NationStates Jolt Archive

Do you support Globalization? Do you like it but think it has alot of flaws that need to be fixed? I for hate it, I believe it destroys the history and culture of smaller nations and makes them pawns of ubernations and I also think it puts 99% of the world in the hands of 2% of the population. Which is another resaon I hate the asian currency unit as it will just lead to a asian nation of the koreas, china and Japan. I don't want a one nation world and all people to lose the right to govern themselves. Thoughts?



Capitialism also screws over the workers, destroys the worlds resources and put 99% of the worlds money in the hands of 2% of its population. Capitialism also rapes small nations for the benefit of the big. Capitialism also screws over the consumer by having greedy companies control the planet and raising costs...Oil anyone?

Globalization also destroys small nation culture and has lead to 90% of the planet being controled by 1% of the population. The fear tactic we would be stuck in the 1980's is a lie. I won't destroy Japan's or any other nations people or culture for profit.

If you haden't noticed I am a japanese nationalist and a emerging hardline socialist.


Something I wrote somewhere else. I don't mind if you disagree, just keep it clean.

Globalization is inevitable. Deal with it.

Globalization is inevitable. Deal with it.


So is racism......get the picture?

It's a great thing, in the way you describe it (ie political integration). Who wouldn't want people to be closer and friends with each other?

On an economic scale, it's a good thing with problems.

Globalization is a great thing; it permits greater exploitation of comparative advantage, lowers international tensions, brings about the capability to deal with problems global in scale, and lets ideas and technology pass across the planet much more swiftly.

Neoliberalism is another story entirely.

It's a great thing, in the way you describe it (ie political integration). Who wouldn't want people to be closer and friends with each other?

On an economic scale, it's a good thing with problems.


Why do we need one huge country to get that? We can be friends without having all nations merge into one huge country.

Why do we need one huge country to get that? We can be friends without having all nations merge into one huge country.
Globalisation doesn't require 'one huge country'. If you want to talk about World Government, though; why not? There is no reason why that would require the surpression of individual cultures.

I believe in Cultural Darwinism, if a cultural meme, or indeed, even an entire culture cannot protect itself without hiding behind the borders of a nationstate then it does not deserve to continue existing. As it is people who define their own culture, and if they chose to reject tradition, no-one has any right to impose it on them.

However, I do believe there are some economic problems with globalisation, such as at the moment it seems to only benefit the richest echelons, but I believe that as in all marketplaces this gradually redistribute itself (maybe with some governmental help...)

i'm conflicted

On one hand, multinationals go into some places and offer jobs to people who might not have another employment alternative... which is good.

On the other, if they treat those employees like crap... that ain't good.

So we're faced with this dilemma:

Is it better to have a bad job, or none at all?

So is racism......get the picture?
No?

Globalisation doesn't require 'one huge country'. If you want to talk about World Government, though; why not? There is no reason why that would require the surpression of individual cultures.



It seems thats the way we are going. First Europe and now Asia is going in that direction. Don't get me wrong, I am a Japanese nationalist but I also respect the diversity of the world and don't want all nations to be clones of each other. I respect all cultures of the world.

It seems thats the way we are going. First Europe and now Asia is going in that direction.

How exactly is the EU repressing individual cultures?

No?



the point is just because its gonna happen doesn't mean you shouldn't try to fight it.

Globalization is neither good or bad. It's just the result of progress in technology. Yes it can allow people to take advantage of others, but it also allows a lot of good. People can help starvation in Africa, the tsunamis victims in Southeast Asia, etc. to a much more significant level thanks to globalization.

How exactly is the EU repressing individual cultures?


It's that they are doing it themselves, its just that when smaller nations join larger ones they lose their indenity. The culture of the bigger nations tends to overpower the smaller one. This happens by alot of mean but mostly thru immigration and the export of the larger nations culture. Culture spreads over an entire country and when 2 nations join together who's culture is gonna dominate? The bigger one. So its not that the EU is doing it as a policy it just that it is bound to happen and can't really be stopped.

Culture is just a straight jacket the powerful ("culture makers") place on the less powerful. I can tolerate it - but I view it with distain.

