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For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People

Because God didn't deliver the Isralites out of slavery, Moses did.

good point. cant argue with that.

"Long answer no with a but. Short answer yes with a maybe."

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People

whos to say he didn't. He didn't deliver the hebrews in the first second that they were enslaved.

I can smell a fire starting up.

also an argueless point.

that question is so wrong i don't know where to start.

Because God didn't deliver the Isralites out of slavery, Moses did.

okay so god sent a deliverer to the Hebrews to free them from the Egyptians

why didn't he send a deliverer to Blacks to free them from white people

okay so god sent a deliverer to the Hebrews to free them from the Egyptians

why didn't he send a deliverer to Blacks to free them from white people

Who said he didn't, there were figure heads in the struggle against racist opression you know. But then, maybe he doesn't exist.

Yes, he is a racist (well, the christian one is)

This is what started many problems in the world, because people believed their interpretation was correct and worth destroying others for. I would suggest not interpreting the bible as a factual event, but more of a lesson. It was not the fact that some hairy man took a group of militant peoples from the "Middle-East" region, out of the Egyptian rule; its more important that the hairy man decided what to do and carried it out to see his 'heaven' (if you will). Julius Csear conquered and enslaved many people, but its so long ago its not worth arguing about why this and why not. In the world there are those that do, and then there are no-doers (basically there is no evil). The easiest answer comes from the self, what do you think; some claim there was a hebrew of the African slaves, take all the northerners that supported the underground railroad and journey to freedom. For me, this is nothing more than a naming of an event, power, and belief that cannot be called anything by science other than God; people can only perform, God is merely power.

Who said he didn't, there were figure heads in the struggle against racist opression you know. But then, maybe he doesn't exist.
but ( im just going by what was in the movie) Charlt...er..moses said repeatedly that he was gods like messenger, and i wouldn't say any of the black leaders were religious prophets or deliverers because they never started a religion after freeing their people

but ( im just going by what was in the movie) Charlt...er..moses said repeatedly that he was gods like messenger, and i wouldn't say any of the black leaders were religious prophets or deliverers because they never started a religion after freeing their people

Actually, they were pretty religious towards the end, but that is irrelivant.

Yes, he is a racist (well, the christian one is)
And who are you to say that? How do you know that He even exists, or is a racist in event that He does exist? The Israelites were oppressed by the Egyptians, and the Bible's stories are parables. Think about it and don't be a ****.

And who are you to say that? How do you know that He even exists, or is a racist in event that He does exist? The Israelites were oppressed by the Egyptians, and the Bible's stories are parables. Think about it and don't be a ****.

During slavery the black people of africa were oppressed by the white people, did he save them? No.
And he exists, I wish he didnt, but he did...

What a foolish question... God is the creator of all races and the savior of all races. If God were racist, he would be predudice against himself. scripture says that God is no respecter of persons. research your subject before you step out
and reveal yourself

What a foolish question... God is the creator of all races and the savior of all races. If God were racist, he would be predudice against himself. scripture says that God is no respecter of persons. research your subject before you step out
and reveal yourself

In that case how come there are other religions in the world, if he created everything?
How come he didnt send the black people a savior?
How come, the christian white people enslaved the black people?

In that case how come there are other religions in the world, if he created everything?
How come he didnt send the black people a savior?
How come, the christian white people enslaved the black people?

1.Why can't there be other religions, he gave us free will aprently.
2.Maybe he did, how could you know weather the people who led the blacks out of slavery were not part of gods plan.
3.Because they went against gods will.

1.Why can't there be other religions, he gave us free will aprently.
2.Maybe he did, how could you know weather the people who led the blacks out of slavery were not part of gods plan.
3.Because they went against gods will.

Personally, if I was a god, if someone went against my will and started treating my other people like animals because of their skin colour, i'd have stepped in to stop it.
Yet he didnt, how strange...

God sent a man to free black slaves in America: Abraham Lincoln. Also, in the civil rights movement in the USA, Martin Luther King Jr. was at the forefront, petitioning for the rights of black citizens. He was a Reverend! The arguments I have read on this thread are for the most part uninformed and either ignore or show ignorance of facts.

