NationStates Jolt Archive

United States/European Union/United Nations: All right, you two. I don't care who started what, but this ends here. I think we can settle on a compromise. For starters, the United States will not continue sending blank checks to Israel until Israel stops building the wall that divides Palestinian communities and ends its policies of self-defeat towards the Palestinians. Alright?

Israel: Fine.

European Union: And in exchange, Palestinian Authority, you have to condemtn suicide bombing and do everything you can to stop it. Otherwise we'll stop providing aid.

Palestinian Authority: Okay.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to decide a country. Israel gets to remain a majority Jewish state but has to give full civil and political rights to both Jews and Palestinians. In exchange, a Palestinian state is created that includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and has its capital at the Palestinian part of Jerusalem. We will be setting up a permanent international armed peacekeeping force to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: That sounds good to us.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Israel: All right.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Arabs, you have to acknowledge that an equal number of Jews were kicked out of Arab lands where they had lived for thousands of years when Israel was created.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: I guess we can live with that.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Good. Problem solved.

Eh just nuke them both and be done with it. In fact, nuke the whole damn middle east.

That's a mighty purty dream.

Of course everyone else's dream here in NSG is "Let's Nuke Mecca, Nuke All the Sand Niggers and keep giving those blank checks to Israel."

That will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever e....*passes out* *10 minutes pass**wakes up* ...ver ever ever happen

That will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever e....*passes out* *10 minutes pass**wakes up* ...ver ever ever happen

That's why it's called a dream.

Eh just nuke them both and be done with it. In fact, nuke the whole damn middle east.


Or, bulldoze it and turn it into the world's largest McDonald's.

Or, bulldoze it and turn it into the world's largest McDonald's.

Nah, it would be the world's biggest Wal-Mart!

Nah, it would be the world's biggest Wal-Mart!

No, no, Starbucks.

Or, bulldoze it and turn it into the world's largest McDonald's.
:rolleyes:

I now officially hate you.

edit:
Nah, it would be the world's biggest Wal-Mart!
You too.

No, no, Starbucks.

Don't even get me started on Starbucks.

:rolleyes:

I now officially hate you.


Et tu, Ladamesan...some long name im not gonna bother to type?

That's a mighty purty dream.

Of course everyone else's dream here in NSG is "Let's Nuke Mecca, Nuke All the Sand Niggers and keep giving those blank checks to Israel."

Yeah, that's why this'll never happen.

Don't even get me started on Starbucks.


MMMM...ridiculously expensive yet sucky coffee.

You too.

and I care because....

Africa would be a better nuking target. Theres so much land and the people cant get their shit together. If the west runs out of space, I say thats the 1st place we go if we need breathing space.

Africa would be a better nuking target. Theres so much land and the people cant get their shit together. If the west runs out of space, I say thats the 1st place we go if we need breathing space.

Meh then we would get complaints from blacks here in the US for racially profiling because we're nuking black countries.

Meh then we would get complaints from blacks here in the US for racially profiling because we're nuking black countries.
I guess you cant win either way, eh

As a more interesting random question that has occured to me: Ladamesansmerci, what does your name mean? I think I understand part of it that means "without" or "no" thanks(sans merci, if I am interpreting this correctly) but I don't know what Ladame is.

As for the topic: A nice idea. Relies way too much on reasonability. No, there is a realistic way to solve the problem. We just haven't figured it out yet.

Because, you know, a border wall is that much more egregious than firing rockets and operating suicide attacks in order to kill civilians. :rolleyes:

Get rid of the troublesome Israel.

They probably wouldn't accept the deal and choose to keep fighting (at least for a while) - although I think the idea of stopping paying for this war (ie funding both sides) would help in the long run.

They probably wouldn't accept the deal and choose to keep fighting (at least for a while) - although I think the idea of stopping paying for this war (ie funding both sides) would help in the long run.

Everyone's cut the funding for the Palestinian PA, which was next to nothing compared to what Israel gets anyway. Nevertheless, it would help in the long run.

Get rid of troublesome israel

You can't. Israel proper has a population of, what, seven million? They are causing no more or less trouble than the terrorists. Which is why there has to be two states: keep them as far apart from each other as possible. And it is only Israel that can grant a state to Palestine, not the other way round.

That's a mighty purty dream.