It's that they are doing it themselves, its just that when smaller nations join larger ones they lose their indenity. The culture of the bigger nations tends to overpower the smaller one. This happens by alot of mean but mostly thru immigration and the export of the larger nations culture. Culture spreads over an entire country and when 2 nations join together who's culture is gonna dominate? The bigger one. So its not that the EU is doing it as a policy it just that it is bound to happen and can't really be stopped.

Since when are cultures based on states? Not all states are monocultural; most, in fact, are not.

Furthermore, any population that wants to preserve its culture can do it easily if it chooses to; no one is making them buy the products of a different culture, or watch movies made in different cultures, or listen to music of other cultures, or alter their beliefs or practices because of other cultures, etc.

And it doesnt help if the powerful are "the great great great grandfather of your chief" instead of "the dude making a tv show in california" - it is all just power struggles as usual.

Various cultures are not good. They cause division and tension in the world. Diversity is nice, peace is better.

the point is just because its gonna happen doesn't mean you shouldn't try to fight it.
But who says racism is inevitable?

But who says racism is inevitable?



It just happens. Racism has always been around and always will.

It just happens. Racism has always been around and always will.

But you can accomplish something by fighting it. I think the point Neo Undelia is driving at is that you can't accomplish anything by fighting globalization. Which is probably true, in the long run.

It just happens. Racism has always been around and always will.

Now, that's just accepting defeat. Racism doesn't need to "just happen". Education and integration can go a long way to eradicating it.

Various cultures are not good. They cause division and tension in the world. Diversity is nice, peace is better.

So whose culture would you force upon everyone?

But you can accomplish something by fighting it. I think the point Neo Undelia is driving at is that you can't accomplish anything by fighting globalization. Which is probably true, in the long run.

I agree, globalization is destiny.

So whose culture would you force upon everyone?

Who said anything about forcing down a culture? Globalization will cause one global culture to exist naturally that may or may not be mine and humanity will be better for it.

Who said anything about forcing down a culture? Globalization will cause one global culture to exist naturally that may or may not be mine and humanity will be better for it.

I don't think globalization will impose a global monoculture at all. Human beings aren't all the same; freedom to choose implies a degree of cultural diversity.

Who said anything about forcing down a culture? Globalization will cause one global culture to exist naturally that may or may not be mine and humanity will be better for it.


So you want to kill diversity and make the world one gigantic vanilla dome? The world has never had one culture and never should.

Now, that's just accepting defeat. Racism doesn't need to "just happen". Education and integration can go a long way to eradicating it.



I can the same thing about globalisation is destiny. their can be alternatives to it if we just take the time and effort to see Globalsations flaws and fight to fix them.

I don't think globalization will impose a global monoculture at all. Human beings aren't all the same; freedom to choose implies a degree of cultural diversity.

True the world will stay have plenty of subcultures even by the end of globalization and that's good, a little diversity is always nice. Subcultures don't really cause that much friction, but separate cultures will merge. Different cultural differences promotes friction, which is unhealthy, but does anyone really mind subcultural differences? No one that I know.

I can the same thing about globalisation is destiny. their can be alternatives to it if we just take the time and effort to see Globalsations flaws and fight to fix them.

What exactly are globalization's flaws? You've mentioned cultural homogeneity, but that would only happen if people chose it to happen, which is unlikely. Cultural diversity would be almost assured in a global society, with the additional advantage that people living in a place with a culture they didn't like would easily be capable of moving somewhere else.

So you want to kill diversity and make the world one gigantic vanilla dome? The world has never had one culture and never should.

Just because I would like to see one culture does not mean that I am racist. I am realist. This conflict in Iraq gains support by its fighters by playing off cultural differences. If we had one culture than that couldn't happen. Diversity is nice, peace is better.

Just because I would like to see one culture does not mean that I am racist. I am realist. This conflict in Iraq gains support by its fighters by playing off cultural differences. If we had one culture than that couldn't happen. Diversity is nice, peace is better.


That means you hate all cultures and wish to destroy them....That is not just racist but downright scary!


Iraq is more by religion and poverty than anything else. teach respect for all cultures not their death.

globalization, and its effects of cultural dispensation, are hardly new.

Thai, Indian, and Szechuan cuisine are all very spicy, and use hot peppers for this spice. Those peppers come originally from the Americas.

The number system used worldwide are from Arabia.

Pasta originated in China, and is now popular in many cuisines, such as Italian.

