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Right, I'm sure everyone is alittle bored of the USian debate.

So, how about we all vote on this poll (which will becoming soon if you can't see it) and tomorrow we'll see the results.

If the majority of NSG thinks using USian or USAian is ok, you can no longer get annoyed and comment on when they us the term.

If the majority of NSG don't like it, you can no longer us it in your posts.

Remeber, vote early, and vote often!

I'm the first voter, and I'd just like to say that anyone who opposes the term USian is a little bit arrogent for suggesting that the nation of the US is equivelent to the continent of the US

I don't give a damn. Use it if you want, and don't whine if it gets used.

I'm the first voter, and I'd just like to say that anyone who opposes the term USian is a little bit arrogent for suggesting that the nation of the US is equivelent to the continent of the US

I agree.

I wonder if the posts here could be used to influence people who are on the fence.

Wonderful. Another one of these assaults on good sense and decency dragging the forum through the mud.


WUSians (whiney united states) v. Children

OMG! Not another Usian thread/poll... this is getting really boring... :upyours:

Wonderful. Another one of these assaults on good sense and decency dragging the forum through the mud.


WUSians (whiney united states) v. Children

Not really.

I think "USian" and "American" are both inaccurate, since there are other Americas and other US's as well. So, I think something along the lines of "US American" would be better than both.

I think "USian" and "American" are both inaccurate, since there are other Americas and other US's as well. So, I think something along the lines of "US American" would be better than both.
or a USAmerican. it is shorten to USian. Its a term that should be allowed, I honestly cant see how its offensive.

I think "USian" and "American" are both inaccurate, since there are other Americas and other US's as well. So, I think something along the lines of "US American" would be better than both.

Sounds reasonable, but it's too long for the internet.

I'm the first voter, and I'd just like to say that anyone who opposes the term USian is a little bit arrogent for suggesting that the nation of the US is equivelent to the continent of the US

I am sorry, but the continent of the US? Do you happen to mean the continent(s) of America?

or a USAmerican. it is shorten to USian. Its a term that should be allowed, I honestly cant see how its offensive.

But it doesn't show that they are better than the rest of the continent, thats why.

So, even if you have a preference in what you are called, you have to put up with being called what others want to call you. My name is Melinda but if you want to call me dumbass, I have to put up with it because the majority wants it? Canadians are Canadian, Mexicans are Mexican, I'm an American, not a USian - My country is the United States of AMERICA, not Usa.

Yes, it should be.

I try to compromise by just using "US" as an adjective, though. "US citizens," etc.

I am sorry, but the continent of the US? Do you happen to mean the continent(s) of America?

Actually, what he said makes perfect sense. I'd call you a grammar nazi, but the guy you're quoting was using good grammar.

Well, is there a continent of the US that I'm missing?

Or did he mean the continent the US is on?

See, this is not really making sense to me.

Instead of all this knuckledragging muckraking and whining, you kids should just see who can post "postcount +1" the most before the mods get to the thread.

Same in the end.

If the majority of NSG don't like it, you can no longer us it in your posts.

Up yours - I'll use whatever language I choose, not whatever language you choose, or anyone else for that matter.

Up yours - I'll use whatever language I choose, not whatever language you choose, or anyone else for that matter.


Nope, this fellow here who is new to the forum has decided he needs a higher post count, so he started a thread aping ones he saw got lots of attention.

or a USAmerican. it is shorten to USian. Its a term that should be allowed, I honestly cant see how its offensive.
I don't think it's offensive either, I just think it's wrong to say that it's more accurate. USian could be used to refer to citizens of the United States of Mexico or the United States of Indonesia (as it was known from 1949 to 1950). Of course, most people won't use the term that way, but you could just as easily say that most people who say American are referring to the United States of America. In any case, I think it's best to just take the time to type US and American.

Nope, this fellow here who is new to the forum has decided he needs a higher post count, so he started a thread aping ones he saw got lots of attention.

Thats.... not... true..... honest. ;)

And, let us n00bs have our fun.

Well, is there a continent of the US that I'm missing?

Or did he mean the continent the US is on?

See, this is not really making sense to me.

What was said was:USian is a little bit arrogent for suggesting that the nation of the US is equivelent to the continent of the US

That does make sense- it does not mean "the continent which is called US" but mean "the continent that the US is in".

I don't think it's offensive either, I just think it's wrong to say that it's more accurate. USian could be used to refer to citizens of the United States of Mexico or the United States of Indonesia (as it was known from 1949 to 1950). Of course, most people won't use the term that way, but you could just as easily say that most people who say American are referring to the United States of America. In any case, I think it's best to just take the time to type US and American.
Yes but no one refers to Mexico or Indonesia as the United States of... so they are Mexican and Indonesian. The USA on the other hand is know simply as the United States. Thats even on their little name tag at the UN(it doesnt say America). thus USian is accurate.

USian could be used to refer to citizens of the United States of Mexico or the United States of Indonesia (as it was known from 1949 to 1950).
Actually, Mexico's full name is United Mexican States (Estados Unidos Mexicanos), and not United States of Mexico (Estados Unidos de México). And well, as for Indonesia, they only used the name for one year, fifty plus years ago. They're currently the Republic of Indonesia.

What was said was:USian is a little bit arrogent for suggesting that the nation of the US is equivelent to the continent of the US

That does make sense- it does not mean "the continent which is called US" but mean "the continent that the US is in".

Well then he should have clarified that. He used nation of the US, which surely meant nation that is called the US, and the continent of the US. Hence, the implication that he meant continent called the US.

Oh, and he spelled arrogant wrong. :p

Oh, and he spelled arrogant wrong. :p

Ill give you that. :p

If the majority of NSG thinks using USian or USAian is ok, you can no longer get annoyed and comment on when they us the term.

If the majority of NSG don't like it, you can no longer us it in your posts.

Remeber, vote early, and vote often!

*sigh*

No, we will not listen to such poll results, because most people here are not Americans. And the whole "you can't take the whole continent name for yourself, how arrogant you yanks are" is a bunch of crap as well. The name of the country is The United States of AMERICA. Thus, we are Americans. The whole world thinks of us as such, and no one gives a damn, except people who hate Americans and who wish to find another way to insult/harass us, or give another example of how we are evil arrogant sons of bitches. I have never met a citizen of Canada, Brazil or Mexico who wanted to be called American instead of Canadian, Brazilian, or Mexican. The whole issue is made up by anti-American sentiment. Now you have NSer's in Canada who think, yeah, they shouldn't take that name! When they don't want to be called Americans- they just want to throw something in the "evil Americans" face.

There is no such thing as continentism. Quit trying to make it up just because you want to bash on Americans. Isn't insulting the Shrub enough for you?

*sigh*

No, we will not listen to such poll results, because most people here are not Americans. And the whole "you can't take the whole continent name for yourself, how arrogant you yanks are" is a bunch of crap as well. The name of the country is The United States of AMERICA. Thus, we are Americans. The whole world thinks of us as such, and no one gives a damn, except people who hate Americans and who wish to find another way to insult/harass us, or give another example of how we are evil arrogant sons of bitches. I have never met a citizen of Canada, Brazil or Mexico who wanted to be called American instead of Canadian, Brazilian, or Mexican. The whole issue is made up by anti-American sentiment. Now you have NSer's in Canada who think, yeah, they shouldn't take that name! When they don't want to be called Americans- they just want to throw something in the "evil Americans" face.

There is no such thing as continentism. Quit trying to make it up just because you want to bash on Americans. Isn't insulting the Shrub enough for you?
There's a little thing called Freedom of Speech, you know. I don't use the term to annoy/insult people from the US, but just because I don't feel "American" is entirely appropriate. Whether you feel insulted or not is a different matter. You're American, yes, but as much as I am and every other person in the continent.

Right, I'm sure everyone is alittle bored of the USian debate.

So, how about we all vote on this poll (which will becoming soon if you can't see it) and tomorrow we'll see the results.

If the majority of NSG thinks using USian or USAian is ok, you can no longer get annoyed and comment on when they us the term.

If the majority of NSG don't like it, you can no longer us it in your posts.

Remeber, vote early, and vote often!
First and foremost regardless of your little poll I am free to be annoyed and comment on anything I like.

Second for every single idiot, yes idiot, complete and total idiot who thinks USian or USAian is sensible here is why it is not.

Oh and before I forget to the second poster in this thread....WHat the feck is the continent of the US? Stop speaking.

Now why USian is a construct of a half witted mind.

This means YOU.

The name of this nation is the United States of America, not US or USA.

We do not call European EUians and if someone does they are equally idiotic.

The last word in the nation name is American hence the term Americans--yes American also applies to all citizens of nations on both North and South American continents.

That however does not change the fact that the name of our nation is America.

People from the Republic of Ireland are not called ROIisians, people from the Democratic Republic of Congo are not called DROCsians(though that does sound kind of snappy), hence forth and so on.

Just because you are so completely dim witted that you can not grasp that hte name of the nation happens to be the name of the continent does not entitle you to change the name of the people.

Am I annoyed by being called something like USian? No, I understand even stupid people have computers. I pity you, and your families gene pool.

There's a little thing called Freedom of Speech, you know.

Yes, but if I went around calling everyone of African decent a '******', I would be forumbanned. The term 'USian' is NO different. It is used as an insult.

Yes but no one refers to Mexico or Indonesia as the United States of... so they are Mexican and Indonesian. The USA on the other hand is know simply as the United States. Thats even on their little name tag at the UN(it doesnt say America). thus USian is accurate.
I do believe the official name of the country is the United States of America, but I'm not going to argue on that point. I still think it's best to use US American. It sounds alright, it really doesn't take too long to type, and it shouldn't piss anyone off. That's all I'm trying to say. Of course, this is the Internet, so you can't really expect people to compromise.