Of course everyone else's dream here in NSG is "Let's Nuke Mecca, Nuke All the Sand Niggers and keep giving those blank checks to Israel."

Not really. I actually like the OP's dream a hell of a lot better.

My dream for solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves me having sex with Salma Hayek until there is peace in the middle east.

My dream for solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves me having sex with Salma Hayek until there is peace in the middle east.
Now that's a damn nice, if self-serving, dream. :D

My dream for solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves me having sex with Salma Hayek until there is peace in the middle east.

I like the way you think, Gartref. Sadly, Salma probably won't. :(

As a more interesting random question that has occured to me: Ladamesansmerci, what does your name mean? I think I understand part of it that means "without" or "no" thanks(sans merci, if I am interpreting this correctly) but I don't know what Ladame is.

:D Not a fan of Keats, are we? (Assuming you haven't taken your high school level English lit. course yet...)

"La Belle Dame Sans Merci" (http://www.bartleby.com/126/55.html), or "the Beautiful Lady Without Mercy", is a rather famous Keats poem. The original title is from a 15th century poem by Alain Chartier.

United States/European Union/United Nations: All right, you two. I don't care who started what, but this ends here. I think we can settle on a compromise. For starters, the United States will not continue sending blank checks to Israel until Israel stops building the wall that divides Palestinian communities and ends its policies of self-defeat towards the Palestinians. Alright?

Israel: Fine.

European Union: And in exchange, Palestinian Authority, you have to condemtn suicide bombing and do everything you can to stop it. Otherwise we'll stop providing aid.

Palestinian Authority: Okay.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to decide a country. Israel gets to remain a majority Jewish state but has to give full civil and political rights to both Jews and Palestinians. In exchange, a Palestinian state is created that includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and has its capital at the Palestinian part of Jerusalem. We will be setting up a permanent international armed peacekeeping force to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: That sounds good to us.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Israel: All right.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Arabs, you have to acknowledge that an equal number of Jews were kicked out of Arab lands where they had lived for thousands of years when Israel was created.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: I guess we can live with that.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Good. Problem solved.


Really, right now the only means of settling the problem I can think involves surrounding Israel and Palestine with a magic force field - nothing can pass out of it. Open it up in 100 years, and check if the survivors have made peace. If not, repeat until they've done so.

I think a lot of the mistakes made regarding Israel/Palastine were made in the very early days.

The Israeli constitution never got written because people could not agree on it, and so for the first few years Israel pretty much drifted along following their instincts. It turned out though that their instincts included alienating the Israeli Arabs (predominantly Christian, wholely support the Israeli state) and downright persecuting the Palestinians.

But since these early mistakes the wounds have run too deep on both sides to afford an easy solution, which is a shame, as your dream seems good.

OP, your dream is naive because it doesn't take account of the fact that both sides are complete bastards.

The best way to resolve the conflict is to stop fuelling the fire. The US and Europe must stop subsidising the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority. Draught UN Reolutions prohibiting the sale of arms and funding of either side, and use all economic and military means to enforce it on the many "allies" of Palestine in the Middle East. Governments should start to recognise Palestine as a real country.

If both sides have to fund their own wars, they cannot continue indefinitely. They may run out of guns, out of people, out of ammo, political will, or maybe the mothers of Israel and Palestine will simply no longer tolerate their sons and daughters going out to kill and die.

United States/European Union/United Nations: All right, you two. I don't care who started what, but this ends here. I think we can settle on a compromise. For starters, the United States will not continue sending blank checks to Israel until Israel stops building the wall that divides Palestinian communities and ends its policies of self-defeat towards the Palestinians. Alright?

Israel: Fine.

European Union: And in exchange, Palestinian Authority, you have to condemtn suicide bombing and do everything you can to stop it. Otherwise we'll stop providing aid.