Plains Indian groups are often depicted on horseback, and horses are vital to their lifestyle. Horses, however, are old world animals.

Southern American cuisine (such as Georgia and Alabama) have alot of deep-fried foods, which originated in Africa.

Europe is a Christian region. Indonesia and North Africa are Muslim. Both started in the Middle East.

These changes are hardly new or bad. "Culture" is not, has never been, and never will be a static thing. It is constantly being influenced by new ideas from different places. Culture constantly evolves. Perhaps Japanese culture will begin to more closely resemble American culture. This isn't a bad thing, it just means that Japanese culture has changed. Oddly enough, Japanese culture is highly borrowed from Chinese culture. Go figure.

I can the same thing about globalisation is destiny. their can be alternatives to it if we just take the time and effort to see Globalsations flaws and fight to fix them.

No...globalisation will happen, but you still have the opportunity to fight against the bad things it brings with it.

Do you support Globalization? Do you like it but think it has alot of flaws that need to be fixed? I for hate it, I believe it destroys the history and culture of smaller nations and makes them pawns of ubernations and I also think it puts 99% of the world in the hands of 2% of the population. Which is another resaon I hate the asian currency unit as it will just lead to a asian nation of the koreas, china and Japan. I don't want a one nation world and all people to lose the right to govern themselves. Thoughts?




Something I wrote somewhere else. I don't mind if you disagree, just keep it clean.

if u have ever heard of conspiracy theory, then u might know why i hate globalization. If u don't know about it, look it up! Basically, conspiracy theory is what some christians and few jews believe in that says that the UN is evil and that they are trying to take over the world to bring the Antichrist. Once again, look it up! :):upyours:
(just so u know, i'm not mad, i just posted the upyours smilie because i'm bored.

globalization, and its effects of cultural dispensation, are hardly new.

Thai, Indian, and Szechuan cuisine are all very spicy, and use hot peppers for this spice. Those peppers come originally from the Americas.

The number system used worldwide are from Arabia.

Pasta originated in China, and is now popular in many cuisines, such as Italian.

Plains Indian groups are often depicted on horseback, and horses are vital to their lifestyle. Horses, however, are old world animals.

Southern American cuisine (such as Georgia and Alabama) have alot of deep-fried foods, which originated in Africa.

Europe is a Christian region. Indonesia and North Africa are Muslim. Both started in the Middle East.

These changes are hardly new or bad. "Culture" is not, has never been, and never will be a static thing. It is constantly being influenced by new ideas from different places. Culture constantly evolves. Perhaps Japanese culture will begin to more closely resemble American culture. This isn't a bad thing, it just means that Japanese culture has changed. Oddly enough, Japanese culture is highly borrowed from Chinese culture. Go figure.


Why in the hell Japan or anybody would want resemble america is beyond me. I am japanese and I think its a VERY bad thing....But I hate america.

Why in the hell Japan or anybody would want resemble america is beyond me. I am japanese and I think its a VERY bad thing....But I hate america.
No culture is inherently good or bad. Americans parade their sex on TV. But we also don't have constant gropings or vending machines of girls underwear.

No culture is without its flaws.

No culture is inherently good or bad. Americans parade their sex on TV. But we also don't have constant gropings or vending machines of girls underwear.

No culture is without its flaws.



Ugg. Japan didn't use to have that...There are things about my nation I am not proud of...That would be one.

No culture is inherently good or bad. Americans parade their sex on TV. But we also don't have constant gropings or vending machines of girls underwear.

No culture is without its flaws.

A very true statement. I don't hate cultures, I just realize that they are often taken advantage of to further inappropriate ends. As Sarkhaan well said, cultures always change anyway so why not have just one where people can't use the culture card for conflict. Oh, on Iraq you said it was more out of religion, but religion is a fundamental part of culture.

Why in the hell Japan or anybody would want resemble america is beyond me. I am japanese and I think its a VERY bad thing....But I hate america.

What, particularly, do you object to about US culture?

What, particularly, do you object to about US culture?



This nation is fat lazy and materialistic. Our movies and music have become bland and we have a culture of waste..comsumer culture? Our books are crap and our art is a effin joke.