Personally, if I was a god, if someone went against my will and started treating my other people like animals because of their skin colour, i'd have stepped in to stop it.
Yet he didnt, how strange...


Of course he did! Are there still black slaves in America that only you know about?

Of course he did! Are there still black slaves in America that only you know about?

Did he magicly appear and tell us all to stop it?

God sent a man to free black slaves in America: Abraham Lincoln. Also, in the civil rights movement in the USA, Martin Luther King Jr. was at the forefront, petitioning for the rights of black citizens. He was a Reverend! The arguments I have read on this thread are for the most part uninformed and either ignore or show ignorance of facts.
Take US History again, he only said they deserved equal rights, and there were actually many peoples involved in that one. That could be how it worked with Moses as well. Also, religion has become mostly irrational, and the people preaching their thoughts have corrupted most of what it actually says. The interpretation problem...

Personally, if I was a god, if someone went against my will and started treating my other people like animals because of their skin colour, i'd have stepped in to stop it.
Yet he didnt, how strange...

Ohhh, a pissed off athiest!

How original.

Because God didn't deliver the Isralites out of slavery, Moses did.

Of course you can argue with this! Moses was a poor public speaker (he stuttered), he was not confident in himself, and he was a murderer besides. To even suggest that Moses led the Hebrews out of slavery on his own is absurd. The only way Moses succeeded was because he followed the dictates of God. The Hebrews would have starved way before their 40 years of wandering were up had they been dependent on Moses; it was God who sent the manna and the quail. Moses was simply an instrument of God in Israel's deliverance.

Did he magicly appear and tell us all to stop it?

There's more subtle ways than that you know. Besides, that probably wouldn't have worked anyway.

Personally, if I was a god, if someone went against my will and started treating my other people like animals because of their skin colour, i'd have stepped in to stop it.
Yet he didnt, how strange...
God's a woman. Men dont really create, we're better at destroying.

All scriptural evidence points to one conclusion, that God is a douchebag. He has many inherent character flaws, racism would just be another one to add to his resume of bad features.

Whether he exists or not, God is not worthy of anyone's praise.

All scriptural evidence points to one conclusion, that God is a douchebag. He has many inherent character flaws, racism would just be another one to add to his resume of bad features.

Whether he exists or not, God is not worthy of anyone's praise.

Someone finally said it...

Read deutronomy, theres a verse (cant remember which) that talks about blood sacrifice, and you think he/she/it/they is/are nice?

Someone finally said it...

Read deutronomy, theres a verse (cant remember which) that talks about blood sacrifice, and you think he/she/it/they is/are nice?
Yes, but I'm very sure the Bible was written by people, not God.

Someone finally said it...

Read deutronomy, theres a verse (cant remember which) that talks about blood sacrifice, and you think he/she/it/they is/are nice?

Firstly I can't be bothered to argue with this crap, I will just say that a lot of the things in the old testement are rejected in the new testement due to the new convernent. The rules about stoning adulterers were made by Jews, for Jews. Even if the blacks were never freed from slavery, that wouldn't show he is racist, it just shows he hasn't intervined, like he has not intervined in many other evil things also.

Yes, but I'm very sure the Bible was written by people, not God.

Apparently guided by god.
And he asked for the sacrifice, it mentions the word god about 3 times...

Firstly I can't be bothered to argue with this crap, I will just say that a lot of the things in the old testement are rejected in the new testement due to the new convernent. The rules about stoning adulterers were made by Jews, for Jews. Even if the blacks were never freed from slavery, that wouldn't show he is racist, it just shows he hasn't intervined, like he has not intervined in many other evil things also.
Define evil.

God's a woman. Men dont really create, we're better at destroying.

what would drive you to say that, do you want to start a flame war?

Apparently guided by god.
And he asked for the sacrifice, it mentions the word god about 3 times...

Yes but then it was re-written by people who decided to make it 'convenient' for their lifestyle and culture.

