, but she isn't happy unless she understands what I am talking about.

Are you Ryukyuan?yep, but I would prefer to be called either Japanese, or Okinawan.

I distrated her with the morphing flag on page one of this thread. She spent the next half an hour trying to understand how that was done.

Then I spent the next hour and a half explaining planetary orbits and why the sun casts shadows on the Moon.

I love her, she's curious about everything, but she isn't happy unless she understands what I am talking about.sounds like a great lady. you're lucky.

yep, but I would prefer to be called either Japanese, or Okinawan.


I want to get rid of the Ryukyuan islands....Just saying.

I want to meet Hattori Hanzo in Okinawa. :)

sounds like a great lady. you're lucky.
I am indeed.

I'm also very sleepy from being up late explaining how the Earth is actually closer to the sun during winter in the northern half of the planet due to the tilt though. :D

I want to get rid of the Ryukyuan islands....Just saying.
Uh... why?

I want to get rid of the Ryukyuan islands....Just saying.
There are places and things that I might wanna get rid of... but it's those places that make me appreciate the areas and things that I love even more.

I am indeed.

I'm also very sleepy from being up late explaining how the Earth is actually closer to the sun during winter in the northern half of the planet due to the tilt though. :Dme thinks colleges would love her and her thirst for knowledge. ;)

Uh... why?



Ever heard of Hideki Tojo?

There are places and things that I might wanna get rid of... but it's those places that make me appreciate the areas and things that I love even more.


I have different reasons than you for wanting those places gone...or changed to an extreme degree.

Ever heard of Hideki Tojo?
Japan's leader during WWII. so...

this is getting interesting, BTW...

I have different reasons than you for wanting those places gone...or changed to an extreme degree.We are who we are.

Me thinks you have some problems with other Asian/Oriental countries.

Ever heard of Hideki Tojo?
Quite a bit, yes, but I admit to not being able to match Tojo and Okinawa.

me thinks colleges would love her and her thirst for knowledge. ;)
Yup, her advisor has more or less kidnapped her.

Quite a bit, yes, but I admit to not being able to match Tojo and Okinawa.


He was nationalist as am I.

Japan's leader during WWII. so...

this is getting interesting, BTW...

We are who we are.

Me thinks you have some problems with other Asian/Oriental countries.


I have a problem with non-asians. I can tolerate Koreans and Chinese...But not much beyond that.

He was nationalist as am I.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand?

Japan has historically claimed Okinawa back into the 16th century. Now it didn't actually DO anything till the Meiji Restoration, but it has had a profound influance upon that small kingdom.

So I'm still not connecting your point A to your point G.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand?

Japan has historically claimed Okinawa back into the 16th century. Now it didn't actually DO anything till the Meiji Restoration, but it has had a profound influance upon that small kingdom.

So I'm still not connecting your point A to your point G.I think I know what Empress is getting to... and while I hope I am wrong, I will let her explain.

I think I know what Empress is getting to... and while I hope I am wrong, I will let her explain.



I want to know what you think I am getting to.:)

I want to know what you think I am getting to.:)
nah, rather would wait for your explination.

nah, rather would wait for your explination.



I'll only give my explination if you tell what you are thinking.:)


Yes I am very obnoxious.:cool: I don't tend to be, this is just the way I am.

I'll only give my explination if you tell what you are thinking.:)


Yes I am very obnoxious.:cool: I don't tend to be, this is just the way I am.
*blink blink blink* When did we get to the 小学生 stage?

Well I've got to admit that I am curious what issues the Empress has with just about every nationality on earth...

I mean I understand why there might be issues with caucasians in general; US caucasians don't represent the world of white people, but I can see why that might lead up to some issues with white people in general.


But I honestly don't understand why/how native americans (as in Pueblo and Inca relatives) or polynesians could give you a fit.



Maybe there is some historical occurrence with Japan that I am not aware of? Last I checked it was China that got carved up not Japan in the late 19th and early 20th century. But I guess I could be missing some other reason for national/racial animosity?

NT

Well I've got to admit that I am curious what issues the Empress has with just about every nationality on earth...

I mean I understand why there might be issues with caucasians in general; US caucasians don't represent the world of white people, but I can see why that might lead up to some issues with white people in general.


But I honestly don't understand why/how native americans (as in Pueblo and Inca relatives) or polynesians could give you a fit.



Maybe there is some historical occurrence with Japan that I am not aware of? Last I checked it was China that got carved up not Japan in the late 19th and early 20th century. But I guess I could be missing some other reason for national/racial animosity?

NT


I do have a rather large hatred of america, I never supported Hiroshima and I resent the BS constitution signed after World War 2. But going into detail on that won't do me any good.

What are you then?


One guy called me Chinese, I slapped him.
so if you walked up to a frenchman, and called him swiss, or worse, german, he would have the right to slap you?

Or an Ethiopian vs. a Somali?

How about an indian vs. a pakistani? Serb vs. croat? You can tell the difference between every single ethnicity?

I've met full blooded japanese people who look exactly like their chinese friends, and they admit it. And yes, I, by and large, can tell the difference between Japanese, Korean, Thai, Chinese, Laos(ian?), vietnamese. And yes, I'm white.

so if you walked up to a frenchman, and called him swiss, or worse, german, he would have the right to slap you?

Or an Ethiopian vs. a Somali?

How about an indian vs. a pakistani? Serb vs. croat? You can tell the difference between every single ethnicity?

I've met full blooded japanese people who look exactly like their chinese friends, and they admit it. And yes, I, by and large, can tell the difference between Japanese, Korean, Thai, Chinese, Laos(ian?), vietnamese. And yes, I'm white.
The Empress seemingly has... issues.

Which we are still waiting for her to explain.

so if you walked up to a frenchman, and called him swiss, or worse, german, he would have the right to slap you?

Or an Ethiopian vs. a Somali?

How about an indian vs. a pakistani? Serb vs. croat? You can tell the difference between every single ethnicity?

I've met full blooded japanese people who look exactly like their chinese friends, and they admit it. And yes, I, by and large, can tell the difference between Japanese, Korean, Thai, Chinese, Laos(ian?), vietnamese. And yes, I'm white.



I don't assume what country people are from, its rude. Try calling a Cuban a mexican...May get you shot. Or maybe if you call a puerto Rican a mexican...one or the other.

The Empress seemingly has... issues.

Which we are still waiting for her to explain.
haha...I figured that out.

edit: the phrase "fetishized view" pops into head...

The Empress seemingly has... issues.

Which we are still waiting for her to explain.



I am a Japanese Nationalist who doesn't want non-japanese people in Japan. Sue me. I don't have to explain anything.

I don't assume what country people are from, its rude. Try calling a Cuban a mexican...May get you shot. Or maybe if you call a puerto Rican a mexican...one or the other.
Done it, going both ways. They corrected me. There would be absolutly zero excuse for them to have laid a finger on me.

However, if you can expect everyone to be able to tell the difference between someone who is Japanese, Korean, and Chinese, then it is perfectly fair for me to expect you to be able to tell the difference between every European ethnicity, or African, or what have you.

I am a Japanese Nationalist who doesn't want non-japanese people in Japan. Sue me. I don't have to explain anything.
Well, that explains why you want to kick out Okinawa.

Thankfully I know full well that the majority of Japanese are welcoming to us 外国人 and find nationalists as annoying as I do.

Especially with those damn sound trucks. God those things are annoying!

Well, that explains why you want to kick out Okinawa.

Thankfully I know full well that the majority of Japanese are welcoming to us 外国人 and find nationalists as annoying as I do.

Especially with those damn sound trucks. God those things are annoying!


I disagree, It's well known that the Japanese are not fond of immigration. If you think I am alone you are sadly mistaken. Being proud of your history and culture is not a crime, I find people who think it is annoying.

I disagree, It's well known that the Japanese are not fond of immigration. If you think I am alone you are sadly mistaken. Being proud of your history and culture is not a crime, I find people who think it is annoying.
being proud of your history and culture isn't a crime. Claiming that you are better because of it, and being arrogrant over it, and claiming that your culture is the best and that everyone else sucks because they aren't you or your people, however, is quite different.

I disagree, It's well known that the Japanese are not fond of immigration.
Depends upon by what you mean fond of. Do they open up for a flood ala the US, no. Have I been treated with respect since I came to Japan, yes.

And if Japan REALLY doesn't like us, pray tell why international marriages are fast gaining traction?

If you think I am alone you are sadly mistaken.
Oh I know you're not. I've seen the nutjobs myself. I just know you are in a very small minority and that most Japanese find it just as annoying as I do.

Being proud of your history and culture is not a crime, I find people who think it is annoying.
Did I say so? I think not.

There is however a fine line between being proud of our country and culture, and attempting to place it above all else... and re-write history ala Yasukuni Jinja.

being proud of your history and culture isn't a crime. Claiming that you are better because of it, and being arrogrant over it, and claiming that your culture is the best and that everyone else sucks because they aren't you or your people, however, is quite different.



