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Alright which one is better football or American football and why. poll coming

They both suxxor.

Alright which one is better football or American football and why. poll coming

Hey, guess what. We did this last month. And the month before. And before that.

Rugby Football:)

i will not vote in a segregated poll.

and whats a USian?

Hey, guess what. We did this last month. And the month before. And before that.
Yeah, well sorry. I dont remember it and have seen one recently

There is only one football, the game you play with your feet mainly. The game in which you hold the "ball" in your arms and kick it once in a while is nothing but Rugby On Safety Mode.

Yawn.. do we have to go over this all over again?


Rugby football ftw :D

Rugby rules! they both suck

i will not vote in a segregated poll.

and whats a USian?

USian: person from the US, which is fairly obvious.

i will not vote in a segregated poll.

and whats a USian?
What wrong with a segregated poll? you know what a USian is

Wow, I have never seen such insulting poll options. Ignore.

What wrong with a segregated poll?
Its just wrong.

Wow, I have never seen such insulting poll options. Ignore.
Where the hell have you got those 1,557 posts then? Clearly not from NS General!

Australian rules football surpasses them both. It's a real man's game. Hard, fast, physical and brutal. No padding, no guys falling on the ground crying over a little bump, full of athletic ability crossed with brute force. Gotta love it!

Where the hell have you got those 1,557 posts then? Clearly not from NS General!

It's in my sig, and I am tired of explaining it. There have been several threads on the topic- but the short, short version: the term "USian" is used specifically to insult Americans. Even if you just use it because it is shorter, that doesn't excuse the original intent. I, and several other people, firmly believe that it is NO different than calling someone of African ancestry a '******'. So I do not deal with people who use that term. If you wish to debate the 'merits' of your token anti-American slang, do so in one of the threads dealing with it, because I have no wish to debate it again.

the term "USian" is used specifically to insult Americans

No it isnt. It is used because the word "America" alone also refers to the continent. Canadians, Mexicans, Nicalagmians, Hondurans etc are also American. USian is to distingush between continental identity and national identity of American

No it isnt. It is used because the word "America" alone also refers to the continent. Canadians, Mexicans, Nicalagmians, Hondurans etc are also American. USian is to distingush between continental identity and national identity of American

Show me it in any news outlet. Or book. Or movie. Etc.
I've never HEARD ANYONE ever say USian in any country I've been in. Certainly not growing up in Slovakia, or visiting England, Poland, Germany, etc. :headbang:

Alright which one is better football or American football and why. poll coming

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472784

[/Done], though since the majority on this site are non-American, its little wonder at the results.

Show me it in any news outlet. Or book. Or movie. Etc.
I've never HEARD ANYONE ever say USian in any country I've been in. Certainly not growing up in Slovakia, or visiting England, Poland, Germany, etc. :headbang:

We use it where we use it. It doesnt matter if its common place or not. That is why it was created.

Show me it in any news outlet. Or book. Or movie. Etc.
I've never HEARD ANYONE ever say USian in any country I've been in. Certainly not growing up in Slovakia, or visiting England, Poland, Germany, etc. :headbang:
Perhaps not in English, but at least in Spanish (and possibly more languages as well), the word "estadounidense" exists to refer to people from the US. It effectively translates into "Unitedstatean", which if abbreviated could be "USean".

We use it where we use it. It doesnt matter if its common place or not. That is why it was created.

You got it, Frenchie. :D

the term "USian" is used specifically to insult Americans.

No it's not.

Perhaps not in English, but at least in Spanish (and possibly more languages as well), the word "estadounidense" exists to refer to people from the US. It effectively translates into "Unitedstatean", which abbreviated could be "USean".

As opposed to "los Americanos"? I hear that all the time, too.
We're speaking English here (mostly, there are some foreign language threads)...

I posted on this earlier today, if you're interested: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11184230&postcount=9

No it's not.

I agree, it is not an insult per se, but it is Orwellian Newspeak, which is why I rail against it so much.

As opposed to "los Americanos"? I hear that all the time, too.
We're speaking English here (mostly, there are some foreign language threads)...

I posted on this earlier today, if you're interested: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11184230&postcount=9
A small part of Spanish speakers actually use the term "americano".

I agree, it is not an insult per se, but it is Orwellian Newspeak, which is why I rail against it so much.

May be newspeak, doesn't matter, it's still not insulting.