A very true statement. I don't hate cultures, I just realize that they are often taken advantage of to further inappropriate ends. As Sarkhaan well said, cultures always change anyway so why not have just one where people can't use the culture card for conflict. Oh, on Iraq you said it was more out of religion, but religion is a fundamental part of culture.
hmm...not quite the conclusion I was going for. I was more saying that being protectionist about a culture is pointless. Culture arises from what a society needs, wants, and has. As those change, so does culture. It will change no matter what, both from internal and external influences. To try to stop that from happening is about as effective as trying to stop the sun from rising. It will happen no matter what you do.

A very true statement. I don't hate cultures, I just realize that they are often taken advantage of to further inappropriate ends. As Sarkhaan well said, cultures always change anyway so why not have just one where people can't use the culture card for conflict. Oh, on Iraq you said it was more out of religion, but religion is a fundamental part of culture.



In other words kill all cultures and create a vanilla dome. BORING! Why not just teach people to respect all cultures? Killing them will only cause strif not end it.

hmm...not quite the conclusion I was going for. I was more saying that being protectionist about a culture is pointless. Culture arises from what a society needs, wants, and has. As those change, so does culture. It will change no matter what, both from internal and external influences. To try to stop that from happening is about as effective as trying to stop the sun from rising. It will happen no matter what you do.

Well I agree with your analysis in any case, but what conclusion would you draw from it?

This nation is fat lazy and materialistic. Our movies and music have become bland and we have a culture of waste..comsumer culture? Our books are crap and our art is a effin joke.
some books are crap, some art is a joke. Some music and movies are bland. There is more to it than just what you see that you don't like. Dig deeper into the culture and you'll find some amazing things. Just because it isn't pop culture doesn't mean it isn't a part of the culture.

Not to mention, there are, I would say, atleast a dozen or so major "American" cultures

This nation is fat lazy and materialistic. Our movies and music have become bland and we have a culture of waste..comsumer culture? Our books are crap and our art is a effin joke.

So suppose globalisation brings about a change in US culture whereby the skinny and well-toned people of Skinniandwelltonedia produce a series of television shows that takes popularity in America, and discourages these traits.

Would you welcome the changes? Or would this be an example of Globalisation ruining a unique culture?

Well I agree with your analysis in any case, but what conclusion would you draw from it?
well, I don't agree that we should have a singular world culture. I don't even think that would be possible. The conclusion I draw is that change is inevitable. It isn't good, it isn't bad, it just is. Cultures will continually change as the demands of the society in question changes. I could claim a single world culture, just as I can claim a single American culture. The fact is, the culture of New England is vastly different from that of Hawaii or Georgia or Kansas.

Essentially, there will always be change. Embrace it rather than trying to stop it.

In other words kill all cultures and create a vanilla dome. BORING! Why not just teach people to respect all cultures? Killing them will only cause strif not end it.

Look I agree that in the ideal world that respecting cultural differences would be best, but realistically that's not going to happen. Has it ever occurred to you that not respecting other cultures may be a key element in some cultures? You are being a hypocrite by throttling the Western notion of toleration down on other cultures. That's cultural imperialism if I ever saw it. Why do you assume that one global culture would be "vanilla". Are you saying that other cultures are too inferior to resist vanilla elements?

Globalization is inevitable. Deal with it.

No it is not. We had more international trade as a percentage of GDP in 1895 than we do today.

The simple fact is that globalization is not gravity. Hell, it's not even on the same level as supply-and-demand. It's a contingent state of the global economy that is allowed to exist because a combination of protectionist measures in the U.S. economy coupled with exploitative measures by the World Bank and IMF have passed policies that make it possible. If those laws were altered or abolished, such as pegging our tariff rates for Chinese goods to the rate they undervalue their currency, the system would collapse.

That being said, I'm not prima facie opposed to globalization. I'm opposed to exploiting people in the Third World for the benefit of stockholders share values in America. After all, the purpose of the economy in the first place is to better the lives of the humans who participate in it. So I'm not in favor of abolishing globalization so much as tinkering with our current policies to ensure more fair distribution of capital. I think that in addition to being plain-old right, it would also have practical benefits, such as reducing our global trade gap by making labor costs among overseas companies comparable to ours and allowing foreign workers enough capital to buy American goods.

