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World Cup: Brazil vs Australia

Greater Alemannia
18-06-2006, 15:56
Might as well get it started.

I think Brazil will win 2-0. I desperately hope Brazil wins, so our news media returns to NORMAL.
Falhaar2
18-06-2006, 15:58
I think you're probably right, although I would love it if we managed 1-1 or even 2-1 to Brazil.
I V Stalin
18-06-2006, 15:59
Can't see anything else than a Brazil win. Australia are a good team, but they're playing Brazil, and Brazil aren't favourites for nothing. 2-0, 2-1, or 3-1.
HC Eredivisie
18-06-2006, 16:09
1-0 to Australia.
Soviestan
18-06-2006, 16:10
3-0 Brazil
Danmarc
18-06-2006, 16:12
4-2 Brazil, in a very action-packed game..... Both squads are good, but Brazil is a clear dominant team.
[NS]Errinundera
18-06-2006, 16:13
I desperately hope Brazil wins, so our news media returns to NORMAL.

You're from Australia, I take it?
Capim
18-06-2006, 16:15
Brazil will win. It could be by 1 or by 3 or more.

I do not know as Brazil goes to play... if hard or if hiding as against the Croatia.
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 16:44
I guess the socceroos are good for a goal but can't really beat the Brasilians, hence my prediction of 3:1 for the South Americans.

Really hope for an action-packed, fair game. After this afternoon's game I'm ready for some eye-candy again!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/kangaroo.gifhttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/fussball.jpg
Falhaar2
18-06-2006, 16:44
Probably worth noting that Brazil may play a little cautiously, due to the widespread conception about Australia's somewhat "rougher" style. They can't afford to lose important players to injuries at this early stage in the cup.
Swilatia
18-06-2006, 16:46
Brasil!
Greater Alemannia
18-06-2006, 16:49
Errinundera']You're from Australia, I take it?

Mmm hmm.
Phenocia
18-06-2006, 16:59
Originally Posted by Falhaar2
Probably worth noting that Brazil may play a little cautiously, due to the widespread conception about Australia's somewhat "rougher" style. They can't afford to lose important players to injuries at this early stage in the cup.

That is probably true. I do think Aus are a physical team, but I don't think we play any dirtier than the others, we just mark up hard and let them know we're there. I reckon Brazil may have some problems with their usual flowing style of game while our friendly reminders of our presence distract them.

Go the Green and Gold!
:D
Giggy world
18-06-2006, 17:07
Come on Australia!

Supporting England for the Cup but if Australia & Japan could get Brazil out for us then all the easier, that and all the hype about Brazil whenever they play is annoying.

British media can say the stupidest things about Brazil.

"Everyone's 2nd team" - nope, Trinidad & Tobago are mine, I always go for underdogs.;)

"The world cup doesn't begin until Brazil have played" Then what on Earth was Germany v Costa Rica? Or any of the other games that went on before them, surely they were the start pf the competition.:headbang:
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:13
An Aussie got a yellow card :(
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 17:14
An Aussie got a yellow card :(
Not for the harmless foul but for complaining, I might add.
Thriceaddict
18-06-2006, 17:15
Is fatass Ronaldo in the starting line-up? If so, Brazil could have a hard time scoring.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 17:16
To give this thread its irrelevant girly comment: Australia looks very stylish in all black. :p
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:17
Common Australia.....

Defeat Brazil.
Demented Hamsters
18-06-2006, 17:18
Is fatass Ronaldo in the starting line-up? If so, Brazil could get have a hard time scoring.
If he gets any fatter, they could always stick him goal. He'd fill it completely and no-one would ever score against them.

Either that or one of the other Brazil players could pin a McDs voucher to the ball. That'd get fatass chasing the ball all over the pitch.
Laerod
18-06-2006, 17:18
To give this thread its irrelevant girly comment: Australia looks very stylish in all black. :pIt's more of a navy blue... All black would be the New Zealanders, wouldn't it? :D
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 17:19
To give this thread its irrelevant girly comment: Australia looks very stylish in all black. :p
Huh. And I had thought it was a very dark blue?