Let me see....Where did I say any of those things? I love Japanese culture and my homeland, I wish to protect it. But I also have a huge respect for other cultures as well, Chinese and Korean culture because what they have given us. I have always like the roman empire and Italy. Lovely country.

being proud of your history and culture isn't a crime. Claiming that you are better because of it, and being arrogrant over it, and claiming that your culture is the best and that everyone else sucks because they aren't you or your people, however, is quite different.



Let me see....Where did I say any of those things? I love Japanese culture and my homeland, I wish to protect it. But I also have a huge respect for other cultures as well, Chinese and Korean culture because what they have given us. I have always like the roman empire and Italy. Lovely country.

Don't assume things.

being proud of your history and culture isn't a crime. Claiming that you are better because of it, and being arrogrant over it, and claiming that your culture is the best and that everyone else sucks because they aren't you or your people, however, is quite different.



Let me see....Where did I say any of those things? I love Japanese culture and my homeland, I wish to protect it. But I also have a huge respect for other cultures as well, Mostly Chinese and Korean culture because what they have given us. I have always liked the roman empire and Italy. Lovely country.

Don't assume things.

Let me see....Where did I say any of those things? I love Japanese culture and my homeland, I wish to protect it. But I also have a huge respect for other cultures as well, Chinese and Korean culture because what they have given us. I have always like the roman empire and Italy. Lovely country.

Don't assume things.
something about the "fuck america" attitude might have a little somethin' somethin' to do with my response.

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Depends upon by what you mean fond of. Do they open up for a flood ala the US, no. Have I been treated with respect since I came to Japan, yes.

Tourism and people staying for a temporary amount of is seen as ok, people making Japan a permanent home is another.

And if Japan REALLY doesn't like us, pray tell why international marriages are fast gaining traction?

If they don't why is immigration as a way to increase Japans falling population rejected? Why is Japan's growth rate .002%? Which direction are they going?


Oh I know you're not. I've seen the nutjobs myself. I just know you are in a very small minority and that most Japanese find it just as annoying as I do.

So everybody who love their culture is a nutjob? You are why I resent white people. I also disagree that I am in the minority.



There is however a fine line between being proud of our country and culture, and attempting to place it above all else... and re-write history ala Yasukuni Jinja.

Did I do that? NO!

something about the "fuck america" attitude might have a little somethin' somethin' to do with my response.



Ever thought I might have the right to have that attitude? Your response feeds me, as it give me the idea that americans think that anybody who hates them must be nuts. Not true.

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hi peech :)

Someone called me Chinese once, so I bowed. No one has yet to call me Japanese though. :(

Ever thought I might have the right to have that attitude? Your response feeds me, as it give me the idea that americans think that anybody who hates them must be nuts. Not true.
no, I'm more attacking a bit of what I see to be hypocricy. If I made the same type of accusations against Japan that you make against America, you would be pissed. I don't think America is that hot, myself. Nor do I think Japan is exactly stellar.

I don't assume what country people are from, its rude. Try calling a Cuban a mexican...May get you shot. Or maybe if you call a puerto Rican a mexican...one or the other.

Nah, my husband is Mexican and someone said to him the other day "so what are you.........an A-RAB??? (they prounounced it AY-rab......rhymed with rehab)

He was annoyed at the redneck but considered the source. The average non Deliverance type person likely wouldnt have mistaken him for an "AY-rab":rolleyes:

He doesnt look mexican at all. Most people ask me if he's Italian or Greek. He never gets offended. I think what youre talking about up there with the 'ricans and mexicans and all that might be the few who walk around with a chip on their shoulder. Not the majority.

hi peech :)


sorry doll...i've been viewing this thread and it was stuck on page 6 for me and i couldnt get it to go. i thought i'd try a reply, hence the dot, to see if it would push me on over to the pages you guys are on and it worked. Jolt is like possessed lately. Sheesh

Nah, my husband ...

:(

:(


haha! I meant my pool boy.....yeah.

sorry doll...i've been viewing this thread and it was stuck on page 6 for me and i couldnt get it to go. i thought i'd try a reply, hence the dot, to see if it would push me on over to the pages you guys are on and it worked. Jolt is like possessed lately. Sheesh
haha...sok. Its been giving me issues today too. Which is fueling this spectacular mood I'm in :) haha

no, I'm not bitter or anything

and I agree with TSI's sad face.

no, I'm more attacking a bit of what I see to be hypocricy. If I made the same type of accusations against Japan that you make against America, you would be pissed. I don't think America is that hot, myself. Nor do I think Japan is exactly stellar.


Japan isn't perfect, some enviromental issues come to mind. But Japan isn't have has bad as america..Try and see what america has done since the end of world war 2, not pretty. Japan has been peacefull and has not shipped troops overseas for over 50+ years. Iraq was the first time since WW2.

Nah, my husband is Mexican and someone said to him the other day "so what are you.........an A-RAB??? (they prounounced it AY-rab......rhymed with rehab)

He was annoyed at the redneck but considered the source. The average non Deliverance type person likely wouldnt have mistaken him for an "AY-rab":rolleyes:

He doesnt look mexican at all. Most people ask me if he's Italian or Greek. He never gets offended. I think what youre talking about up there with the 'ricans and mexicans and all that might be the few who walk around with a chip on their shoulder. Not the majority.


I find it funny when people say the majority, nobody has met the majority so who even has the right to say what the majority is? Gallup said Kerry was going to win in 2004 and a lot of people claimed Bush haters were the majority then...who is in office? Nobody knows what the majority is.

Japan isn't perfect, some enviromental issues come to mind. But Japan isn't have has bad as america..Try and see what america has done since the end of world war 2, not pretty. Japan has been peacefull and has not shipped troops overseas for over 50+ years. Iraq was the first time since WW2.
And yet, they are there today. It might also have something to do with the fact that we took away their right to have a military (without getting into that particular issue)

I find it funny when people say the majority, nobody has met the majority so who even has the right to say what the majority is? Gallup said Kerry was going to win in 2004 and a lot of people claimed Bush haters were the majority then...who is in office? Nobody knows what the majority is.
I find it funny that you just debunked alot of your own arguments....

And yet, they are there today. It might also have something to do with the fact that we took away their right to have a military (without getting into that particular issue)


They took away more than that. Truman tried to take away the emperor but failed.

I find it funny when people say the majority, nobody has met the majority so who even has the right to say what the majority is? Gallup said Kerry was going to win in 2004 and a lot of people claimed Bush haters were the majority then...who is in office? Nobody knows what the majority is.


ok ....lets replace "majority" with 'the average person" Does that suit you? The average Mexican wouldnt have assaulted anyone over mistaken nationality.You really are bitter.....how sad.

They took away more than that. Truman tried to take away the emperor but failed.
but what I am saying is that when you have no military, or, following that, a defensive military, it is really quite difficult to send your military into another country. Thats like me saying "well, I could walk to the store, or drive, but I don't have a car". It isn't a choice if one option just doesn't exist.

but what I am saying is that when you have no military, or, following that, a defensive military, it is really quite difficult to send your military into another country. Thats like me saying "well, I could walk to the store, or drive, but I don't have a car". It isn't a choice if one option just doesn't exist.


It's hard to say if Japanese people even want one or not, I do but america having troops in Japan isn't frowned upon for some reason. It's is clear nuclear weapons are rejected by Japan and I think a lot of Japanese people are not in any rush for a war soon, a lot seem perfectly happy having the US protecting us...I'm not as I think Japan should protect itself.

Correction, white people can't tell us apart.

You might want to tell that to my old Chinese girlfriend, who was constantly mistaken for being Japanese. And you might want to tell that to the Japanese and Taiwanese students where I went to school with in Nagasaki, who all admitted they couldn't tell eache other apart. Also, you can tell the many Koreans I know, who I assure you even you couldn't tell were ethnicly different.
Finally, please tell the local police, who not long ago mistakenly arrested a Japanese woman on the suspicion that she was an illegal alien, after they asked for her alien registration card (which, of course being Japanese, she didn't have).

Japan has never lost its military. Its SDF is one of the most well funded and trained in the world.

Wow....that's all I can say...wow. I think I should make the 30 mile move north to Canada lol.

It's hard to say if Japanese people even want one or not, I do but america having troops in Japan isn't frowned upon for some reason. It's is clear nuclear weapons are rejected by Japan and I think a lot of Japanese people are not in any rush for a war soon, a lot seem perfectly happy having the US protecting us...I'm not as I think Japan should protect itself.

Meh, to the victors go the spoils.

Your grandparents made the mistake of attacking the US; now your generation is suffering the consequences.