However, I understand your opposition to it.

I also understand the opposition to american.

May be newspeak, doesn't matter, it's still not insulting.

However, I understand your opposition to it.

I also understand the opposition to american.
Yeah. How would you feel if a single nation seized the entire continent's adjective and demanded it to be used to refer only to its own citizens?

Yeah. How would you feel if a single nation seized the entire continent's adjective and demanded it to be used to refer only to its own citizens?

We Americans have no problem with Columbians calling themselves Sud Americanos (South Americans). Or if they joined the Union, becoming Americans.

There have only been two kinds of Americans: United States of America citizens and (briefly) Confederate States of America citizens.

Unless we start calling Germans "Bundesrepubliks" to differentiante them from Austrians, some Swiss and other ethnic Germans living in Europe. A United States (Union of States) is what Americans belong to, not some vague continental slang.

http://www.theforumsite.com/images/galleries/mid_fccf0db64799ce0299a0ca7b417700b0.jpg

We Americans have no problem with Columbians calling themselves Sud Americanos (South Americans). Or if they joined the Union, becoming Americans.

There have only been two kinds of Americans: United States of America citizens and (briefly) Confederate States of America citizens.

Unless we start calling Germans "Bundesrepubliks" to differentiante them from Austrians, some Swiss and other ethnic Germans living in Europe. A United States (Union of States) is what Americans belong to, not some vague continental slang.
Vague? No. Americo Vespucci named the continent "America" long before the United States existed. And no, the US seized the name "America" for themselves. Your analogy with Germany, Austria and Switzerland is flawed, since there's really no connection. The ethnic race is Germanic, not German.

The game played with this: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/fussball.jpg

What? American football? That sport is for pussies. Canadian football is clearly a better game. American football is all about looking good for TV land, with long passes to nancy little recievers and stuff. Not only that their players need 4 downs to move the damn ball ten yards? Canadian football kicks ass. All we care about are broken bones, blood, teeth left in the field and all that stuff. Real football. For men.

But of course this is about European "soccer" football vs American football. Seeing as I played soccer for like 7 years or so a long time ago you'd think I'd have some sort of bias. But I don't. I don't really enjoy soccer to much anymore. I'll play it every once in a while, but other than that I don't do much about it.

So I guess that leaves me with no vote. I don't really care one way or the other for soccer. And I can't bring myself to vote for American football, a sport as weak as their beer might I add. So yea...

And well, enough of off-topic now. Football's the best. :D

What? American football? That sport is for pussies. Canadian football is clearly a better game. American football is all about looking good for TV land, with long passes to nancy little recievers and stuff. Not only that their players need 4 downs to move the damn ball ten yards? Canadian football kicks ass. All we care about are broken bones, blood, teeth left in the field and all that stuff. Real football. For men.

But of course this is about European "soccer" football vs American football. Seeing as I played soccer for like 7 years or so a long time ago you'd think I'd have some sort of bias. But I don't. I don't really enjoy soccer to much anymore. I'll play it every once in a while, but other than that I don't do much about it.

So I guess that leaves me with no vote. I don't really care one way or the other for soccer. And I can't bring myself to vote for American football, a sport as weak as their beer might I add. So yea...

If Canadian football "kicks ass" as so you say then why are americans the best at playing football(not soccer)

Alright which one is better football or American football and why. poll coming

Combined with your posts elsewhere on this subject and your poll options, and given the history of this particular topic, I have reported this as flamebait.

If Canadian football "kicks ass" as so you say then why are americans the best at playing football(not soccer)

Well for one, that is a horrible question. I never did say the USians were the best at playing football. I will try and explain as to why the NFL and the USA are the two things that really come to mind when the word football is mentioned however.

See, it's because there are only 35 million Canadians to watch the CFL, where there is 300 million Americans to watch the NFL. Do the math. The NFL is bigger, caters to more fans, makes more money, has a greater selection of players, and can afford to pay those players. As well it has a huge number of teams. But being big and full of money doesn't always make a sport good, as in this case. But because it is big and full of money, people assume its good when really they're just having their money taken while they could be watching a real mans sport (like Canadian football).

Combined with your posts elsewhere on this subject and your poll options, and given the history of this particular topic, I have reported this as flamebait.
it what way is this flamebait?

it what way is this flamebait?

Acting aloof. I love it.

