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Is Sex The Main Motivation for Human Male Achievement?

Xislakilinia
17-06-2006, 11:33
I mean guys say they work like crazy for ideals like world peace or to cure diseases or whatever.

So does that make me the only man who is slogging his ass off so that he can have a decent boink with a meaty babe someday? Come on!

Hey I'm not just making this up to make meself feel better (though it does :D ). Studies have shown that many stupid exaggerated behaviors of young men have been linked with impressing potential sex partners. Some of these are truely "Darwin Award" worthy.

Besides, angst-ridden arty and sciency outbursts seem to die down after the protagonists settles down to a more fulfilling sexual environment. Like George Lucas after having kids. :rolleyes:

Am I right?
Fass
17-06-2006, 11:34
Let me guess, this is gonna be yet another poll, right?
BogMarsh
17-06-2006, 11:36
Let me guess, this is gonna be yet another poll, right?


*prepares a 'Does Fass love or hate polls?'-poll.
Fass
17-06-2006, 11:38
*prepares a 'Does Fass love or hate polls?'-poll.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488084
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487590
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488081
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487296
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486354
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486005
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=485194
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=485165
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481679
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483635
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=482842
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481861
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481699

See for yourself - that's just a small selection of what a thread start search yields for this poster. It's a poll spammer.

Four polls on the front page at the same time. Give it a bloody rest already.
The Beautiful Darkness
17-06-2006, 11:39
Yes.

Men deny it, but sex is a natural driving force.

I just wish sex would motivate me to work harder at uni :p
HotRodia
17-06-2006, 11:40
It depends on the individual in question, I think. Our desire to feel good about ourselves leads us to do all sorts of things. Some men find that need fulfilled in having sex with beautiful women, others might find it in creating works of art, being highly skilled in a particular area, or having the respect of their peers. Some choose to try some combination of these. The root of our drive to do things seems to be a general need for empowerment rather than solely a means of getting laid.
Cabra West
17-06-2006, 11:41
I wonder if sex was a positive or negative motivator in history?

I mean, I could imagine Mrs Darwin to have been a nagging hag who drove her husband to travels around the globe so that he could actually escape having sex with her. And did anybady ever wonder why Newton slept under an apple tree rather than in his own bed?
Dryks Legacy
17-06-2006, 11:43
Hey I'm not just making this up to make meself feel better (though it does ). Studies have shown that many stupid exaggerated behaviors of young men have been linked with impressing potential sex partners. Some of these are truely "Darwin Award" worthy.

What you say probably holds true for most people. Although a lot of young men do stupid things to impress anyone who will take notice. It is interesting though that "stupid" behaviours are supposed to be impressing people, last time I checked stupidity will get you noticed, just not in the way you hoped (unless you're trying to look like a fool.)
Xislakilinia
17-06-2006, 11:44
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488084
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487590
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488081
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487296
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486354
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486005
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=485194
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=485165
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481679
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483635
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=482842
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481861
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481699

See for yourself - that's just a small selection of what a thread start search yields for this poster. It's a poll spammer.

Four polls on the front page at the same time. Give it a bloody rest already.

*Gasps* Is it a crime? :eek:

*Looks around for a mod.*

Ok I'll stop. I hope the topics are interesting though. :(
I V Stalin
17-06-2006, 11:44
I wonder if sex was a positive or negative motivator in history?

I mean, I could imagine Mrs Darwin to have been a nagging hag who drove her husband to travels around the globe so that he could actually escape having sex with her. And did anybady ever wonder why Newton slept under an apple tree rather than in his own bed?
Wasn't Newton a virgin?
Kanabia
17-06-2006, 11:47
Yes.

Men deny it, but sex is a natural driving force.

I just wish sex would motivate me to work harder at uni :p

So, everything I do and have ever done has been aimed primarily at getting me laid?

Bollocks, I say.

(Everyone knows a politics degree will get you laid just like that... :p)
BogMarsh
17-06-2006, 11:48
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488084
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487590
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488081
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487296
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486354
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486005
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=485194
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=485165
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481679
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483635
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=482842
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481861
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481699

See for yourself - that's just a small selection of what a thread start search yields for this poster. It's a poll spammer.

Four polls on the front page at the same time. Give it a bloody rest already.


I <3 polls.
*gives Fass a fluffle* :fluffle:

Anyway, I think that bio-parenting tends to make people a lot saner.
HotRodia
17-06-2006, 11:52
Wasn't Newton a virgin?

Yeah. He said staying a virgin was his greatest accomplishment, as I recall.
Xislakilinia
17-06-2006, 11:53
Yes.

Men deny it, but sex is a natural driving force.

I just wish sex would motivate me to work harder at uni :p

But you already work so hard! Be nice to yourself, sweetie. For me. :fluffle:
Xislakilinia
17-06-2006, 11:56
I wonder if sex was a positive or negative motivator in history?