Palestinian Authority: Okay.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to decide a country. Israel gets to remain a majority Jewish state but has to give full civil and political rights to both Jews and Palestinians. In exchange, a Palestinian state is created that includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and has its capital at the Palestinian part of Jerusalem. We will be setting up a permanent international armed peacekeeping force to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: That sounds good to us.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Israel: All right.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Arabs, you have to acknowledge that an equal number of Jews were kicked out of Arab lands where they had lived for thousands of years when Israel was created.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: I guess we can live with that.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Good. Problem solved.
This is quite close to what will eventually happen. All you nay-sayers have no idea what vitality, work, and hope in Israel and the Palestinian territories mean. Your dream isn't in the least far-fetched.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Flaw

This isnt true. The Israleie government did not create this problem. Nor in fairness did the Palistianins themselves. The problem was created by the Arab states who declared war on Israel after its creation. Israel had no problem with the Palistianins living there with them. They left because of the war, they did not want to live in what would be a war zone. The new Isralie government urgred Arabs to remain in their homes as the war began, but they left. And after the war, the Isralie government passed a law saying the Arabs could return if they did three things
1. Renounce viloence
2. Become Isralie citizens
3. Become peaceful/productive members of society

Flaw

This isnt true. The Israleie government did not create this problem. Nor in fairness did the Palistianins themselves. The problem was created by the Arab states who declared war on Israel after its creation. Israel had no problem with the Palistianins living there with them. They left because of the war, they did not want to live in what would be a war zone. The new Isralie government urgred Arabs to remain in their homes as the war began, but they left. And after the war, the Isralie government passed a law saying the Arabs could return if they did three things
1. Renounce viloence
2. Become Isralie citizens
3. Become peaceful/productive members of society

The problem is, most Palestinians would quite literally die than become Israeli citizens (Or at least, it seems that way). That's because Israel is created as a semi-theocratic Jewish state. Just as many Jews would dislike being suddenly told thery were Iranians living under sharia law, many Arab Palestinians would dislike being suddenly Israeli.

Suddenly creating a nation from nowhere is going to create refugees, and Israel has to accept that. However, if there was a two-state solution, an independent Palestine could cover some of the responsibility.

The problem is, most Palestinians would quite literally die than become Israeli citizens (Or at least, it seems that way). That's because Israel is created as a semi-theocratic Jewish state.

Hmm a semi-theocratic state that gives all its citizens the vote, allows them to practise their religion and allows them to have political parties, sounds rather like a western democracy to me.

Anyways... how to obtain peace between Israel and the palestinians

1. nuke israel until everyone in it is dead (solution preferred by extremist muslims)
2. nuke the palestinians until they are all dead (solution preferred by extremist zionists
3. extend the Israeli barrier until its about 6 miles tall and surrounds both Israel and palestine, leave to simmer.

Flaw

This isnt true. The Israleie government did not create this problem. Nor in fairness did the Palistianins themselves. The problem was created by the Arab states who declared war on Israel after its creation. Israel had no problem with the Palistianins living there with them.

According to Benny Morris in "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949", 228 villages were deserted because of attack, 41 expelled directly, 90 fled for fear of attacks such as those that affected others, and 6 fled at the behest of what Palestinian authorities there were.

An examination of the thoughts of Ben Gurion and the Israeli leadership in 1947-48 show that they wanted the population gone, and not to come back.


They left because of the war, they did not want to live in what would be a war zone. The new Isralie government urgred Arabs to remain in their homes as the war began, but they left. And after the war, the Isralie government passed a law saying the Arabs could return if they did three things
1. Renounce viloence
2. Become Isralie citizens
3. Become peaceful/productive members of society

Entirely untrue. There was no general offer for all those expelled to return ever made, and those included in the offer above had to come with Gaza.

As to the opening post, all that is required for that to happen is the US get sense.

[QUOTE=Cypresaria]Hmm a semi-theocratic state that gives all its citizens the vote, allows them to practise their religion and allows them to have political parties, sounds rather like a western democracy to me.[QUOTE=Arturious]

The Israeli government has an established religion, as well as religious courts, clerics elected by the Knesset and the government gives jewish immigrants priority over all else.

Notice I said Semi-Theocratic, not a Theocracy.

[QUOTE=Cypresaria]Anyways... how to obtain peace between Israel and the palestinians

1. nuke israel until everyone in it is dead (solution preferred by extremist muslims)
2. nuke the palestinians until they are all dead (solution preferred by extremist zionists
3. extend the Israeli barrier until its about 6 miles tall and surrounds both Israel and palestine, leave to simmer.[QUOTE=Arturious]

Or a mixture of the three...

I really, really don't see how any logically minded human being in the Western world could consider dealing with the Palestinians as anything other than an enemy.