[Oh boy, now I feel bad because Laerod also jumped on that ;)]
Laerod
18-06-2006, 17:20
[Oh boy, now I feel bad because Laerod also jumped on that ;)]Ätsch! Ich hab's zuerst gesagt! :D
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 17:22
It's more of a navy blue... All black would be the New Zealanders, wouldn't it? :D
Fuck, seriously, navy? *rubs eyes, moves up close to the TV, and waits for close-up*
Damn, you're right! That's what happens when I don't pay attention during the anthem-playing close-ups.

I fail at being a girl. :(

And yeah, I thought they had stolen NZ's colors, just to remind them that they didn't make it to the World Cup. :p
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 17:27
Ätsch! Ich hab's zuerst gesagt! :D
Es sei Dir gegönnt!


I fail at being a girl. :(
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/taetschel.gif

On topic: I have to say, I like how the Australians are keeping Brasil in check!
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:28
Brazil gets a yellow card :)
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:31
Another Brazilian Yellow.
Laerod
18-06-2006, 17:32
Fuck, seriously, navy? *rubs eyes, moves up close to the TV, and waits for close-up*
Damn, you're right! That's what happens when I don't pay attention during the anthem-playing close-ups.

I fail at being a girl. :(

And yeah, I thought they had stolen NZ's colors, just to remind them that they didn't make it to the World Cup. :pThat would be like Klinsmann issuing orange shirts to the team, wouldn't it? :D
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 17:34
That would be like Klinsmann issuing orange shirts to the team, wouldn't it? :D
Which, incidentally, would be an awesome idea. :D
Ladamesansmerci
18-06-2006, 17:34
To give this thread its irrelevant girly comment: Australia looks very stylish in all black. :p
And lots of eye-candies on the Australian team. :D
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 17:34
That would be like Klinsmann issuing orange shirts to the team, wouldn't it? :D
Don't. Ever. Do. That. Again! You scared me: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/c3.gif

Which, incidentally, would be an awesome idea. :D
And I thought that the red shirts were terrible already!

Game still is very even I'd say. What are they waiting for?!? Score some goals!
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:36
A good try for the Brazilian team but unable to capitalize again
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:38
And yet another Yellow. This time on the Australian team.
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 17:38
A good try for the Brazilian team but unable to capitalize again
The Australian defenders are keeping close to the Brazilian offensive players (almost wrote "offenders") - that's the way to do it!
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:41
An injury to an aussie leads to the first sub of the game for either side.
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:42
OOHHH!!

The Brazilian shot goes wide.

Thank God.
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:44
The Socceroos are playing excellent Defense.
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 17:47
An excellent first half for the Aussies as they kept Brazil off the scoreboard and goes into the tunnel with a nil-nil draw.
Falhaar2
18-06-2006, 17:48
Wow, 0-0 at half time, I wasn't expecting us to hold our own as well. :)
Phenocia
18-06-2006, 17:53
Go the Aussies!!!

Not only didi we hold them off(!!!!) , but we managed to get more shots on goal than they did!!!!!
Koon Proxy
18-06-2006, 17:53
Wow. Good going for the Aussies... I'd love to see Brazil out, but it's still not looking real probable.
Falhaar2
18-06-2006, 18:01
Ronaldo is really trying to make an impression, he knows it's his ass if he fails to perform in this game, but the dude's just not in shape anymore.
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 18:07
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brazil draws first blood.
Soviestan
18-06-2006, 18:08
1-0 Brazil
Corneliu
18-06-2006, 18:14
Australia is threatening and there should've been a penalty kick in my honest opinion.
Koon Proxy
18-06-2006, 18:16
Socceroos need to make those shots count... it's 1-0 Brazil but shots are 9-5 in favor of the Aussies... you'd think one would go in eventually.
Laerod
18-06-2006, 18:20
Socceroos need to make those shots count... it's 1-0 Brazil but shots are 9-5 in favor of the Aussies... you'd think one would go in eventually.Shot ratio means jackshit in soccer...
Koon Proxy
18-06-2006, 18:49
And Brazil scores again... that'll be game.
Falhaar2
18-06-2006, 18:52
All over. Pretty much what I expected.
AB Again
18-06-2006, 19:00
Will Brazil please stop copying England. 1 - 0 and the 2 - 0 without impressing anyone. That is how England play not Brazil. This should have been 5 - 2 or something like that.