I mean, I could imagine Mrs Darwin to have been a nagging hag who drove her husband to travels around the globe so that he could actually escape having sex with her. And did anybady ever wonder why Newton slept under an apple tree rather than in his own bed?

Yes I know what you mean, though I was thinking mainly positive motivation. Just imagine Xisla boinking a boney woman! :eek: Quiet scary yes.

Oh btw :fluffle:
Dryks Legacy
17-06-2006, 11:59
Yeah. He said staying a virgin was his greatest accomplishment, as I recall.

A greater accomplishment that writing Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica? Wow, what a strange guy.
The Beautiful Darkness
17-06-2006, 12:01
But you already work so hard! Be nice to yourself, sweetie. For me. :fluffle:

Hehe, for you, eh? :p

:fluffle:
JuNii
17-06-2006, 12:02
Is Sex The Main Motivation for Human Male Achievement?
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...


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why not... it's as good a reason as most.

after all, when they say they're working for Peace... how do we know it's not Piece?
Infinite Revolution
17-06-2006, 12:15
maybe i should start thinking more about sex. i have motivation problems. poerhaps a low libido is related to this.
Xislakilinia
17-06-2006, 12:22
A greater accomplishment that writing Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica? Wow, what a strange guy.

I always thought strange people don't get laid. Now I know that some actually don't want to? :confused:
Dryks Legacy
17-06-2006, 12:26
I always thought strange people don't get laid. Now I know that some actually don't want to? :confused:

It's strange isn't it, but Newton was an alchemist so his mental state is questionable:p
Xislakilinia
17-06-2006, 12:29
It's strange isn't it, but Newton was an alchemist so his mental state is questionable:p

So in order to be a good scientist I must have a suspect mental state and dislike a hearty boink?

That makes me so sad. :(
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-06-2006, 12:36
Dunno. Wouldn't hope so, would you? That'd be a tad sad.
Then again, doing things only for money and power would be even sadder, so eh.

I wonder if sex was a positive or negative motivator in history?

I mean, I could imagine Mrs Darwin to have been a nagging hag who drove her husband to travels around the globe so that he could actually escape having sex with her. And did anybady ever wonder why Newton slept under an apple tree rather than in his own bed?
Hmmm, what a very interesting hypotheses. I'm sure one could find a many more examples. Someone else do it, my brain is not switched on yet.

(Everyone knows a politics degree will get you laid just like that... ) :p
Aww, isn't he cute? Sure, sure, sweetie, you go right ahead and get some. *pats* :p
JuNii
17-06-2006, 12:40
(Everyone knows a politics degree will get you laid just like that... :p)no, no, no, no, no...

you got that wrong.... Politics allows you to SCREW everyone... not get you laid... :D
BogMarsh
17-06-2006, 12:40
no, no, no, no, no...

you got that wrong.... Politics allows you to SCREW everyone... not get you laid... :D

I'm thinking you consider getting laid passive?
:p
Kedalfax
17-06-2006, 12:45
Sex :fluffle: is certainly a big motivator in a large number of guys. But sex :fluffle: is also completely irrelivant to another group of guys. For the vast majority of guys, sex :fluffle: is among the top motivators. Why do you think Viagra has competitors now? A bunch of old people are trying to have sex :fluffle: and can't get it up! Just think of your grandparents, and you won't be able to sleep for a week!
Xislakilinia
17-06-2006, 12:45
no, no, no, no, no...

you got that wrong.... Politics allows you to SCREW everyone... not get you laid... :D

Does studying politics allow you to enter politics? I thought politicians were mainly lawyers and administrators... :confused:
Kanabia
17-06-2006, 13:24
Aww, isn't he cute? Sure, sure, sweetie, you go right ahead and get some. *pats*

Rrrrr.

:p

Does studying politics allow you to enter politics? I thought politicians were mainly lawyers and administrators... :confused:

Nah, it won't. More likely i'll end up in the bureaucracy pushing pencils or something.

Which is totally a turn on, i'm sure! :p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-06-2006, 13:27
Rrrrr.
Aww, and what an adorable little "sexy roar". :p *snickers*
Kanabia
17-06-2006, 13:30
Aww, and what an adorable little "sexy roar". :p *snickers*
*growl*
Don't make me get all speech impedimenty on your little bum, Wytt. (heh, in-joke... :p)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-06-2006, 14:04
*growl*
Don't make me get all speech impedimenty on your little bum, Wytt. (heh, in-joke... :p)
Oh, but you know how much that delightful lisp of yours always gets me hot and bothered. And don't get me started on the random spitting - now that's just hawt.
Cannot think of a name
17-06-2006, 14:09
Oh, but you know how much that delightful lisp of yours always gets me hot and bothered. And don't get me started on the random spitting - now that's just hawt.
Ah great...now I'm going to have the notion of the Daffy Duck Phone Sex Line in my head for a while...