You might want to tell that to my old Chinese girlfriend, who was constantly mistaken for being Japanese. And you might want to tell that to the Japanese and Taiwanese students where I went to school with in Nagasaki, who all admitted they couldn't tell eache other apart. Also, you can tell the many Koreans I know, who I assure you even you couldn't tell were ethnicly different.
Finally, please tell the local police, who not long ago mistakenly arrested a Japanese woman on the suspicion that she was an illegal alien, after they asked for her alien registration card (which, of course being Japanese, she didn't have).
just for entertainment, alllooksame.com (http://www.alllooksame.com/)

Those are some shockingly done graphics. Shit quality..

As for the mistake? Sigh, what else do you expect?

You might want to tell that to my old Chinese girlfriend, who was constantly mistaken for being Japanese. And you might want to tell that to the Japanese and Taiwanese students where I went to school with in Nagasaki, who all admitted they couldn't tell eache other apart. Also, you can tell the many Koreans I know, who I assure you even you couldn't tell were ethnicly different.
Finally, please tell the local police, who not long ago mistakenly arrested a Japanese woman on the suspicion that she was an illegal alien, after they asked for her alien registration card (which, of course being Japanese, she didn't have).


I go based on what I encounter. Most people get I am Japanese right off to bat.

Tourism and people staying for a temporary amount of is seen as ok, people making Japan a permanent home is another.
Really? Ask Daistallia 2104, he's been there since... what is it now, 22 years?

Or a number of friends of mine who have made Japan their home.

If they don't why is immigration as a way to increase Japans falling population rejected? Why is Japan's growth rate .002%? Which direction are they going?
Japan Times reported that the international marriage rate has hit 1 in 20.

So everybody who love their culture is a nutjob? You are why I resent white people. I also disagree that I am in the minority.
There's loving your country, and then there is going overboard. I've seen the nutjobs who cruse around Tokyo blaring music and screaming at the top of their sound systems about Japan rising up.

And yes, every Japanese person in the area got a very disgusted look on their face.

Yeah, you ARE in the minority. Or does less than 1% for that textbook, a Japan where 70% are in favor of a woman on the throne, 60% for not amending the Constitution, and so on not convince you?

BTW, when did YOU leave Japan?

They took away more than that. Truman tried to take away the emperor but failed.
*snorts* I have a feeling you don't actually know what was going on at that time.

just for entertainment, alllooksame.com (http://www.alllooksame.com/)

2/17

I suck at asian people.

2/17

I suck at asian people.
I got 12. admittedly, some were guesses, and one I got wrong turned out to be japanese, despite looking exactly like my korean friend

I got 12. admittedly, some were guesses, and one I got wrong turned out to be japanese, despite looking exactly like my korean friend
I got 14. It didn't help that many were making very silly faces. :p

Really? Ask Daistallia 2104, he's been there since... what is it now, 22 years?

Or a number of friends of mine who have made Japan their home.

But yet most are against immigration and Japan remains 99% Japanese.


Japan Times reported that the international marriage rate has hit 1 in 20.

In what direction?


There's loving your country, and then there is going overboard. I've seen the nutjobs who cruse around Tokyo blaring music and screaming at the top of their sound systems about Japan rising up.

And yes, every Japanese person in the area got a very disgusted look on their face.

Most likely the Music and loud noise. They need to tone it down.

Yeah, you ARE in the minority. Or does less than 1% for that textbook, a Japan where 70% are in favor of a woman on the throne, 60% for not amending the Constitution, and so on not convince you?

I am a woman and we have had females on throne..My name? Amending it in what way? I don't agree with chagning history. So no you haven't convinced me of anything.

BTW, when did YOU leave Japan?

1998. I have been back there every year since 2000. I was there last month in Nagaizumi. I spoke to some people about various issues and was well recieved. I am moving back permanently soon and will start my own political party. So far it looks good.


*snorts* I have a feeling you don't actually know what was going on at that time.


I have a feeling you know sqwat about World War 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirohito#Last_days_of_the_war


There were attempts by numerous leaders, among them President Harry S. Truman, to have Hirohito put on trial for alleged war crimes. U.S. General Douglas MacArthur insisted that Hirohito remain Emperor to keep him as a symbol of the continuity and cohesion of the Japanese people.

Thats what I meant. Are you done?

how old are you Empress? just curious

how old are you Empress? just curious


20

But yet most are against immigration and Japan remains 99% Japanese.
But more than 80 percent said Japan should accept foreign laborers conditionally or unconditionallyJapan Times, July 25th, 2004 on a survey released by the Japanese government.

The number of registered foreign residents in Japan at the end of 2005 totaled roughly 2,011,500, surpassing the 2 million mark for the first time ever, the Justice Ministry announced Friday.

The figure was up 1.9 percent from a year ago and foreign nationals now account for 1.57 percent of the total population.Japan Times, May 26, 2006 on the number of registered residents in Japan.

It's increasing, and I have yet to see anyone beyond the wingnuts take this as a BAD THING.

In what direction?
Considering it was 1 in 22 in 2000, more and more international marriages are being performed in Japan.

Most likely the Music and loud noise. They need to tone it down.
They also need to tone down their view points. They are on the fringe.

I am a woman and we have had females on throne..My name?
Oh? Didn't you know? The Imperial Sucession law currently states that only a male can accend the throne. The extream right in Japan is currently fighting a bid to change that law to allow HIH Princess Aiko to become Japan's first reigning Empress in a very long time.

Amending it in what way?
Scrapping Article 9 to allow Japan to not only have a military, but wage war again. Most people in Japan have come out against it. Or did you not know THAT?

1998. I have been back there every year since 2000. I was there last month in Nagaizumi. I spoke to some people about various issues and was well recieved. I am moving back permanently soon and will start my own political party. So far it looks good.
So you left Japan when you were 12?

And after living in another country for so long, do you really think you will be well accepted? I wish you luck.

I have a feeling you know sqwat about World War 2.
Says the woman who attempted to claim Japan could have taken Hawai'i right after Pearl Harbor.... right.

Thats what I meant.
Ah Wiki... Let's expand this a little to show off how much that snippit leaves out, m'k?

President Truman never directly asked for the removal of the Showa Emperor. Nor did he actually activly seak his removal from the throne, or the removal of the throne period. A number of Congressmen did, but the President instead made grumbling noises.

What he DID demand of SCAP was proof as to why the Emperor Showa should not face charges in the Tokyo Tribunal, proof that SCAP happily supplied (And ignored proof to the contrary). It provided the poltical screening President Truman needed to keep Congress from demanding the Emperor Showa dance at the end of a rope.

Indeed, later on President Truman was unhappy about the cost of the Showa Emperor's Japan tours, which SCAP got rid of as soon as President Truman demanded it. Now, if SCAP acted so damn fast about the tours, why do you think President Truman was gung ho about removing the Emperor, only to be blocked by his own general (and please remember that said president had no problem removing said general when he was unhappy with the Korean War. Truman was many things, easily cowed was not one of them).

Are you done?
Nope.

Nope.
that one made me smile. I am having flashbacks to the privitize education thread.....

*grabs popcorn and beer*

Japan Times, July 25th, 2004 on a survey released by the Japanese government.

Japan Times, May 26, 2006 on the number of registered residents in Japan.

It's increasing, and I have yet to see anyone beyond the wingnuts take this as a BAD THING.

Your numbers are off. I have heard anywhere from 1.3 million to 3.3 million. Its hard to pin down. I have gotten different views on this matter, most don't seem to mind a guest worker program but nothing beyond that.


Considering it was 1 in 22 in 2000, more and more international marriages are being performed in Japan.

And?


They also need to tone down their view points. They are on the fringe.

They have ever right to think however they want. They need to tone down a bit and the Japanese will listen, but they don't need to change their views to humor you.


Oh? Didn't you know? The Imperial Sucession law currently states that only a male can accend the throne. The extream right in Japan is currently fighting a bid to change that law to allow HIH Princess Aiko to become Japan's first reigning Empress in a very long time.

What part of I AM A FEMALE do you not understand?


Scrapping Article 9 to allow Japan to not only have a military, but wage war again. Most people in Japan have come out against it. Or did you not know THAT?

I did know that and I fail to see what your point is, I never said most Japanese people where for a strong military right now, I just said I wanted one. Yeeesh.


So you left Japan when you were 12?

And after living in another country for so long, do you really think you will be well accepted? I wish you luck.

I thought you said Japanese people were all open about that? You also missed the part were I said I have been there every year since 2000 and have been this year. I think you are just mad that I was well accepeted.


Says the woman who attempted to claim Japan could have taken Hawai'i right after Pearl Harbor.... right.

Japan could have with the right amount of troops.


Ah Wiki... Let's expand this a little to show off how much that snippit leaves out, m'k?

President Truman never directly asked for the removal of the Showa Emperor. Nor did he actually activly seak his removal from the throne, or the removal of the throne period. A number of Congressmen did, but the President instead made grumbling noises.