Also, religion has become mostly irrational, and the people preaching their thoughts have corrupted most of what it actually says. The interpretation problem...

While this is occasionally true, many times it is not. If you want to really find out what "it says", without the problems that come from interpretation, you can read God's word for yourself and do the thinking necessary to interpret it yourself.

"Religion"... who cares about it? If the preacher is wrong, you don't have to take his word for it. It's a sincere belief in God and an acceptance of his gift of salvation that matter. The Bible is available to all who wish to read the truth for themselves.

Define evil.

If you must know, a subjective term to describe hatred an harm inflicted from people. It's called general knowledge.

Yes but then it was re-written by people who decided to make it 'convenient' for their lifestyle and culture.

re-writing and corrupting holy words? isnt that the worst form of blashphemy?

re-writing and corrupting holy words? isnt that the worst form of blashphemy?

And? They still did it.

While this is occasionally true, many times it is not. If you want to really find out what "it says", without the problems that come from interpretation, you can read God's word for yourself and do the thinking necessary to interpret it yourself.

"Religion"... who cares about it? If the preacher is wrong, you don't have to take his word for it. It's a sincere belief in God and an acceptance of his gift of salvation that matter. The Bible is available to all who wish to read the truth for themselves.
This brings up a good point. I don't think God has a true opinion in any tangible way. It is common belief that God is a spirit. Spirits are simply forces, some spirits are living, some arent; perhaps God fits in neither category of spirits.

re-writing and corrupting holy words? isnt that the worst form of blashphemy?

Welcome to my thoughts on the whole religion of Christianity.

Did he magicly appear and tell us all to stop it?

God doesn't just "magically appear" every time some cocky atheist says "There is no God!". He works through people to accomplish his will; take Moses for instance. In a previous post, I outlined how it was because of God that he succeeded in freeing the Hebrews. That is how God tends to work; he rarely just "magically appears".

This brings up a good point. I don't think God has a true opinion in any tangible way. It is common belief that God is a spirit. Spirits are simply forces, some spirits are living, some arent; perhaps God fits in neither category of spirits.

Of course God has definite opinions! He is good; he defines it. What God is is good. There is also evil in the world. God is clear in scripture where he stands on issues.

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People

The Jews were slaves of the Egyptians for 400 years before God led them out of slavery with Moses leading them.

Blacks were slaves in America for about the same amount of time or less before God led them out of slavery with Martin Luther King Jr leading them.

I know some will rip my conclusion however it is actually quite interesting when you think about the parallels. :)

If God was truely a racist, then there wouldn't be any black people on this planet.

God doesn't just "magically appear" every time some cocky atheist says "There is no God!". He works through people to accomplish his will; take Moses for instance. In a previous post, I outlined how it was because of God that he succeeded in freeing the Hebrews. That is how God tends to work; he rarely just "magically appears".
You should read Siddharta; Buddha recognized a self and a not slef. Those guided by one and not both often became no-doers. No doers were basically those that chose to not act, however acting is in itself a no-doers act if it is not for both. Hebrews were a militant group to begin with, there employment saught for by the Pharos, and provided by the Hebrews believing they would be used for war. Moses may have actually been a Hitler, leading his people to greater living space. I provide the fact that Moses claimed they his people, and the fact that both Moses and Hitler believed in violence to obtain greatness.

Define evil.

What God isn't. Think about it--that's a deeper statement than just a single "comeback". Everything that is evil is evil because it does not match the character of God.

i really heavy thought about it
i could think about rascism,thinking religion could helpt it,as well as democracy...
i just woke up to reality.and it still shit

What God isn't. Think about it--that's a deeper statement than just a single "comeback". Everything that is evil is evil because it does not match the character of God.

I could say god is evil for apparently "sending sinners to hell" and making them "spend time in purgatory" why all the suffering?

If God was truely a racist, then there wouldn't be any black people on this planet.
That sounds bias. Why not remove all colors and ability to see colors? How does a blind man judge by color? Perhaps god has no senses, and simply knows because of the inherint insanity required to maintain such a universe as this one. God still seems to remain truely undefined in the sense that this thread has been using it.