Yes, but if I went around calling everyone of African decent a '******', I would be forumbanned. The term 'USian' is NO different. It is used as an insult.
At least I am not using it as an insult.

*sigh*

No, we will not listen to such poll results, because most people here are not Americans. And the whole "you can't take the whole continent name for yourself, how arrogant you yanks are" is a bunch of crap as well. The name of the country is The United States of AMERICA. Thus, we are Americans. The whole world thinks of us as such, and no one gives a damn, except people who hate Americans and who wish to find another way to insult/harass us, or give another example of how we are evil arrogant sons of bitches. I have never met a citizen of Canada, Brazil or Mexico who wanted to be called American instead of Canadian, Brazilian, or Mexican. The whole issue is made up by anti-American sentiment. Now you have NSer's in Canada who think, yeah, they shouldn't take that name! When they don't want to be called Americans- they just want to throw something in the "evil Americans" face.

There is no such thing as continentism. Quit trying to make it up just because you want to bash on Americans. Isn't insulting the Shrub enough for you?


USian is forum short-form, not a 'bash on' anybody. Get a grip. And anyway, a few more Prezzes like this turf-builder and you might as well change your name to 'Vespuccistan' or something.

There's a little thing called Freedom of Speech, you know. I don't use the term to annoy/insult people from the US, but just because I don't feel "American" is entirely appropriate. Whether you feel insulted or not is a different matter. You're American, yes, but as much as I am and every other person in the continent.
I dont use the term weak minded bastard to insult or harrass you.
I just dont feel that terms like peer, human being or equal are entirely appropriate for you. Weak minded bastard however suits you fine.

Yes, but if I went around calling everyone of African decent a '******', I would be forumbanned. The term 'USian' is NO different. It is used as an insult.
Warm regards to Gepetto.

At least I am not using it as an insult.

But if a little kid calls a black person a '******' because he hears his father say it, isn't it still wrong? You may not mean it as an insult, but it is still heard as an insult.

Well now. Let's review.

First and foremost regardless of your little poll I am free to be annoyed and comment on anything I like.

'Course you are.

Second for every single idiot, yes idiot, complete and total idiot who thinks USian or USAian is sensible here is why it is not.

Now was that really necessary?

Oh and before I forget to the second poster in this thread....WHat the feck is the continent of the US? Stop speaking.

Funny how you're so quick to defend your own freedom of speech, but see no problem with denying his.

Now why USian is a construct of a half witted mind.

This means YOU.

No, that would mean the mind who originally came up with it. Anybody know who that is?

The name of this nation is the United States of America, not US or USA.

Yep. You're a first rate geography student, I'm sure.

We do not call Europeans EUians and if someone does they are equally idiotic.

Again with the inflammatory comments. But never mind.

The last word in the nation name is American hence the term Americans--yes American also applies to all citizens of nations on both North and South American continents.

Glad to hear it.

That however does not change the fact that the name of our nation is America.

Nope. It's the United States of America, as you pointed out back up there. :rolleyes:

People from the Republic of Ireland are not called ROIisians, people from the Democratic Republic of Congo are not called DROCsians(though that does sound kind of snappy), hence forth and so on.

Just because you are so completely dim witted that you can not grasp that hte name of the nation happens to be the name of the continent does not entitle you to change the name of the people.

Am I annoyed by being called something like USian? No, I understand even stupid people have computers. I pity you, and your families gene pool.

So, do you have a problem with being called United States of Americans?

Yes but no one refers to Mexico or Indonesia as the United States of... so they are Mexican and Indonesian. The USA on the other hand is know simply as the United States. Thats even on their little name tag at the UN(it doesnt say America). thus USian is accurate.
Actually, according to the United States Constitution, people from the United States are "United States (US) Citizens" or "Citizens of the United States (US)". If you are striving for accuracy, please use the term that is mandated by law, and not some bullshit created to deride the Citizens of the United States.

USian was coined as a way to irritate US Citizens, it's just another way for those who oppose the US position as the dominant global power to snip at it's ankles.

Furthermore, a rough comparison is to the Bundesrepublik Deutschland. The BRD does not necessarily contain all of the people who are German in descent, nor does it contain all of the territories that have been considered German throughout history. Therefore, how arrogant must they be to claim that they are Germans/Deutsch. They should refer to themselves of BRers, not Deutsch.

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*sigh*

No, we will not listen to such poll results, because most people here are not Americans. And the whole "you can't take the whole continent name for yourself, how arrogant you yanks are" is a bunch of crap as well. The name of the country is The United States of AMERICA. Thus, we are Americans. The whole world thinks of us as such, and no one gives a damn, except people who hate Americans and who wish to find another way to insult/harass us, or give another example of how we are evil arrogant sons of bitches. I have never met a citizen of Canada, Brazil or Mexico who wanted to be called American instead of Canadian, Brazilian, or Mexican. The whole issue is made up by anti-American sentiment. Now you have NSer's in Canada who think, yeah, they shouldn't take that name! When they don't want to be called Americans- they just want to throw something in the "evil Americans" face.

There is no such thing as continentism. Quit trying to make it up just because you want to bash on Americans. Isn't insulting the Shrub enough for you?

:rolleyes:

Does the word USian in any way harm you? Is there any good reason to complain about it? Is it in the least bit arrogant to declare that the US is the only America?

If the answers are no, no, and yes, you have no grounds for complaint. TBH as an American I'm more offended by the assumption that we are all arrogant snots when we travel than by the use of a more specific name.

I dont use the term weak minded bastard to insult or harrass you.
I just dont feel that terms like peer, human being or equal are entirely appropriate for you. Weak minded bastard however suits you fine.
Heh. The little difference is that "weak minded bastard" is globally recognized as an insult, whereas "USian" is not.

Brilliant way to debate. Absolutely brilliant. I applaud you. :)

USian is forum short-form, not a 'bash on' anybody. Get a grip. And anyway, a few more Prezzes like this turf-builder and you might as well change your name to 'Vespuccistan' or something.
That is precisely how it is perceived though.

Yes, but if I went around calling everyone of African decent a '******', I would be forumbanned. The term 'USian' is NO different. It is used as an insult.


Its good to see that you think slavery, jim crow laws, government racism, &c &c is the same as some children on the internet who are trying to be annoying.

Stop whining about it and putting your foot in your mouth by saying these kinds of ridiculous, ill-considered things.

This kind of frantic whining is what keeps this mindless topic going. The question always remains: "Sure these 'usian' knuckledraggers are contemptable, but does the whiney response to it make their opponents even more contemptable?"

You've got to be kidding me, we're actually debating suchan asinine subject?

or a USAmerican. it is shorten to USian. Its a term that should be allowed, I honestly cant see how its offensive.

I genrally prefer to shorten "USAmerican" to "American" myself. No other nation in the Americas, that I know of, has "America" as a major part of its name, so it works.

To tell you the truth, I don't really care that much if you want to call us "USAmericans" or "USians" or whatever. I find it a little annoying for some reason, but nothing really worth mentioning.
Though I just did. :p

your All Stupid.

Well now. Let's review.



'Course you are.



Now was that really necessary?



Funny how you're so quick to defend your own freedom of speech, but see no problem with denying his.



No, that would mean the mind who originally came up with it. Anybody know who that is?



Yep. You're a first rate geography student, I'm sure.



Again with the inflammatory comments. But never mind.



Glad to hear it.



Nope. It's the United States of America, as you pointed out back up there. :rolleyes:

People from the Republic of Ireland are not called ROIisians, people from the Democratic Republic of Congo are not called DROCsians(though that does sound kind of snappy), hence forth and so on.

Just because you are so completely dim witted that you can not grasp that hte name of the nation happens to be the name of the continent does not entitle you to change the name of the people.

Am I annoyed by being called something like USian? No, I understand even stupid people have computers. I pity you, and your families gene pool.

So, do you have a problem with being called United States of Americans?[/QUOTE]
First learn how to use a quote box.
Second, since no other nations peoples are expected to be addressed as the nation...you will note my examples why should we?
And yes dimwitted does indeed apply to you.

Unless you are willing to either admitt that this is an arguement designed to single out Americans specifically or that you intend to start calling all people by the such a name, like Republic of Irelander, Democratic Republic of Congoleseian, or French Republicans.
So which is it? Another weak minded half assed attack on Americans or just that you intend on adressing everyone with this new form? Or are you just a stupid bastard? There is no other alternative.

your All Stupid.

You, on the other hand, merely have contemptible grammar.

your All Stupid.

Cool. Did you misssspell it on porpoise?

your All Stupid.I think you get the first place for your scholarly grammar and completely random use of capitals.

This is a case of hate/hate for me.

People who insist on using USian as opposed to, what I at least thought was an accepted term, bug me.

People who moan and groan about it afterwards 'till the cows come home...bug me.

I know I just made a contradiction. But I guess what I'm trying to say is...let it be. Live and let live.

That is precisely how it is perceived though.
So, what then - you gonna have a War On Perception next?

So, what then - you gonna have a War On Perception next?

You're either with usian or against us.

If you meet a person and they tell you there name is Bob and you call them Mark are you practicing Live and Let Live? Are you being intelligent? Or are you being a simple minded twit?

:rolleyes:

Does the word USian in any way harm you? Is there any good reason to complain about it?

For the last time, I fully support a person of African ancestry when they complain about being called a '******'. Or if an Arab complained about being called a towlhead or a Jawa, or any other slang insult. The 'good reason' to complain about it is that ethnic, racial, national, etc slurs are instruments of bigotry, which must be opposed at all times.

