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So. Where should the line be drawn? What is 'too far' when it comes to pornography? Is it, by definition, a degenerate practice that should be outlawed? Should pornographers be hunted down and murdered? Should they be venerated for expanding our collective minds? Should pornography be free? Is this topic just an excuse for me to draw attention to a variety of obscene practices?

Ah'm a confooosed.

I normally don't think of children when watching p0rn... that might be something for pedophiles.

I see no problem with porn what so ever. Sex prolly the most human thing in the world, so why all the secrecy & taboo?

Man. I wanted to do a poll with this, but I fucked up.

How irksome. Maybe I'll start a new thread, or something.

Man. I wanted to do a poll with this, but I fucked up.

How irksome. Maybe I'll start a new thread, or something.

Please don't.

So long as all involved are consenting it's fine.

You can edit in a poll, it's under "thread tools" or something.

God, I thought this was a thread condoning child pornography..

God, I thought this was a thread condoning child pornography..

So you jumped right in to voice support? :eek:

So you jumped right in to voice support? :eek:
Something like that. :gundge:

Something like that. :gundge:

You wanted to shoot your goo everywhere?

Something like that. :gundge:

Sorry, I had to. ;)

So. Where should the line be drawn? What is 'too far' when it comes to pornography?

It goes too far when the participants are not consenting. Otherwise it is up to them. No matter how extreme - if some are willing to be strangled to death for a snuff movie - kudos and have fun.

The distribution of such movies goes too far if it is forced on people who do not wish to watch it, or if the campaign specifically aims at people that would not be able to deal with it - like e.g. young children. No hardcore DVDs with every happy meal please.

So. Where should the line be drawn? What is 'too far' when it comes to pornography?
What I think is too far is not something I will impose on others. Anything between consenting adults is fine.

Is it, by definition, a degenerate practice that should be outlawed?
By definition, pornography comes from the Greek word "pornai", which is prostitute. So it literally means "the depiction of prostitutes."

Should pornographers be hunted down and murdered? Should they be venerated for expanding our collective minds? Should pornography be free? Is this topic just an excuse for me to draw attention to a variety of obscene practices?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

Sorry, I had to. ;)
Heh, it's to be expected here. Nice.

You wanted to shoot your goo everywhere?
Indeed. Particularly my green goo.

Indeed. Particularly my green goo.

:eek:

Porn, like opiates, could be used to subdue revolts and uphold the peace. Or it could cause wierd problems, much more like opium, that render the society useless and incapable of performing civil duties and reproduce.

Porn, like opiates, could be used to subdue revolts and uphold the peace. Or it could cause wierd problems, much more like opium, that render the society useless and incapable of performing civil duties and reproduce.

I'd reply to this, but I'm going to check out some online porn instead.

Or it could cause wierd problems, much more like opium, that render the society useless and incapable of performing civil duties and reproduce.

LOL, huh?

LOL, huh?
That's what too much opium will do to you.

I normally don't think of children when watching p0rn... that might be something for pedophiles.

The only children I think of them watching porn are the ones I want to make with the pretty girls in the porn movie/picture.

As long as all the participants and watchers are 18+, and consenting, who the fuck cares?

The only children I think of them watching porn are the ones I want to make with the pretty girls in the porn movie/picture.
That made no sense to me but somehow seems wrong.

Let them kids get their own pr0n, I say. And keep your feelthy mitts offa mine.

As long as the kids aren't in the porn, there's nothing wrong with it.

If people don't like porn, then they don't have to watch it.

There are certain 'catagories' which should be and in fact are illegal such as 'snuff' and 'child'.

I'm okay with other people viewing porn as long as:
a) no children involved
b) all "actors" or "models" know what they're getting into
c) no silly popups appear on my computer, exposing naked bodies to my virginal eyes.

There is nothing wrong with porn.It is just human nature to be attracted to such things.If kids see stuff like porn its the parents fault for not suppervisiing there children.

There are certain 'catagories' which should be and in fact are illegal such as 'snuff' and 'child'.