What he DID demand of SCAP was proof as to why the Emperor Showa should not face charges in the Tokyo Tribunal, proof that SCAP happily supplied (And ignored proof to the contrary). It provided the poltical screening President Truman needed to keep Congress from demanding the Emperor Showa dance at the end of a rope.

Indeed, later on President Truman was unhappy about the cost of the Showa Emperor's Japan tours, which SCAP got rid of as soon as President Truman demanded it. Now, if SCAP acted so damn fast about the tours, why do you think President Truman was gung ho about removing the Emperor, only to be blocked by his own general (and please remember that said president had no problem removing said general when he was unhappy with the Korean War. Truman was many things, easily cowed was not one of them).

Mind giving that said general a name?


Nope.

Thats your problem. Your attempts to make me out to be something I'm not while ignoring 99% of what I say is sad. Pay attention and ask me questions instead of attacking me and you JUST might be surprised at what you hear. I do have the right to disagree.

What you people don't understand is that this is really the way that the media is helping America. Having acknowledged the poor standard of geography in the US (with the title: Many Americans don't know where Iraq is, and a picture of the Suez Canal. *doh*), the media now seeks to educate Americans. By puting the wrong flag in the picture, they were hoping to get a number of corrections, allowing young Americans to learn the difference between China and Japan (To be fair: They thought it was a Korean flag; but at least they're trying, right?).

I got a 9/18 on the quiz, but I had to guess on most of them.

What you people don't understand is that this is really the way that the media is helping America. Having acknowledged the poor standard of geography in the US (Title: Many Americans don't know where Iraq is, and a picture of the Suez Canal. *doh*), the media now seeks to educate Americans. By puting the wrong flag in the picture, they were hoping to get a number of corrections, allowing young Americans to learn the difference between China and Japan (To be fair: They thought it was a Korean flag; but at least they're trying, right?).

I got a 9/18 on the quiz, but I had to guess on most of them.


It's gonna take alot more than that to save this country.

It's gonna take alot more than that to save this country.

Well, if the far right in America would stop hating intellectuals (My poodle can take down your honors student!) and the government would actually pay for a decent education system, that would be a step in the right direction.

Until then, the fuckups of the MSM will have to act in place of actual geography classes.

Your numbers are off. I have heard anywhere from 1.3 million to 3.3 million. Its hard to pin down. I have gotten different views on this matter, most don't seem to mind a guest worker program but nothing beyond that.
Yell at the Japanese government, they are the ones who have released the numbers and the survey. I still have not seen a poll that shows the majority of Japanese opposed to immigration.

And do you have proof of such feelings? Please post said proof.

And?
And obviously acceptance of international marriage and 外国人 is increasing. If more mixed couples are going to tie the knott, more and more immigrants are coming into Japan.

And more families are accepting the idea of an American or a Brazilian, or a Chinese as a son or daughter in law.

They have ever right to think however they want. They need to tone down a bit and the Japanese will listen, but they don't need to change their views to humor you.
Did I state that they need to change their view points to suit ME? I was talking about how their view points are extream to the majority of the Japanese (and probably causes deafness).

What part of I AM A FEMALE do you not understand?

I did know that and I fail to see what your point is, I never said most Japanese people where for a strong military right now, I just said I wanted one. Yeeesh.
What part of the majority of the Japanese people are not interested in nationalism and it's traditional talking points right now are you not understanding?

I thought you said Japanese people were all open about that? You also missed the part were I said I have been there every year since 2000 and have been this year. I think you are just mad that I was well accepeted.
Because traditionally Japanese who leave Japan have a hard time reajusting to life in Japan.

And so you go back? How nice for you. I go home each year too and find out that the US has changed quite a bit in the time I was away. My fiancee has been out of Japan for 5 years states the very same thing. Everytime she returns to Japan, she is amazed at what has changed.

Japan could have with the right amount of troops.
But they had no way to transport them. So far from what I have seen of your WWII knowledge, you have a very roisy colored view of it.

Mind giving that said general a name?
*sighs* If I must. General of the Army Douglas MacArthur (United States Army), at the time, Supreme Commander, Allied Powers (SCAP) [Pacific].

Did I miss anything?

Thats your problem. Your attempts to make me out to be something I'm not while ignoring 99% of what I say is sad. Pay attention and ask me questions instead of attacking me and you JUST might be surprised at what you hear. I do have the right to disagree.
Lass, this is a debate board. Your right to disagree is held sacrocent here on NS General.

MY right to engage you in debate is held the same. If you want an echo chamber you would probably be happier elsewhere.

Bah, you people are bringing this to the extreme. She just said she got pissed when people called her a chinese.

I get angry when people call me a colombian, for example. One bright guy in Miami once thought it was a good idea to call me "cuban mamita", just because I was talking in spanish. I still wonder what pissed me more, if the cuban or the mamita.

Next time I'll see an american I'll say "Hi, german", I'm sure he will loooove it.

Being proud about your nationality and culture is not wrong at all. You americans for sure know a lot of that. See how you are reacting just because someone actually told you that she thinks her country is better than yours!

ANATHEMA!

I am feeling sick, got a stomach bug. So NERVUN you can save whatever you got off of goggle for later.

Bah, you people are bringing this to the extreme. She just said she got pissed when people called her a chinese.

I get angry when people call me a colombian, for example. One bright guy in Miami once thought it was a good idea to call me "cuban mamita", just because I was talking in spanish. I still wonder what pissed me more, if the cuban or the mamita.

Next time I'll see an american I'll say "Hi, german", I'm sure he will loooove it.

Being proud about your nationality and culture is not wrong at all. You americans for sure know a lot of that. See how you are reacting just because someone actually told you that she thinks her country is better than yours!

ANATHEMA!well, actually, if you said "Hi German", you could be correct. American is not our ethnicity. That is what we are talking about. And I would react the same way to a german getting pissed about being called french. Its stupid. thats all there is to it. So the person made a mistake and called you the wrong ethnicity. Correct them. Don't friggin slap them.
And in Miami, it is fairly safe to assume those who speak spanish are cuban...considering most of the population is cuban

Yell at the Japanese government, they are the ones who have released the numbers and the survey. I still have not seen a poll that shows the majority of Japanese opposed to immigration.

if the governement did why are they still being accused of altering numbers?

And do you have proof of such feelings? Please post said proof.

What? You want me to go back in time and record my visit?


And obviously acceptance of international marriage and 外国人 is increasing. If more mixed couples are going to tie the knott, more and more immigrants are coming into Japan.

And more families are accepting the idea of an American or a Brazilian, or a Chinese as a son or daughter in law.

You are going overboard, Immigration is still very low and 1 in 22 or 1 or 21 or whatever is still low. 4.5 to 4.7%


Did I state that they need to change their view points to suit ME? I was talking about how their view points are extream to the majority of the Japanese (and probably causes deafness).

You said they should change their views. if they tone down the Japanese people will listen. Few want another Tojo.


What part of the majority of the Japanese people are not interested in nationalism and it's traditional talking points right now are you not understanding?

What does that have to do with what I said?




Because traditionally Japanese who leave Japan have a hard time reajusting to life in Japan.

And so you go back? How nice for you. I go home each year too and find out that the US has changed quite a bit in the time I was away. My fiancee has been out of Japan for 5 years states the very same thing. Everytime she returns to Japan, she is amazed at what has changed.

Again you are wrong, The last time I was in Japan it hadn't changed that much.


But they had no way to transport them. So far from what I have seen of your WWII knowledge, you have a very roisy colored view of it.

Yeesh. It was possible if they had the ability to.


*sighs* If I must. General of the Army Douglas MacArthur (United States Army), at the time, Supreme Commander, Allied Powers (SCAP) [Pacific].

Did I miss anything?

Most likely.


Lass, this is a debate board. Your right to disagree is held sacrocent here on NS General.

MY right to engage you in debate is held the same. If you want an echo chamber you would probably be happier elsewhere.


Don't call me a lass. I am sure you meant sacrosanct. You seem to want me to echo you and get upset when I won't. Nobody is forcing you to read what I write.

The problem is in the assuming.

For example, I am not assuming that you as an United Stater, a land filled with thousands of idiots, are an idiot. That would be just a mistake and a unforgivable generalization, letting myself fall into stereotypes.

Assuming that someone speaking in spanish in Miami is cuban because he/she is cuban is kinda silly, and only shows how closeminded are you, not remembering that a huge load of other countries speak spanish and that Miami CAN be a tourism spot.

Like assuming blacks are criminals, or asian are smart, and the like.

I'm not into the slap, really, I do not think violence solves anything, and I also thnk that true ladies do not raise their hands to smite those who offend them, as hand fighting is reserved for peasants. And german is not an ethnicity, it is a nationality, like United Stater, and unlike american.

The problem is in the assuming.

For example, I am not assuming that you as an United Stater, a land filled with thousands of idiots, are an idiot. That would be just a mistake and a unforgivable generalization, letting myself fall into stereotypes.

