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There was none of that sort when I was in high school.
( Which was in another millenium. )

As far as I can tell, being an emo is being a crybaby.
( that doesn't say much, I admit. I consider anyone who is unable to hold the tears back while undergoing dental surgery as a soft-as-shite-tosser.)

But I'm sure that there is:
A] more to it.
B] the fact that first impressions ( aka stereotypes ) can be deceptive.

Anyone wants to enlighten me?

Well, as far as I can tell and I'm sure this will get shouted down shortly, an Emo is sort of a pale imitation of a goth, with elements of wanna-be punks.

People who listen to typically angsty, overly whiney pop-rock (there was emo in the 80s, but it was different), dress the fashion to match (flesh tunnels, dyed black hair engineered to look messy, sometimes androgynous) and live the angst. Usually from upper-middle class families without a care in the world, but occasionally richer ones too.

Often goes hand in hand with being straight-edge.

Any questions?

( that doesn't say much, I admit. I consider anyone who is unable to hold the tears back while undergoing dental surgery as a soft-as-shite-tosser.)

wow you're so hard. those people certainly are beneath you...

I'd never heard of them before I came on this forum, I think it's an American thing.

As far as I can tell, an emo is a middle class teenager who has everything in life but still thinks that the world is against them and no one else has feelings like they do. They act depressed and spend the time convinced that they have the worst life in the history of the world, ever.

wow you're so hard. those people certainly are beneath you...

Absolutely, as any true man knows, the true test of your right to a penis is pain resistance.

As such, I propose we award women undergoing pregnancy with honourary penises.

Who cares? Seriously. Damn stereotypes and labels and judgements.... *shakes fist*

People who listen to typically angsty, overly whiney pop-rock (there was emo in the 80s, but it was different), dress the fashion to match (flesh tunnels, dyed black hair engineered to look messy, sometimes androgynous) and live the angst. Usually from upper-middle class families without a care in the world, but occasionally richer ones too.

Often goes hand in hand with being straight-edge.

Any questions?

Er, yeah.

What's angsty?
( I don't listen to any kind of modern music, so...)

wow you're so hard. those people certainly are beneath you...

Especially on the map.
They wont be living anywhere near the North Riding, or the Tyne.

They listen to the most technically deficient, bland, repetitive music with whiny vocals and seem to be under the impression that they have the worst life ever (even though most of them are well off white kids without a care in the world) and believe that their lives are intrinsically sad and seem to believe that slashing the skin of their wrists will relieve their imaginary/fabricated or massively exaggerated problems. They usually wear the following:
*Black pants that are too tight
*Black shirts with a white emo band logo on them
*A sweater/jumper that is two sizes two small
*"Nerd" glasses (i.e. thick, black framed rectangular glasses)
They also usually have a long fringe which they comb over one eye (why they'd want to obstruct their vision is a mystery) with short-medium length hair for the rest of it that is very messy and uncombed.

Needless to say they are pathetic and need to be purged. Anyone that disagrees is probably an emo anyway. Pathetic people.

This whole emo craze had passed me by entirely until Download. Before then I had never heard the term and spent all last weekend thinking "what the hell is an emo and why are all these people shouting crazy insults?"

Thank you for the answer. I can safely say that half the people I've so far heard using the term were emos when they were teenagers themselves. Other's would probably describe me as such back in the day too, so I shall refrain from throwing the term about.

Here you go:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo

I think definitions 3 and 6 are the best descriptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

Wikipedia...gotta love it...

They're a more miserable relative of the Emu.

Especially on the map.
They wont be living anywhere near the North Riding, or the Tyne.
Ah, you'll have inherited the Geordie gene. Blocks every pain receptor in the body and actually makes it pleasurable to nut someone. ¬_¬

Everyone's answers to what's an emo seem ok, so I'll just add that if you look around here (myspace.com) then you'll probably find a few decent examples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

Wikipedia...gotta love it...

Gross. Not the kind of person who would be invited to join a rugby squad.


*likes the thread, really*

not all emos wear black all the time
sometimes they deviate into dark red

and the whole emo thing i think is more of a rebellion against society
[like every generation has done since forever]
emos are the 2000s version of the punk movement
its not a whole lot different, but thats just cos my generation is all too lazy to create their own thing
if everyone embraced emo-ism, then it would die out faster than the tamagotchi craze.
the fact that people look down on the emos only makes it more appealing to the kids who don't want to be a part of the crowd, who wanna be an 'individual'

i have slight emo tendancies [i think], so thats my spin on it

People who listen to typically angsty, overly whiney pop-rock (there was emo in the 80s, but it was different), dress the fashion to match (flesh tunnels, dyed black hair engineered to look messy, sometimes androgynous) and live the angst. Usually from upper-middle class families without a care in the world, but occasionally richer ones too.

Often goes hand in hand with being straight-edge.

Any questions?

Straight Edge? What planet do you live on?:rolleyes:

All the emo kids I know drink and smoke.

Well, I've only met only one emo that I ever liked and that was Emo Phillips.

Emos get a pretty bad rep.

I like some emo music (Motion City Soundtrack especially but some Panic! At The Disco and *shock!* Jimmy Eat World) and consider some to be crap (Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance et all).

Emo style (they have any?) is pretty crap but then so was punk before it and let's not forget the goths either. At least emos have heard of colours that aren't purple, black or red!

