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ok.... who here agrees that there are too many yellow and red cards goin around this World Cup? anyone disagree?

ok.... who here agrees that there are too many yellow and red cards goin around this World Cup? anyone disagree?

I don't think anyone on the planet disagrees.

I don't think anyone on the planet disagrees.
Guess I'm not on this planet, then.

ok.... who here agrees that there are too many yellow and red cards goin around this World Cup? anyone disagree?
Just don't blame the referees, they're only enforcing the stricter FIFA rules on cards.

Yellow cards for diving, pulling shirts/pants, bigmouthing, timeplay, not waiting till the ball is free again - not to mention stupid fouls and unnecessary rough play.

The trainers and players have been informed about this stricter enforcement of the rules before the tournament started and yet they still manage to screw it up and receive lots of cards. Now, honestly, whose fault is that, mmh?

Guess I'm not on this planet, then.

Bloody Martians... :p

From what I’ve seen, most of the cards have been justified. I’m certainly pleased by the crackdown on diving…

Guess I'm not on this planet, then.


Just don't blame the referees, they're only enforcing the stricter FIFA rules on cards.

Yellow cards for diving, pulling shirts/pants, bigmouthing, timeplay, not waiting till the ball is free again - not to mention stupid fouls and unnecessary rough play.

The trainers and players have been informed about this stricter enforcement of the rules before the tournament started and yet they still manage to screw it up and receive lots of cards. Now, honestly, whose fault is that, mmh?

I would say the players :D

too many yellow cards in the France/Korea game

but i havent noticed in other games as of late (i havent been able to see many games either)

Its a joke. Diving; well, if you're stuupid enough to get caught, you deserve a card. But as for "dissent", that's bollocks. Why should players not be allowed to express their disagreement? They are fined if they do so externally, and banned if they do so on the field. Playing on after one hears a whistle is natural, since how is one sure that the whistle is the referees?

I like that players are getting carded for asking that other players get carded. That's a pretty cool one. It eliminates the chance that officials will be seen to have been influenced by the players.

I don't think that the seriousness of the foul should be determined by how badly hurt the victim is, though. Watch that the player actually did, not what he was lucky enough to have happen.

But as for "dissent", that's bollocks. Why should players not be allowed to express their disagreement? Well why should they be allowed? If the referee changes his mind then it's intimidation. If he doesn't it's unnecessary. And since it has a universally worsening effect on the game, I don't see any reason not to punish it.

I’m certainly pleased by the crackdown on diving…

That is the ONLY part of the increase in cards I'm happy to see. If anyone around the world wants the #1 argument from Americans as to why we as a whole don't like soccer, it's diving. They'll see someone take cleats to the nuts without flinching, and then when someone's hair touches them, they roll around and writhe in pain until they're taken off the field in a stretcher. Once they're off the field, they jump back up. Yeah, I understand the theatrics -- I played football/soccer for many years. But no American sport comes close -- not even basketball, for men screaming and crying like women, overreacting to any contact.

No, not even basketball.

We're not used to it, and we see it as unbecoming of an athlete -- we would like them to act like men whenever possible.

Its a joke. Diving; well, if you're stuupid enough to get caught, you deserve a card. But as for "dissent", that's bollocks. Why should players not be allowed to express their disagreement? They are fined if they do so externally, and banned if they do so on the field. Playing on after one hears a whistle is natural, since how is one sure that the whistle is the referees?

Its like in any sport. In baseball, you get ejected. In basketball you get a technical foul, in football, you get a 15 yard penalty. In hockey...well you probably will get a 2 minute unsportsmanlike conduct call.

Face it, its like that in all sports.

Bloody Martians... :p

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In hockey...well you probably will get a 2 minute unsportsmanlike conduct call.

I think football would benefit from something like that. Rugby has a sin bin; it would be a nice substantial penalty. If each yellow were accompanied by 5-10 minutes in the bin, we'd see less diving and dissent, methinks.

I think football would benefit from something like that. Rugby has a sin bin; it would be a nice substantial penalty. If each yellow were accompanied by 5-10 minutes in the bin, we'd see less diving and dissent, methinks.

Well diving is part of football for it is a good way to gain extra yards :D

yes there are to many yellow cards.

I'm glad the finally stopped the diving (faking an injury) but the rest is just ridiculus.

Well diving is part of football for it is a good way to gain extra yards :D

I like it for American football, too. In addition to yards, make the offending player sit out for 3 plays. I imagine playing an offensive series with only 10 guys would be quite a bit harder (since it frees up an extra defender to blitz).

I like it for American football, too. In addition to yards, make the offending player sit out for 3 plays. I imagine playing an offensive series with only 10 guys would be quite a bit harder (since it frees up an extra defender to blitz).

That would not make the game worth watching for diving in clutch situations can make or break a victory. Sorry but not for american football.

That would not make the game worth watching for diving in clutch situations can make or break a victory. Sorry but not for american football.

Not specifically for diving, but for any penalty. I think you'd see less holding, for example, if getting called for holding meant that the team with the ball had to go without an offensive tackle for 3 plays.

diving has been a part of soccer forever. no challenge to it, it happens all the time form the world cup down to club soccer.

apparantly, a studs-up shot to the face with blood is not worthy of a foul while a soft push is a yellow card.

refs are confused it seems.

Yes. There have been some really stupid fouls. Plus some teams are being unfairly punished whilst others get away with it.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/417227/754368

150 yellows in 32 matches. 4.7/match, compared to an average for the top four European leagues (over the course of a season) of 3.5/match.

However, the matches at a World Cup have more pressure on them than a normal league match does, so players play differently. Last season Chelsea lost 3-0 to Middlesbrough. Were pundits and fans seriously thinking that that result might lead to Chelsea losing the title - no. However, Ukraine lose 4-0 to Spain, and pundits and fans are suddenly asking whether Ukraine will qualify for the next round. Like I said, more pressure. Do I think that this explains a 33% increase in yellow cards? Not fully. When you take into account that referees have been told to crack down on certain offences, does that explain a 33% increase?

Yes.