"Suff-pbbblt-ering Sucatash-sssffff! Look at the sizshe of thsat thshing!"

I hope you two are pleased with yourselves...
Ashmoria
17-06-2006, 14:09
i dont think that just getting laid can be the prime motivator for such high acheivement.

first of all its not that hard to get laid. look at how many 17 year olds get it on a regular basis. now i know youre thinking that it wasnt that way in the past, but thats just lies your parents tell you to make you feel like a pervert.

second of all, most of those guys are married. ya ya i know that by the time youve been married THAT long you might not be all that interested in your wife anymore but what is easier, getting it from the wife (or from the wife next door) or creating world peace?
Pure Metal
17-06-2006, 14:10
Yes. Sex underlies EVERYTHING.

glitziness says its not just for guys - she's living proof, apparently ;) :D





*nods*
Galloism
17-06-2006, 14:33
Ah great...now I'm going to have the notion of the Daffy Duck Phone Sex Line in my head for a while...

"Suff-pbbblt-ering Sucatash-sssffff! Look at the sizshe of thsat thshing!"

I hope you two are pleased with yourselves...

That's it, thread's over. You won.
Kanabia
17-06-2006, 14:59
Oh, but you know how much that delightful lisp of yours always gets me hot and bothered. And don't get me started on the random spitting - now that's just hawt.

Random spitting?


first of all its not that hard to get laid. look at how many 17 year olds get it on a regular basis. now i know youre thinking that it wasnt that way in the past, but thats just lies your parents tell you to make you feel like a pervert.


Must've missed that boat. :p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-06-2006, 16:09
Ah great...now I'm going to have the notion of the Daffy Duck Phone Sex Line in my head for a while...

"Suff-pbbblt-ering Sucatash-sssffff! Look at the sizshe of thsat thshing!"

I hope you two are pleased with yourselves...

Very. :p

Blame Kanabia. He didn't even deny the lisp.
23Eris
17-06-2006, 16:22
I must all be about sex. A guy came up to me at the bar a while back and said (first thing out of his mouth) "It's all about the p***y"

That was pretty messed up, and really kinda creepy.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
17-06-2006, 16:42
I don't give a damn about it. I'm fine with fantasizing, and once in a while watching some hentai. That way, I can imagine (and through hentai, see) women more than a tenfold more attractive than real-life ones, which are largely unattractive, and if not, typically so slimy that I wouldn't voluntarily touch them with a ten-meter pole. Chances are, it simply wouldn't be worth the effort, and who knows what cost it could come at? Not too good an idea to get deeply involved with anyone unless absolutely neccessary... And no matter how small it could get, I definitely don't want the risk of ending up with no choice but having to pay for a child for 18 years; that would be about the largest disaster that could possibly happen; second to a deadly STD, but far more likely. It would be nonsensical to trust anyone at all when such risks are involved unless your life depended on it, or you otherwise had a significant special reason to do so.

It would truly take a perfect opportunity for me to seriously concider it.
Ashmoria
17-06-2006, 16:53
I don't give a damn about it. I'm fine with fantasizing, and once in a while watching some hentai. That way, I can imagine (and through hentai, see) women more than a tenfold more attractive than real-life ones, which are largely unattractive, and if not, typically so slimy that I wouldn't voluntarily touch them with a ten-meter pole. Chances are, it simply wouldn't be worth the effort, and who knows what cost it could come at? Not too good an idea to get deeply involved with anyone unless absolutely neccessary... And no matter how small it could get, I definitely don't want the risk of ending up with no choice but having to pay for a child for 18 years; that would be about the largest disaster that could possibly happen; second to a deadly STD, but far more likely. It would be nonsensical to trust anyone at all when such risks are involved unless your life depended on it, or you otherwise had a significant special reason to do so.

It would truly take a perfect opportunity for me to seriously concider it.

it is ever-so-slightly pathetic to prefer the anatomically strange cartoon women of hentai to a real life woman no matter how small her eyes are.
Barbaric Tribes
17-06-2006, 17:29
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
sex rules.
Barbaric Tribes
17-06-2006, 17:30
I don't give a damn about it. I'm fine with fantasizing, and once in a while watching some hentai. That way, I can imagine (and through hentai, see) women more than a tenfold more attractive than real-life ones, which are largely unattractive, and if not, typically so slimy that I wouldn't voluntarily touch them with a ten-meter pole. Chances are, it simply wouldn't be worth the effort, and who knows what cost it could come at? Not too good an idea to get deeply involved with anyone unless absolutely neccessary... And no matter how small it could get, I definitely don't want the risk of ending up with no choice but having to pay for a child for 18 years; that would be about the largest disaster that could possibly happen; second to a deadly STD, but far more likely. It would be nonsensical to trust anyone at all when such risks are involved unless your life depended on it, or you otherwise had a significant special reason to do so.