Is it in the least bit arrogant to declare that the US is the only America?

For what must be the millionth time, we have never done any such thing. The world has called us Americans for much longer than you or I have been alive. The United States of America is the name, remember? But you don't listen to reason, because all you see is a way in which to insult Americans. If you are one makes it even worse- as I have already said, continentism does NOT exist. It is made up by the PC culture as way to insult Americans, which I have already said I will not stand for.

Actually, Mexico's full name is United Mexican States (Estados Unidos Mexicanos), and not United States of Mexico (Estados Unidos de México). And well, as for Indonesia, they only used the name for one year, fifty plus years ago. They're currently the Republic of Indonesia.
Ah, this is true, but I was just trying to show how "US" could apply to more than just the United States of America. I don't think there are any current countries called the United States other than the United States of America, but there have been several in history. None of these countries were just called the "United States", and the United States of America isn't either. Anyway, my point's been made, I think.

If you meet a person and they tell you there name is Bob and you call them Mark are you practicing Live and Let Live? Are you being intelligent? Or are you being a simple minded twit?
I'm sparing my digits the burdensome task of unnecessary typing. USian gets across in five keystrokes what American gets across in 8. Aussie vs. Australian same deal. Canuck vs. Canadian.

It's not my fault all you USians are made of porcelain. Grow some already.

ACNAT why are even bothering try to explain your position as if the opposing parties care about it?

You are an American, the mere existence of this thread is proof of the bias against you.

You can not reason with people who already hate you just because of where you are born.
Or with people who hate you because you odnt hate where you were born as much as they do.

Just let it go you wont convince anyone of these people anything other then that they have succeeded in wounding a horrible American.

So, do you have a problem with being called United States of Americans?
First learn how to use a quote box.
Second, since no other nations peoples are expected to be addressed as the nation...you will note my examples why should we?
And yes dimwitted does indeed apply to you.

Unless you are willing to either admitt that this is an arguement designed to single out Americans specifically or that you intend to start calling all people by the such a name, like Republic of Irelander, Democratic Republic of Congoleseian, or French Republicans.
So which is it? Another weak minded half assed attack on Americans or just that you intend on adressing everyone with this new form? Or are you just a stupid bastard? There is no other alternative.

You see my friend, the Republic of Ireland being called Irish is a very complex thing which I doubt you fully understand, so you shouldn't be using it in an argument. Plus, France and Congo aren't continents.

And, why exactly IS it an insult to USians?

Btw, please stop calling us stupid bastards, thats no way to win anything.

So, do you have a problem with being called United States of Americans?
First learn how to use a quote box.
Second, since no other nations peoples are expected to be addressed as the nation...you will note my examples why should we?
And yes dimwitted does indeed apply to you.

Unless you are willing to either admitt that this is an arguement designed to single out Americans specifically or that you intend to start calling all people by the such a name, like Republic of Irelander, Democratic Republic of Congoleseian, or French Republicans.
So which is it? Another weak minded half assed attack on Americans or just that you intend on adressing everyone with this new form? Or are you just a stupid bastard? There is no other alternative.[/QUOTE]

Irony, anyone?

Second, since no other nations peoples are expected to be addressed as the nation...you will note my examples why should we?
And yes dimwitted does indeed apply to you.

That's really a shame.

Unless you are willing to either admitt that this is an arguement designed to single out Americans specifically or that you intend to start calling all people by the such a name, like Republic of Irelander, Democratic Republic of Congoleseian, or French Republicans.
So which is it? Another weak minded half assed attack on Americans or just that you intend on adressing everyone with this new form? Or are you just a stupid bastard? There is no other alternative.

Well, apart from the question of what my mother's virtue has to do with any of this, I personally believe that either term is acceptable. You can call yourself Americans, as long as you accept that the other people on the continent can too. In addition, if you feel the need to call people Republic of Irelanders, Democratic Republic of Congoleseian, of French Republicans, by all means you can. You can even cale them RoIans, DRoCers of FRench. (If you can pronounce capital letters loudly enough that people notice the difference).

Finally, I would suggest that you take a good, long look at your psyche to see what exactly the root of all this unnecessary agression towards the Generalites (or NSGians) is.

As a resident of the United States of America, I feel the only appropriate way to refer to my nationality is to say that I am a "Quizblorgian From Dimension 12B." Refering to me as "American" or "USian" will qualify as an offensive slur, and I will release the hounds.

I'm sparing my digits the burdensome task of unnecessary typing. USian gets across in five keystrokes what American gets across in 8. Aussie vs. Australian same deal. Canuck vs. Canadian.

It's not my fault all you USians are made of porcelain. Grow some already.
Why are you back peddling? Now it is because it is eaiser to but up until now the arguement has been it is logical and correct.

Which is it? A under educated short hand of a lazy European half wit or an attempt to right some wrong on the other Americans who not from the United States?

Grow a pair? Stick to one one arguement, be consistant in your convictions then come and tell me something about growing a pair.

I dont care one way or another if someone uses it, it lets me know the mental capacity of the person I am dealing with.

Like someone who cant type three extra letters.

your All Stupid.[/size]

You can't spell and WE'RE stupid?

ACNAT why are even bothering try to explain your position as if the opposing parties care about it?

You are an American, the mere existence of this thread is proof of the bias against you.

You can not reason with people who already hate you just because of where you are born.
Or with people who hate you because you odnt hate where you were born as much as they do.

Just let it go you wont convince anyone of these people anything other then that they have succeeded in wounding a horrible American.

Quite true. No matter how it is pointed out to them, they will just chuckle "arrogant USian". I am done with their type, and this thread.

As a resident of the United States of America, I feel the only appropriate way to refer to my nationality is to say that I am a "Quizblorgian From Dimension 12B." Refering to me as "American" or "USian" will qualify as an offensive slur, and I will release the hounds.


Quizblorgger!

Why are you back peddling?
This isn't back-pedalling, this is the core of my argument: convenience online.


Now, tell me again - why are you so uptight?

I'm always amused by the implied notion that somewhere there's a dude in Brazil going, "But how will they know that Brazil is in South America if the people of the US are called Americans?" It's really comical. Seems like a silly windmill to tilt at to me...

As a resident of the United States of America, I feel the only appropriate way to refer to my nationality is to say that I am a "Quizblorgian From Dimension 12B." Refering to me as "American" or "USian" will qualify as an offensive slur, and I will release the hounds.
I wholeheartedly agree. Only I'm a Schmoozlorgian From Dimension 19L.

You know, this whole argument highlights why Australia is so lucky.

They do have the continent all to themselves.

I'm always amused by the implied notion that somewhere there's a dude in Brazil going, "But how will they know that Brazil is in South America if the people of the US are called Americans?" It's really comical. Seems like a silly windmill to tilt at to me...


perhaps they should just call us CToaN

Hey, if this is all about convenience, why not use USAns? That's actually less letters that USians and the American part is implied, so it might make everyone happy. Or maybe not, I don't know.

I dont care one way or another if someone uses it, it lets me know the mental capacity of the person I am dealing with.

Like someone who cant type three extra letters.
It's not that I can't; I just can't be bothered. And if you think you can glean my 'mental capacity' (whatever that's intended to imply) from the extra keystrokes I forego, let me be amongst the first to congratulate you for your amazing talents.

Pillock.

You can call yourself Americans, as long as you accept that the other people on the continent can too.

What if I dont accept that other people on the continentS can too?
Does that mean I cant call myself American? As we have been for over 200 years.
Your post implies you have some type of recourse if I do not, I would like to know what that would be?



Finally, I would suggest that you take a good, long look at your psyche to see what exactly the root of all this unnecessary agression towards the Generalites (or NSGians) is.
Dont generalize I offered no aggression to thousands of Nsers, Only to the peope like you, and directly at you.
I need not examine anything i know exactly why I am mad.
The word is as post by ATCNAT a slur, just like ******, Heeb, Kike, Zipper head or any other.
I feel no need to keep my mouth shut while I am reduced by a label of anothers choosing.

What if I dont accept that other people on the continentS can too?
Does that mean I cant call myself American? As we have been for over 200 years.
Your post implies you have some type of recourse if I do not, I would like to know what that would be?



Dont generalize I offered no aggression to thousands of Nsers, Only to the peope like you, and directly at you.
I need not examine anything i know exactly why I am mad.
The word is as post by ATCNAT a slur, just like ******, Heeb, Kike, Zipper head or any other.
I feel no need to keep my mouth shut while I am reduced by a label of anothers choosing.

Then go cry to the mods about it.

I'm sparing my digits the burdensome task of unnecessary typing. USian gets across in five keystrokes what American gets across in 8. Aussie vs. Australian same deal. Canuck vs. Canadian.

It's not my fault all you USians are made of porcelain. Grow some already.
While I happen to not give a shit about "American" versus "USian," I have to take issue with your stated reasoning.

If you want, think of it like nicknames. Some people don't mind if you use a nickname for them (Jonathan becomes Jon, Elizabeth becomes Liz, etc), but other people prefer that you use their full name. Would you really be rude enough to continue using a nickname after somebody specifically asked you not to?

If somebody feels strongly enough about the "USian" thing to ask you to please not use the term, does it really cost you so much to be respectful? Sure, you may have to make a few more keystrokes, but is that really such a pain? Just don't use that particular term when talking with that particular person. If they choose to come into a conversation that you are having with somebody else, then they can suck it up and get over themselves, but if you're talking with somebody who specificially asks you to say "American," then why not just do it?