Child I agree with. But why should snuff be forbidden between consenting adults ?

Child I agree with. But why should snuff be forbidden between consenting adults ?
Same reason why you can't sign a contract in which you allow someone to kill you. It's illegal.

But if a child is on the internet and porn pops up and the child thinks to him/herself, "What's that?" And then they proceed to discover porn and then watch and buy it regularly like a sick madman...

...That's kinda against the child's consent, no?

And sex without consent is rape, so all those porn companies are raping like 50 million kids every day!!!!!!

Is it a degenerate practice that should be outlawed? Should pornographers be hunted down and murdered? Should they be venerated for expanding our collective minds?
1. :Yes.

2. :Yes.

3. :Yes.

In other words, Yes to all three.

But if a child is on the internet and porn pops up and the child thinks to him/herself, "What's that?" And then they proceed to discover porn and then watch and buy it regularly like a sick madman...

...That's kinda against the child's consent, no?

And sex without consent is rape, so all those porn companies are raping like 50 million kids every day!!!!!!

Hardly.

Maybe certain parents should stop leaving their kids alone in front of a network filled with all manner of nasty things as a substitute babysitter and actually supervise their child's internet use.

You know, actually being a parent to their child. It's a bit of a wild idea, I know.

Same reason why you can't sign a contract in which you allow someone to kill you. It's illegal.

Yes, but I do not see why that should be so. I personally would probably not understand the persons full rationale to get killed for real on tape, but surely it is *their* life to end ?
Yes, I take the rights of the individual quite far.

So. Where should the line be drawn? What is 'too far' when it comes to pornography? Is it, by definition, a degenerate practice that should be outlawed? Should pornographers be hunted down and murdered? Should they be venerated for expanding our collective minds? Should pornography be free? Is this topic just an excuse for me to draw attention to a variety of obscene practices?

Ah'm a confooosed.
Porn needs to be mainstreamed so that there can exist a decent continuum. Right now all I can find is boring "soft core" where a woman humps a guys stomach for a few minutes to something akin to an Enya tune, or something that makes me think that porno camera men should have to be certified OB/GYN's in order to do their jobs. And what's with the shaving? Call me crazy, but I don't like women to look like 9 year olds with boob jobs.

Both are decidedly unsexy.

If people weren't so bent out of shape about it then perhaps we could have porn like in the 70's and 80's, except with good looking people. By people of course I mean the anti-porn people. It can be fun when the porn stars get bent out of shape.

I normally don't think of children when watching p0rn... that might be something for pedophiles.
Ah damn. I wanted to say that.

1. :Yes.

2. :Yes.

3. :Yes.

In other words, Yes to all three.

I don't know...

Something seems wrong when you try to answer affirmitivly to an anti-porn question with "Yes yes yes." :confused:

I'll 'think of the children' on X once someone proves that X is actually harmful to children. Do it and you've got my support. Until that day, keep your filthy moralist hands off of X, whatever X may be in the situation.

Seems like a proper solution to me.

That made no sense to me but somehow seems wrong.

Step 1: I look at porn.
Step 2: I see pretty ladies. (16+ in Holland)
Step 3: I want to hae snoo-snoo with them.
Step 4: Snoo-Snoo can result in babies.
Step 5: I think of those babies.

Step 1: I look at porn.
Step 2: I see pretty ladies. (16+ in Holland)
Step 3: I want to hae snoo-snoo with them.
Step 4: Snoo-Snoo can result in babies.
Step 5: I think of those babies.
For some reason I pictured you thinking about the babies um, having snoo-snoo with the pretty ladies. No offense intended. I'm not saying you're a pedophile. The grammar just confused me a bit.

Y'see, it's words like "snoo-snoo" that have this world in the mess that it's in.

For some reason I pictured you thinking about the babies um, having snoo-snoo with the pretty ladies. No offense intended. I'm not saying you're a pedophile. The grammar just confused me a bit.