It would truly take a perfect opportunity for me to seriously concider it.



thats really sad dude, I mean, really sad..... something must have happened to you when you were a child.
Demented Hamsters
17-06-2006, 19:16
Is Sex The Main Motivation for Human Male Achievement?
No. There's also wanting to look cool in front of your buddies.
Big motivation right there!
Kanabia
17-06-2006, 19:39
Blame Kanabia. He didn't even deny the lisp.

Sigh. There's no sense arguing with you anymore about what I sound like, that's all. :p
B0zzy
17-06-2006, 19:56
So long as women treat sex human male achievement as the main motivation for sex it will continue to be that way....
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-06-2006, 20:04
Sigh. There's no sense arguing with you anymore about what I sound like, that's all. :p
Oh please, I took care to never even mention the lisp. :p

So long as women treat sex human male achievement as the main motivation for sex it will continue to be that way.... o.O Who says we do?
Kanabia
17-06-2006, 20:05
Oh please, I took care to never even mention the lisp. :p

I actually have a lisp?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-06-2006, 20:18
I actually have a lisp?
Oh my God, couldn't you at least have added a smiley? Now I don't know whether to laugh or feel bad :S. Of course you don't have a lisp, I was just messing with you.

Man, I really messed you up with that comment way back when, huh? http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/sad033.gif

Also, a lisp isn't really that bad anyways. A guy who graduated high school with me had a lisp and that was kinda cute actually.
Kanabia
17-06-2006, 20:20
Oh my God, couldn't you at least have added a smiley? Now I don't know whether to laugh or feel bad :S. Of course you don't have a lisp, I was just messing with you.

Man, I really messed you up with that comment way back when, huh? http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/sad033.gif

Also, a lisp isn't really that bad anyways. A guy who graduated high school with me had a lisp and that was kinda cute actually.

Oh, good then.

Don't mind me, I just get paranoid.

>.>

<.<

:fluffle:

:p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-06-2006, 20:23
Oh, good then.

Don't mind me, I just get paranoid.

>.>

<.<

:fluffle:

:p
Whew. :fluffle: :p
B0zzy
18-06-2006, 00:01
Oh please, I took care to never even mention the lisp. :p

o.O Who says we do?

http://evolution.massey.ac.nz/lecture5/lect500.htm

Men, for whom the reproductive stakes are higher, are likely to be more competitive with each other, and therefore... men are more likely to end up wielding power, controlling wealth and seeking fame. Consequently, women are more likely to have been rewarded for seeking power, wealth or fame in a husband than men are in a wife. Women who did so therefore probably left more descendants among modern women. So it follows from evolutionary thinking that women are more likely to value potential mates who are rich and powerful. Another way to look at it is to think of what a woman can most profitably seek in a husband that will increase the number and health of her children. The answer is not more sperm, but more money, or more cattle, or more tribal allies, or whatever resource counts (Ridley, 1994: 258-9).


http://www.hotwomensuccessfulmen.com/
Our goal is to bring together men and women who fit this description. Women have the advantage in looks. Men have the advantage in money. It's the real world reflected online, but it's even better! You just choose from the top ranks, which increases your chances of finding Mr. or Mrs. Right in the least amount of time. After all, your time is the most precious thing of all!
JuNii
18-06-2006, 00:12
Oh my God, couldn't you at least have added a smiley? Now I don't know whether to laugh or feel bad :S. Of course you don't have a lisp, I was just messing with you.

Man, I really messed you up with that comment way back when, huh? http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/sad033.gif

Also, a lisp isn't really that bad anyways. A guy who graduated high school with me had a lisp and that was kinda cute actually.my question is who the hell decided to put an 's' in Lisp? :mad:
People without names
18-06-2006, 00:13
i would say some yes and some no. it is hard to catagorize people in saying this group likes sex alot more then the other. there are many of women who are alot more driven to have sex then many of men.

i beleive it has alot to do with your upbringing and your sociol experience.
PsychoticDan
18-06-2006, 00:31
Yes. sex, money and power...