According to the more popular argument, the term "American" is for all people on both American continents. The United States is on an American continent. Ergo, there should be no issue with calling people from the United States "Americans".

I wholeheartedly agree. Only I'm a Schmoozlorgian From Dimension 19L.

And I'm a Batophlagastrinatorian from Dimension 29X-31.5Tr1C.

For the last time, I fully support a person of African ancestry when they complain about being called a '******'. Or if an Arab complained about being called a towlhead or a Jawa, or any other slang insult. The 'good reason' to complain about it is that ethnic, racial, national, etc slurs are instruments of bigotry, which must be opposed at all times.

It is only a "slur" in the minds of the hyper-sensitive. It is by no means belittling whatsoever. Unless you can show real examples of it being used by people with the sole intent of practicing racism by USing (:P) it, and it only being used in such a case, you're just making unsubstatiated claims.


For what must be the millionth time, we have never done any such thing. The world has called us Americans for much longer than you or I have been alive. The United States of America is the name, remember? But you don't listen to reason, because all you see is a way in which to insult Americans. If you are one makes it even worse- as I have already said, continentism does NOT exist. It is made up by the PC culture as way to insult Americans, which I have already said I will not stand for.

:rolleyes: Conspiracy theories are becoming of no one. Seriously. If anything, USian is a response to the arrogance displayed by using the name "American" as if we were the only ones in existance. Don't you fucking dare accuse me of "insulting" citizens of the USA, because I am one of them. It seems like I may be only person in the entire fucking nation not carrying a massive chip around on my shoulder on the issue. This entire issue is just people throwing a temper tantrum over a silly, but justifiable, name. Normally we get over that sort of thing in third grade.

"Teacher, Teacher, Billy just called me a stinkyhead!"

perhaps they should just call us CToaN
Hehe, not a bad idea...but wait, then what would that make me? All of a sudden people would start refering to me as CTian because it's arrogant of me to think that I was the only one who couldn't come up with a name, and what of all the other people who couldn't come up with one but phrased it their own way-they couldn't think of a name too and I shouldn't be so self absorbed as to take thier lack of a name for myself...

Hey, if this is all about convenience, why not use USAns? That's actually less letters that USians and the American part is implied, so it might make everyone happy. Or maybe not, I don't know.
If the arguement had been stated about convience from the jump I wouldnt have a problem with anything, USer, Uni, whatever...but it wasnt.
It was about us being WRONG for being called Americans.
The convience arguement is a back peddle.

Would you really be rude enough to continue using a nickname after somebody specifically asked you not to?

Knowing Dobbs, I'd say the answer to this question would be "yes".

Don't you fucking dare accuse me of "insulting" citizens of the USA, because I am one of them.

So I guess the KKK isn't insulting anybody who doesn't have white skin, simply because they're in the same country.

Owned.

First, I apologize for forgetting that s. Second, I would like to point out a small error in your logic.

You indicate through your arguments that longevity, is a reason why a name should be kept. However, how long were people of African descent called 'niggers', which you purport 'USians' to be the equivilant of?

Second, I, as a citizen of the United States of America, do not find the term USians to be insulting, degrading, and/or belittling in any way, shape, or form.

if you're talking with somebody who specificially asks you to say "American," then why not just do it?
'Cause I shouldn't have to coddle someone's hyperinflated sensitivities due to their being unreasonably uptight over acronyms, short-forms and/or nicknames.

Knowing Dobbs, I'd say the answer to this question would be "yes".
Nice. And mostly untrue.

'Cause I shouldn't have to coddle someone's hyperinflated sensitivities due to their being unreasonably uptight over acronyms, short-forms and/or nicknames.
So, again, if you met a fellow named Jonathan who asked you to kindly not refer to him as "Johnny," you would continue refering to him that way anyhow?

While I happen to not give a shit about "American" versus "USian," I have to take issue with your stated reasoning.

If you want, think of it like nicknames. Some people don't mind if you use a nickname for them (Jonathan becomes Jon, Elizabeth becomes Liz, etc), but other people prefer that you use their full name. Would you really be rude enough to continue using a nickname after somebody specifically asked you not to?

If somebody feels strongly enough about the "USian" thing to ask you to please not use the term, does it really cost you so much to be respectful? Sure, you may have to make a few more keystrokes, but is that really such a pain? Just don't use that particular term when talking with that particular person. If they choose to come into a conversation that you are having with somebody else, then they can suck it up and get over themselves, but if you're talking with somebody who specificially asks you to say "American," then why not just do it?
I wholeheartedly agree.

So I guess the KKK isn't insulting anybody who doesn't have white skin, simply because they're in the same country.

Owned.

Hardly. The point of USians is citizenship, and the point of your post was race. If the majority of the KKK was African-American, you might have a point. However, since that is in no way the case, you lose.

How often, really, are the whole of the people in the Americas refered to as a group that there really was so much confusion that a new term needed to be coined? And if you're confused by it when it has been more or less functional, who does it say more about?

Nice. And mostly untrue.
I was actually about to defend you against that statement, but it appears that it WAS an accurate one. You seem to be saying that you intend to use whatever term you prefer, regardless of what others may request. While I obviously support your right to say whatever the hell you please, I also think it's needlessly rude of you to insist on using a particular term even when you've been asked to refrain from doing so.

If the arguement had been stated about convience from the jump I wouldnt have a problem with anything, USer, Uni, whatever...but it wasnt.
It was about us being WRONG for being called Americans.
The convience arguement is a back peddle.
Show me how I've back-pedalled within this thread, Skib. Show everybody. Otherwise, stow it.

Mommy why do people want to refer to us as a house style?

Fine you don't want to call us Americans...don't

However USian? sounds like someone who lives in a usonian house.

We don't refer to people from the United Kingdom as UKians do we?

We never refered to people from the USSR as USSRians (sounds like an alien race)

We've never refer to someone from the United Arab Emirates as a
UAEian would we?

How about to try something a little more creative hmm?

How about Washintonians?

Hardly. The point of USians is citizenship, and the point of your post was race. If the majority of the KKK was African-American, you might have a point. However, since that is in no way the case, you lose.

Don't forget about segregation and general racism from the average American "back in the day".

So no, I don't lose.

Nice. And mostly untrue.

You do very little to defeat that image. "'Cause I shouldn't have to coddle someone's hyperinflated sensitivities due to their being unreasonably uptight over acronyms, short-forms and/or nicknames." Because if someone politely asks you to not call them a particular nickname, the nice thing to do would be to respect their wishes. You seem to have no interest in respecting other people's wishes in this regard at all.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Same here. I'm pretty tired of the trash on this forum and their... Trash. :p

I was actually about to defend you against that statement, but it appears that it WAS an accurate one. You seem to be saying that you intend to use whatever term you prefer, regardless of what others may request. While I obviously support your right to say whatever the hell you please, I also think it's needlessly rude of you to insist on using a particular term even when you've been asked to refrain from doing so.
You're certainly entitled to your thoughts on the matter, as am I. As are we all. Just as I will certainly always take my own convenience into consideration first and foremost, and for that I make no apologies. I won't be dictated to on the basis of a perceived slight where none has been given.

Don't forget about segregation and general racism from the average American "back in the day".

So no, I don't lose.

Which was why? Anybody? No? All right. They were segregated because of their race. What you said is kind of the equivilant of saying (sarcastically) that pebbles cannot insult stones because they both lie in the bottom of stream beds.

What the original sentiment was was that pebbles aren't going to insult pebbles because they're both pebbles.

Mommy why do people want to refer to us as a house style?

Fine you don't want to call us Americans...don't

However USian? sounds like someone who lives in a usonian house.

We don't refer to people from the United Kingdom as UKians do we?

Aesthetically, I have to agree.

I'm a bit put-off by the people arguing that "USian" is good because it saves keystrokes, because that's just a bunch of laziness. It's fewer keystrokes to write "c u l8r," but that doesn't mean we should all go around speaking l33t. Personally, I think that supposed "simplification" of this sort generally just leads to more confusion, since you're creating a kind of secret code that outsiders aren't going to follow very well.



How about to try something a little more creative hmm?

How about Washintonians?
Doesn't work; remember, there's a Washington state, as well as Washington, the district. And what about all the people with "Washington" for a last name?

I'm sticking with Quizblorgian, thank you very much.

You do very little to defeat that image. "'Cause I shouldn't have to coddle someone's hyperinflated sensitivities due to their being unreasonably uptight over acronyms, short-forms and/or nicknames." Because if someone politely asks you to not call them a particular nickname, the nice thing to do would be to respect their wishes. You seem to have no interest in respecting other people's wishes in this regard at all.
I've done nothing to offend anybody - I'm not responsible for other people's inability to cope with inoffensive short-forms, acronyms, or nicknames being used in popular parlance.

So I guess the KKK isn't insulting anybody who doesn't have white skin, simply because they're in the same country.

Owned.

False association much? Your logic doesn't even make sense when compared to mine.

The logic I used is "As a citizen of the US, I am not trying to insult it because I live in it and depreciating it's citizens is depreciating myself."

The logic you use is "If a person wasn't white they'd have no reason to be insulted by a member of the KKK"

How the hell does the association even make sense?

First, I apologize for forgetting that s. Second, I would like to point out a small error in your logic.

You indicate through your arguments that longevity, is a reason why a name should be kept. However, how long were people of African descent called 'niggers', which you purport 'USians' to be the equivilant of?

Second, I, as a citizen of the United States of America, do not find the term USians to be insulting, degrading, and/or belittling in any way, shape, or form.
No I do not purport that longevity is basis of my counter arguement for the term USian but nice to ignore the entire scope of all of my posts.
From the fact that no other peoples in the world are reffered to in such a way and that its use intended to be a slander.