No it is not. We had more international trade as a percentage of GDP in 1895 than we do today.
we've had more, but we've never been without. The very existance of the various nations of the Americas is a perfect example. Globalization is nothing new, and the only way to stop it is to completely effectively lock down a country. No person, goods, or ideas could cross the boarder in either direction, legally or illegally.

Look I agree that in the ideal world that respecting cultural differences would be best, but realistically that's not going to happen. Has it ever occurred to you that not respecting other cultures may be a key element in some cultures? You are being a hypocrite by throttling the Western notion of toleration down on other cultures. That's cultural imperialism if I ever saw it. Why do you assume that one global culture would be "vanilla". Are you saying that other cultures are too inferior to resist vanilla elements?


Vanilla means bland, and thats what a monocultural world would be...BLAND!

we've had more, but we've never been without. The very existance of the various nations of the Americas is a perfect example. Globalization is nothing new, and the only way to stop it is to completely effectively lock down a country. No person, goods, or ideas could cross the boarder in either direction, legally or illegally.



Can I say pass on that?

Vanilla means bland, and thats what a monocultural world would be...BLAND!
bland would be an understatement.

well, I don't agree that we should have a singular world culture. I don't even think that would be possible. The conclusion I draw is that change is inevitable. It isn't good, it isn't bad, it just is. Cultures will continually change as the demands of the society in question changes. I could claim a single world culture, just as I can claim a single American culture. The fact is, the culture of New England is vastly different from that of Hawaii or Georgia or Kansas.

Essentially, there will always be change. Embrace it rather than trying to stop it.

What I guess I am saying is that there would be a single world culture like how there is a single American culture. Like you said, New England culture is very different than the culture of Texas, but both are linked together through an overall bond. The coming world culture definitely wouldn't be monotonous because culture at its heart is created by the social interactions that we have around us. With billions of people on this earth, not everyone can ever talk to each other. So in a sense I agree that a true single culture can never happen. Of course I don't know that for sure as this cultural topic is difficult to discuss because its very contextual in regards to terminology. For example, at what point does a subculture become a culture?

bland would be an understatement.


Got a better word? Bland, boring, mindnumbing, dull?

There won't be a monoculture because culture is generated by social interactions. People can't have social interactions with everyone on this planet. Thus there will never be a great monoculture. What there will be is a united culture with many beautiful and vibrant subcultures all thanks in part to globalization. Even if there was just a boring monoculture I would rather have that than war.

Got a better word? Bland, boring, mindnumbing, dull?
all of the above.

What I guess I am saying is that there would be a single world culture like how there is a single American culture. Like you said, New England culture is very different than the culture of Texas, but both are linked together through an overall bond. The coming world culture definitely wouldn't be monotonous because culture at its heart is created by the social interactions that we have around us. With billions of people on this earth, not everyone can ever talk to each other. So in a sense I agree that a true single culture can never happen. Of course I don't know that for sure as this cultural topic is difficult to discuss because its very contextual in regards to terminology. For example, at what point does a subculture become a culture?



A subculture is a break off from the mainstream, in some ways its just a different take on whats already there. It would only become a culture when it breaks away completely or becomes more popular than the culture it is broken off from.

So suppose globalisation brings about a change in US culture whereby the skinny and well-toned people of Skinniandwelltonedia produce a series of television shows that takes popularity in America, and discourages these traits.

Would you welcome the changes? Or would this be an example of Globalisation ruining a unique culture?

It appears that Empress Suiko opted to ignore this well-phrased query.

Do you support Globalization? Do you like it but think it has alot of flaws that need to be fixed? I for hate it, I believe it destroys the history and culture of smaller nations and makes them pawns of ubernations and I also think it puts 99% of the world in the hands of 2% of the population. Which is another resaon I hate the asian currency unit as it will just lead to a asian nation of the koreas, china and Japan. I don't want a one nation world and all people to lose the right to govern themselves. Thoughts?






Something I wrote somewhere else. I don't mind if you disagree, just keep it clean.

I hate it! All countries got the right to govern themselves and preserve their local cultures...

There won't be a monoculture because culture is generated by social interactions. People can't have social interactions with everyone on this planet. Thus there will never be a great monoculture. What there will be is a united culture with many beautiful and vibrant subcultures all thanks in part to globalization. Even if there was just a boring monoculture I would rather have that than war.