Money and power, of course, because it's good at getting us sex.
PsychoticDan
18-06-2006, 00:35
*snip*
http://www.hotwomensuccessfulmen.com/
Our goal is to bring together men and women who fit this description. Women have the advantage in looks. Men have the advantage in money. It's the real world reflected online, but it's even better! You just choose from the top ranks, which increases your chances of finding Mr. or Mrs. Right in the least amount of time. After all, your time is the most precious thing of all!
I'm joining. :)
Xislakilinia
18-06-2006, 04:55
http://evolution.massey.ac.nz/lecture5/lect500.htm

Men, for whom the reproductive stakes are higher, are likely to be more competitive with each other, and therefore... men are more likely to end up wielding power, controlling wealth and seeking fame. Consequently, women are more likely to have been rewarded for seeking power, wealth or fame in a husband than men are in a wife. Women who did so therefore probably left more descendants among modern women. So it follows from evolutionary thinking that women are more likely to value potential mates who are rich and powerful. Another way to look at it is to think of what a woman can most profitably seek in a husband that will increase the number and health of her children. The answer is not more sperm, but more money, or more cattle, or more tribal allies, or whatever resource counts (Ridley, 1994: 258-9).


http://www.hotwomensuccessfulmen.com/
Our goal is to bring together men and women who fit this description. Women have the advantage in looks. Men have the advantage in money. It's the real world reflected online, but it's even better! You just choose from the top ranks, which increases your chances of finding Mr. or Mrs. Right in the least amount of time. After all, your time is the most precious thing of all!

Wow, yes, this is exactly what I'm saying! Thanks dude. :)

*bows*
Dryks Legacy
18-06-2006, 05:24
Yes. sex, money and power...

Money and power, of course, because it's good at getting us sex.

I want money and power because it pushes back the boundary between what I can and can't do. Although it more or less dooms me, I'd rather get "company" on my on merits.
B0zzy
18-06-2006, 14:24
I want money and power because it pushes back the boundary between what I can and can't do. Although it more or less dooms me, I'd rather get "company" on my on merits.


Inversly, I want money and power because it then limits the number of people I have to put up with. (Thereby reducing the total number of assholes in my life)
Jello Biafra
18-06-2006, 14:34
I would say that sex is the primary motivation for many human males, but not all human males.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 14:37
my question is who the hell decided to put an 's' in Lisp? :mad:
Someone with a sense of humour. :p


http://evolution.massey.ac.nz/lecture5/lect500.htm

Men, for whom the reproductive stakes are higher, are likely to be more competitive with each other, and therefore... men are more likely to end up wielding power, controlling wealth and seeking fame. Consequently, women are more likely to have been rewarded for seeking power, wealth or fame in a husband than men are in a wife. Women who did so therefore probably left more descendants among modern women. So it follows from evolutionary thinking that women are more likely to value potential mates who are rich and powerful. Another way to look at it is to think of what a woman can most profitably seek in a husband that will increase the number and health of her children. The answer is not more sperm, but more money, or more cattle, or more tribal allies, or whatever resource counts (Ridley, 1994: 258-9).
I'm not going to put this whole evolutionary/genetic approach into question (someone probably will) - but, seriously? So every woman's definition of what constitutes desirability is "money and power"? o.O
Um, no. Just no.
Also makes me laugh - how on earth would a teenage male ever get sex then? :p


And this http://www.hotwomensuccessfulmen.com/
Our goal is to bring together men and women who fit this description. Women have the advantage in looks. Men have the advantage in money. It's the real world reflected online, but it's even better! You just choose from the top ranks, which increases your chances of finding Mr. or Mrs. Right in the least amount of time. After all, your time is the most precious thing of all! is so ludicrous and chauvinist and offensive and puke-worthy that I sincerely hope you're just kidding by submitting it as "evidence".
Francis Street
18-06-2006, 14:38
Yes.

Men deny it, but sex is a natural driving force.

Not as much as women deny it. ;)
Potarius
18-06-2006, 14:39
Art, friends, and achievement are what drive me (sex would be a secondary thing, but of course, it's still a driving force). And I don't much care for anybody trying to tell me otherwise.
B0zzy
18-06-2006, 21:27
I'm not going to put this whole evolutionary/genetic approach into question (someone probably will) - but, seriously? So every woman's definition of what constitutes desirability is "money and power"? o.O
Um, no. Just no.
Also makes me laugh - how on earth would a teenage male ever get sex then? :p
You obviously didn't read the link because it answers these questions. Essentially it is a genetic and somewhat subconscious predisposition. Teenage males get sex the same way as any other males do - exhibiting qualities which make them appealing as a mate. (strength, success, isometric features, etc.)


And this is so ludicrous and chauvinist and offensive and puke-worthy that I sincerely hope you're just kidding by submitting it as "evidence".
If there were no truth to it whatsoever it would not be offensive to anyone.
Bottle
18-06-2006, 21:32
I mean guys say they work like crazy for ideals like world peace or to cure diseases or whatever.

So does that make me the only man who is slogging his ass off so that he can have a decent boink with a meaty babe someday? Come on!

Hey I'm not just making this up to make meself feel better (though it does :D ). Studies have shown that many stupid exaggerated behaviors of young men have been linked with impressing potential sex partners. Some of these are truely "Darwin Award" worthy.