Second I very happy you are not offended by the term USian buy yourself a cookie.

You do not speak for me, and by the general sentiment of most Americans here you dont speka for them either.

****** has no value, it is insulting because it was intended to be insulting just like USian.

Lastly I am of Native American Heritage so I will not be called an USian, I am an American. By blood birth and definition.
Simply because you feel the need to be some feeble apologist for the term American does not concern me at all.

You're certainly entitled to your thoughts on the matter, as am I. As are we all. Just as I will certainly always take my own convenience into consideration first and foremost, and for that I make no apologies. I won't be dictated to on the basis of a perceived slight where none has been given.
If Jonathan asks you to please not call him "Johnny," and you continue to do so any way, then that IS a slight. It wasn't a slight the first time, because you didn't know it would bother him and you were using a perfectly reasonable nickname, but it becomes a slight as soon as you are asked to stop and decide to keep going.

Same applies here. If you use "USian" once, and somebody flips the fuck out, then they're a spaz and should go take some deep, soothing breaths before they muck around on the internets. On the other hand, if they explain to you that they find it offensive for you to use that term, and ask you to please refer to them as "American," you're the one who's being a spaz if you decide to continue using a term that you know will piss them off.

If the arguement had been stated about convience from the jump I wouldnt have a problem with anything, USer, Uni, whatever...but it wasnt.
It was about us being WRONG for being called Americans.
The convience arguement is a back peddle.
I have to agree that I don't like some of the connotations of "USian", but I can see why some people object to citizens of the United States of America calling themselves simply American. I don't have a problem with that myself because I also consider myself American. Maybe it's because American is actually easier to say in speech than USian. Anyway, I think I'm going to give up on this, since it's obvious that no one wants to compromise.

I've done nothing to offend anybody - I'm not responsible for other people's inability to cope with inoffensive short-forms, acronyms, or nicknames being used in popular parlance.

And that's fine. But don't rebel against the label I place on you, either.

Anyway, I think I'm going to give up on this, since it's obvious that no one wants to compromise.
Hey, I'm compromising! I use the "traditional" term as a default (since "American" is the term that seem to be in common usage), but if somebody requests that I use a different term I will respect their wishes just as I would respect their wishes with their name, or the title of their religion, or whatever else.

Doesn't work; remember, there's a Washington state, as well as Washington, the district. And what about all the people with "Washington" for a last name?

I'm sticking with Quizblorgian, thank you very much.

Well Most Americans see Washington as the father of our country so it seemed at least somewhat fitting. And well there is enough confusion with the name already expanding it to all of us seemed justifiable.

How about Amerind?

Which was why? Anybody? No? All right. They were segregated because of their race. What you said is kind of the equivilant of saying (sarcastically) that pebbles cannot insult stones because they both lie in the bottom of stream beds.

What the original sentiment was was that pebbles aren't going to insult pebbles because they're both pebbles.

Both are a matter of segregation (though one being more serious than the other). In recent months, American posters on NS General have been relegated to the term "USian" by some of the less tasteful posters.

It's segregation and inflammatory all the same, whether it be by race or nationality.

If Jonathan asks you to please not call him "Johnny," and you continue to do so any way, then that IS a slight. It wasn't a slight the first time, because you didn't know it would bother him and you were using a perfectly reasonable nickname, but it becomes a slight as soon as you are asked to stop and decide to keep going.

Same applies here. If you use "USian" once, and somebody flips the fuck out, then they're a spaz and should go take some deep, soothing breaths before they muck around on the internets. On the other hand, if they explain to you that they find it offensive for you to use that term, and ask you to please refer to them as "American," you're the one who's being a spaz if you decide to continue using a term that you know will piss them off.
Assuming I can be bothered trying to remember who is and who isn't a shrill, screaming ninny who goes off in a huff every time I use an acronym. You must think I keep track of shrill screaming ninnies who aren't Eutrusca or something.:rolleyes:

i voted NO in the vain thought that anyone would go along with it even if the NOs were 100% of the vote

usian is an absurdly incorrect affectation on the part of some non-american nsgeneralites. its neither important nor is it going to go away. it is not intended as an insult. i think of it as the equivalent of the wart on the nose of a beloved elderly aunt. its kind of creepy but its outweighed by the pleasure of the company.

Well Most Americans see Washington as the father of our country so it seemed at least somewhat fitting. And well there is enough confusion with the name already expanding it to all of us seemed justifiable.

How about Amerind?


Sounds like a kind of watermelon.

Well Most Americans see Washington as the father of our country so it seemed at least somewhat fitting. And well there is enough confusion with the name already expanding it to all of us seemed justifiable.

I don't think anybody who is remotely familiar with the history of the USA would say that George Washington was the father of this country. I also think that people who aren't familiar with USA history should probably not be the ones who decide what to call us. :)


How about Amerind?
It's Quizblorgian or nothing. Don't make me release the hounds.

How about Amerind?

I think people of Native American descent might be offended if some people here started calling all of us Amerinds...

Assuming I can be bothered trying to remember who is and who isn't a shrill, screaming ninny who goes off in a huff every time I use an acronym. You must think I keep track of shrill screaming ninnies who aren't Eutrusca or something.:rolleyes:
As I said already, if they're being a shrill, screaming ninny then they can go sulk off somewhere else. But I've seen some people discussing this issue who are not being shrill or rude. There are people who seem to feel strongly against being called "USian," but who aren't being jackasses about it. I think those people deserve to be treated with the respect they are showing.

Originally it was a phrase for a person of mixed race that included native american...

However, considering that most genetic studies have shown a good deal of the United States population has some native american genes then apply it to all of us.

Oh and my real problem with USian is it reminds me of Aryan for some reason.

it is not intended as an insult.

My ass it isn't. I've been around here too long to fall for anybody saying something like this isn't anything of the sort.

And that's fine. But don't rebel against the label I place on you, either.
I said your analysis was 'mostly untrue'. I didn't start into a rant about being called '******' or thump my chest over the inequities of being the Great Unloved People of the planet or nothin'.

How about Amerind?

Sorry that is term used specifically with Native American descent, it to is a slur. It is short for American Indian.

I said your analysis was 'mostly untrue'. I didn't start into a rant about being called '******' or thump my chest over the inequities of being the Great Unloved People of the planet or nothin'.

Neither did I, to my recollection. This is about you being a dick and not respecting the wishes of people who ask you kindly not to call them a name that they dislike.

Sorry that is term used specifically with Native American descent, it to is a slur. It is short for American Indian.

You know I'm serious begining to think every word for someone is a slur...

Hey, I'm compromising! I use the "traditional" term as a default (since "American" is the term that seem to be in common usage), but if somebody requests that I use a different term I will respect their wishes just as I would respect their wishes with their name, or the title of their religion, or whatever else.
Well, when I said "no one" I was using hyperbole. I agree with your view, but now I'm afraid that this argument may never die.

American is an insignafigant term for continental residents, because we're two conitinents, it would have to be North American or South American. When the adjective is added it's clear that we are refering to people of that particular continent (no one thinks that NAFTA is an agreement of the northern states to trade, after all) and to refer to residents of both continents a plurality is need, people of the Americas. So the singular American without a distinction of North, South or Central is actually unused due to a lack of specifics-there is no America continent, there are North and South Americas, but not America. So in the singular it doesn't refer to anything-leaving the term free to apply to citizens of the United States of America.

As I said already, if they're being a shrill, screaming ninny then they can go sulk off somewhere else. But I've seen some people discussing this issue who are not being shrill or rude. There are people who seem to feel strongly against being called "USian," but who aren't being jackasses about it. I think those people deserve to be treated with the respect they are showing.
And my position is that that is a particularly puerile and silly thing to feel strongly about - and has far, far less to do with any actual issues than it does with a bizarrely-attenuated sense of self-pity & self-loathing.

But let's not bring the idea of 'respect' into the mix, as USians do have a very peculiar notion as to what 'respect' entails, a notion that does not jibe with my own, or others.

You know I'm serious begining to think every word for someone is a slur...

Hey! Someone is used specifically to refer to a person who has a word for them! Therefore, it is a slur.

How about this,

Just refer to us as Basterdians

Neither did I, to my recollection. This is about you being a dick and not respecting the wishes of people who ask you kindly not to call them a name that they dislike.
Well that's just too damn bad, then. They might not like it, but it's not offensive. Back to my statement that I'm not responsible for the reactions of over-sensitive twits.

How about this,

Just refer to us as Basterdians
At least it would be honest.

No I do not purport that longevity is basis of my counter arguement for the term USian but nice to ignore the entire scope of all of my posts.
From the fact that no other peoples in the world are reffered to in such a way and that its use intended to be a slander.

Second I very happy you are not offended by the term USian buy yourself a cookie.

You do not speak for me, and by the general sentiment of most Americans here you dont speka for them either.

****** has no value, it is insulting because it was intended to be insulting just like USian.

Lastly I am of Native American Heritage so I will not be called an USian, I am an American. By blood birth and definition.
Simply because you feel the need to be some feeble apologist for the term American does not concern me at all.

Then why even bring up the fact that it's been used for over two hundred years?

And if the term '******' is not insulting in and of itself, and it is only intent that matters, then it stands to reason that the same holds true for USian. It is not an insult unless it is used with the intent to insult someone.

Next, the argument is not over whether or not you in particular should be called an USian or American. It's over whether the citizens of the United States of America should be called USians or Americans. I don't care whether you're of Native American descent, an Irish immigrant, or the last son of Krypton, if you're a citizen of the United States of America, this applies to you. If you want to use a term beyond that to describe your specific heritage, go right ahead.