What God isn't. Think about it--that's a deeper statement than just a single "comeback". Everything that is evil is evil because it does not match the character of God.
So then they are only thoughts, and God and evil are an antithesis of eachother, this still does not explain how evil is anything beyond a bias, in its very sense.

God doesn't just "magically appear" every time some cocky atheist says "There is no God!". He works through people to accomplish his will; take Moses for instance. In a previous post, I outlined how it was because of God that he succeeded in freeing the Hebrews. That is how God tends to work; he rarely just "magically appears".

What about Jesus?

That sounds bias. Why not remove all colors and ability to see colors? How does a blind man judge by color? Perhaps god has no senses, and simply knows because of the inherint insanity required to maintain such a universe as this one. God still seems to remain truely undefined in the sense that this thread has been using it.
It's not biased. It's the truth. A racist person doesn't like a culture or skin colour. Now, if God was racist, he has the power to eliminate all black people. Being blind is irrelevant to this.

God's a woman. Men dont really create, we're better at destroying.

Only a woman would be stupid enough to blurt out nonsense like that. Alright deary, cramps kicking in a bit, you just go and have a nice cup of tea and put your feet up.


For a start the Jews are Gods chosen people, that's why he freed them from slavery. The Catholic church maintains as dogmatic article of faith that the Jews are Gods chosen people and everyone eles is a gentile.

In the 15th and 16th centuries slaves were imported from Europe to North Africa. Slave-taking persisted into the 19th century when Barbary pirates would capture ships and enslave the crew. In all, about 1.5 million Europeans were transported to the Barbary Coast. It was a period when Europe was preoccupied by sectarian wars and European navies were depleted. The trade was run by expelled Moors and the slaving expeditions were often captained by Europeans with North African crews. In the early 19th century, European powers started to take action to free Christian slaves. The first major action was the bombardment of Algiers in 1816.

This is why today you get Arabs with blue eyes or red hair.

okayyy.... who's to say that Moses and Jesus etc were white?

I'm an aethiest but, the bible says that:

They both lived in Africa.

They both spent periods of time in the desert.

The image of them both as white (and often blonde haired) men is an idea perpetuated by the Catholic Church in the Vatican, The Church Of England and Hollywood. If they had been this blond haired, blue eyed and white stereotype then they would have looked like lobsters inside a week.

Not that it makes any difference, the militant, rascist and deeply suspicious churchs of the world will not accept the idea of a these Africans might have been black.

It's not biased. It's the truth. A racist person doesn't like a culture or skin colour. Now, if God was racist, he has the power to eliminate all black people. Being blind is irrelevant to this.
So why no Black people? Why not remove all colors because they are not God's color?

Jesus was from Nazarith, not in Africa. They propably looked more Beduoion.

I provide the fact that Moses claimed they his people, and the fact that both Moses and Hitler believed in violence to obtain greatness.

Moses did not seek greatness;he was being obedient to God.

Violence is sometimes necessary to bring about peace. If you reject violence in its entirety then you are making yourself available to every brute or tyrant who comes your way. In your attempts to appease evil you will voluntarily offer yourself as a slave. To reject violence as a means of peace is to welcome enslavement and brutality. It sounds to me you're just waiting for someone to control you. Violence is never something we should enjoy, but it is a tool towards attaining freedom. Do you think England would have let the USA just leave an become a country? No, of course they didnt. We first tried peaceful tactics, but when those failed it was necessary to employ violence--i. e. the revolutionary war--in order to gain freedom. Freedom is not free.

I've always wondered why Jesus is always depicted as a White male with brown hair/eyes... and if he is the son of god, why is does he look a particular way... :confused:

Does it make any difference to this argument, that the majority (probably the vast majority) of black slaves were "owned" by black people? I think there's a tendancy to forget that even in the nineteenth century, the Americans weren't the only nation with slavery.

So why no Black people? Why not remove all colors because they are not God's color?