Consider:

http://www.pmw.org.il/LatestBulletins.htm#b220606

The following is the transcript of selections from the Hamas video:

"We will rule the nations, by Allah's will, the USA will be conquered, Israel will be conquered, Rome and Britain will be conquered…
The Jihad for Allah... is the way of Truth and the way for Salvation and the way which will lead us to crush the Jews and expel them from our country Palestine. Just as the Jews ran from Gaza, the Americans will run from Iraq and Afghanistan and the Russians will run from Chechnya, and the Indian will run from Kashmir, and our children will be released from Guantanamo. The prisoners will be released by Allah's will, not by peaceful means and not by agreements, but they will be released by the sword, they will be released by the gun".

The video identifies itself as from the "Al-Qassam Brigades Media Office." "Al-Qassam Brigades" is the name the Hamas calls its military wing.

And the West is supposed to treat these savages from the seventh century as sincere partners looking for peace? Bullshit.

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And the West is supposed to treat these savages from the seventh century as sincere partners looking for peace? Bullshit.

And what of the settlers?

According to Benny Morris in "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949", 228 villages were deserted because of attack, 41 expelled directly, 90 fled for fear of attacks such as those that affected others, and 6 fled at the behest of what Palestinian authorities there were.

If Israel only expelled 41 villages out of 359, that doesn't exactly support your anti-Israeli stance. It seems like you're trying to blame Israel for the fact, but that wasn't Morris' stance at all. The 228 villages were deserted because of the war, a war that was started by Arab countries.

So, aside from the fact that Morris only acknowledges that 6 villages fled by request of Palestinian authorities - and 6 villages disbanding due to Arab propaganda is still significant number - the fact that 318 Arab villages in Palestine, the majority of which were in the land partitioned for a Palestinian state, were disbanded is still the fault of Arab countries, because the war, the fear of attacks, etc. were a result of the Arab countries who attacked first and invaded the land partitioned for a Palestinian state.

The reason those villages were abandoned, contrary to the way you're attempting to present Morris' statistics, was due to fear of Arab attack. The reason a Palestinian state does not exist today is because during the 1948 war most of the land partitioned for a Palestinian state was stolen by neighboring Arab countries.

The Israeli government has an established religion, as well as religious courts, clerics elected by the Knesset and the government gives jewish immigrants priority over all else.

Notice I said Semi-Theocratic, not a Theocracy.

Actually there is no official government religion, or any state sanctioned religion. Jews are given priority for Israeli immigration via Jewish ethnicity, rather than by the premise that it is a strictly religious endeavor. This is why secular Jews, Jewish atheists, etc. can immigrate to Israel. Immigration laws for Jews can be complicated, however, and do vary from halacha to people who would not be considered Jewish by halacha, while also allowing people who are Jewish via halacha to immigrate for that virtue.

Religious courts only hold nominal power over specific issues, like marriage. You can go outside those to get the same civil unions as well.

What you have to remember is that a theocracy is a country whose government is a rule by religious leaders. Israel is run by secular leaders. A strong religious influence in select legal issues, like marriage, does not make it resemble a theocracy in any way. Calling Israel a theocracy, or semi-theocracy, for that would be like calling the United States a semi-theocracy because it doesnt allow gay marriage (which has its roots in religious prohibitions against homosexuality). There are many laws on the books in many secular countries with religious roots, but this does not make them theocratic countries in the slightest.

Complete media and military blackout of the entire region for three years, no questions asked. Whoever wins, wins. *nod* (But only because Israel will pwn the others. ;))

:D Not a fan of Keats, are we? (Assuming you haven't taken your high school level English lit. course yet...)

"La Belle Dame Sans Merci" (http://www.bartleby.com/126/55.html), or "the Beautiful Lady Without Mercy", is a rather famous Keats poem. The original title is from a 15th century poem by Alain Chartier.
hmmmm ladamesansmerci always translates to "heartless bitch" in my head. i guess i need to read more keats.

United States/European Union/United Nations: All right, you two. I don't care who started what, but this ends here. I think we can settle on a compromise. For starters, the United States will not continue sending blank checks to Israel until Israel stops building the wall that divides Palestinian communities and ends its policies of self-defeat towards the Palestinians. Alright?

Israel: Fine.