Finally, if you really want to get technical, there is no such thing as a Native American, as they crossed over the land bridge to get there. Of course, by that theory we're all Pangeans, or, if you prefer, Mega Continent of Pangeans. That'd solve a lot of problems, eh?

Well that's just too damn bad, then. They might not like it, but it's not offensive. Back to my statement that I'm not responsible for the reactions of over-sensitive twits.

That it is, sparky.

Hey! Someone is used specifically to refer to a person who has a word for them! Therefore, it is a slur.

Er...I can't parse the sense in this statement

Actually, Mexico's full name is United Mexican States (Estados Unidos Mexicanos), and not United States of Mexico (Estados Unidos de México). And well, as for Indonesia, they only used the name for one year, fifty plus years ago. They're currently the Republic of Indonesia.


And what does one call the United States of America in Spanish?
Los Estados Unidos de América.

So that is different from your example how?

American is an insignafigant term for continental residents, because we're two conitinents, it would have to be North American or South American. When the adjective is added it's clear that we are refering to people of that particular continent (no one thinks that NAFTA is an agreement of the northern states to trade, after all) and to refer to residents of both continents a plurality is need, people of the Americas. So the singular American without a distinction of North, South or Central is actually unused due to a lack of specifics-there is no America continent, there are North and South Americas, but not America. So in the singular it doesn't refer to anything-leaving the term free to apply to citizens of the United States of America.

Finally. I would've said this myself, but you beat me to it. :D

Like I've been saying all along --- it's a name created to irritate American posters here, nothing more.

Well that's just too damn bad, then. They might not like it, but it's not offensive. Back to my statement that I'm not responsible for the reactions of over-sensitive twits.
You are responsible for your own actions. Deliberately using a term for somebody that they have told you offends them DOES qualify as offensive.

If you are saying that you intend to continue being offensive regardless of what anybody says to you, then that's your choice. But you should be honest about what you are doing. You are choosing to behave in a way that you know is offensive to some other people. YOU are CHOOSING to act that way. Own your choice.

The real question here is, when someone says USian, do they use it in an offensive way.

Well that's just too damn bad, then. They might not like it, but it's not offensive. Back to my statement that I'm not responsible for the reactions of over-sensitive twits.

Actually, I think if someone doesn't like something, that's the definition of offensive.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=offensive
Causing anger, displeasure, resentment, or affront: an offensive gesture.

ready...I'm about to make the same damn argument that has been made before and will be made until the end of time:

the official political name of the USA is - The United States of AMERICA, hence we are Americans.

No other state in either North or South America uses "America" in the official name of their state...thus they are "North American" or "South American" by continent just as you are "European" by your continent and then "Chilean" or "Mexican" or "Canadian" by nation...

I am a "North American" by continent and "American" by nation...and I always will be...and you are the arrogant one for arbitrarily deciding what I should or should not be indentified as.

The real question here is, when someone says USian, do they use it in an offensive way.

Most of these guys are definitely snide and rude about it.

Like I've been saying all along --- it's a name created to irritate American posters here, nothing more.
I think that's a big leap. I think it's perfectly possible that some people just used "USian" because it's shorter. Maybe others started using the term because they realized it pisses off some Americans, but I think there are plenty of people who might use that construction without any mean intent.

At least it would be honest.

Yea!! How about next you come over here and liquidate us and return North America to France

You are responsible for your own actions. Deliberately using a term for somebody that they have told you offends them DOES qualify as offensive.

If you are saying that you intend to continue being offensive regardless of what anybody says to you, then that's your choice. But you should be honest about what you are doing. You are choosing to behave in a way that you know is offensive to some other people. YOU are CHOOSING to act that way. Own your choice.
So take it to Moderation, then.

ready...I'm about to make the same damn argument that has been made before and will be made until the end of time:

the official political name of the USA is - The United States of AMERICA, hence we are Americans.

No other state in either North or South America uses "America" in the official name of their state...thus they are "North American" or "South American" by continent just as you are "European" by your continent and then "Chilean" or "Mexican" or "Canadian" by nation...

I am a "North American" by continent and "American" by nation...and I always will be...and you are the arrogant one for arbitrarily deciding what I should or should not be indentified as.

The official political name is the UNITED STATES of America. As in the United States Army, the United States Senate, the Supreme Court of the United States, the United States Post Office, the office of the President of the United States, the United States Air Force, etc. etc.

I think that's a big leap. I think it's perfectly possible that some people just used "USian" because it's shorter. Maybe others started using the term because they realized it pisses off some Americans, but I think there are plenty of people who might use that construction without any mean intent.

Allthough most people use it to piss off Americans.

My ass it isn't. I've been around here too long to fall for anybody saying something like this isn't anything of the sort.
only when used by the same people who can make "american" sound insulting too, i e those who find everything about us to be wrong.

and those who use it over the objections of others simply because thye know it bothers them

Most of these guys are definitely snide and rude about it.
I'm not responsible for your prejudices.

Personally, I find it highly offensive when someone calls me a "USian". I don't care if "American" is an incorrect term. Call us people from the US, Yankees, whatever, but , personally, I find the use of USian to be derogatory and a personal attack.

So take it to Moderation, then.
Because we're all trying to change your mind, not force something on you.

I think there are plenty of people who might use that construction without any mean intent.

Honestly? I doubt it.

So take it to Moderation, then.
Why? I would much rather take it up with you, directly. I don't think you're a total asshole, so I figure that you can be reasoned with. I'm sure you aren't out to piss people off for no reason, and I'm sure we can deal with this issue like adults. I don't want to force you to do anything...I want to help you understand why it would be better for you to make a mature choice on your own.

Personally, I find it highly offensive when someone calls me a "USian". I don't care if "American" is an incorrect term. Call us people from the US, Yankees, whatever, but , personally, I find the use of USian to be derogatory and a personal attack.
Well, I think you're far too sensitive. Could you explain just how the term is "derogatory and a personal attack"? Beyond your gut feelings?

Finally. I would've said this myself, but you beat me to it. :D

Like I've been saying all along --- it's a name created to irritate American posters here, nothing more.
You know, I actually thought it came about here, too. And I'm not afraid to admit that, but it actually has been around for a while, at least according to Wikipedia, so take that as you will...but I would agree that here, despite protests to the contrary (in which the very nature and execution of the protests leave very little doubt) it is to get under the skin of American posters.

They have a beef with a specific set of Americans that other Americans also have a beef with but have clouded thier own judgement so much that they can no longer make the distinction, actually becoming as arrogant as they would label others-because after all, isn't it really just another form of "I'm better than you" that supposed to be a sin of the American?

Then why even bring up the fact that it's been used for over two hundred years?

And if the term '******' is not insulting in and of itself, and it is only intent that matters, then it stands to reason that the same holds true for USian. It is not an insult unless it is used with the intent to insult someone.

Next, the argument is not over whether or not you in particular should be called an USian or American. It's over whether the citizens of the United States of America should be called USians or Americans. I don't care whether you're of Native American descent, an Irish immigrant, or the last son of Krypton, if you're a citizen of the United States of America, this applies to you. If you want to use a term beyond that to describe your specific heritage, go right ahead.

Finally, if you really want to get technical, there is no such thing as a Native American, as they crossed over the land bridge to get there. Of course, by that theory we're all Pangeans, or, if you prefer, Mega Continent of Pangeans. That'd solve a lot of problems, eh?

USian does not apply because it is incorrect.
Heritage is directly related because it partly is related to a region.
Since I am a Native American, a heritage on this continent pre-history I am entitled to be called AMerican.
Expanding on that is a person born in France entitled to be called French?
Yes, How about European?
Since they are from France can they call themselves Europeans?

Because if we cant be called Americans then certainly Europeans shouldnt be called Europeans because it would be arrogant. Right?

Honestly? I doubt it.
Then doubt no more! For I have used that term, and have never intended it to be derogatory in any way.

Of course, I also used the term "negro" once when I was younger, because I had read it in Tom Sawyer and thought it was an accepted word. Then I had it explained to me that some words are hurtful, and that it's best if we choose to use words that aren't going to hurt other people's feelings. This is simple courtesy, where I'm from, and I don't really understand why it's such a problem around here.

Why? I would much rather take it up with you, directly. I don't think you're a total asshole, so I figure that you can be reasoned with. I'm sure you aren't out to piss people off for no reason, and I'm sure we can deal with this issue like adults.
I'm not so sure it can be dealt with in the manner of which you speak, as there's simply no grounds for anyone to be upset at all.

Well, I think you're far too sensitive. Could you explain just how the term is "derogatory and a personal attack"? Beyond your gut feelings?

It is just that, they are my gut feelings. I just plain don't like it. Is there something wrong with asking not to be called something you do not like?

Then doubt no more! For I have used that term, and have never intended it to be derogatory in any way.

You said most. Not all. :p

I'm the first voter, and I'd just like to say that anyone who opposes the term USian is a little bit arrogent for suggesting that the nation of the US is equivelent to the continent of the US

USian? What is that? Why do people nit-pick over stupid things? Yes, everyone knows that the Americas refer to all of the Western Hemisphere, so technically every person in every country of the two continents is American. However, custom has dictated that the term American refers to people from the United States. Nobody in Mexico, Canada, Brazil, or Cuba calls him or herself American.

Stop being silly.

You said most. Not all. :p
Ah, but I am most people! In fact, I am actually ALL people, at the same time!

Mwa ha ha.

It is just that, they are my gut feelings. I just plain don't like it. Is there something wrong with asking not to be called something you do not like?
There's something wrong with trying to dictate how inoffensive language is to be used by others.