Acting aloof. I love it.
No, Im serious. Im bloggled how this can be seen as flamebaiting

What wrong with a segregated poll? you know what a USian is
Yes it is a slander against Americans.
A bit of parlance used by a bigoted slack jaw.

No, Im serious. Im bloggled how this can be seen as flamebaiting

I bet. You could at least try a bit harder.

Yes it is a slander against Americans.
A bit of parlance used by a bigoted slack jaw.
Its not intended to be a bloody insult.

I hate them both. BTW, the poll options should refer to "gridiron" or "Usian football."

Depends on my mood, right now rest of the world-ian football with the world cup. But the two sports are very different, and hard for me to compare. Especially since I have very little exposure to rest of the world-ian football.

Since the definition of football varies depending on where you are, I will answer with a piture.
http://www.best-of-munich.com/fussball-weltmeisterschaft/img/fussball-Weltmeisterschaft.jpg.

American Football is for girls. Rugby and Aussie rules are games for real men who don't need pads and helmets.

Aussie Rules footy wins.

The sport I think of as "soccer" seems about fifty times more interesting to me than the sport I think of as "football." The World Cup is exciting to watch; NFL games are profoundly boring.

*cheerfully waits for someone to complain about how un-American I am*

i think we can all agree non-USA football is the best for the masses.

Rugby is the best sport for the intellect.

and all american football varients are lame. americans should stick to there very very good game, baseball.

I picked the last one:

Three old guys are about ot die, but God says 'No more room in Heaven', which isn't cool. So God strikes them a deal. If they jump off a cliff, say what they want to become, they will be reborn as that form when they reach the ground for their next life. The three old men readily agree.

The first one runs and jumps off, and says "Lion" and he becomes a lion when he hits the ground, and runs away. The second guy runs and jumps, and says "Eagle" and he becomes an eagle and flies away. The third guy runs, but halfway through trips and plunges forwards and is about to land on a group of jagged rocks. "Aw, shit."

I picked the last one:

Three old guys are about ot die, but God says 'No more room in Heaven', which isn't cool. So God strikes them a deal. If they jump off a cliff, say what they want to become, they will be reborn as that form when they reach the ground for their next life. The three old men readily agree.

The first one runs and jumps off, and says "Lion" and he becomes a lion when he hits the ground, and runs away. The second guy runs and jumps, and says "Eagle" and he becomes an eagle and flies away. The third guy runs, but halfway through trips and plunges forwards and is about to land on a group of jagged rocks. "Aw, shit."
ROFL! thats a good one, took me a little bit to get it:D

it what way is this flamebait?

1) Intentional use of "USAian" for inflamatory purposes.
2) Inflamatory wording of the poll.
3) As indicated by others, this topic itself is inflamatory.

Unbelievable.

What, no poll option for those of us who like all kinds of football?

1) Intentional use of "USAian" for inflamatory purposes.
2) Inflamatory wording of the poll.
3) As indicated by others, this topic itself is inflamatory.
Oh dear god, are you still on this. It wasnt flamebait and you are the only person in the world that sees it as such. I didnt use USian in a negative way and the topic certainly isnt dodgy. Since when is discussing sports inflamatory.

What, no poll option for those of us who like all kinds of football?
That would go under etc. or joke. you got two options

Oh dear god, are you still on this. It wasnt flamebait and you are the only person in the world that sees it as such. I didnt use USian in a negative way and the topic certainly isnt dodgy. Since when is discussing sports inflamatory.

Yes, you did. And in the years I've been here, every single time this topic has been posted, it has devolved into a nasty flamewar.

Yes, you did.
Its remarkable how you know my intentions and thoughts better than I

And in the years I've been here, every single time this topic has been posted, it has devolved into a nasty flamewar.
yeah, well your not helping as you are clearly flamebaiting right now

The sport I think of as "soccer" seems about fifty times more interesting to me than the sport I think of as "football." The World Cup is exciting to watch; NFL games are profoundly boring.

*cheerfully waits for someone to complain about how un-American I am*

I'm not going to say your "un-american.I'm not a troll.I will say that i think soccer games are fairly exciting but football(american) is extremly exciting to play and watch.I like both sports but american football is just my favorite and i dont think its boring at all.

Yes, you did. And in the years I've been here, every single time this topic has been posted, it has devolved into a nasty flamewar.
What - comparative football threads turn into flamewars? Since when?