I would rather have a world of diversity where each country is different and unique and have to deal with war than create a boring vanilla planet. Just teach people to respect other cultures.

Also to think there will ever be no wars and world peace is naive.

A subculture is a break off from the mainstream, in some ways its just a different take on whats already there. It would only become a culture when it breaks away completely or becomes more popular than the culture it is broken off from.

I would say that a culture is a conglomerate of lots of subcultures each having its unique elements. A culture is just the elements that all the subcultures share.

I hate it! All countries got the right to govern themselves and preserve their local cultures...



I agree.

I would rather have a world of diversity where each country is different and unique and have to deal with war than create a boring vanilla planet. Just teach people to respect other cultures.

Also to think there will ever be no wars and world peace is naive.

Teaching people to respect other cultures is cultural imperialism. Some cultures are intolerant of other ones. You're being hypocritical. I don't think that one culture would lead to peace, but I believe it would certainly help.

I agree.

I agree that all countries should be able to defend the local culture. I'm just saying that the world would be better with one. I definitely don't advocate forcing one culture upon anyone, especially since it is inevitable. I would say we have a global culture already. It is bound quite loosely by an enthusiasm for the sport known by Americans as soccer.

Teaching people to respect other cultures is cultural imperialism. Some cultures are intolerant of other ones. You're being hypocritical. I don't think that one culture would lead to peace, but I believe it would certainly help.


Since when is teaching tolerance imperialism? No culture is intolerant by others in its nature, its just that some people teach that theirs culture is better than others. Its not imperialism to get rid of that.

I agree that all countries should be able to defend the local culture. I'm just saying that the world would be better with one. I definitely don't advocate forcing one culture upon anyone, especially since it is inevitable. I would say we have a global culture already. It is bound quite loosely by an enthusiasm for the sport known by Americans as soccer.



I hate that boring sport. As more sports grow like basketball, baseball and American "real" football you can and will see soccer fade in popularity.

I agree.

Where are you from btw??

Since when is teaching tolerance imperialism? No culture is intolerant by others in its nature, its just that some people teach that theirs culture is better than others. Its not imperialism to get rid of that.
japanese are intolerant of koreans and vice versa. And chinese. And french/british/german.

Since when is teaching tolerance imperialism? No culture is intolerant by others in its nature, its just that some people teach that theirs culture is better than others. Its not imperialism to get rid of that.

The culture of Nazi Germany not tolerant by nature. People don't start off intolerant, but cultures can. Cultural imperialism is forcibly changing a culture because of convictions that theirs is better.

I hate that boring sport. As more sports grow like basketball, baseball and American "real" football you can and will see soccer fade in popularity.

I personally don't like soccer much myself, but I recognize that it is a key part of our global culture.

Where are you from btw??


Takayama, Japan

Capitialism also screws over the workers, destroys the worlds resources and put 99% of the worlds money in the hands of 2% of its population. Capitialism also rapes small nations for the benefit of the big. Capitialism also screws over the consumer by having greedy companies control the planet and raising costs...Oil anyone?

Globalization also destroys small nation culture and has lead to 90% of the planet being controled by 1% of the population. The fear tactic we would be stuck in the 1980's is a lie. I won't destroy Japan's or any other nations people or culture for profit.

If you haden't noticed I am a japanese nationalist and a emerging hardline socialist.

I disagree with basically everything you say, here.

Capitalism can't screw over the workers, because the workers are free to choose their employers. They are free to unionise. Capitalism is about voluntary exchange, and that precludes coersion.

That distribution of money you describe - why do you think that's bad? As long as everyone has enough to feed and clothe themselves, and no one's forced into poverty, what does it matter how rich the richest are?

Small nations are harmed primarily by the protectionism of large nations. That's not capitalism. If the small nations were allowed to compete freely with the large nations, the low-tech and labour-heavy work would be done primarily in those small, poor countries.

Capitalism benefits the consumers because the corporations compete with each other, thus lowering prices and providing greater variety of products and better services.

The price of oil is determined on an open market. When demand exceeds supply, the price rises. That's how a free market rations shortages. Without the higher prices, you'd end up with waiting lists instead. Is that better?