Assuming that someone speaking in spanish in Miami is cuban because he/she is cuban is kinda silly, and only shows how closeminded are you, not remembering that a huge load of other countries speak spanish and that Miami CAN be a tourism spot.To some extent, you're right. To another, you aren't. Look at it like this. 90% of the spanish speaking population of Miami is cuban. Would you say it is safe to take the educated guess that a spanish speaker is cuban? Sure, it might be wrong, but that would only be 1 out of 10 times. I wouldn't say its closeminded...humans make generalizations.



I'm not into the slap, really, I do not think violence solves anything, and I also thnk that true ladies do not raise their hands to smite those who offend them, as hand fighting is reserved for peasants. And german is not an ethnicity, it is a nationality, like United Stater, and unlike american.
Without getting into the whole United Stater vs. American debate, German is considered an ethnicity, as is English, Welsh, French, Spanish, etc. They are both nationality and ethnicity. German, iirc, would be decended from the Goths and a few other groups. American, or USer, or whatever the fuck we're calling it today, is only a nationality.

if the governement did why are they still being accused of altering numbers?
Accused by who? Where?

What? You want me to go back in time and record my visit?
Sooooo... in other words your knowledge of the current views of Japan are based upon a visit you made to one area and amoung like minded people...

Tell me... do you know what the concept of N means and how it applies in stats?

You are going overboard, Immigration is still very low and 1 in 22 or 1 or 21 or whatever is still low. 4.5 to 4.7%
And in a very short time period it was grown. It's called a trend. Like I said, Japan isn't opening the flood gates, but it isn't making moves to get people to leave either.

You said they should change their views. if they tone down the Japanese people will listen. Few want another Tojo.
I said they needed to change to get people to listen. I didn't say they had to suit me. Please stop attempting to put words in my mouth.

What does that have to do with what I said?
Just pointing out what you apparently missed.

Again you are wrong, The last time I was in Japan it hadn't changed that much.
Forgive me, but I think I will take the word of my fiancee and friends, who were in Japan longer than you have been alive before departing to the US, over you in how much Japan has changed.

Yeesh. It was possible if they had the ability to.
No, you said they COULD if they WANTED to, not that it was possible if they had the ability.

Most likely.
And what did I miss then, pray tell?

You seem to want me to echo you and get upset when I won't.
No, I am debating you. Thus is the way of this particular board. Don't like it? Get out of the kitchen.

Nobody is forcing you to read what I write.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! God, talk about irony! My dear Empress_Suiko, no one is forcing YOU to read what I write either. If you post something on this board, you better be damned well prepared to be challenged on it.

To some extent, you're right. To another, you aren't. Look at it like this. 90% of the spanish speaking population of Miami is cuban. Would you say it is safe to take the educated guess that a spanish speaker is cuban? Sure, it might be wrong, but that would only be 1 out of 10 times. I wouldn't say its closeminded...humans make generalizations.

90% of the people that speak english around here are americans. Perhaps more. And yet it is polite to ask "where are you from". I had ran into two aussies, a handful of british and a south african that way. They wouldn't liked that I called them "americans", as maybe you wouldn't like to be called an australian in Japan, perhaps?

Humans make generalizations indeed. They shouldn't



Without getting into the whole United Stater vs. American debate, German is considered an ethnicity, as is English, Welsh, French, Spanish, etc. They are both nationality and ethnicity. German, iirc, would be decended from the Goths and a few other groups. American, or USer, or whatever the fuck we're calling it today, is only a nationality.

German is a nationality, not an ethnicity. Nor english, French or Spanish are, at far as I know. Watch the french soccer team, for instance, yeah, they sure are an ethnicity, no?

Spain have like four or five different ethnicities, taking a most extensive example. And none of them are named "spanish"!, thus spanish is a nationality, not an ethnicity.

Thank you for giving me another entry to the "People from the USA do not have an accurate view on the world" register.

Accused by who? Where?

It has been a long standing criticism.


Sooooo... in other words your knowledge of the current views of Japan are based upon a visit you made to one area and amoung like minded people...

Who said like minded? And it was more than one.

Tell me... do you know what the concept of N means and how it applies in stats?

No, But I am sure you'll tell me...


And in a very short time period it was grown. It's called a trend. Like I said, Japan isn't opening the flood gates, but it isn't making moves to get people to leave either.

Trends also stop, Trends never last.


I said they needed to change to get people to listen. I didn't say they had to suit me. Please stop attempting to put words in my mouth.

Tastes bad don't it? Don't do it to me.


Just pointing out what you apparently missed.

It sounded like you assumed I would be against a female emperor.


Forgive me, but I think I will take the word of my fiancee and friends, who were in Japan longer than you have been alive before departing to the US, over you in how much Japan has changed.

There is no need to be rude.


No, you said they COULD if they WANTED to, not that it was possible if they had the ability.

I stand by my comment. Japan could have taken Hawaii if it wanted to. But pearl harbor wasn't about invading the area.




No, I am debating you. Thus is the way of this particular board. Don't like it? Get out of the kitchen.


You have been a tad rude and disrespectful to my views.




BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! God, talk about irony! My dear Empress_Suiko, no one is forcing YOU to read what I write either. If you post something on this board, you better be damned well prepared to be challenged on it.

You never challenged me. But I grow tired of this, I think most will agree when I say this is going nowhere and neither of us are going to change our minds. Of course you can't change my mind because you don't really know any of my views...You think you do but you don't. How could you when you never asked?

It has been a long standing criticism.
Proof please.

Who said like minded? And it was more than one.

Then how many was it?

No, But I am sure you'll tell me...
N refers to a population. The idea being that you chose you N to reflect the population you wish to study. An N of 20 college students from one college only reflects upon that college and is not applicable to college students nation wide. So to say that from a meeting in one area of Japan you were able to achive a N that relates to the whole of the Japanese people is more than a little far fetched.

Trends also stop, Trends never last.
Well, this trend seems to be increasing, not decreasing showing an acceptance of immigration. You're right, it may swing later, but right now it's growing.

Tastes bad don't it? Don't do it to me.
And where did I do so to you?

It sounded like you assumed I would be against a female emperor.
No, I said the majority of Japanese are against the traditional nationalism and their usual talking points.

There is no need to be rude.
Rude? Oh believe you me, I have not yet begun to be rude.

You have been a tad rude and disrespectful to my views.
As opposed to you coming in to this thread and declaring that "Correction, white people can't tell us apart." and "One guy called me Chinese, I slapped him." among other comments?

You never challenged me.
I must be losing my touch.

But I grow tired of this, I think most will agree when I say this is going nowhere and neither of us are going to change our minds. Of course you can't change my mind because you don't really know any of my views...You think you do but you don't. How could you when you never asked?
You were invited to. You chose to act like a 小学生. You were invited again and rather than explain, you lauched into a tirade against us racist whites. How many times must we ask?

But, yes, I grow tired of this myself. I wish you luck in your endevor and hopefully a removal of the chip on your shoulder.

Why would a monarchist racist nationalist lesbian 20 year old Japanese have a Korean sig?

Why would a monarchist racist nationalist lesbian 20 year old Japanese have a Korean sig?

Lesbian?
Japanese?
Female?
20 years old?

Any of those are true?

I believe our facial structure also gives it away... then there is the hair...

Here, let's simplify this in an easy way for everyone: Asians look similar, white people look similar, black people look similar, middle-easterners look similar.

Though it is true that Koreans and Japanese seem to be more similar to eachother than Koreans and Chinese or Japanese and Chinese.

Lesbian?
Japanese?
Female?
20 years old?

Any of those are true?


All 4 of the are thank you. I never said I was a racist and I also guess some people missed the part where I said i respected what Korea has given Japan in the past.

All 4 of the are thank you. I never said I was a racist and I also guess some people missed the part where I said i respected what Korea has given Japan in the past.

I thought the chain went from China to Japan to Korea, in terms of society establishment?

I thought the chain went from China to Japan to Korea, in terms of society establishment?



China to Korea to Japan I believe. Korea is older than Japan.

All 4 of the are thank you. I never said I was a racist and I also guess some people missed the part where I said i respected what Korea has given Japan in the past.

Just asking, that's all.

Thanks for answering.

I'm at your side, sooo...

All 4 of the are thank you. I never said I was a racist and I also guess some people missed the part where I said i respected what Korea has given Japan in the past.
Hmm, you've been on NS before, haven't you, Kishijoten?

China to Korea to Japan I believe. Korea is older than Japan.

Hm, I wasn't aware. I've only heard of the China/Japan wars and struggles for power - I always found it weird that Korea was never involved, or if it was, I was never told about it. :p

Another example of the US-centrism that annoys the world.

Your comment is another example of superiority that annoys Americans.

It's FAKE. A poorly Photoshopped screenshot. If CBS News truly did that, you wouldn't be finding out about it on a NationStates forum.