What, no poll option for those of us who like all kinds of football?

Well said.Were is that option?

That would go under etc. or joke. you got two options

Ah, thanks. I vote joke then, so here goes:

Guy walks into a bar, and says "Ouch."

Its remarkable how you know my intentions and thoughts better than I

yeah, well your not helping as you are clearly flamebaiting right now

You clearly don't understand flamebaiting. Flamebaiting is inflamatory posting, such as posting a topic that always devolves into a flamewar. Point out that the topic always does so is not.

What - comparative football threads turn into flamewars? Since when?

Since, oh, about forever.

Since, oh, about forever.
News to me. Of course, not being a sports fan I wouldn't have known.


So what's your angle?

You clearly don't understand flamebaiting. Flamebaiting is inflamatory posting, such as posting a topic that always devolves into a flamewar. Point out that the topic always does so is not.


Posting a topic that has in the past devolved into a flamewar is not flamebaiting. If it were any topic in general would be flamebaiting. :p

I think you are being hypersensitive about the USian thing.

Posting a topic that has in the past devolved into a flamewar is not flamebaiting. If it were any topic in general would be flamebaiting. :p

I think you are being hypersensitive about the USian thing.

I'll leave it up to the mods.

And the USAian thing doesn't really bother me so much, but tensions in regrads to the term have been running high here recently, and I see the choice of topic combined with the choice of term as very volatile....

I'll leave it up to the mods.

And the USAian thing doesn't really bother me so much, but tensions in regrads to the term have been running high here recently, and I see the choice of topic combined with the choice of term as very volatile....
and your the only one...

1) Intentional use of "USAian" for inflamatory purposes.
2) Inflamatory wording of the poll.
3) As indicated by others, this topic itself is inflamatory.

It's asking what sport you prefer.

Anyway, football for me.

Comparing those two... the game we usually call soccer* in Australia is far better. However, Australian Rules Football beats both.

*though not officially.

Yep, Rugby Football.

....the term "USian" is used specifically to insult Americans.....I, and several other people, firmly believe that it is NO different than calling someone of African ancestry a '******'....

Quite possibly the stupidest statement I've ever read.

It's in my sig, and I am tired of explaining it. There have been several threads on the topic- but the short, short version: the term "USian" is used specifically to insult Americans. Even if you just use it because it is shorter, that doesn't excuse the original intent. I, and several other people, firmly believe that it is NO different than calling someone of African ancestry a '******'. So I do not deal with people who use that term. If you wish to debate the 'merits' of your token anti-American slang, do so in one of the threads dealing with it, because I have no wish to debate it again.

Astonishing that someone considers the name of their country to be an insult.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472784

[/Done], though since the majority on this site are non-American, its little wonder at the results.

Well, amazingly, the majority of people in the world are not USAmerican, so that's all right then.The majority are not even American, although the Canadians, Mexicans etc added to the USAmericans do add up to a hefty total; but still nowhere near a majority.

If Canadian football "kicks ass" as so you say then why are americans the best at playing football(not soccer)

USAmericans are the best in the world at playing American football because no one else in the world plays it remotely seriously. Unlike real football, whose world organisation, FIFA, has more members than the United Nations. There's a reason why it's called the World Cup.

Quite possibly the stupidest statement I've ever read.

"When the foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud." -Lao Tzu

Astonishing that someone considers the name of their country to be an insult.

Astonishing that trolls do not understand logic. Actually, not so astonishing.

Two peanuts were walking down the strasse.
And one was asaulted - peanut.

Hahahaha...

It's in my sig, and I am tired of explaining it. There have been several threads on the topic- but the short, short version: the term "USian" is used specifically to insult Americans. Even if you just use it because it is shorter, that doesn't excuse the original intent. I, and several other people, firmly believe that it is NO different than calling someone of African ancestry a '******'. So I do not deal with people who use that term. If you wish to debate the 'merits' of your token anti-American slang, do so in one of the threads dealing with it, because I have no wish to debate it again.

Interesting POV. Half a year ago I met guy from Costa Rica. Till then I called citizens of USA for Americans (easily and mostly understandable). However, this Costarican explained that calling USian for American is not nice for the rest of two Americas, as seeming that only USA is of any significance on these two continents. Not appropriate.

I think Yankees should be most clear word

Astonishing that trolls do not understand logic. Actually, not so astonishing.

I fail to see any problem either.