Besides, angst-ridden arty and sciency outbursts seem to die down after the protagonists settles down to a more fulfilling sexual environment. Like George Lucas after having kids. :rolleyes:

Am I right?

No. Sex is no more, or less, a motivation for men than it is for women. Any male who would try to use this kind of thing as an excuse for his own stupidity deserves to die a virgin.
Bottle
18-06-2006, 21:33
http://evolution.massey.ac.nz/lecture5/lect500.htm

[I]Men, for whom the reproductive stakes are higher,
The problem is that the reproductive stakes are exponentially higher for women than they are for men, and therefore the entire argument collapses.
Bottle
18-06-2006, 21:40
If there were no truth to it whatsoever it would not be offensive to anyone.
So if I say, "All black people are stupider than white people," then nobody would be offended unless my statement were true?

Sorry, but lies offend me, particularly when used as an excuse for cruel, inappropriate, or lazy behavior. If you want to be a selfish, immature, inconsiderate jackass, then feel free...but own your choice. Don't bullshit around about how you can't help it because you've got a penis. Don't whimper about how boys will be boys, and girls are just biologically designed to take your shit and like it. Be a creep if you must, but please don't embarass yourself and your gender by being such a coward.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 21:40
You obviously didn't read the link because it answers these questions. Essentially it is a genetic and somewhat subconscious predisposition. Teenage males get sex the same way as any other males do - exhibiting qualities which make them appealing as a mate. (strength, success, isometric features, etc.)
I didn't even *click* on the link, I simply took it as you telling me the source for your lengthy quote, which I assumed (falsely, it seems) contained everything you wanted to say. And the quote said that women want men who are "rich and powerful", which is what you said in your first post:So long as women treat sex human male achievement as the main motivation for sex it will continue to be that way....While that surely applies to some women, it certainly doesn't to others.


If there were no truth to it whatsoever it would not be offensive to anyone. Sorry, but that really does not make an iota of sense. So if I called you *insert the worst thing you can imagine which we would all know would not be true*, that wouldn't be offensive? I don't think so.

And while I would find that site you linked to just as much of a turn-off if I stumbled across it on the internet, what made it so "offensive" is that you actually used it to prove the point that that's "how women (and men, Im might add) are".
Cannot think of a name
18-06-2006, 22:20
There is obviously an evolutionary component to who we want to bone, but to reduce all of our evolutionary components and inborn instincts to only boning is to look at the subject with too narrow a tube.

Successfully finding a suitable mate is an important step in making sure your genes survive, but means jack fucking shit if you don't live through the winter. Abstract thought allowed for survivability, which had the added effect of more bonin', but it had a hell of a lot more to do with actually surviving. You weren't storing or sharing food because you could get you some (though it'd be nice) but because you needed to eat and some fools to watch yo' back.

So yeah, getting to touch someone's 'goodies' is a motivator but ignores the other factors that contributed to our species success.

On a more ancedotal level, there are things that I do that are traditionally attributed to trying to get the women, specificly cars. But when I had a sports car, honestly, chicks where a drag. Never let me drive it fast, bitched about it being cold and uncomfortable and that they could feel every bump in the road, etc. When a chick was properly into the car I didn't start thinkin', "Roll out the welcome mat, chick's pants" rather I would excitedly get into the same kind of conversation I would with any other enthusiast, perhaps relieved that she wouldn't at any point refer to the car as cute.

Thing is, that car was for me. I loved to drive it, it was a blast. People in the passenger seat where added weight that was dragging the whole thing down. I didn't drive slow enough for chicks to see me much less want me. I didn't drive to be seen (partly because the last time the car was registered was 1974...), I drove for the pure pleasure of that magnificent little yellow piece of shit (really, it was-falling apart at the seams-that's how I could afford it...well, I couldn't really, but that's not the point)

Even my current ride. I joke around about what the guy who sold it told me (Chicks will do you just because you have this) I have never suffered that delusion. It's just a fun thing to cruise in, 180 degrees from the sports car (which was going to rob me of my liscence) While there are some chicks who like that van as a quirk, I'd be a lot more successful with the ladies if I had a car that didn't poke them in the ass with bare springs everytime I pick them up unless they sit on a newspaper or something. But I don't drive Veronica for them, I drive her for me.

I don't write plays thinking, "Hello, ladies." Especially since the dudes in the plays are often me poking fun at my inadiquicies...besides, the chicks there bone the director because he does the casting...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 22:32
There is obviously an evolutionary component to who we want to bone, but to reduce all of our evolutionary components and inborn instincts to only boning is to look at the subject with too narrow a tube.

Successfully finding a suitable mate is an important step in making sure your genes survive, but means jack fucking shit if you don't live through the winter. Abstract thought allowed for survivability, which had the added effect of more bonin', but it had a hell of a lot more to do with actually surviving. You weren't storing or sharing food because you could get you some (though it'd be nice) but because you needed to eat and some fools to watch yo' back.

