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Love Sucks

Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 00:40
A few of you may remember my other board, a few weeks ago; but:


This friend of mine, whom I have a crush on, we have been friends for AGES; and, he's leaving for Florida (vacation), and I, for Princeton (College programme for the summer). I am, of course, a liberal, not to mention gay, atheist; moreover, he, a semi-conservative Catholic (love is funny that way). I love the guy and pretty much throw myself out in to the open (in both meanings of the word); he loves me back, physically, some days; though, he has been going through the courses with religion and sexuality -- you can imagine. Due to such, he has been avoiding me for a bit over the last week, since we did a few things the last time we were together (use your imagination.) I really just want him to embrace who he, inside, and not to put on a visage to satiate the Catholic Church. Worst of all, for me, is that he pledges abstinence -- and I am moreover a whore, so that really isn't to my advantage, in the least. What am I to do? :(


Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

P.S. I throw around the terms "whore" and "slut" lightly; I am not a prostitute. xP
Ifreann
21-06-2006, 00:41
Love Sucks
deez nuts.


Sorry, had to be done.



On the serious side, love is more blind than justice. At least justice has a guide dog or one of those sticks. Love has nothing. Love bumbs into something, has a vague feel about, decides it likes what it found and latches on like a drowning man.
Quandary
21-06-2006, 00:42
Love doesn't ask too many questions. That's why it can make so many amazing things work.

However, experience helps filter slightly better.

No predictions on this one but... which of the above is actually the core question?
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 00:46
Love doesn't ask too many questions. That's why it can make so many amazing things work.

However, experience helps filter slightly better.

No predictions on this one but... which of the above is actually the core question?


Did I ask more than one question? Point them out to me and I would be glad to clarify.
Cannot think of a name
21-06-2006, 00:49
Love Sucks
Well, if your lucky it does...




...aaaaannyway...

My last girlfriend drifted from the church when she started dating me. I don't know if she went back afterwards or not. I guess love doesn't care what kinds of imaginary friends people have...
Quandary
21-06-2006, 00:50
What am I to do? :(

and

Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

One sounds like help me now, the other more like help me next time.

Do you think you could make this work?
Pledgeria
21-06-2006, 00:51
What am I to do? :(


Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

TWO questions, ah-ah-ah!
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 00:52
Well, if your lucky it does...




...aaaaannyway...

My last girlfriend drifted from the church when she started dating me. I don't know if she went back afterwards or not. I guess love doesn't care what kinds of imaginary friends people have...



I had a feeling that someone was going to pull a double entendre on the word "sucks" :p
Ifreann
21-06-2006, 00:53
I had a feeling that someone was going to pull a double entendre on the word "sucks" :p
Hey, I did it first :(
Cannot think of a name
21-06-2006, 00:54
I had a feeling that someone was going to pull a double entendre on the word "sucks" :p
It is general...I wasn't even the first one, that was handled in the first response.
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 00:55
TWO questions, ah-ah-ah!


Rhetorical questions count? Oops, sorry. e.e
Pledgeria
21-06-2006, 01:00
Rhetorical questions count? Oops, sorry. e.e

LOL, nah, just in a Muppet mood.
Lunatic Goofballs
21-06-2006, 01:08
A few of you may remember my other board, a few weeks ago; but:


This friend of mine, whom I have a crush on, we have been friends for AGES; and, he's leaving for Florida (vacation), and I, for Princeton (College programme for the summer). I am, of course, a liberal, not to mention gay, atheist; moreover, he, a semi-conservative Catholic (love is funny that way). I love the guy and pretty much throw myself out in to the open (in both meanings of the word); he loves me back, physically, some days; though, he has been going through the courses with religion and sexuality -- you can imagine. Due to such, he has been avoiding me for a bit over the last week, since we did a few things the last time we were together (use your imagination.) I really just want him to embrace who he, inside, and not to put on a visage to satiate the Catholic Church. Worst of all, for me, is that he pledges abstinence -- and I am moreover a whore, so that really isn't to my advantage, in the least. What am I to do? :(


Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

P.S. I throw around the terms "whore" and "slut" lightly; I am not a prostitute. xP

If you truly love someone, you must set him free. If he doesn't return, blow up his church. *nod*






Note: My advice is rarely helpful.
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 01:09
If you truly love someone, you must set him free. If he doesn't return, blow up his church. *nod*






Note: My advice is rarely helpful.




I was looking for a more, umm ... legal? approach. :p
Quandary
21-06-2006, 01:12
I think I see something here... if he is avoiding you over a host of issues, find out if he is reflecting and perhaps try to talk through it with him. He'll know a lot better than the denizens of the internet.

Catholics do have a hard time de-programming. I've seen it so often on so many different issues. He'll need to find some way to bridge that gap. That's something you can't force on anybody, never mind how good your intentions.
Rasselas
21-06-2006, 01:16
Maybe he just needs some time to figure out where he stands with religion/sexuality?

Yeah I remember your last thread....did you talk to him about insecurities and sexuality and whatever else I suggested?

Can you see yourself being with him for a long time? If so, let him sort his head out. If not, get yourself a nice dirty atheist boy ;)
Iztatepopotla
21-06-2006, 01:45
Suck it up and move on? Has worked for me in the past.
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 03:12
Maybe he just needs some time to figure out where he stands with religion/sexuality?

Yeah I remember your last thread....did you talk to him about insecurities and sexuality and whatever else I suggested?

Can you see yourself being with him for a long time? If so, let him sort his head out. If not, get yourself a nice dirty atheist boy ;)



I did; we semi-fucked; then, he stonewalled me when I tried to talk with him. :/
Saige Dragon
21-06-2006, 03:18
A few of you may remember my other board, a few weeks ago; but:


This friend of mine, whom I have a crush on, we have been friends for AGES; and, he's leaving for Florida (vacation), and I, for Princeton (College programme for the summer). I am, of course, a liberal, not to mention gay, atheist; moreover, he, a semi-conservative Catholic (love is funny that way). I love the guy and pretty much throw myself out in to the open (in both meanings of the word); he loves me back, physically, some days; though, he has been going through the courses with religion and sexuality -- you can imagine. Due to such, he has been avoiding me for a bit over the last week, since we did a few things the last time we were together (use your imagination.) I really just want him to embrace who he, inside, and not to put on a visage to satiate the Catholic Church. Worst of all, for me, is that he pledges abstinence -- and I am moreover a whore, so that really isn't to my advantage, in the least. What am I to do? :(


Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

P.S. I throw around the terms "whore" and "slut" lightly; I am not a prostitute. xP

Go watch this together (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0150662/). I managed to find some meaning, some self-discovery in it and I can really not relate to the characters in the film, you two probably can.
Catalasia
21-06-2006, 03:18
I was looking for a more, umm ... legal? approach. :p
You can try that one involving the bowl of cockroaches, the peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and a Death Star....

*ahem*

Er, anyway, ... don't listen to my advice, it's never helpful unless your aim is to end up in a great deal of physical/mental pain/pleasure.
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 03:21
Go watch this together (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0150662/). I managed to find some meaning, some self-discovery in it and I can really not relate to the characters in the film, you two probably can.


I greatly appreciate the suggestion; but, which one of us is "friendless, sad, and secretly in love with Elin." :p
Catalasia
21-06-2006, 03:28
and I, for Princeton (College programme for the summer).
To pull this a bit off-topic -- when are you going? I have a senior year program there in later July...
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 03:32
To pull this a bit off-topic -- when are you going? I have a senior year program there in later July...


I'm leaving, in five days, for the Junior Summer Statesman Programme :)
Catalasia
21-06-2006, 03:34
I'm leaving, in five days, for the Junior Summer Statesman Programme :)
Ah. If we do overlap I'll probably be the only person you won't see, as I'll probably be spending most of my spare time on NS rather than socialising with real people... but such is the way of the Generalite. ^.~
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 03:38
Ah. If we do overlap I'll probably be the only person you won't see, as I'll probably be spending most of my spare time on NS rather than socialising with real people... but such is the way of the Generalite. ^.~


I'm there until the end of July; but, if you happen to go clubbing, look for me :p
Saige Dragon
21-06-2006, 03:39
I greatly appreciate the suggestion; but, which one of us is "friendless, sad, and secretly in love with Elin." :p

That's really only the premise for the movie. I'm not friendles, sad or secretly in love with anybody yet I managed to pull something from that movie. I just figure if the two of you watch it and understand it together maybe it can help both of you understand each other a little better.
Catalasia
21-06-2006, 03:40
I'm there until the end of July; but, if you happen to go clubbing, look for me :p
I'll try. :p

Although from what I've read of you our circles probably won't overlap much anyway. Still, if you visit the computer labs or internet terminals, look for high school kids playing NS....
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 03:44
I'll try. :p

Although from what I've read of you our circles probably won't overlap much anyway. Still, if you visit the computer labs or internet terminals, look for high school kids playing NS....