European Union: And in exchange, Palestinian Authority, you have to condemtn suicide bombing and do everything you can to stop it. Otherwise we'll stop providing aid.

Palestinian Authority: Okay.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to decide a country. Israel gets to remain a majority Jewish state but has to give full civil and political rights to both Jews and Palestinians. In exchange, a Palestinian state is created that includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and has its capital at the Palestinian part of Jerusalem. We will be setting up a permanent international armed peacekeeping force to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: That sounds good to us.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Israel: All right.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Arabs, you have to acknowledge that an equal number of Jews were kicked out of Arab lands where they had lived for thousands of years when Israel was created.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: I guess we can live with that.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Good. Problem solved.

a really powerfull bomb should do the trick....i hate to see kids hurt...but if we could incenerate the region....and it saves other kids lives....go for the blast...they are all freakin mental anyway.

Have israel build the wall, and pretty much GTFO out of any of the areas that are under palistinian control. And because HAMAS/PJ will continue to shoot rockets off into israel, drop a planeload of bombs onto whatever area the rockets are fired from.

You cannot give Jeruslem to either party it should be a free city indipendat of any nation...A UN mandate???


United States/European Union/United Nations: All right, you two. I don't care who started what, but this ends here. I think we can settle on a compromise. For starters, the United States will not continue sending blank checks to Israel until Israel stops building the wall that divides Palestinian communities and ends its policies of self-defeat towards the Palestinians. Alright?

Israel: Fine.

European Union: And in exchange, Palestinian Authority, you have to condemtn suicide bombing and do everything you can to stop it. Otherwise we'll stop providing aid.

Palestinian Authority: Okay.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to decide a country. Israel gets to remain a majority Jewish state but has to give full civil and political rights to both Jews and Palestinians. In exchange, a Palestinian state is created that includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and has its capital at the Palestinian part of Jerusalem. We will be setting up a permanent international armed peacekeeping force to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: That sounds good to us.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Israel: All right.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Arabs, you have to acknowledge that an equal number of Jews were kicked out of Arab lands where they had lived for thousands of years when Israel was created.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: I guess we can live with that.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Good. Problem solved.

You cannot give Jeruslem to either party it should be a free city indipendat of any nation...A UN mandate???

Jerusalem has traditionally been a predominately Jewish city. It had a majority Jewish population since the crusades, and has a majority Jewish population today.

The exception is East Jerusalem, a portion that is essentially the Arab sector. It became this way when Jews were displaced as a result of Jordanian occupation. Giving a city that has a Jewish or Arab population to be under international control is absurd, and is only used as a political tool by international groups such as when the League of Nations proposed it, or when the UN proposes it. It would make more sense to split the city in half, letting the Jewish part be controlled by Israel and the Arab part to be controlled by a future Palestinian state, or to give the entire thing to Israel since it has a majority Jewish population.

United States/European Union/United Nations: All right, you two. I don't care who started what, but this ends here. I think we can settle on a compromise. For starters, the United States will not continue sending blank checks to Israel until Israel stops building the wall that divides Palestinian communities and ends its policies of self-defeat towards the Palestinians. Alright?

Israel: Fine.

European Union: And in exchange, Palestinian Authority, you have to condemtn suicide bombing and do everything you can to stop it. Otherwise we'll stop providing aid.

Palestinian Authority: Okay.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to decide a country. Israel gets to remain a majority Jewish state but has to give full civil and political rights to both Jews and Palestinians. In exchange, a Palestinian state is created that includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and has its capital at the Palestinian part of Jerusalem. We will be setting up a permanent international armed peacekeeping force to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: That sounds good to us.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Israel: All right.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Arabs, you have to acknowledge that an equal number of Jews were kicked out of Arab lands where they had lived for thousands of years when Israel was created.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: I guess we can live with that.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Good. Problem solved.

my dream...they realise they are no different!

Okay, here's my plan for peace, instead.

1.Borders Israel and Palestine would have their borders set by the United Nations, with a special delegation from Israel/Palestine. We've seen that neither is capable of doing it themselves. Israeli colonies on the border, parts of the Ariel Bloc, Gush Etzion Bloc and some Jewish parts around East Jerusalem would be retained by Israel, while East Jerusalem and all else past the 1967 border would be Palestinian. Jews in Palestinian territory would be offered citizenship, and a future Palestinian Constitution would ensure their rights.