Well, I am Dutch...

the porn industry makes over $50 billion dollars a year, so I think they can afford to put a limit on sales

But if a child is on the internet and porn pops up and the child thinks to him/herself, "What's that?" And then they proceed to discover porn and then watch and buy it regularly like a sick madman...

...That's kinda against the child's consent, no?

And sex without consent is rape, so all those porn companies are raping like 50 million kids every day!!!!!!

I'm going to ask what the hell you mean by "That's kinda against the child's consent, no?," and then I'm going to give my view.


No it isn't. The child was not forced into buying more porn, he (I say he, because I assume we are talking about visual porn) did it VOLUNTARILY. Porn has no addictive chemicals, therefore it isn't compulsory, and if the kid was jerking off to the porn, and bought more porn so he could jerk off more, then he's addicted to jerking off, not porn.

The kid has the ability to say "Hm, I don't like porn, therefore I will not watch it."

Porn--The closest thing to sex for people who will never get laid.

I see no problem with porn what so ever. Sex prolly the most human thing in the world, so why all the secrecy & taboo?

Because its also the most intimate and loving thing two people can do. The way the media portrays it, you'd think it was a pastime

I see no problem with porn what so ever. Sex prolly the most human thing in the world, so why all the secrecy & taboo?

I think you just summarized the whole issue behind sexuality.

Why fear that which is natural?

Because its also the most intimate and loving thing two people can do. The way the media portrays it, you'd think it was a pastime
To some people, sex is a pasttime. And that's perfectly fine, so long as all parties are aware what the other's feel on the subject. Just because you get an intimate, personal feeling from it doesn't mean that someone can't do it if that feeling would not result.

Lalalala censorship is bullshit lalalalalala..

personally I think porn is fine. So long as it follows basic rules.

1. All parties know what is going on. (this removes animals and kids from the equation)

2. The porn does not pop up at me while I am surfing the web or via e-mail. (limits are good, and eliminates the risk of kids who don't want to find it finding it)

3. People need to pay for it

4. the watchers need to verify they are above the age of consent (depending on the national age guides).

personally I think porn is fine. So long as it follows basic rules.... (snip)
...3. People need to pay for it

And what about when it is offered for free?

And what about when it is offered for free?

Then it makes p0rn a whole lot better. :)

Meh.

It's fine as long as all actors and viewers knowingly consent to it. That means if anyone under 18 (or 16, or 14, or 10, or whatever tha AoC is in your place of residence) wants to participate despite being aware of the dangers and everything, fine. That also means no pop-up ads of shock porn that would give PB regulars nightmares, no rape, etc.

I don't even watch porn so I don't particularly care.

As I said, meh.

Should pornographers be hunted down and murdered? Should they be venerated for expanding our collective minds?
Well, if those were the only two options available, I'd plump for the latter.












TBH, I'd go for the latter regardless. They are my GODS!!!!

It's human. It's a teacher for many of us when young, and onyl comfort when we're old. Just heep it legal and within reason. Meaning 5 midgets spanking a fat italian covered in thousand island dressing rocking on a rowboat in a storm with Phil Collins in the background is not appropriate.

My Patio: what kind of porn are YOU watching. I mean, c'mon, I'm not prudent...but Phil Collins. :headbang:

I think with these things it's always the same: consent and awareness. Notbody should be forced to participate or watch anything (and I agree, animals have to be out of the equation as well as kids). But then, I actually was 'forced' to watch my first porn movie...one of the elder kids brought it to school and popped it in (the VHS, I mean) during an unattended session. You can imagine that us 14 year old boys wouldn't move for a while afterwards. ;) Damn, I even remember the 'story'. Hahaha.

Generally, people should loosen up with the whole sex topic anyway. The 'making love' remarks are just a bit single minded. I have a long term girlfriend and I know what it means to feel that 'spiritual and emotional bond during making love'. However, I also know the fun when we f$%^. I like both and think both are part of having sex. Porn can be part of or inspiration for it as well.

In this sense: keep doing it and some porn once in a while won't kill you either. :fluffle: (hm, no humping smilies??).