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An umbrella group linked to al-Qaida in Iraq claimed Monday that it had kidnapped two American soldiers reported missing south of Baghdad, where 8,000 Iraqi and U.S. troops were conducting a massive search.

The group, called the Mujahedeen Shura Council, also claimed it had kidnapped four Russian diplomats and killed a fifth in Baghdad on June 3.

I understand the US soldiers part - but why kidnap Russian diplomats? Want to force the Russians to give you money and arms? I don't see the Russians as part of the "coalition" nor do I see them as involved in Iraq in any major way.

I understand the US soldiers part - but why kidnap Russian diplomats? Want to force the Russians to give you money and arms? I don't see the Russians as part of the "coalition" nor do I see them as involved in Iraq in any major way.


maybe they're just trying to piss off as many people as they can in the shortest time they can do it.

I understand the US soldiers part - but why kidnap Russian diplomats? Want to force the Russians to give you money and arms? I don't see the Russians as part of the "coalition" nor do I see them as involved in Iraq in any major way.
Russia's problems with Chechnya (sp?) may be the motivating factor. Just a show of support for their Muslim brothers who murdered all those children at that school last year.

Russia's problems with Chechnya (sp?) may be the motivating factor. Just a show of support for their Muslim brothers who murdered all those children at that school last year.
Chechnya is such a mess. Its worse than Iraq, and noone knows about it

Now they're involving the Russians even though they haven't done anything? This could only lead to another country entering the war if the diplomats aren't released. World War 3 anyone?

I understand the US soldiers part - but why kidnap Russian diplomats? Want to force the Russians to give you money and arms? I don't see the Russians as part of the "coalition" nor do I see them as involved in Iraq in any major way.


I hope if they really did get two US soldiers, we are able to get them back,intact and unharmed,really quickly.

I can only see them grabbing Russians as an attempt to turn the Russians against us.

I thought I'd read somewhere that Al Qaeda was starting to get involved in the war in Chechnya. Has anyone else heard this?

World War 3

i can see a massive war being underway in the up comming decades if not years. but i do not believe it will be called world war 3, that is if it has a name at all.

i think people will try and prevent calling another "world war"

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Welcome young n00b. The points you made were excellent :rolleyes:

Anyway this could prove to be a fatal mistake on Al-Qaedas part.

I understand the US soldiers part - but why kidnap Russian diplomats? Want to force the Russians to give you money and arms? I don't see the Russians as part of the "coalition" nor do I see them as involved in Iraq in any major way.
Because the Muhajadeen were the group that fought the Soviets in their war in Afghanistan, so they've got a bit of a grudge.

And they've got the US soldiers because the Muhajadeen are now really the Taliban.

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I've seen some pretty bad first posts, but this is by far the worst.

You win at losing.

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Welcome to the forums!

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Wow.

Anyway, I was reading the Wiki article on the Brelan Massacre, and it says that Russia believes that Al Qaeda was involved in at least the financial stage. I think it's safe to say that Russia is more than a bit pissed off at Al Qaeda already, and if Al Qaeda is involved in Chechnya, they probably see snagging Russian diplomats in Iraq as just a chance to get at Russians wherever they can. Something like the embassy bombings in Africa several years back or the USS Cole attack.

Wow.

Anyway, I was reading the Wiki article on the Brelan Massacre, and it says that Russia believes that Al Qaeda was involved in at least the financial stage. I think it's safe to say that Russia is more than a bit pissed off at Al Qaeda already, and if Al Qaeda is involved in Chechnya, they probably see snagging Russian diplomats in Iraq as just a chance to get at Russians wherever they can. Something like the embassy bombings in Africa several years back or the USS Cole attack.

Getting Russia more involved only benefits Al Qaeda.

Chechnya is such a mess. Its worse than Iraq, and noone knows about it
No one? Really?

World War 3 anyone?

It wouldn't work without a subtitle. I'm thinking:

World War 3
Everyone Hates Islam!

It wouldn't work without a subtitle. I'm thinking:

World War 3
Everyone Hates Islam!
I think it's more like "Militant Islam Hates Everyone, So They Get Their Asses Kicked"

I think it's more like "Militant Islam Hates Everyone, So They Get Their Asses Kicked"

... I can't see you getting hired as a film promoter any time soon.

I understand the US soldiers part - but why kidnap Russian diplomats? Want to force the Russians to give you money and arms? I don't see the Russians as part of the "coalition" nor do I see them as involved in Iraq in any major way.Might be the oppression of AQ's muslim brothers in Chechnya...

World War 3
Here We Go Again

Lets hope they treat their prisonerss better than we treat ours.

Lets hope they treat their prisonerss better than we treat ours.
What, like cutting their heads off on the Internet and al-Jazeera? Isn't that what they usually do? :rolleyes:

What, like cutting their heads off on the Internet and al-Jazeera? Isn't that what they usually do? :rolleyes:


You can torture someone just as easily in some hut as you can in cuba or abu ghraib.

No reason to saw off a head when they can follow our example.

double

triple

quadruple

five f-ing times

You can torture someone just as easily in some hut as you can in cuba or abu ghraib.

No reason to saw off a head when they can follow our example.

Umm - hate to break it to you, but these people don't take prisoners (military ones) and let them live - Guantanamo notwithstanding.

World War 3
Here We Go Again

World War 3
Everybody have fun tonight!

I thought I'd read somewhere that Al Qaeda was starting to get involved in the war in Chechnya. Has anyone else heard this?

The Americans in i-rawk WILL find their comrades and the guys who captured them. Although it remains to be seen whether it will be alive-I'd have to assume they are as good as dead.

Another point, WHY on earth did they surrender? You already know what they will do to you. Pull a grenade out and take some with you....

The russians have been at chechnya for years, ever since the breakup of the USSR. Alqaeda's been involved for a while.

On a side note, I hope russia beheads everyone of the chechen terrorists. Beslan, the two russian airliners...bad stuff.

Lyube man! Those guys rock!

What, like cutting their heads off on the Internet and al-Jazeera? Isn't that what they usually do? :rolleyes:


Looks like thats what they did this time. A video will probably surface soon.

Hopefully, by that time, the one responsible for the torture and mutilation of these two soldiers will have received their justice.