Most of the problems you're describing are actually caused by government regulation of markets. For example, there's a strong corporate lobby that tells governments to protect them from lower-priced competition in poorer nations. If the governments didn't hav the power to regulate the market like that, the corporations would be forced to compete fairly.

If I might recommend some reading material, I offer The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek.

japanese are intolerant of koreans and vice versa. And chinese. And french/british/german.



Wrong. I am Japanese and am tolerant of Korea. Korea is only intolerant because of World War 2, its not our culture they have an issue with but our actions during that war.

globalisation-one way its a good thing, its creating a world community
bad thing-its dominated by the americans and us brits-there needs to be tighter restictions on world trade so that big companies dont exploit little ones and poor countries too!

Takayama, Japan

That's so cool. I admire your strict immigration measures (& Japan in general). Keep up the good work. Dont let your country become an immigrant hell hole where most of the rapes are commited by immigrants and your very own goverment supresses the data in the name of political correctness. :headbang:
But you guys should seriously reconsider your dolphin hunting policy...Anyway, enough of me rambling...

I disagree with basically everything you say, here.

Capitalism can't screw over the workers, because the workers are free to choose their employers. They are free to unionise. Capitalism is about voluntary exchange, and that precludes coersion.

That distribution of money you describe - why do you think that's bad? As long as everyone has enough to feed and clothe themselves, and no one's forced into poverty, what does it matter how rich the richest are?

Small nations are harmed primarily by the protectionism of large nations. That's not capitalism. If the small nations were allowed to compete freely with the large nations, the low-tech and labour-heavy work would be done primarily in those small, poor countries.

Capitalism benefits the consumers because the corporations compete with each other, thus lowering prices and providing greater variety of products and better services.

The price of oil is determined on an open market. When demand exceeds supply, the price rises. That's how a free market rations shortages. Without the higher prices, you'd end up with waiting lists instead. Is that better?

Most of the problems you're describing are actually caused by government regulation of markets. For example, there's a strong corporate lobby that tells governments to protect them from lower-priced competition in poorer nations. If the governments didn't hav the power to regulate the market like that, the corporations would be forced to compete fairly.

If I might recommend some reading material, I offer The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek.

Well said. But on another note who is Friedrich Hayek and what is in his book? It sounds good.

It is human nature to get pissed off and fight the norm. Even if globalization happened. subcultures would springup, either through revolution, or cultural evolutions and you end up with another multicultural world society.

Look at the Roman empire at its height. and just beofre its fall.

That's so cool. I admire your strict immigration measures (& Japan in general). Keep up the good work. Dont let your country become an immigrant hell hole where most of the rapes are commited by immigrants and your very own goverment supresses the data in the name of political correctness. :headbang:
But you guys should seriously reconsider your dolphin hunting policy...Anyway, enough of me rambling...



Cool. But for some reason we have a large Brazilian minority and some are talking about more immigration..but only some. Right now Japan is turning into a mini-america and that pisses me off.

Dolphin Hunting....I have spoken out against that, I love Dolphins.

It is human nature to get pissed off and fight the norm. Even if globalization happened. subcultures would springup, either through revolution, or cultural evolutions and you end up with another multicultural world society.

Look at the Roman empire at its height. and just beofre its fall.

While it did keep multicultural elements, many cultures and languages were destroyed. Example: The Etruscans. Linguistically Umbrian and Oscan, Latin's two cousins also bit the dust. I forgot where I read this, but I remember hearing this fact: The number of languages around the Med. Sea dropped from 60 to 10 after the Roman Empire. If the Roman Empire lasted longer, it is likely that more languages/cultures would have disappeared. Unlike the Romans, I don't see globalization ending any time soon.

It is human nature to get pissed off and fight the norm. Even if globalization happened. subcultures would springup, either through revolution, or cultural evolutions and you end up with another multicultural world society.

Look at the Roman empire at its height. and just beofre its fall.



Note that it fell.

While it did keep multicultural elements, many cultures and languages were destroyed. Example: The Etruscans. Linguistically Umbrian and Oscan, Latin's two cousins also bit the dust. I forgot where I read this, but I remember hearing this fact: The number of languages around the Med. Sea dropped from 60 to 10 after the Roman Empire. If the Roman Empire lasted longer, it is likely that more languages/cultures would have disappeared. Unlike the Romans, I don't see globalization ending any time soon.



History repeats itself.