Jesus was from Nazarith, not in Africa. They propably looked more Beduoion.
Is this thread about God being racist to Blacks or not? It is. Don't try and twist it away from the original point.

Moses did not seek greatness;he was being obedient to God.

Violence is sometimes necessary to bring about peace. If you reject violence in its entirety then you are making yourself available to every brute or tyrant who comes your way. In your attempts to appease evil you will voluntarily offer yourself as a slave. To reject violence as a means of peace is to welcome enslavement and brutality. It sounds to me you're just waiting for someone to control you. Violence is never something we should enjoy, but it is a tool towards attaining freedom. Do you think England would have let the USA just leave an become a country? No, of course they didnt. We first tried peaceful tactics, but when those failed it was necessary to employ violence--i. e. the revolutionary war--in order to gain freedom. Freedom is not free.

So would one argue that Freedom is God? If so, the case would stand that God has no opinion over races, as it is claimed we are created in his image.

What about Jesus?

You obviously did not read the post to which you responded. the word "tends" inplies that there are exceptions. The word "rarely" implies that the event described does occur on occasion. God did appear as Jesus, and he will appear again in the end times. These are rare occurences, God usually does not simply appear every time there is a problem.

Jesus and Moses were Jewish. I suspect they looked Jewish. Like Jews in Israel look today. Not black, not blond, just Jewish.

So would one argue that Freedom is God? If so, the case would stand that God has no opinion over races, as it is claimed we are created in his image.


No, freedom is not God. Freedom is a gift from God.

Jesus and Moses were Jewish. I suspect they looked Jewish. Like Jews in Israel look today. Not black, not blond, just Jewish.
That stands to be incorrect, thanks to migrations, conquests and globalization. Jews are difficult to describe as a nation, or race, because it is a religion; I still haven't found one family that looked the same without imbreeding. This is why Monarchs were difficult to maintain, because imbreeding can increase paranoia.

okayyy.... who's to say that Moses and Jesus etc were white?

I'm an aethiest but, the bible says that:

They both lived in Africa.


Which bible is this?

I could say god is evil for apparently "sending sinners to hell" and making them "spend time in purgatory" why all the suffering?

God doesn't send anyone to hell. It is by rejecting his gift of Salvation that people go to hell. Purgatory, on the other hand, is a whole other dabate. I don't believe in it; it isn't Biblical and is more a tradition of the Catholic church. God's plan is for us not to suffer. That's why we have the opportunity to accept salvation. We simply must admit that we are sinners--that's easy enough, since we've all done something wrong--then accept that Jesus was sent to die for us. Once you accept his gift, you're on your way to heaven. So no, God does not send people to hell or delight in suffering.

God doesn't send anyone to hell. It is by rejecting his gift of Salvation that people go to hell. Purgatory, on the other hand, is a whole other dabate. I don't believe in it; it isn't Biblical and is more a tradition of the Catholic church. God's plan is for us not to suffer. That's why we have the opportunity to accept salvation. We simply must admit that we are sinners--that's easy enough, since we've all done something wrong--then accept that Jesus was sent to die for us. Once you accept his gift, you're on your way to heaven. So no, God does not send people to hell or delight in suffering.
All life is sufering; that is why the christians believed there was another realm after this one, without suffering; and for those that did not believe, continued to suffer. Personally I don't think either case matters, since we all end up in the dirt in the end, I think the real suffering is embolming the dead.

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People


The Hebrews were his 'chosen people'.

God doesn't send anyone to hell. It is by rejecting his gift of Salvation that people go to hell. Purgatory, on the other hand, is a whole other dabate. I don't believe in it; it isn't Biblical and is more a tradition of the Catholic church. God's plan is for us not to suffer. That's why we have the opportunity to accept salvation. We simply must admit that we are sinners--that's easy enough, since we've all done something wrong--then accept that Jesus was sent to die for us. Once you accept his gift, you're on your way to heaven. So no, God does not send people to hell or delight in suffering.

But if we are all sinners, then wouldn't there have to be some sort of definition of how wicked a sinner must be brought into Hell?
Wouldn't God have to set such a boundary on the sinner's sins who come into Heaven so he doesn't let the 'evil' inside?