As an aside, if your country was huge, had a strong pop culture and media presence of its own, and was arguably the strongest military power in the world, you'd be ethnocentric too.

I live in Florida, and it takes about the same time to fly to San Francisco (7-8 hours) as it does to fly to London (7-8 hours). And in San Francisco, I'm still about 1000 miles from the nearest international border. And in San Francisco, although the politics and culture are different in some obvious ways, it's still the U.S.; I don't have to adjust to another language or other food (unless I specifically make an effort to do so) or even drastically different laws. It's not like it is in Europe, where you could drive from Paris to Madrid for the weekend and experience a completely different culture.

So stop piling on Americans as ethno-centric... we're just living our lives, and as a whole, don't have to deal with other cultures unless we make a specific -- and very expensive -- effort to do so. Just deal!

It's FAKE. A poorly Photoshopped screenshot. If CBS News truly did that, you wouldn't be finding out about it on a NationStates forum.
Ah... no. It was quite real. And quite funny.

you as an United Stater

UNITED STATESER?!?!?! WTF? You must be joking.

That's the most stupid-sounding phrase I've heard in a long time. That is the reason we call ourselves "Americans" -- anything else sounds ridiculous.

"I'm proud to be a United Stateser!!!!"
"Proudly waving the United Stateser flag!!!!!"
"The United Stateser amabassador to Germany..."

As a matter of fact, I'm going to use that phrase as much as I can, because it sounds so absurd, it makes me smile.

I've been to South America; I have family there. Peruvians, Uruguayans, etc. could call themselves americanos, but they don't. They have no desire to do so. Get it through your skulls. It's not like we're threatening to nuke the rest of the Americas if they call themselves americanos. Peruvians call themselves peruanos. You know what the Spanish word is for a US citizen? Americano. Yeah, americano (gringo is either slang, or a slur, depending on where you go). Several times I used estadounidense (Spanish equivalent of USer, and I was corrected with the term americano.

This pseudoenlightened crap really bugs me... no reasonable person is saying we're the ONLY Americans... just that no one really calls themselves that except those from the U.S. -- we have nothing more specific to lean back on, so that's the word we use! Again, deal!

Ah... no. It was quite real. And quite funny.

I also beg to differ...

http://www.google.com/search?q=cbs+japan+china+flag+moon&btnG=Search

Googling it doesn't find anything. A mistake like that would have prompted much grandstanding from rival media outlets, not to mention the Chinese government.

Your comment is another example of superiority that annoys Americans.

It's FAKE. A poorly Photoshopped screenshot. If CBS News truly did that, you wouldn't be finding out about it on a NationStates forum.

As an aside, if your country was huge, had a strong pop culture and media presence of its own, and was arguably the strongest military power in the world, you'd be ethnocentric too.

I live in Florida, and it takes about the same time to fly to San Francisco (7-8 hours) as it does to fly to London (7-8 hours). And in San Francisco, I'm still about 1000 miles from the nearest international border. And in San Francisco, although the politics and culture are different in some obvious ways, it's still the U.S.; I don't have to adjust to another language or other food (unless I specifically make an effort to do so) or even drastically different laws. It's not like it is in Europe, where you could drive from Paris to Madrid for the weekend and experience a completely different culture.

So stop piling on Americans as ethno-centric... we're just living our lives, and as a whole, don't have to deal with other cultures unless we make a specific -- and very expensive -- effort to do so. Just deal!

You have the right to be that way.

We have the right to hate you for it.

I also beg to differ...

http://www.google.com/search?q=cbs+japan+china+flag+moon&btnG=Search

Googling it doesn't find anything. A mistake like that would have prompted much grandstanding from rival media outlets, not to mention the Chinese government.
I beg to differ myself, considering I am the one who took the screen shot. But don't believe me, believe CBS.

Editor's Note: A previous version of this story included a graphic of the Japanese flag instead of the Chinese flag. We regret the error.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/tech/main1734030.shtml

Always a good idea to check your claims.

UNITED STATESER?!?!?! WTF? You must be joking.

That's the most stupid-sounding phrase I've heard in a long time. That is the reason we call ourselves "Americans" -- anything else sounds ridiculous.

"I'm proud to be a United Stateser!!!!"
"Proudly waving the United Stateser flag!!!!!"
"The United Stateser amabassador to Germany..."

As a matter of fact, I'm going to use that phrase as much as I can, because it sounds so absurd, it makes me smile.

I've been to South America; I have family there. Peruvians, Uruguayans, etc. could call themselves americanos, but they don't. They have no desire to do so. Get it through your skulls. It's not like we're threatening to nuke the rest of the Americas if they call themselves americanos. Peruvians call themselves peruanos. You know what the Spanish word is for a US citizen? Americano. Yeah, americano (gringo is either slang, or a slur, depending on where you go). Several times I used estadounidense (Spanish equivalent of USer, and I was corrected with the term americano.

This pseudoenlightened crap really bugs me... no reasonable person is saying we're the ONLY Americans... just that no one really calls themselves that except those from the U.S. -- we have nothing more specific to lean back on, so that's the word we use! Again, deal!

That's cow excrement, not even bull shit.

I am spanish-venezuelan, I also read and write news for a living. I have an universitary degree in my native language, spanish.

The word is ESTADOUNIDENSE, not AMERICANO, only northern mexicans call you "americanos", by the extension of the word that you use for themselves.

We in South America call ourselves americanos, for christ's sake. Good for your family if they use americanos. We call ourselves, suramericanos, iberoamericanos, latinoamericanos and just americanos, a LOT.

Not "United Stateser", but "United Stater" would be a better translation for "Estadounidense", which is the most widely used and correct word in South America. I still have to see the phrase "El presidente americano George W Bush", because that would mean he's the President of America.

check the RAE for details, please.

Meh, find better sources, or try out to discuss it with someone else, United Stater.

I beg to differ myself, considering I am the one who took the screen shot. But don't believe me, believe CBS.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/tech/main1734030.shtml

Always a good idea to check your claims.

OK, yeah, that's pretty bad.

That's cow excrement, not even bull shit.

I am spanish-venezuelan, I also read and write news for a living. I have an universitary degree in my native language, spanish.

The word is ESTADOUNIDENSE, not AMERICANO, only northern mexicans call you "americanos", by the extension of the word that you use for themselves.

We in South America call ourselves americanos, for christ's sake. Good for your family if they use americanos. We call ourselves, suramericanos, iberoamericanos, latinoamericanos and just americanos, a LOT.

Not "United Stateser", but "United Stater" would be a better translation for "Estadounidense", which is the most widely used and correct word in South America. I still have to see the phrase "El presidente americano George W Bush", because that would mean he's the President of America.

check the RAE for details, please.

Meh, find better sources, or try out to discuss it with someone else, United Stater.

I think Uruguayans, Paraguayans and Peruvians are enough to show that it's not as universal as you claim. If you want to call yourself americano, suramericano, sandwich de queso, I don't care, be my guest. Just don't get your panties in a wad because we call ourselves Americans.

Bah, I do not "get my panties in a wad" because you call yourselves americans, after all, you have every right of doing so, as you are indeed americans.

But, stop having an epileptic episode each time you get called United Stater, please.

You are the one that looked "offended"

I think Uruguayans, Paraguayans and Peruvians are enough to show that it's not as universal as you claim. If you want to call yourself americano, suramericano, sandwich de queso, I don't care, be my guest. Just don't get your panties in a wad because we call ourselves Americans.

You can stop being so damned obnoxious now.

Bah, I do not "get my panties in a wad" because you call yourselves americans, after all, you have every right of doing so, as you are indeed americans.

But, stop having an epileptic episode each time you get called United Stater, please.

You are the one that looked "offended"

I'm not offended at all... I just think the term "United Stater" sounds ridiculous.

You can stop being so damned obnoxious now.

Ummm, calling someone obnoxious doesn't add to the discussion. Address my points instead of calling names. Thanks!

I'm not offended at all... I just think the term "United Stater" sounds ridiculous.

I just think that the word "american" associated to a nation and not a continent, as it was supposed to be, sounds ridiculous too.

Again this discussion reached an end, no?.

Ummm, calling someone obnoxious doesn't add to the discussion. Address my points instead of calling names. Thanks!

"Panties in a wad"? "Sandwich de queso"? Yeah, great points. Run along, troll.

"Panties in a wad"? "Sandwich de queso"? Yeah, great points. Run along, troll.

Dude, I'm poking fun. I think there's something wrong with you if you think anyone who disagrees with a little bit of spunk is a troll.

Fine, have a nice day. :rolleyes:

That is not poking fun, but whatever.

As you might see, I do not take disagreement as an offense. I have been flamed in this forum enough to be THAT sensitive.

Just keep it civil, and as I said, each of us already reached the centroid of our arguments, when we said "I just think that I like/dislike". Arguing past that point is useless.

A word to the waring parties, the Mods hath decreed that debates about Usain or Usian, or what have you are no longer welcomed in General.