You just named some of the reasons I hate Globalisation.

History repeats itself.

You just named some of the reasons I hate Globalisation.

True, but for once we agree with each other. Globalization isn't going any time soon.

Cool. But for some reason we have a large Brazilian minority and some are talking about more immigration..but only some. Right now Japan is turning into a mini-america and that pisses me off.

Dolphin Hunting....I have spoken out against that, I love Dolphins.

Those pro-immigrants pop up like mushrooms. And it is really ironic and amusing when they think they got the higher moral ground when they are basically arguing for slave labour.
Everywhere is turning to mini-America and I hate that too. I blame Hollywood.
About dolphins, great to hear you opinion. I love them too...

Those pro-immigrants pop up like mushrooms. And it is really ironic and amusing when they think they got the higher moral ground when they are basically arguing for slave labour.

I think slaves tended to desire emancipation. How many immigrants desire deportation?

True, but for once we agree with each other. Globalization isn't going any time soon.

Maybe it's my wishful thinking, but I believe Europe is becoming much more protectionist and inward looking....
And we got China and India coming fast, so it wont be all Pax-Americana....

For you globalization-haters, what would you prefer: To be apart of a united Earth with a great flourishing of progress, but with the expense that many languages disappear OR For all humans to be apart of individualist tribes of 100 or so roaming the earth, but intact with all our own cultures and languages. I will be sad when languages disappear, but progress is more important than keeping hold to sentimental ornaments.

I think slaves tended to desire emancipation. How many immigrants desire deportation?

Slave owners thought they were doing the best thing for slaves (giving them job and food) What does that remind you?

Maybe it's my wishful thinking, but I believe Europe is becoming much more protectionist and inward looking....
And we got China and India coming fast, so it wont be all Pax-Americana....


Asia is moving towards a united currency. The ACU...

Slave owners thought they were doing the best thing for slaves (giving them job and food) What does that remind you?

When the illegal immigrants in the United States say that they don't want citizenship, and instead want to be deported back to where they came from, I will support the efforts to deport them and deny them citizenship.

Since they have shown that they desire the opposite, I support the efforts to let them become citizens and remain.

Maybe it's my wishful thinking, but I believe Europe is becoming much more protectionist and inward looking....
And we got China and India coming fast, so it wont be all Pax-Americana....

Yeah, I agree that America's reign of domination is coming to a close. I believe the English political philosopher Alexander Tyler once theorized that all nations go through life cycles of about 200 years. America is nearing the end of its life, not that a new government couldn't arise and respawn the life cycle. But I'm not sure I see the link between what I posted and you wrote under it.

Yeah, I agree that America's reign of domination is coming to a close. I believe the English political philosopher Alexander Tyler once theorized that all nations go through life cycles of about 200 years. America is nearing the end of its life, not that a new government couldn't arise and respawn the life cycle. But I'm not sure I see the link between what I posted and you wrote under it.

Europe more inward looking = slowing or maybe ending (on some aspects) globalisation in Europe
China & India = More "polarity" and hence less uniforming. Or the competition between USA, China and India could give other countries some break?

When the illegal immigrants in the United States say that they don't want citizenship, and instead want to be deported back to where they came from, I will support the efforts to deport them and deny them citizenship.

Since they have shown that they desire the opposite, I support the efforts to let them become citizens and remain.

Highly skilled people in Africa wants to come to Europe too. But that'd make the things worse there and detrimental for economic growth. So few people might get what they want but it'd be worse for a larger number of people....

Highly skilled people in Africa wants to come to Europe too. But that'd make the things worse there and detrimental for economic growth. So few people might get what they want but it'd be worse for a larger number of people....

Ny Nordland is absolutely right about this. Being allowed to immigrate is not some right, its a privilege that the country of destination gives to the immigrants. Too much can be very detrimental, just look at the Western Roman Empire. Yet stupid people insist that anyone who wants should be allowed to come in.

It's been good arguing and discussing with you all even if I disagree with certain things some of you have to say, but I have to go.

Ny Nordland is absolutely right about this. Being allowed to immigrate is not some right, its a privilege that the country of destination gives to the immigrants. Too much can be very detrimental, just look at the Western Roman Empire. Yet stupid people insist that anyone who wants should be allowed to come in.
I concur.