So yeah, getting to touch someone's 'goodies' is a motivator but ignores the other factors that contributed to our species success.

On a more ancedotal level, there are things that I do that are traditionally attributed to trying to get the women, specificly cars. But when I had a sports car, honestly, chicks where a drag. Never let me drive it fast, bitched about it being cold and uncomfortable and that they could feel every bump in the road, etc. When a chick was properly into the car I didn't start thinkin', "Roll out the welcome mat, chick's pants" rather I would excitedly get into the same kind of conversation I would with any other enthusiast, perhaps relieved that she wouldn't at any point refer to the car as cute.

Thing is, that car was for me. I loved to drive it, it was a blast. People in the passenger seat where added weight that was dragging the whole thing down. I didn't drive slow enough for chicks to see me much less want me. I didn't drive to be seen (partly because the last time the car was registered was 1974...), I drove for the pure pleasure of that magnificent little yellow piece of shit (really, it was-falling apart at the seams-that's how I could afford it...well, I couldn't really, but that's not the point)

Even my current ride. I joke around about what the guy who sold it told me (Chicks will do you just because you have this) I have never suffered that delusion. It's just a fun thing to cruise in, 180 degrees from the sports car (which was going to rob me of my liscence) While there are some chicks who like that van as a quirk, I'd be a lot more successful with the ladies if I had a car that didn't poke them in the ass with bare springs everytime I pick them up unless they sit on a newspaper or something. But I don't drive Veronica for them, I drive her for me.

I don't write plays thinking, "Hello, ladies." Especially since the dudes in the plays are often me poking fun at my inadiquicies...besides, the chicks there bone the director because he does the casting...
That was all absolutely correct and entertaining. Except for one thing.

I would totally do you just because you have the van.

<.< >.>

:p
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 22:36
That was all absolutely correct and entertaining. Except for one thing.

I would totally do you just because you have the van.

<.< >.>

:p
That, Cannot think of a name, should go into your signature!
Cannot think of a name
18-06-2006, 22:39
That was all absolutely correct and entertaining. Except for one thing.

I would totally do you just because you have the van.

<.< >.>

:p
Oh sure, you say that now-all the way over there in Germany...but when she tears a big hole in the ass of your pants as you get out (although she only does that to me-I think she thinks I should only have one pair of pants at a time...), or think I'm opening the door for you only to have me climb in and shuffle over to the drivers side because that door doesn't work, or the bed bench falls forward...or we're interupted because someone wants to tell me I can take her to Reggae on the River...
Cannot think of a name
18-06-2006, 22:41
That, Cannot think of a name, should go into your signature!
I'm not sure I want a constant reminder that my ratty old beloved van has more sex appeal than I do...
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 22:49
I'm not sure I want a constant reminder that my ratty old beloved van has more sex appeal than I do...
See it this way: At least you do have a van... I only have a bike. :D
Cannot think of a name
18-06-2006, 22:53
See it this way: At least you do have a van... I only have a bike. :D
You should come to this town, that bike and being German would get you tons of hippie and preppie student tail. VW Bus' are a dime a dozen 'round here but the European biker, he understands...you know...not like these California boys who only care about surfing and getting high.

I'm tellin' ya man. That bike and a nicely affected accent would get you some 'round here.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 22:54
I'm not sure I want a constant reminder that my ratty old beloved van has more sex appeal than I do...
Aw, poor Ctoan. :p I didn't mean to imply that I would do you *only* because you have the van, I just took the phrasing you used.

Then again, this was rather convincing: Oh sure, you say that now-all the way over there in Germany...but when she tears a big hole in the ass of your pants as you get out (although she only does that to me-I think she thinks I should only have one pair of pants at a time...), or think I'm opening the door for you only to have me climb in and shuffle over to the drivers side because that door doesn't work, or the bed bench falls forward...or we're interupted because someone wants to tell me I can take her to Reggae on the River... So yeah, maybe not. :p
Cannot think of a name
18-06-2006, 23:05
Aw, poor Ctoan. :p I didn't mean to imply that I would do you *only* because you have the van, I just took the phrasing you used.

Then again, this was rather convincing: So yeah, maybe not. :p
I have an amazing ability to talk people out of givin' me some.

...


Wait, that's not a good thing...
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 23:07
You should come to this town, that bike and being German would get you tons of hippie and preppie student tail. VW Bus' are a dime a dozen 'round here but the European biker, he understands...you know...not like these California boys who only care about surfing and getting high.

I'm tellin' ya man. That bike and a nicely affected accent would get you some 'round here.
Uhm, just to make sure what you're saying: What exactly do you mean by "tail"? If that means "booty" I'm all down with that ;) And what is a "preppie" student?
Trouble is, I'd have to work hard on reinstalling zat German akzent again. Right now my English does have a certain Southern drawl (from my year in NC).

