NationStates Jolt Archive

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Early years of humanity, the peak of civilisation found in Japan and China.

Later years, the middle east.

Later, Italy

Later, Britain and French empires

Presently, America.

America is in a fall, and China, India and Japan are rising, does this mean there is a cycle? :D

Prove it wrong!!!

ok... bear with me ;)


Early years of humanity, the peak of civilisation found in Japan and China.

Later years, the middle east.

Later, Italy

Later, Britain and French empires

Presently, America.

America is in a fall, and China, India and Japan are rising, does this mean there is a cycle? :D

Prove it wrong!!!
Besides the fact that the peak of civilization was in the islamic world, then china, then europe?

Besides the fact that the peak of civilization was in the islamic world, then china, then europe?

Ahh but how are you measuring civilization? Im measuring through technology i should say.

Or relevant technology.

Besides the fact that the peak of civilization was in the islamic world, then china, then europe?


Beat me to it!

Ahh but how are you measuring civilization? Im measuring through technology i should say.

Or relevant technology.


But technology=/= civilized. Take for example the empires in Africa, or the North American Indians, they didn't have the best technology, but they were still civilized.

But technology=/= civilized. Take for example the empires in Africa, or the North American Indians, they didn't have the best technology, but they were still civilized.

Meh. point taken, i admit my choice of words could be better. apologies.
point stands, technological dominance moves west.

Ahh but how are you measuring civilization? Im measuring through technology i should say.

Or relevant technology.
The islamic world was the baston of technology following the fall of Rome.

Meh. point taken, i admit my choice of words could be better. apologies.
point stands, technological dominance moves west.


I might be able to see that...But then again, you look at South America, it seems to have missed the whole dominance thing, and it is west of previous more technologized areas.

I might be able to see that...But then again, you look at South America, it seems to have missed the whole dominance thing, and it is west of previous more technologized areas.

Meh, maybe it goes.

Eastasia, Middle east, Central europe, northwestern europe, north america, Eastasia, Middle east, Central europe, northwestern europe, north america,
Australasia, Africa, South America, Australasia, Africa, South America,

Meh, maybe it goes.

Eastasia, Middle east, Central europe, northwestern europe, north america, Eastasia, Middle east, Central europe, northwestern europe, north america,
Australasia, Africa, South America, Australasia, Africa, South America,


Now my head hurts again...-cries-

Just think about fluffy kittens....:fluffle:

ok... bear with me ;)


Early years of humanity, the peak of civilisation found in Japan and China.

Later years, the middle east.

Later, Italy

Later, Britain and French empires

Presently, America.

America is in a fall, and China, India and Japan are rising, does this mean there is a cycle? :D

Prove it wrong!!!
you missed the Spanish Empire

you missed the Spanish Empire

Ah yes apologies.

Considering power moved east after the fall of Rome, no.

Hmm, besides Egypt, there has yet to be a great African Empire, or world power....that would be freakin crazy man...could anyone see that happening? my guess is that it would take a century or two, not within our lifetimes....

Considering power moved east after the fall of Rome, no.


But if you were on the north pole and looking south, then it would have moved to the left. and left equals west:rolleyes:

Hmm, besides Egypt, there has yet to be a great African Empire, or world power....that would be freakin crazy man...could anyone see that happening? my guess is that it would take a century or two, not within our lifetimes....


Are you serious? Read this (http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h15-af.htm). You have the Askum(sp), ethiopia, the mandigos and so forth. they were great empires. Don't forget about when the Muslims spread in Africa, like North africa, you know the moors, they conquered a good part of spain.

But if you were on the north pole and looking south, then it would have moved to the left. and left equals west:rolleyes:

But that also reverses all the other movements... WAIT

IDEA: We've forgotten about the poles swifting!!! :eek: