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Protecting other Animals from humans

Not bad
19-06-2006, 03:23
Is it ever proper for humans to kill humans in order to promote the welfare of other species


The poll question is the same as above. The word "species" did not fit in the official question area.
Europa Maxima
19-06-2006, 03:27
No. Respect for animals? Yes. Killing for them though? Erm...capital punishment is frowned upon even with regard to other humans. I'd love to see some humans die for what they do to my feline brethren, but alas, I do not give in to my baser instincts here.
Wyvern Knights
19-06-2006, 03:29
No it is not ok for a human to die for the bennifite of any other Species. Thats like saying kill Bob, so that butterfly can survive. Plain stupid.
NilbuDcom
19-06-2006, 03:36
Is it ever proper for humans to kill humans in order to promote the welfare of other species


The poll question is the same as above. The word "species" did not fit in the official question area.

Are you high on crack right now?
Not bad
19-06-2006, 03:38
Are you high on crack right now?

No.

You?
AB Again
19-06-2006, 03:38
Well, maybe, but only if it is suicide. You certainly don't have the right to kill another human, but if you want to kill yourself to protect an animal, I guess you have that right.
Neo-Mechanus
19-06-2006, 03:38
We should have respect for and protect animals but we shouldn't have to kill our own in order to do that.

(Btw, I'm the dip that accidentally voted for option 3.)
Brains in Tanks
19-06-2006, 03:51
Is it ever proper for humans to kill humans in order to promote the welfare of other species

I can think of examples where you could justify it, but only in the sense that saving animals also helps people. For example, if some mad scientist was going to release a virus that would kill all the cows in the world I suppose one could justify using lethal force to stop her if necessary because poor people in Africa with no resources but their cattle would starve to death.

One could also think of an extreme case that dosen't directly affect human survival but in which it could be justified. For example if someone was going to wipe out all the life on another planet one could justify the use of lethal force to stop them. Even though it might not directly be of help to humans, another planet's life is still worth protecting.

But on the whole I am specieist and value human life above even that of Chimpanzees and gorrillas. But if some prick was going around just shooting chimpanzees for fun, I'd want the police to stop him and accept the risk that it might require the use of lethal force to do so. So it's all a matter of the situation.
NilbuDcom
19-06-2006, 03:58
No.

You?
No.

What kind of a question is that though, killing people to save animal life. It's like those sickos in england who dug up a dead granny because of some poxy hamsters or gerbils or some such rodent.
Wolfensland
19-06-2006, 03:58
Yep. We suck. Should be extinguished from the face of Earth. This planet would be so much better without us.
Brains in Tanks
19-06-2006, 04:01
...This planet would be so much better without us.

How is that possible when I'm so sexy looking?
Potato jack
19-06-2006, 11:14
Yep. We suck. Should be extinguished from the face of Earth. This planet would be so much better without us.


You go first then.
Not bad
19-06-2006, 11:31
No.

What kind of a question is that though, killing people to save animal life. It's like those sickos in england who dug up a dead granny because of some poxy hamsters or gerbils or some such rodent.

The ALF? Yes it's that kind of question.
Compulsive Depression
19-06-2006, 11:34
A "Yes" answer could be something as inoffensive as shooting those poaching an endangered species.
Kanabia
19-06-2006, 11:38
A "Yes" answer could be something as inoffensive as shooting those poaching an endangered species.

Well, I don't believe in capital punishment, so I voted no anyway.

If said poachers were using lethal force in their own defence, it becomes an entirely different issue.
Swilatia
19-06-2006, 12:49
hell no.
NilbuDcom
19-06-2006, 14:04
A "Yes" answer could be something as inoffensive as shooting those poaching an endangered species.

This is some definition of the word "inoffensive" of which I was not aware. You can't go round killing people, for any reason. That's why the rest of the world is disgusted at the murder of all the Iraqis. It's not anti-americanism it's anti-murder.
BogMarsh
19-06-2006, 14:06
This is some definition of the word "inoffensive" of which I was not aware. You can't go round killing people, for any reason. That's why the rest of the world is disgusted at the murder of all the Iraqis. It's not anti-americanism it's anti-murder.

In that case I guess I'm not part of the rest of the world.
NilbuDcom
19-06-2006, 14:26
Definitely not. The rest of the world doesn't have so many airfix models and videos about the second world war.
BogMarsh
19-06-2006, 14:28
Definitely not. The rest of the world doesn't have so many airfix models and videos about the second world war.

I have none. *shrug*
Andaluciae
19-06-2006, 14:30
If the animal tastes good, it shall be eaten!
Saxnot
19-06-2006, 14:42
For serious ecological damage, I believe that prison sentences should be handed out; on the capital punishment front, though, I'm absolutely against.
Iztatepopotla
19-06-2006, 15:10
Just make it look like an accident.
Feklan
19-06-2006, 15:38
hell yea
Franberry
19-06-2006, 15:44
Is it ever proper for humans to kill humans in order to promote the welfare of other species?
Yes it is, the other species are not as strong or advances as we are. They are therefore "inferior" to us, and we should proctect them from harm, and if that harm is other humans... maybe not kill them, but throw them in prision for a really long time (like until they die)