All life is sufering; that is why the christians believed there was another realm after this one, without suffering; and for those that did not believe, continued to suffer. Personally I don't think either case matters, since we all end up in the dirt in the end, I think the real suffering is embolming the dead.

Next I suppose you will suggest that suffering is caused by desire, that suffering can be stopped, and that it can be stopped by ceasing to desire. You're simply spouting the elementary beliefs of Bhuddism.

Consider this, though:

Christianity offers meaning in life through our relationship with God. Buddhism says life is futile and pointless; either improve your karma or get off the wheel.

Christianity offers the forgiveness of sins; there is a real sin problem we face.
Buddhism only has karmic cause and effect that affects your future suffering.

Christians find peace by accepting God's love and care in His sovereign control. Buddhists find peace by accepting that life is meaningless and is an illusion.


Christianity offers much better alternatives to Bhuddism. We are not simply poliwogs in the mud, going to die and then stop. You can spend eternity in heaven. Think about it.

But if we are all sinners, then wouldn't there have to be some sort of definition of how wicked a sinner must be brought into Hell?
Wouldn't God have to set such a boundary on the sinner's sins who come into Heaven so he doesn't let the 'evil' inside?

No, the Christian God's only requirement for entry into his special clubhouse (ie Heaven), is that the person accepts Jesus into their hearts before they die. That's the only thing asked.

Now, imagine all the millions and millions of... well, twats, over the years who have been Christian. Who have caused inconsolable harm to their fellow man, but who died asking Jesus to forgive them, they are in Heaven. But if you have at any time rejected Jesus, no matter how good you were, to Hell you go.

Hardly seems fair, indeed, it hardly seems like a system that anyone other than a psychopath would invent.

No, the Christian God's only requirement for entry into his special clubhouse (ie Heaven), is that the person accepts Jesus into their hearts before they die. That's the only thing asked.

Now, imagine all the millions and millions of... well, twats, over the years who have been Christian. Who have caused inconsolable harm to their fellow man, but who died asking Jesus to forgive them, they are in Heaven. But if you have at any time rejected Jesus, no matter how good you were, to Hell you go.

Hardly seems fair, indeed, it hardly seems like a system that anyone other than a psychopath would invent.


The wages of sin is death. Any sin, be it a lie, murder, or adulterous act, is enough to earn you a ticket into hell. Yes, all you have to do is ask for forgiveness and repent of your sins. This is called mercy. Ever heard the song "Amazing Grace"? The writer of that song was a slave trader. He realized how wrong he had been and accepted God. He admits he was a wretch, but then talks of how he was redeemed and forgiven.

The "system" is more than fair. You are given, for free, the offer of salvation. You accept, you go to heaven. You reject it, you go to hell. So why would you reject it?

okay so god sent a deliverer to the Hebrews to free them from the Egyptians

why didn't he send a deliverer to Blacks to free them from white people


He did.

Her name was Harriet Tubman.

God has only given us our spirits. Nothing else, stop thinking god freed the slaves, or god causes hurricanes. You religious and anti-religious people are all fucking stupid.

And by the way, all those bible stories are FICTION. They are not prophecies, it is just a guideline to live life.

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People
Yes, the OT god is a racist, and there is ample "scripture" :rolleyes: to support that.
But it also took plenty of opportunities to annihilate almost everything it supposedly created anyway.

God has only given us our spirits. Nothing else, stop thinking god freed the slaves, or god causes hurricanes. You religious and anti-religious people are all fucking stupid.

And by the way, all those bible stories are FICTION. They are not prophecies, it is just a guideline to live life.

Oh, thanks for clearing all that up for us.

I could say god is evil for apparently "sending sinners to hell" and making them "spend time in purgatory" why all the suffering?

you could, and that's just the thing, you see he gave us free will. If we chose the wrong path, we lead ourselves to destruction, plus purgatory isn't real, it was just a method to obtain $ for the Catholic Church. People were scared of it, so they bought little pieces of paper that they thought could save them from it.

plus purgatory isn't real, it was just a method to obtain $ for the Catholic Church. People were scared of it, so they bought little pieces of paper that they thought could save them from it.
Uhm, the catholic church officially disavowed the "purgatory" state last year. Wouldn't work out with their agenda.