Oh, how I wish I could afford that plane ticket (and especially the time off) and make that trip. Can't say I wouldn't be smoking da good stuff over there, but hey - wouldn't the hippie ladies like that? (Yes, I can be very knowing and understanding indeed when I the occasion arises and needs it :p)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-06-2006, 23:11
I have an amazing ability to talk people out of givin' me some.

...


Wait, that's not a good thing...
My thoughts exactly.
Cannot think of a name
18-06-2006, 23:19
Uhm, just to make sure what you're saying: What exactly do you mean by "tail"? If that means "booty" I'm all down with that ;) And what is a "preppie" student?
Trouble is, I'd have to work hard on reinstalling zat German akzent again. Right now my English does have a certain Southern drawl (from my year in NC).

Oh, how I wish I could afford that plane ticket (and especially the time off) and make that trip. Can't say I wouldn't be smoking da good stuff over there, but hey - wouldn't the hippie ladies like that? (Yes, I can be very knowing and understanding indeed when I the occasion arises and needs it :p)
South will work too.

Booty, tail, 'some.' It's all good. Well...

Oh you'd have to smoke. It's presumed here. Even the preppie chicks.

Who are daddie's girls, rich chicks, 'trendies,' what have you who are away from their parents for the first time and go through phases, such as (not a complete list or in order)-
"I'm gonna stay up as late as I want and eat ice cream whenever I want"
"People are crazy and I don't know why they're so crazy but I'm going to tell them they're crazy"
"He's such a free spirit."
"I'm sooo drunk"
"This is one of the 18 causes I believe in this week."
etc.

It's an outdated stereotype and very much a caracature. But so are hippie chicks, so...

You'd still be knee deep in college chicks and locals.
Xandabia
18-06-2006, 23:21
It's not the main one its the only one - ask darwin.
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 23:29
South will work too.
Yay!
Booty, tail, 'some.' It's all good. Well...
Oh, good.
Oh you'd have to smoke. It's presumed here. Even the preppie chicks.
Well, it's not like I don't already here. Wha?
Who are daddie's girls, rich chicks, 'trendies,' what have you who are away from their parents for the first time and go through phases, such as (not a complete list or in order)-
"I'm gonna stay up as late as I want and eat ice cream whenever I want"
"People are crazy and I don't know why they're so crazy but I'm going to tell them they're crazy"
"He's such a free spirit."
"I'm sooo drunk"
"This is one of the 18 causes I believe in this week."
etc.
It's an outdated stereotype and very much a caracature. But so are hippie chicks, so...
*drools big time* Damn, I need a vacation! :D
You'd still be knee deep in college chicks and locals.
You wouldn't believe me if I told you how long... Argh!
I've been to California beginning of 2004 (Berkeley, visiting my sister) and I really loved it. Oh, good times!
Cannot think of a name
18-06-2006, 23:33
Yay!

Oh, good.

Well, it's not like I don't already here. Wha?

*drools big time* Damn, I need a vacation! :D

You wouldn't believe me if I told you how long... Argh!
I can almost asure you I have you beat. As we've just learned earlier in the thread, I need to stop talking sooner.
I've been to California beginning of 2004 (Berkeley, visiting my sister) and I really loved it. Oh, good times!
Santa Cruz is remarkably close to Berkeley, and really a lot like Berkeley but with far better beaches.
German Nightmare
18-06-2006, 23:44
I can almost asure you I have you beat. As we've just learned earlier in the thread, I need to stop talking sooner.

Santa Cruz is remarkably close to Berkeley, and really a lot like Berkeley but with far better beaches.
Well, it's definitely been way too long for my liking!

I didn't even think Berkeley has beaches?!? At least I haven't been to one. *shrugs*
Jenrak
19-06-2006, 00:02
Sex is the ultimate mastermind of us all. It drives us all to do what we do.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
19-06-2006, 19:03
it is ever-so-slightly pathetic to prefer the anatomically strange cartoon women of hentai to a real life woman no matter how small her eyes are.You are just jealous!:D

I have no idea exactly what would make it more pathetic than being attracted to real-life women. I find it significantly less so being attracted to a highly artistic image that truly is beautiful (and explicitly made to be so), and in certain senses near-perfected, (this doesn't go for everything, of cource. only what is well-drawn in a one of many fitting styles) than the image (be it direct or otherwise) of an imperfect lump of gradually decaying cells that happens to form a (sometimes) somewhat attractive shape.
Francis Street
19-06-2006, 19:13
Uhm, just to make sure what you're saying: What exactly do you mean by "tail"? If that means "booty" I'm all down with that ;)
"Tail" is the beastiality equivalent of "booty".