It's like the word Pakie, it's actual meaning isn't offensive at all, it just means someone from Pakistan, but it is specifically used to offend people.

Why can't the same apply for USian.

I'm not so sure it can be dealt with in the manner of which you speak, as there's simply no grounds for anyone to be upset at all.
No more than there is "grounds" for Jonathan to be upset about being called "Johnny." It's still rude to use a nickname for somebody when they've asked you to stop, just as it is still rude of you to use "USian" when refering to a person who has asked you to stop.

It's like the word Packie, it's actual meaning isn't offensive at all, it just means someone from Pakistan, but it is specifically used to offend people.

Why can't the same apply for USian.

Packie is to Pakistani as Yankee is to American, not "USian". Get over it.

There's something wrong with trying to dictate how inoffensive language is to be used by others.
Nobody is trying to "dictate." They're asking you to not use a particular term that they find offensive. Then, when you decide that you want to continue using that term, they (rightfully) tell you that you're being rude.

You are the one choosing to act rudely, so why are you surprised when people tell you you're being rude?

Ah, but I am most people! In fact, I am actually ALL people, at the same time!

Mwa ha ha.

*backs away slowly*

Packie is to Pakistani as Yankee is to American, not "USian". Get over it.

If that was true, then no one would be complaining about it.

I'm not so sure it can be dealt with in the manner of which you speak, as there's simply no grounds for anyone to be upset at all.
Certainly there is, your intention is to be offensize as you already know it is offends but continue to use it.

Can you tell me what is offensive about he word ******?
Is the letter g offensive? or the er at the end?

Or offensive about any other slur besides the intention of the user, and your intention is completely clear.

Well, I think you're far too sensitive. Could you explain just how the term is "derogatory and a personal attack"? Beyond your gut feelings?
Repeated usage, espescially on the part of certain individuals on this forum who have a noted reputation for being espescially derogatory towards the US. You are certainly not one of them, but I can imagine that you know who some of them are.

The manner in which it is used, espesically with the defiance that is shown when people request that it is not used, as per the perception that it is an insult, and the fact that these requests to stop only strengthen many people's desire to use the term.

No more than there is "grounds" for Jonathan to be upset about being called "Johnny." It's still rude to use a nickname for somebody when they've asked you to stop, just as it is still rude of you to use "USian" when refering to a person who has asked you to stop.
Fine, I'll keep my eyes peeled for an official letter from the POTUS kindly asking me to stop, then.

If that was true, then no one would be complaining about it.

How you missed the meaning of that post is totally beyond me.

Fine, I'll keep my eyes peeled for an official letter from the POTUS kindly asking me to stop, then.
?

So, if Jonathan asks you to not call him Johnny, you will continue until the President of the US tells you to stop?

How you missed the meaning of that post is totally beyond me.

How you missed the meaning of my post is totally beyond me.

How you missed the meaning of my post is totally beyond me.

Oh, now that's mature.

Nobody is trying to "dictate." They're asking you to not use a particular term that they find offensive. Then, when you decide that you want to continue using that term, they (rightfully) tell you that you're being rude.

You are the one choosing to act rudely, so why are you surprised when people tell you you're being rude?
You are the one choosing to define my choice of verbiage as 'rude', or even 'offensive'. Why are you surprised when people tell you you're being unreasonably sensitive?

Oh, now that's mature.

Ok now we are going in circles, my point was that Pakie and USian is the same because, their meanings are innofensive yet people use them to be offensive.

?

So, if Jonathan asks you to not call him Johnny, you will continue until the President of the US tells you to stop?
No, sod Johnny. If random cranks on the internet ask me to not refer to people as USians, I'll continue until someone in authority over those random cranks, and all the other cranks I lump together as USians, says otherwise - and even then, I'll mull it over a bit before coming to a final decision.

You are the one choosing to define my choice of verbiage as 'rude', or even 'offensive'. Why are you surprised when people tell you you're being unreasonably sensitive?
Because, as per the fact that you are not a member of the group that is being talked about, you cannot truthfully tell what is overly sensitive or not. The subject of the term is to be considered the judge of rudeness and sensitivity.

Why are people so blind! USian is clearly causing offence, so if you stop using it there will be less tension!

Because, as per the fact that you are not a member of the group that is being talked about, you cannot truthfully tell what is overly sensitive or not. The subject of the term is to be considered the judge of rudeness and sensitivity.
Which goes back to describing, in full, just how the term is actually offensive. Any takers?

No, sod Johnny. If random cranks on the internet ask me to not refer to people as USians, I'll continue until someone in authority over those random cranks, and all the other cranks I lump together as USians, says otherwise - and even then, I'll mull it over a bit before coming to a final decision.
So would you accept the word of a civil servant in the employ of Governor of the State of Ohio, or would you insist on dubya himself?

Why are people so blind! USian is clearly causing offence, so if you stop using it there will be less tension!
Because I won't be bullied - particularly not by bullies masquerading as victims.

Which goes back to describing, in full, just how the term is actually offensive. Any takers?
I gave my explanation, it's on the bottom of the previous page.

So would you accept the word of a civil servant in the employ of Governor of the State of Ohio, or would you insist on dubya himself?
Naw, I'll only settle for the top dog - which of course means Dick Cheney.

Semantics - gotta love 'em...

Naw, I'll only settle for the top dog - which of course means Dick Cheney.
Will my repeated claims that I am Dick Cheney count?

I gave my explanation, it's on the bottom of the previous page.
Well, I re-read it, and I'm sorry, but that's not adequate IMO.

This is the kind of debate college sophomores have after they have tired of asking whether or not god can create a boulder too heavy for god to pick up or exploring the possibility that we are all just living in a really tiny universe in the hands of some cosmic giant.

Take another hit off the bong and move on to something else.

Because I won't be bullied - particularly not by bullies masquerading as victims.

You are not being bullied, they are not trying to offend you in anyway, they are only saying that what you are saying is offensive to them. You are the ones who are masquerading as victims as you seem to outnumber the non USian supporters here on NS.

You are not being bullied, they are not trying to offend you in anyway, they are only saying that what you are saying is offensive to them.
...and I've yet to hear a credible explanation as to what precisely is 'offensive' where the term USian in concerned.
You are the ones who are masquerading as victims as you seem to outnumber the non USian supporters here on NS.
Choose your plurals wisely, H-land.

The way I see it, this is just an attempt to cow people on the basis of nothing whatsoever. No sale.

In spite of Shakespeare ("a rose by any other name would smell as sweet"), names are important. I had an acquaintance named Lael (pronounced Lay-el), people persisted in calling him Lyle even though the two names are different in origin and meaning. It was meant as an insult and taken as one.

Usian (pronounced, if I read it correctly, yewsian) is not a word and it's not a name. The full name of my country is "the United States of America" - this has been pointed out many times in this thread. Note it is "of America" this means precisely what it says. The short term is American not USian. If some of you, with your reasonless anti-American bias, want to use USian, we can't stop you, but neither do we need to listen to you.

...and I've yet to hear a credible explanation as to what precisely is 'offensive' where the term USian in concerned.

Choose your plurals wisely, H-land.

The way I see it, this is just an attempt to cow people on the basis of nothing whatsoever. No sale.

It shouldn't matter if you understand why it is offensive or not, if people get offended you shouldn't use it unless in good humour.

It shouldn't matter if you understand why it is offensive or not, if people get offended you shouldn't use it unless in good humour.
That's just not good enough. Sorry.

I won't constrain myself to the wishes of oversensitive types who won't (or can't) verbalize their purported distress over a non-offensive acronym, short-form, or nickname. That would be asinine.

That's just not good enough. Sorry.

I won't constrain myself to the wishes of oversensitive types who won't (or can't) verbalize their purported distress over a non-offensive acronym, short-form, or nickname. That would be asinine.

Ok then but people will still get upset.

That's just not good enough. Sorry.

I won't constrain myself to the wishes of oversensitive types who won't (or can't) verbalize their purported distress over a non-offensive acronym, short-form, or nickname. That would be asinine.
Almost like expending a great deal of typing to defend a decision to shorten a word by three key strokes when no other short hand of that type is being utilized would be asinine.

Or transparent. Maybe I was thinking of transparent...

Ok then but people will still get upset.
Then let them go to Moderation to seek satisfaction; it's not my affair whether they let themselves get upset over nonsense or not.

Almost like expending a great deal of typing to defend a decision to shorten a word by three key strokes when no other short hand of that type is being utilized would be asinine.

Or transparent. Maybe I was thinking of transparent...
Well, if these hyper-sensitive people would just leave well enough alone, I wouldn't even consider navigating this tempest in a teacup. But more importantly, I simply cannot abide people trying to tell me what I may or may not write. Especially when there's no actual, definable slight involved.

Then let them go to Moderation to seek satisfaction; it's not my affair whether they let themselves get upset over nonsense or not.
Why the fixation on Moderation? The only other person that's even suggesting that is the OP, and that's because he's new and doesn't know how things work.

In all reality the discussion with you by others is to give you the benefit of the doubt, the hope that you're not just a dick who keeps a secret score card of people you managed to piss off because it fills the void inside left by mommies neglect.

But this obsession with being reported, almost desire...kinda weird if you ask me. Sure, it's amusing when centrists accuse you of all manner of things in moderation-man, I've been there. But to relish in it betrays a juvenile desire that seems to have nothing to do with the desire to save three key strokes.

I wouldn't use the term myself, but I'm having difficulties understanding why some posters find the term "USians" in itself to be offensive, and worthy of Mod-Intervention.