The Socceroos deserved better. They played well, but didn't take their chances.
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 19:03
Congrats to the Australians - they've played a great game, keeping the Brazilians in check for most of the game.

Should be possible for them to beat Croatia and advance to the next round.

On the other hand, the Brazilian gameplay was fairly disappointing, not so nice to watch. Sure, they made the best out of their goalshots, but that's not really surprising.
Didjawannanotherbeer
18-06-2006, 19:08
I think Brazil will win 2-0.

You were right. :( The Aussies put up a good fight, but missed a couple of golden opportunities and in the end the Brazilians were just too good.

I'm off to drown my sorrows now.
Vandirac
18-06-2006, 19:10
Brazil, as in last match, was simply terrible.

In comparison, Aussies gave a great show, especially the_captain_I_can't_remember_his_name
Greater Alemannia
18-06-2006, 19:14
Brazil, as in last match, was simply terrible.

I thought Brazil was quite good. Definitely not at they peak, but quite good nonetheless. I mean, they won, didn't they?

And yes, I correctly predicted the scoreline. Mercifully, we can get back to manufacturing newspapers that report the news now.
Von Witzleben
18-06-2006, 19:17
:( I was rooting for the Aussies. At the very least I hoped for a tie.
Phenocia
18-06-2006, 19:26
How many chances did we(Aus) have?
Kewell right infront needing only to punt it in.... lobs over the net. Unlucky the chance came so soon to coming on, but still should have een put away.
Overall the Aussies played well, Brazil on the other hand were definetely not at their best and were at times laughable ie. Ronaldo air ball, Ronaldhino stuffing up a step-over or three.

By the way Vandirac, Mark Viduka is the captain. Great first touch and strength on the ball but seems to have lost the stikers instinct for goal.
Greater Alemannia
18-06-2006, 19:26
This game left me pretty satisfied. On one hand, Australia got their comeuppance and we can return to regular media. On the other hand, Brazil was far from convincing.
Canada6
18-06-2006, 20:27
Australia played this one tactically perfect.

The Brazilian side was still able to overcome that while playing below their normal levels. Outstanding team.
Neu Leonstein
18-06-2006, 21:20
On one hand, Australia got their comeuppance and we can return to regular media.
Don't count on it. Croatia didn't beat Japan, leaving Australia second with two points advantage.

I believe Croatia needs to beat the Aussies by more than one goal now.

The Brazilian side was still able to overcome that while playing below their normal levels. Outstanding team.
No, outstanding players, not team.

Aussies were let down by two things:
1) A little lapse in concentration which left Adriano unmarked. Just like Croatia.
2) They couldn't convert their chances - Hiddink sent all men forward, and that was the reason Brazil managed to get a second.
Demented Hamsters
19-06-2006, 02:02
Don't count on it. Croatia didn't beat Japan, leaving Australia second with two points advantage.

I believe Croatia needs to beat the Aussies by more than one goal now.
No. Croatia would just need to beat Aussie. Goal diff doesn't come into it.
Oz is on 3 pts, Cro is on 1pt.
If Crotia wins, that puts them on 4pts. end of. So doesn't matter whether it's 1 - 0 or 10 - 0.