2. Barrier If Israel so wishes, a security barrier may run on the route roughly described above.

3. Occupation Israel would withdraw, and be replaced by a special UN task force, possibly with Chinese/Indian soldiers, instead of EU/US. Internal roadblocks, checkpoints, barriers etc would be removed, to help allieveate tension and help economic growth. UN occupation would last until democractisation is complete and the economy and infrastructure/welfaire stable.

4. Terrror Terrorist groups would be dismantled, and through the deoocratisation process in an Independent State, the argument that violence is necessary would become void as a democratic government took actual control. Funding and Aid would go to projects 'on the ground' instead of any Hamas-Led government under UN occupation

5. Funding Israel No blank cheques to Israel, likewise to Palestine, until both adhere to the Peace Plan. However, funding would resume after.

Jerusalem has traditionally been a predominately Jewish city. It had a majority Jewish population since the crusades, and has a majority Jewish population today.

The exception is East Jerusalem, a portion that is essentially the Arab sector. It became this way when Jews were displaced as a result of Jordanian occupation. Giving a city that has a Jewish or Arab population to be under international control is absurd, and is only used as a political tool by international groups such as when the League of Nations proposed it, or when the UN proposes it. It would make more sense to split the city in half, letting the Jewish part be controlled by Israel and the Arab part to be controlled by a future Palestinian state, or to give the entire thing to Israel since it has a majority Jewish population.

Split it in half, as Jewish settlements along the border should remain in Israel, Arab sectors on the border should remain Arab. East Jerusalem is only a small part of the City, and if it were a Palestinian Capital, I'm sure that reconcillation between Israel and palestine would be much easier.

United States/European Union/United Nations: All right, you two. I don't care who started what, but this ends here. I think we can settle on a compromise. For starters, the United States will not continue sending blank checks to Israel until Israel stops building the wall that divides Palestinian communities and ends its policies of self-defeat towards the Palestinians. Alright?

Israel: Fuck you! Nobody owns the land we're building the wall on, so you have no right to tell us what to do! And no! We don't, and never will, recognise that Palestinians own land & have for generations. It isn't stealing if you don't recognise people own it. Ha!

European Union: And in exchange, Palestinian Authority, you have to condemtn suicide bombing and do everything you can to stop it. Otherwise we'll stop providing aid.

Palestinian Authority: Okay. That is to say; we'll condemn terrorism really strongly, while arming religious fascists to their teeth & helping them enter Israel.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to decide a country. Israel gets to remain a majority Jewish state but has to give full civil and political rights to both Jews and Palestinians. In exchange, a Palestinian state is created that includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and has its capital at the Palestinian part of Jerusalem. We will be setting up a permanent international armed peacekeeping force to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Israel: Never! We want Jerusalem & the occupied territories. The dirty Moslem donkeys can fuck off back where they belong - which is out in the sea.

Palestinian Authority: Never! We want all of Israel & the occupied territories. The Filthy Jewish heathens can fuck off back where they belong - which is out in the sea.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Now, to solve the refugee problem. Israel, you admit that you're responsible for creating the 1948 Palestinian refugees and that your Jewish state is founded upon displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and their descendants.

Israel: Never! We legitimately bought a portion of our territory from people that had very little to do with it, and our terrorist heroes fought long & hard for the creation of the state of Israel. The refugees left voluntarily, so they have no claims at all. They could have remained here & gotten killed & robbed. Besides, Moslem donkeys aren't people.

United States/European Union/United Nations: Arabs, you have to acknowledge that an equal number of Jews were kicked out of Arab lands where they had lived for thousands of years when Israel was created.

Israel/Palestinian Authority: Never! They are not people & they offend our loving God so much they have to die horribly. We admit some might have gotten kicked out by mistake, but you should thank us for our endless mercy, because we really meant to kill them.

United States/European Union/United Nations: *Sigh* Now where'd we stash those nukes?

Jerusalem has traditionally been a predominately Jewish city. It had a majority Jewish population since the crusades, and has a majority Jewish population today.

So?

Constantinople had traditionally been a Western/Roman predominately Christian city. Not anymore.

New York had traditionally been a Dutch city. Not any more.

London traditionally was a predominately Anglo city. Not any more.

Things change. People move and migrate. Jerusalem should be no different.