Uhm, the catholic church officially disavowed the "purgatory" state last year. Wouldn't work out with their agenda.

I was just explaining purgatory to Ninipapa, not saying that it still is believed, that was not my point.

I was just explaining purgatory to Ninipapa, not saying that it still is believed, that was not my point.
Ah - okie. :)

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People

its just a book written to explain things in a more practical manner than sacrificing people to weather gods to make your crops grow

its just a book written to explain things in a more practical manner than sacrificing people to weather gods to make your crops grow

That's basically it, Jesus spread his word.

its just a book written to explain things in a more practical manner than sacrificing people to weather gods to make your crops grow
Not really. There's many examples in the same material, the old testament, where god demands sacrifices for appeasement and for prospering, so not much difference at all, really.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/22.html#2

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/20.html#24

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/24.html#5

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/29.html#11

Either way, go ahead and give it a shot any day, and see how truly practical the OT was in such fashion.

If you want more, give me a digitickle.

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People

Because God decided to fulfill a promise He had made to Abraham a few centuries before.

Or, because God needed the Jews to fulfill their role of being a "light unto the nations" by giving them the Torah.

Or, because God acts randomly and His decisions are totally arbitrary.

That's basically it, Jesus spread his word.
No, that's not it - Jesus COULDN'T BE the "christ" w/out also being a practicing Jew, as well, requiring YES THE SAME GOD from the OT in order to qualify the whole thing. So no, that's not "basically" it.
Besides, it wasn't just "jesus" - it was Mithra and Horus as well.

Or, because God acts randomly and His decisions are totally arbitrary.
WooT!
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Do you think England would have let the USA just leave an become a country? No, of course they didnt. We first tried peaceful tactics, but when those failed it was necessary to employ violence--i. e. the revolutionary war--in order to gain freedom. Freedom is not free.

This is a bit off topic but England has let a number of colonies become independant nations. If you need an example, look to your northern neighbors(Canada).

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People

Set down the crackpipe.

God had the civil war occur when it did, and look what happened. IIRC the blacks in America were in slavery for LESS time than the hebrews in egypt. 300 years, at most, compared to the 450+ years in egypt for the jews.

And secondly, God is NO respecter of persons. If myself, a lowly middle class landscaping contractor, and the pope were to die without christ, we would both be sentenced to an eternity in hell. Once again, God is no respecter of age, gender, or justabout anything...

Wow, I never knew I was so... Godlike.

For all you people who have read the bible...and stuff...

I recently watched that Charlton Heston movie, The Ten Commandments in my World Religions class and a began thinking that if god delivered the Hebrews out of slavery why didn't he do it for Black People


Heheh shit remeber that this is just one concept of God. There are shit loads around take ya pick.

Heheh shit remeber that this is just one concept of God. There are shit loads around take ya pick.Yups. Norse mythos is far more compelling than the Abrahamic rubbish. What's not to like about a religion based on beer, sex & head stomping?

And there's an added bonus: if you disbelieve Asatru, but turn out to be wrong, the gods won't treat you any differently. Like any decent beings, they judge you by your way of life, not by your lack of information.

I don't believe in anything supernatural what so ever, but I'd be pleasantly surprised to get picked up by a Valkyrie. I wonder if they'll be serving vegan dishes in Valhalla?

Yups. Norse mythos is far more compelling than the Abrahamic rubbish. What's not to like about a religion based on beer, sex & head stomping?

And there's an added bonus: if you disbelieve Asatru, but turn out to be wrong, the gods won't treat you any differently. Like any decent beings, they judge you by your way of life, not by your lack of information.... or gullibility.

I wonder if they'll be serving vegan dishes in Valhalla?If giant chunks of meat is vegan. I suppose it's all spirit chunks of meat though so no real creature had to die.