Roly Ronaldo certainly showing he's nowhere near his best. He did try a bit more this game, but his lack of fitness and pudgy spare tire definitely showed. He's not as fast as he was, and I noticed as soon as the ball went down the pitch, he would immediately stop and stand there, getting his breath back.
I'm off two minds about that. It's always sad to see a great athlete playing past their best. But then again, all he does every day is football. So there's no excuse to turn up overweight, out-of-shape and lacking fitness. Not like he can't afford the time and money to get into peak form before this comp.
Neu Leonstein
19-06-2006, 02:40
No. Croatia would just need to beat Aussie. Goal diff doesn't come into it.
Oz is on 3 pts, Cro is on 1pt.
If Crotia wins, that puts them on 4pts. end of. So doesn't matter whether it's 1 - 0 or 10 - 0.
True. I thought of that this morning. During my exam. :rolleyes:
Anyone else think I might have a short attention span?

Either way, Australia is in a stronger position for the final game than Croatia. Which has got to be a good thing.

Roly Ronaldo certainly showing he's nowhere near his best.
The whole team hasn't really looked like a potential World Cup favourite. At the moment, they'd get assraped horribly by Argentina, Spain and any given number of other teams.
AB Again
19-06-2006, 02:56
Roly Ronaldo certainly showing he's nowhere near his best. He did try a bit more this game, but his lack of fitness and pudgy spare tire definitely showed. He's not as fast as he was, and I noticed as soon as the ball went down the pitch, he would immediately stop and stand there, getting his breath back.
I'm off two minds about that. It's always sad to see a great athlete playing past their best. But then again, all he does every day is football. So there's no excuse to turn up overweight, out-of-shape and lacking fitness. Not like he can't afford the time and money to get into peak form before this comp.

Pareira messed up with his preparation for the cup. Come on, one friendly international and that against NZ is no preparation to play the other 31 best teams in the world.

Brazil in general seem to be suffering from 'God' syndrome - (the exception being Kaká) - where they think that they just have to turn up and the magic will happen. Não. You actually have to put some work into it, and not just stroll around waiting to be worshipped.

With regard to Ronaldo - he flakes out at World Cups in Europe. Does any one remember his stange problems in 1998 in France?
On the morning of the final, the mercurial striker suffered a sudden convulsive fit, which almost ruled him out of the match itself. Despite Ronaldo battling on to play, many members of the squad later admitted that the incident destabilised the team at a critical moment.

Can anyone say - here we go again?
Demented Hamsters
19-06-2006, 03:51
With regard to Ronaldo - he flakes out at World Cups in Europe. Does any one remember his stange problems in 1998 in France?


Can anyone say - here we go again?
Yes...I'm just waiting for his 'strange dizziness' to hit him again in the next couple of days. Always a good excuse for poor performance.
Demented Hamsters
19-06-2006, 03:58
Brazil in general seem to be suffering from 'God' syndrome - (the exception being Kaká) - where they think that they just have to turn up and the magic will happen. Não. You actually have to put some work into it, and not just stroll around waiting to be worshipped.
Even the coach said they play better in the WC (and no, I don't mean the Water Closet!) when they're not the favourites.
Guess cause then they actually feel they have to perform and have something to prove. Right now, it feels like they're thinking, "Yeah, we're the best. We don't need to try."

I originally thought it'd be an Argentina=Brazil final, but on the basis on their first two matches, I'm starting to think Argentina=Germany. Assuming they don't meet earlier of course.
AB Again
19-06-2006, 04:52
I see an Argentina - Spain final as a possibility (depending on this combination being possible in the fixtures).
Soviestan
19-06-2006, 05:12
I see an Argentina - Spain final as a possibility (depending on this combination being possible in the fixtures).
That game would be interesting
Greater Alemannia
19-06-2006, 07:41
True. I thought of that this morning. During my exam. :rolleyes:
Anyone else think I might have a short attention span?