I understand that the term can be used in a derogatory manner, but that would require an individual assessment of the post to determine if a reaction from the Mods is required - as with any inflammatory posting.

Why the fixation on Moderation? The only other person that's even suggesting that is the OP, and that's because he's new and doesn't know how things work.

In all reality the discussion with you by others is to give you the benefit of the doubt, the hope that you're not just a dick who keeps a secret score card of people you managed to piss off because it fills the void inside left by mommies neglect.

But this obsession with being reported, almost desire...kinda weird if you ask me. Sure, it's amusing when centrists accuse you of all manner of things in moderation-man, I've been there. But to relish in it betrays a juvenile desire that seems to have nothing to do with the desire to save three key strokes.
Relish? Meh, I'm just bored. It all gets so repetitive after a while, the same lame arguments - the same inability to form a coherent argument against use of the term - if people are actually offended, they're either so fragile as to be untouchable and hence, no fun to interact with, or - and I rather suspect this is really the case - they're completely and utterly full of shit and aren't in the slightest bit offended. Whatever the reason, I suggest Moderation simply as a means by which the ludicrous nature of their supposed distress be underscored for them by someone other than myself, as apparently I am by now widely-held in certain circles to be offensive beyond all believable bounds for my insistence on not being told how to comport myself when using non-offensive written expressions.

Well, if these hyper-sensitive people would just leave well enough alone, I wouldn't even consider navigating this tempest in a teacup. But more importantly, I simply cannot abide people trying to tell me what I may or may not write. Especially when there's no actual, definable slight involved.
I still contend that you doth protest too much. Which is why I've avoided making any direct comment (which was hard when you got to the point where you said you where being bullied...wooo. Tell me you at least chuckled a little when you wrote that...)

However, it carries an accusation with it. Now, regardless of whether you meant that accusation or not isn't relivant. No more than my explination that I don't mean to make John out to be childish or juvenile when I call him Johnny. You might call him Johnny because you need that extra silable to carry the rhythm of what you're saying but when John hears it it puts a metaphorical beanie on his head and lollipop in his hand.

USian carries an imperialism through vocabulary accusation with it. If you where looking for a short term you'd use yank since it's shorter and you clearly don't give a shit about offending anyone. It also implies (I would argue more in the listener) that without the distinction they might actually think that both American continents have only one nation on them. Since no American, even the gung-ho military fetishist Bush following ones, thinks that it is a bit insulting.

And since it is used by you in the midst of your digs on the US, including ones you've made here, it has that association.

I don't see what is offensive about it? Especially considering when offense is intended it goes accompanied with fat, ignorant, homophobic or whatever generelization they come up with. It's not about the USian part, but the rest that is offensive.

Meh, least ive learnt something from this thread. Don't trust mods. :p

I still contend that you doth protest too much. Which is why I've avoided making any direct comment (which was hard when you got to the point where you said you where being bullied...wooo. Tell me you at least chuckled a little when you wrote that...)
No, I said that I won't be bullied. Chuckles come with the territory.
However, it carries an accusation with it. Now, regardless of whether you meant that accusation or not isn't relivant. No more than my explination that I don't mean to make John out to be childish or juvenile when I call him Johnny. You might call him Johnny because you need that extra silable to carry the rhythm of what you're saying but when John hears it it puts a metaphorical beanie on his head and lollipop in his hand.Like I already said, sod 'Johnny'. If we're going to shift focus from a group to an individual, then 'Johnny' has over 300 million distinct personalities, and not all of them (or even the majoity of them) object to the nickname used.
USian carries an imperialism through vocabulary accusation with it.Malarkey. If you where looking for a short term you'd use yank since it's shorter and you clearly don't give a shit about offending anyone. It also implies (I would argue more in the listener) that without the distinction they might actually think that both American continents have only one nation on them. Since no American, even the gung-ho military fetishist Bush following ones, thinks that it is a bit insulting.What? This part didn't make any sense to me. Why should I use the word 'Yank'? 'Yank', short-form for 'Yankee' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee), which can actually carry negative connotations and ought to be considered far more seriously as a (potentially) offensive term. 'USian' carries no such connotations, except perhaps in Eutrusca's head. And since it is used by you in the midst of your digs on the US, including ones you've made here, it has that association.Digs? Digs? The only digging around here is the gravedigging of pointless, fatuous thread topics guaranteed to go nowhere fast.

You're moving into willful ignorance merrily not to concede a point. It's a little disappointing because I would have thought it beneath you. You're becoming disturbingly like your foil.
No, I said that I won't be bullied. Chuckles come with the territory.
Yeah...that makes all the difference...
Like I already said, sod 'Johnny'. If we're going to shift focus from a group to an individual, then 'Johnny' has over 300 million distinct personalities, and not all of them (or even the majoity of them) object to the nickname used.
There are in fact millions of Johns, Jons, Jonathans, and Johnnys. All have a different way that they prefer to be called, not all of them-specifically the Johnnys, find a juvenile implication in the y ending of the name. The comparison wasn't that you where to be shafted with only one way or to never use Johnny but when you encountered a Jonathan who had politely asked to not be called Johnny because he didn't want to be juvenilized (it's a word now) that you would refrain from calling that person Johnny-unless you where a dick who thought it more important that you get to use the y then to have a civil discourse.
Malarkey.
Really? Do I have to quote the several posts here that in fact do point to that being the reason? The Wikipedia or any other source that does in fact verify that the origins are indeed related to the notion that calling citizens of the United States Americans co-opts the identity of the continent? Have you really spent that much time arguing with Eutrusca that you've developed his blinders? Has the abyss stared into you?
'What? This part didn't make any sense to me. Why should I use the word 'Yank'? 'Yank', short-form for 'Yankee' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee), which can actually carry negative connotations and ought to be considered far more seriously as a (potentially) offensive term. 'USian' carries no such connotations, except perhaps in Eutrusca's head.
Now you care about pissing people off? Selectivity not sold.

Digs? Digs? The only digging around here is the gravedigging of pointless, fatuous thread topics guaranteed to go nowhere fast.
From this thread-
And my position is that that is a particularly puerile and silly thing to feel strongly about - and has far, far less to do with any actual issues than it does with a bizarrely-attenuated sense of self-pity & self-loathing.

But let's not bring the idea of 'respect' into the mix, as USians do have a very peculiar notion as to what 'respect' entails, a notion that does not jibe with my own, or others.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11185333&postcount=122

Indeed, and I was right to not want to bring that peculiar brand of 'respect' into the discussion. Point being?

Indeed, and I was right to not want to bring that peculiar brand of 'respect' into the discussion. Point being?
Wow. So it's true.

Well, I'm sure you and Eutrusca will be happy together as peas in a pod...

Dobbsworld, why do you feel the need to use the term so strongly?

Actually, I get a chuckle out of the fact that we "Americans" actually hail from the United States of Henry.

As most students know, the Americas were named after an Italian mapmaker named Amerigo Vespucci. Amerigo is an Italian form of the medieval Latin Emericus, which in German is Heinrich, and in English, Henry.

We are the "Henrys," damnit, and you better remember it.

Why the fixation on Moderation? The only other person that's even suggesting that is the OP, and that's because he's new and doesn't know how things work.

In all reality the discussion with you by others is to give you the benefit of the doubt, the hope that you're not just a dick who keeps a secret score card of people you managed to piss off because it fills the void inside left by mommies neglect.

But this obsession with being reported, almost desire...kinda weird if you ask me. Sure, it's amusing when centrists accuse you of all manner of things in moderation-man, I've been there. But to relish in it betrays a juvenile desire that seems to have nothing to do with the desire to save three key strokes.
The martyr complex seems to be peculiar to a certain kind of poster. These are the sort who find ways to feel oppressed whenever somebody objects to their clearly-inappropriate behaviors. These are the sort who think that "free speech" means "I get to say whatever I want, whenever I want, and nobody gets to point out when I'm acting like an asshole."

These are the sort who need to get over themselves. If you act like a spoilt child then people are going to react to you as they would to a spoilt child. Quit pretending you're surprised, when everybody knows you're getting exactly the reaction you were looking for.

YAY! Version 1 is beating version 2!

Which was why? Anybody? No? All right. They were segregated because of their race. What you said is kind of the equivilant of saying (sarcastically) that pebbles cannot insult stones because they both lie in the bottom of stream beds.

What the original sentiment was was that pebbles aren't going to insult pebbles because they're both pebbles.

Exactly. The KKK were Americans (pebbles) insulting other Americans (pebbles), which were primarily black, but also Jewish and Catholic--which, gee, included an awful lot of white people.

But let's not bring the idea of 'respect' into the mix, as USians do have a very peculiar notion as to what 'respect' entails, a notion that does not jibe with my own, or others.

See, "USian" doesn't offend me in the least. I could hardly care less whether you or anyone else calls me American, USian, UnitedStatesish, USAese, or Quizblorgian. I do, however, object to stupid generalizations about people from my country, because, strangely enough, we actually don't have a national hive mind.

Only if I get to call everyone who lives in Europe EUians.

That's EWWWWW-ians.

It's only fair. :D

See, "USian" doesn't offend me in the least. I could hardly care less whether you or anyone else calls me American, USian, UnitedStatesish, USAese, or Quizblorgian. I do, however, object to stupid generalizations about people from my country, because, strangely enough, we actually don't have a national hive mind.
That's how I feel also. The title isn't important but the generalizations that may come with it are. For the record, I do believe that saying that one is an "American" referring only to themself and others from the US, is a big arrogant and sometimes ignorant. There are 3 countries on this continet, if someone from the US of A is American, then so are the Mexicans and Canadians. Let's not forget about South America either.