Will do :p
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 04:03
I guess that we should get back on topic >.>
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 18:39
Morning :o
Cluichstan
21-06-2006, 18:42
A few of you may remember my other board, a few weeks ago; but:


This friend of mine, whom I have a crush on, we have been friends for AGES; and, he's leaving for Florida (vacation), and I, for Princeton (College programme for the summer). I am, of course, a liberal, not to mention gay, atheist; moreover, he, a semi-conservative Catholic (love is funny that way). I love the guy and pretty much throw myself out in to the open (in both meanings of the word); he loves me back, physically, some days; though, he has been going through the courses with religion and sexuality -- you can imagine. Due to such, he has been avoiding me for a bit over the last week, since we did a few things the last time we were together (use your imagination.) I really just want him to embrace who he, inside, and not to put on a visage to satiate the Catholic Church. Worst of all, for me, is that he pledges abstinence -- and I am moreover a whore, so that really isn't to my advantage, in the least. What am I to do? :(


Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

P.S. I throw around the terms "whore" and "slut" lightly; I am not a prostitute. xP

So not touching this. :p
The blessed Chris
21-06-2006, 19:02
All I can do is give you my condolences. Love does suck, a lot.
Deep Kimchi
21-06-2006, 19:08
A few of you may remember my other board, a few weeks ago; but:


This friend of mine, whom I have a crush on, we have been friends for AGES; and, he's leaving for Florida (vacation), and I, for Princeton (College programme for the summer). I am, of course, a liberal, not to mention gay, atheist; moreover, he, a semi-conservative Catholic (love is funny that way). I love the guy and pretty much throw myself out in to the open (in both meanings of the word); he loves me back, physically, some days; though, he has been going through the courses with religion and sexuality -- you can imagine. Due to such, he has been avoiding me for a bit over the last week, since we did a few things the last time we were together (use your imagination.) I really just want him to embrace who he, inside, and not to put on a visage to satiate the Catholic Church. Worst of all, for me, is that he pledges abstinence -- and I am moreover a whore, so that really isn't to my advantage, in the least. What am I to do? :(


Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

P.S. I throw around the terms "whore" and "slut" lightly; I am not a prostitute. xP

Hmm. I'm a bisexual Pentacostal Christian and I do NOT pledge abstinence.

Find someone else, that's my advice.
Laerod
21-06-2006, 19:08
Why couldn't I have fallen in love with a self-confident gay atheist whore?

P.S. I throw around the terms "whore" and "slut" lightly; I am not a prostitute. xPWelcome to the real world. But let me ask you this: Is it worse to love someone you can't have or worse to no longer be able to love? I think there might not even be an answer to that. Love certainly isn't easy.
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 19:14
Welcome to the real world. But let me ask you this: Is it worse to love someone you can't have or worse to no longer be able to love? I think there might not even be an answer to that. Love certainly isn't easy.


The former is the ending turns out happily; the latter if the former does not. Anyway, it's not like we haven't done anything; I hate philisophical questions because you can't win at them.
The blessed Chris
21-06-2006, 19:16
Welcome to the real world. But let me ask you this: Is it worse to love someone you can't have or worse to no longer be able to love? I think there might not even be an answer to that. Love certainly isn't easy.

I do ask that regularly, and I would still rather love than either be loved, or not love.
Laerod
21-06-2006, 19:24
I do ask that regularly, and I would still rather love than either be loved, or not love.Yeah, except at the moment, I'm still too hurt to love or be loved, and I make do with casual sex. It's not as good as relationship sex, but it doesn't carry the risk of as much pain.
Native Quiggles II
21-06-2006, 19:34
Yeah, except at the moment, I'm still too hurt to love or be loved, and I make do with casual sex. It's not as good as relationship sex, but it doesn't carry the risk of as much pain.


All pleasure and no pain :p