Either way, Australia is in a stronger position for the final game than Croatia. Which has got to be a good thing.

I still hope Croatia wins.

The whole team hasn't really looked like a potential World Cup favourite. At the moment, they'd get assraped horribly by Argentina, Spain and any given number of other teams.

What about Germany >_<
Harlesburg
19-06-2006, 07:52
Pareira messed up with his preparation for the cup. Come on, one friendly international and that against NZ is no preparation to play the other 31 best teams in the world.

Brazil in general seem to be suffering from 'God' syndrome - (the exception being Kaká) - where they think that they just have to turn up and the magic will happen. Não. You actually have to put some work into it, and not just stroll around waiting to be worshipped.

With regard to Ronaldo - he flakes out at World Cups in Europe. Does any one remember his stange problems in 1998 in France?


Can anyone say - here we go again?
Kaka is a devote Catholic i think, his name also means shit.:D

Australia will not lose to the Corats!
Neu Leonstein
19-06-2006, 08:15
I still hope Croatia wins.
I just wonder why. I think this is great - I know what it's like to have a team that can perform and often does.
I find that this World Cup is the most exciting I've ever had because I can go for Australia and genuinely be excited about it, and celebrate every minute of every game they have managed to qualify for. I think it's awesome.

And when Grella tried to amputate Ronaldo's leg - I laughed. :D

What about Germany >_<
I'm not changing my stance yet. They're my team and I support them, but for the time being I don't know how well they can perform. Semifinals should be the goal, Quarterfinals might be more realistic. Anything more will be a great bonus.
And I find that finally they play exciting football. Because to be honest, it hasn't exactly been their strong point in the past decade or so.
Boonytopia
19-06-2006, 08:16
I thought Australia played pretty well, we pretty much matched Brasil for most of the game. The lapse of concentration early on in the second half, and our failure to put away some excellent chances cost us in the end.

All in all, I think it's pretty positive for us going into the Croatia game. A draw & we're through, a win would be fantastic.

These late nights are killing me though. The Brazil game started at 2am, the Croatia game will be at 4am!
Harlesburg
19-06-2006, 11:55
Pareira messed up with his preparation for the cup. Come on, one friendly international and that against NZ is no preparation to play the other 31 best teams in the world.

Brazil in general seem to be suffering from 'God' syndrome - (the exception being Kaká) - where they think that they just have to turn up and the magic will happen. Não. You actually have to put some work into it, and not just stroll around waiting to be worshipped.

With regard to Ronaldo - he flakes out at World Cups in Europe. Does any one remember his stange problems in 1998 in France?


Can anyone say - here we go again?
Hey, Brazil have played lesser nations previously before World Cups apparently.
That game was bloody awesome and 2-0 would have been a fairer result with the way the two teams played just like the Confederations Cup in '99 heck if we had some Strikers or at least someone who had actually put the ball in the net we could very well have won.

Tommy Smyth with a y likes Brazil's policy mind you he is a crazy Irishman who sold his soul to America.

unless FIFA shafts us we'll be at he next Cup!
i can't believe you questioned New Zealands worth as a Footballing nation.:(
Canada6
19-06-2006, 12:21
And when Grella tried to amputate Ronaldo's leg - I laughed. :D

That's just sad.
Neu Leonstein
20-06-2006, 00:16
That's just sad.
I hold football grudges. For a long time.

Do you know the name "Letchkov"? I do. Oh, how well I know that name......
Harlesburg
20-06-2006, 08:43
I hold football grudges. For a long time.

Do you know the name "Letchkov"? I do. Oh, how well I know that name......
LOL Bulgaria.
The '94 World Cup was run with about as much logic as the last Cricket World Cup or the Rugby World Cup in '99!:p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_World_Cup_1994

Although Russia was knocked out in the first stage of the competition, striker Oleg Salenko still managed to finish as the tournament's joint top scorer alongside Hristo Stoitchkov with six goals. Salenko scored five of his six goals in a single match, a World Cup record.
Harlesburg
20-06-2006, 13:06
Australian winger Harry Kewell could be suspended for his team's final group match against Croatia on Thursday after he was accused on Tuesday of insulting a World Cup referee.