This thread has gotten off topic enough.

A word to the waring parties, the Mods hath decreed that debates about Usain or Usian, or what have you are no longer welcomed in General.

This thread has gotten off topic enough.

You should had said that a page before, when the discussion was still alive.

Well, at least they're in the same general area, right?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/ChinaandJapan.jpg
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/tech/main1734030.shtml

Ahahahaha! I am suddenly reminded as to why I use the BBC as my primary source of news.

You should had said that a page before, when the discussion was still alive.
I was busy watching a ramen contest on TV, so sue me.

I stand by my comment. Japan could have taken Hawaii if it wanted to. But pearl harbor wasn't about invading the area.

While I know the main intention was to destroy the US Fleet, and especially the carriers, I thought - and maybe I should check my sources - that there was at least some plan to start an uprising among the Japanese-Americans living in Hawaii, coinciding with or right after the attack on Pearl Harbor. I guess such an idea could just have been made to cause trouble, but it seems like if it succeeded it would be a natural precursor to occupation.

But speaking hypothetically for a minute, I don't believe that Japan could have taken Hawaii, even if it had wanted to (which is probably why they didn't try. It would have been a far more devestating blow to lose that base and staging area in the first attack than to lose most of the fleet - even if the Japanese had caught a carrier or two as well). First off, there's the logistical difficulty: even getting the Japanese carriers within striking distance required a fairly large fleet, and several tankers. If you added an invasion force to that, with the requisite number of extra destroyers, takers, and a battleship or a couple cruisers, even with the sloppiness of American air patrols I don't see how it could have gone undetected. And with detection, the entire operation would have had only the most limited success - probably about half of what it did accomplish, although I don't remember the strength of the Hawaii garrison - and the invasion wouldn't have come off. After the war started, there would have been no way to bring off the operation secretly. By the day after the attack - maybe two days - air patrols were out, and thorough. Which is one of the reasons Yamamoto determined that Midway needed to be taken first.

For Japan to have managed a sneak attack and invasion, assuming all of Japan's other operations were also carried out per historical record, would imply a Japanese fleet large enough for American surrender (or, possibly, immediate increase in research/development of long-range planes, an interesting hypothetical) to be the only plausible option - any new American fleet would have been picked apart as it was made. The Japanese fleet was impressive even as it was, but it had a lot of territory to cover after the conquests in 1941. The Midway fleet was about the largest force the Japanese could plausibly - safely - assemble after that while keeping an eye out on the conquered territory (the fleet that made the diversionary attack towards the Aelutians might be justified, but probably left some of the defensive line of the Japanese fleet weakened, if the Allies had known where to strike). By the time of, say, the battle of Leyte Gulf, the Japanese fleet assembled may have been bigger, but it had less territory to concentrate on.

Anyway, that's all extremely hyptothetical, not to mention a bit of a shallow analysis of the history, but I disagree with your assertion.

Not "United Stateser", but "United Stater" would be a better translation for "Estadounidense", which is the most widely used and correct word in South America. I still have to see the phrase "El presidente americano George W Bush", because that would mean he's the President of America.

I rarely hear/see Bush called "President of America" either. Almost always "The President of the United States" or (since I live in the US) just "the President". But we call ourselves Americans because... well, we are, for one thing. We don't say you aren't (assuming you live in the Americas), but a lot of us still only have a vague idea of this whole United States thing. Sure, we're patriotic, we know what our country is, but we tend to identify ourselves - and especially other Americans - first by region.

Weird but true. At least around here, in Michigan, Canadians, Californians, and New Yorkers are all about equally weird, except that Canadians say "eh", New Yorkers can't drive, and Californians are a bunch of hippies. ;) Regardless of the facts of the matter, people I know in the US tend to think of themselves as part of "America", an attitude that goes back at least to Monroe.

Of course, the weakness of this is that we then recursively start identifying "America" as the US, the whole US, and nothing but the US, but that's just human stupidity, not the root of the name. When have we ever been anything but "Americans", except formally? That's what other people call us. All the foreign exchange students I've known have started out, when I first knew them, calling us Americans.

Maybe it's geographically inaccurate, but the name's more or less a fait accompli right now, and as long as everyone knows what you mean, why bother about it? Or is that too much of a "USian" attitude to deal with?

just for entertainment, alllooksame.com (http://www.alllooksame.com/)

I got 7 out of 18, which accordeing to that site is "very bad". Note that this is after 15 (NOT 22 you silly NEVRUN - :::bashes NEVRUN with a roll of nattomaki:::) years in Japan, in a locality and job where I have a large number of ethnic Korean and Jaoanese friends... In my book the site's more ethnically prejudicede than I am...

A word to the waring parties, the Mods hath decreed that debates about Usain or Usian, or what have you are no longer welcomed in General.

This thread has gotten off topic enough.??? it was? when.... where....

damn me for logging off of NS... :p :D

I got 7 out of 18, which accordeing to that site is "very bad". Note that this is after 15 (NOT 22 you silly NEVRUN - :::bashes NEVRUN with a roll of nattomaki:::) years in Japan, in a locality and job where I have a large number of ethnic Korean and Jaoanese friends... In my book the site's more ethnically prejudicede than I am...

I got 6 - the average is 7.

Hmm, you've been on NS before, haven't you, Kishijoten?
that was my guess. Perhaps we'll get another spectacular suicide by mod :rolleyes:

Note that this is after 15 (NOT 22 you silly NEVRUN - :::bashes NEVRUN with a roll of nattomaki:::) years in Japan, in a locality and job where I have a large number of ethnic Korean and Jaoanese friends...
いたい! ;)
Sorry, must have misremembered. :p

??? it was? when.... where....

damn me for logging off of NS...
Kat posted a sticky about it. CALLING people it seems to be ok, but asking why you get upset or debating it has gotten old, apparently.

that was my guess. Perhaps we'll get another spectacular suicide by mod :rolleyes:
I hope not.

いたい! ;)
Sorry, must have misremembered. :p what a waste of a good nattomaki.... :(

nattomaki
Kat posted a sticky about it. CALLING people it seems to be ok, but asking why you get upset or debating it has gotten old, apparently.read it after I posted.... to ambiguous to stop anyone from debating it again.

read it after I posted.... to ambiguous to stop anyone from debating it again.
when have we ever given up debating something just because its obnoxious/pointless/makes me want to slam my head into a brick wall at 93 mph (149.67 kph)

I give you: religion, gay rights, military, porn, sex, culture, words, grammar, music, movies, cars, and just about everything else ever discussed here.

something tells me that you know this through first hand experience...
;)

Not funny. :mad:


I hate racist white people.

I have a problem with non-asians. I can tolerate Koreans and Chinese...But not much beyond that.

I can see why you added that qualification. It's clear you like racism, just not white people. They you for giving me reason to giggle.

I can see why you added that qualification. It's clear you like racism, just not white people. They you for giving me reason to giggle.

Ditto.

Bunny: Holy shit, you see that fucking head come apart, man? Shit, I've never seen brains like that before, man.

Your comment is another example of superiority that annoys Americans.

It's FAKE. A poorly Photoshopped screenshot. If CBS News truly did that, you wouldn't be finding out about it on a NationStates forum.

As an aside, if your country was huge, had a strong pop culture and media presence of its own, and was arguably the strongest military power in the world, you'd be ethnocentric too.

I live in Florida, and it takes about the same time to fly to San Francisco (7-8 hours) as it does to fly to London (7-8 hours). And in San Francisco, I'm still about 1000 miles from the nearest international border. And in San Francisco, although the politics and culture are different in some obvious ways, it's still the U.S.; I don't have to adjust to another language or other food (unless I specifically make an effort to do so) or even drastically different laws. It's not like it is in Europe, where you could drive from Paris to Madrid for the weekend and experience a completely different culture.

So stop piling on Americans as ethno-centric... we're just living our lives, and as a whole, don't have to deal with other cultures unless we make a specific -- and very expensive -- effort to do so. Just deal!
Ah... no. It was quite real. And quite funny.
I also beg to differ...
http://www.google.com/search?q=cbs+japan+china+flag+moon&btnG=Search
Googling it doesn't find anything. A mistake like that would have prompted much grandstanding from rival media outlets, not to mention the Chinese government.
I beg to differ myself, considering I am the one who took the screen shot. But don't believe me, believe CBS.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/tech/main1734030.shtml
Always a good idea to check your claims.
OK, yeah, that's pretty bad.

Magical. It's what the internet was invented for.

I can see why you added that qualification. It's clear you like racism, just not white people. They you for giving me reason to giggle.



The reason I have a problem with white people is a lot of them are racist. No black man ever called me a gook. All the racism I have ever gotten was from white people.

Ahahahaha! I am suddenly reminded as to why I use the BBC as my primary source of news.

Remember this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOPZxO-iw9Q&search=bbc%20mistake

He thinks he's in an interview for a job.

The reason I have a problem with white people is a lot of them are racist. No black man ever called me a gook. All the racism I have ever gotten was from white people.
If you look at someone and determine that they are more likely to be racist based on their racial appearance, guess what you are.

If you look at someone and determine that they are more likely to be racist based on their racial appearance, guess what you are.
So if I'm white and I notice that you are a racist person of another colour, that very observation makes me racist. Nice, I like it. It's like quantum tag racism, you know it's there but as soon as you notice it, you're it.

Let me break it down for you guys. When someone has to deal with Racism from another group, like an asian getting racism from whites they develop problems with that group. A lot of Blacks still have problems with whites as do Mexicans. Now when that person states the racism they have gotten to members of that group, like I did here and all that happens is that group calls that person a racist...Guess what happens? It come across as if you are ok with that Racism the person recieved and it is acceptable, therefore making that person develop a bigger problem. Whatever happened to denouncing that racism and make it clear that you don't condone it? I haven't gotten that here today.

The reason I have a problem with white people is a lot of them are racist. No black man ever called me a gook. All the racism I have ever gotten was from white people.

DId they say things like "I can only tolerate people of group x"? Because that would make them SOOOO racists. You hate racists, remember.

I can tolerate Koreans and Chinese...But not much beyond that.

D'oh. I mean, you hate the racists who have the wrong skin color. Me, I have a problem with racists and I don't care what color their skin is. I particularly have a problem with people who justify their racism by claiming other people were racist first. People like.... hmmmm... if only I could think of an example.

Let me break it down for you guys. When someone has to deal with Racism from another group, like an asian getting racism from whites they develop problems with that group. A lot of Blacks still have problems with whites as do Mexicans. Now when that person states the racism they have gotten to members of that group, like I did here and all that happens is that group calls that person a racist...Guess what happens? It come across as if you are ok with that Racism the person recieved and it is acceptable, therefore making that person develop a bigger problem. Whatever happened to denouncing that racism and make it clear that you don't condone it? I haven't gotten that here today.

Or perhaps they have a problem with racism of all types regardless of whether or not you make excuses. People are talking about YOUR racism because you're here. Bring the people who you are talking here and they'll get the same response. Their racism is not an excuse for yours. Someone has to stop it. You are as guilty as the people you complain about. Unless you're actually claiming that ALL white people and ONLY white people are racists.

DId they say things like "I can only tolerate people of group x"? Because that would make them SOOOO racists. You hate racists, remember.



D'oh. I mean, you hate the racists who have the wrong skin color. Me, I have a problem with racists and I don't care what color their skin is. I particularly have a problem with people who justify their racism by claiming other people were racist first. People like.... hmmmm... if only I could think of an example.


Has anybody caught on to I never said I hated white people? I said I have a problem with them......

Has anybody caught on to I never said I hated white people? I said I have a problem with them......

Perhaps you don't know what racism is?

Racism - 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Hatred is not a requirement for racism. You prejudge people based on race. In the case of white people, you have a general problem with them becuase of what some individual people have done. Would I be justified in having a problem with Japanese people after encountering you?

Or perhaps they have a problem with racism of all types regardless of whether or not you make excuses. People are talking about YOUR racism because you're here. Bring the people who you are talking here and they'll get the same response. Their racism is not an excuse for yours. Someone has to stop it. You are as guilty as the people you complain about. Unless you're actually claiming that ALL white people and ONLY white people are racists.


You didn't understand a word I said did you? Thats odd, I mention this to one of my friends....A WHITE GUY! And he understood it clearly.

Can't we all just... get along? :)

Perhaps you don't know what racism is?



Lets see, Hating someone because the color of their skin...which I never said i did. Can I talk to somebody else?

I always thought gook refered to the vietnamese, and chink to the chinese... or is it just asians in general :confused:

Anyway, here's how I look at racism. If you hate a race different from your own, that's racism. I think poking fun at a certain race's characteristics isn't really racism, it's just poking fun. No one should take it seriously, as it's probably not meant to hurt anyone's feelings.

Can't we all just... get along? :)



That would be nice......Not gonna happen sadly.

You didn't understand a word I said did you? Thats odd, I mention this to one of my friends....A WHITE GUY! And he understood it clearly.

I understood exactly what you said. You've encountered some racists in your life. I think that's terrible. I'm sorry you encountered them.

You've also exhibited racism. That's also terrible and I'm sorry people have encountered you.

That's exactly what you're asking people to do. However, the reason you're not hearing about the people who did it to you as often is because they aren't in this thread. You are. However, if you're wondering if people have a problem with racism no matter what color skin the person exhibiting has, look at any thread by Ny Nordland about immigration. You'll see the exact same reaction.

I always thought gook refered to the vietnamese, and chink to the chinese... or is it just asians in general :confused:

Anyway, here's how I look at racism. If you hate a race different from your own, that's racism. I think poking fun at a certain race's characteristics isn't really racism, it's just poking fun. No one should take it seriously, as it's probably not meant to hurt anyone's feelings.


Some use gook against all asians. Of course I never said I hated anybody.

Lets see, Hating someone because the color of their skin...which I never said i did. Can I talk to somebody else?

Um, no.

Racism - 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Right out of the Mirriam Webster Dictionary. Can you highlight the word 'hate' for me?

I understood exactly what you said. You've encountered some racists in your life. I think that's terrible. I'm sorry you encountered them.

You've also exhibited racism. That's also terrible and I'm sorry people have encountered you.

That's exactly what you're asking people to do. However, the reason you're not hearing about the people who did it to you as often is because they aren't in this thread. You are. However, if you're wondering if people have a problem with racism no matter what color skin the person exhibiting has, look at any thread by Ny Nordland about immigration. You'll see the exact same reaction.


Can you point where I said I hated white people and or used a racial slur? I am sure I have never done that.

Can you point where I said I hated white people and or used a racial slur? I am sure I have never done that.

If that was a requirement for racism, you'd have a point. As it is, it appears what you have is a limited vocabulary.

Racism - 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Um, no.

Racism - 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Right out of the Mirriam Webster Dictionary. Can you highlight the word 'hate' for me?


Sure.


prej·u·dice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prj-ds)
n.

An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
A preconceived preference or idea.
The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.



there you go.:)

If that was a requirement for racism, you'd have a point. As it is, it appears what you have is a limited vocabulary.

Racism - 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination



Or maybe it's because I have the intelligence not use those slurs? I know plenty of slurs against almost anybody, I just refuse to degrade myself by using them.


Now there is no reason for you to flame me as I have not flamed you.

Sure.


prej·u·dice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prj-ds)
n.

An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
A preconceived preference or idea.
The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.



there you go.:)

Hatred is still not a requirement. You're missing it. Discrimination or prejudice is required, yes? And prejudice can include hatred, but hatred is not required for prejudice.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/prejudice
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics

You fall under 2a1, 2a2, 2b, 2c.

Easy breezy.

Some use gook against all asians. Of course I never said I hated anybody.
I'm not saying that you did, just giving my personal definition of racism. And I'm not calling you a racist, either.

Or maybe it's because I have the intelligence not use those slurs? I know plenty of slurs against almost anybody, I just refuse to degrade myself by using them.


Now there is no reason for you to flame me as I have not flamed you.
Saying you have a limited vocabulary when you don't know the definition of racism is not a flame. It's an observation.

Who is talking about slurs? Slurs can be racist, yes, but they are not the only thing that is racist. You are clearly being racist. You have a problem with white people because some individual white people mistreated you. If you don't realize that's racist then you HAVE a limited vocabulary.

I'm not saying that you did, just giving my personal definition of racism. And I'm not calling you a racist, either.


Good because I am not. Having a problem with a race and hating them are 2 different things. You can have a problem with somebody but not hate them. I have a problem with my sister, but I don't hate her.

It's CBS, you expected better?

"The story is true." - Dan Rather

Good because I am not. Having a problem with a race and hating them are 2 different things. You can have a problem with somebody but not hate them. I have a problem with my sister, but I don't hate her.

Hatred is not a requirement for racism. You have a problem with me because of the color of my skin. That's racism. You would be suspicious of me because of my skin color. That's racism. Hostility towards me because I'm white. That's racism.

Not realizing that your irrational behavior towards all white people based on the actions of a few is racism is because you don't realize the meaning of the term... That's caused by a limited vocabulary.

Edit: By the way, there are levels of racism. While you're brand might be mild, but it's still dangerous. People should be discouraged from mistreating people or judging people based on the color of their skin EVERY time they do it.

I think everyone should watch the Sarah Silverman movie and calm down. Well what are the quality anti-whitey insults then. I hear all us whiteys smell like wet dogs in the rain. There's got to be better than that.

How To Tell Japan And China Apart: Nuke 'em!


If thousands of people die, it's China.


If they send Godzilla after you, it's Japan.

Not Mothra?