German referee Markus Merk has alleged that the 27-year-old insulted him several times after the final whistle of Australia's 2-0 defeat to Brazil in Group F in Munich on Monday.

Kewell was not booked by the referee but Merk put the incident in his official report to FIFA and the matter will be dealt with by FIFA's disciplinary committee on Tuesday or Wednesday.

FIFA spokesman Markus Siegler confirmed that the case was being dealt with by the disciplinary body who have the ultimate decision when it comes to deciding on the length of suspensions at the World Cup.

Kewell missed the Socceroos' practice session at Oehringen on Tuesday to undergo treatment on a nagging groin strain but assistant coach Graham Arnold said the Australians were seeking legal advice to determine their next course of action.

"It's a concern that he may miss the Croatian game so the lawyers are looking into it," Arnold told reporters.

"Normally you get a card and the referee normally books you on the field but that didn't happen and that's the confusion at the moment."

Arnold said Kewell's behaviour was out of character but was borne from frustration after Merk awarded 25 fouls against the Australians and just nine against Brazil.

"It's very unlike Harry Kewell to react like that but it was a bit of frustration, not only on his part but all the team's part, on some of the decisions," Arnold said.

"The fact that (Australia captain) Mark Viduka tried to speak to the referee but he wouldn't have a bit of it just frustrated the players even more.

"Unfortunately, Australia is still viewed as a small footballing nation and we get penalised for it."

Siegler also confirmed that the case against Italian midfielder Daniele De Rossi would be heard by the disciplinary committee by June 24.

De Rossi was shown an instant red card for elbowing Brian McBride in the face during Italy's 1-1 draw with the United States on Sunday.

He will definitely miss Italy's final group match against the Czech Republic in Hamburg on Friday but is also likely to be banned for longer.

FIFA also confirmed that Czech defender Tomas Ujfalusi, who was sent off in their 2-0 defeat to Ghana on Sunday, would also be banned for the match against Italy.
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/454218/755687
Neu Leonstein
20-06-2006, 13:16
That's been cleared up already. He can play.
Fangmania
20-06-2006, 13:17
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/454218/755687

the case has been heard and thrown out over an hour ago. He's free to play - not that he has been to valuable so far....
Boonytopia
20-06-2006, 13:20
It's OK, he hasn't been banned.

Kewell cleared to play Croatia
20 June 2006
by Reuters

Harry Kewell has been cleared by FIFA to play in Australia's final Group F World Cup match against Croatia on Thursday after he was reported for confronting the referee after their 2-0 defeat by Brazil.
Kewell, who came on as a substitute in the loss to the world champions on Sunday, was seen waving his finger at German referee Markus Merk after the final whistle.

Full article. (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060620/7/7wxk.html)
Neu Leonstein
20-06-2006, 13:22
He's free to play - not that he has been to valuable so far....
Now, that's a little unfair. He hasn't been at his absolute best, but whenever he gets the ball, things start to happen. And against Brazil he had at least two good chances.
Cahill might have scored the goals, but he didn't seem to contribute nearly as much to the team other than that.
Peisandros
20-06-2006, 13:26
the case has been heard and thrown out over an hour ago. He's free to play - not that he has been to valuable so far....
Kewell hasn't been that bad. Not amazing, but not unvaluable.
Harlesburg
20-06-2006, 13:27
the case has been heard and thrown out over an hour ago. He's free to play - not that he has been to valuable so far....
I said he was crap.

The reason i posted it was because i got the impression from what i read here yesterday that the ref was great and when i saw Kewells 'alleged' outburst in the paper i was thinking O_o.