Most of them are regular people. My girlfriend would probably be considered emo but she's probably more stable than me (indie-punk/prog-geek* :p) and certainly isn't a whiny cutter.

I know more chavs who do the whole depressive 'OMG LIFE SUXXORZZZ!1!eleven' than I do emos who do it...

*In other words I have no sense of style, play wargames a lot and listen to weird music :D

Emos get a pretty bad rep.

I like some emo music (Motion City Soundtrack especially but some Panic! At The Disco and *shock!* Jimmy Eat World) and consider some to be crap (Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance et all).

Emo style (they have any?) is pretty crap but then so was punk before it and let's not forget the goths either. At least emos have heard of colours that aren't purple, black or red!

Most of them are regular people. My girlfriend would probably be considered emo but she's probably more stable than me (indie-punk/prog-geek* :p) and certainly isn't a whiny cutter.

I know more chavs who do the whole depressive 'OMG LIFE SUXXORZZZ!1!eleven' than I do emos who do it...

*In other words I have no sense of style, play wargames a lot and listen to weird music :D

Ok. Learn by heart:

PANIC! AT THE DISCO ARE NOT EMO

Spitalfield are emo, June are emo, hell, Ice Nine kills are emo, but Panic! are not.

Large, flightless birds, sort of like wooly ostriches ;)

Ok. Learn by heart:

PANIC! AT THE DISCO ARE NOT EMO

Spitalfield are emo, June are emo, hell, Ice Nine kills are emo, but Panic! are not.

So what the fuck are they?

Given that only the emos I know even like them at all and everyone else thinks they are emo...

There was none of that sort when I was in high school.
( Which was in another millenium. )

As far as I can tell, being an emo is being a crybaby.
( that doesn't say much, I admit. I consider anyone who is unable to hold the tears back while undergoing dental surgery as a soft-as-shite-tosser.)

But I'm sure that there is:
A] more to it.
B] the fact that first impressions ( aka stereotypes ) can be deceptive.

Anyone wants to enlighten me?
They're like goths, only replace about 30% of the anger with tender sadness. Kind of like punk rockers, if you took out all the punk and the rock.

So what the fuck are they?

Given that only the emos I know even like them at all and everyone else thinks they are emo...

I am probably a teensy bit emo (fashion core hair cut, predominantly black wardrobe etc), and all my friends loathe Panic!. They are not emo. In what way are they emo? The guitars? erm, no. The screams? erm, no again. Bu surely the vocals? erm, nope, the vocals are dance core.

So what the fuck are they?

Given that only the emos I know even like them at all and everyone else thinks they are emo...

They are not emo, they're poprock. FalloutBoy is technically -not- emo, but using the logic thread of intelligence+2 ("FalloutBoy isn't emo, but it sucks, and when you get right down to it, all sucky music might as well be emo.") they can become as such and be ridiculed and laughed at etc etc.

I think Panic is decent. That's just me.


Are you emo!? You may be! Follow these simple questions!:

1. Do you purposely try to make people feel bad for you while acting like you don't care!?

2. Do you invent problems and then whine about them to everyone you meet!?

3. Were you preppy, not any less than three years ago before everyone you knew started becoming emo!?

4. Do you cut your wrists in the hope that it'll give you something else to whine about?!

And finally - 5. Do you listen to shitty music that makes you even more depressed than you've already made yourself so that in effect it's all your fault and all in your head?!


If you've answered "YES" to three out of the five questions here, YOU ARE EMO.

Thanks for playing.

They are not emo, they're poprock. FalloutBoy is technically -not- emo, but using the logic thread of intelligence+2 ("FalloutBoy isn't emo, but it sucks, and when you get right down to it, all sucky music might as well be emo.") they can become as such and be ridiculed and laughed at etc etc.

I think Panic is decent. That's just me.


Are you emo!? You may be! Follow these simple questions!:

1. Do you purposely try to make people feel bad for you while acting like you don't care!?

2. Do you invent problems and then whine about them to everyone you meet!?

3. Were you preppy, not any less than three years ago before everyone you knew started becoming emo!?

4. Do you cut your wrists in the hope that it'll give you something else to whine about?!

And finally - 5. Do you listen to shitty music that makes you even more depressed than you've already made yourself so that in effect it's all your fault and all in your head?!


If you've answered "YES" to three out of the five questions here, YOU ARE EMO.

Thanks for playing.

No True Scotsman anyone? And given that FOB seem to be being billed as 'the first emo superstars' or somesuch I'd say they are indeed emo...

Emo on the internet seems to mean 'any given person with emotional problems who actually acknowledges it' anyway so it's probably a touch pointless anyway *shrug*

People are kind of Missing the point. Emo is the music, music creatres subcultures, emo has become a subculture based on the charactersitics of the music and its fans.

Emo is emotional music therefore people started classifying those who associated with that music, as emotional. In truth its just a style for most people, and the music is like anyother music that expresses discontent with some aspect of life, even if some or most of those aspects are rather miniscule on a large scale. But its not always just bad aspects, Its not About things being "bad" or wrong" its about it being EMOTIONAL, and most humans I know have more emotions then just "sad". most people who like emo are not whiney, or roll around crying to others. They infact just like its form of expression. The music is a form of romanticism, with overly elaborate and poetic lyrics, made to inspire emotion.

What you are seeing from kids who dress a certain way is not them being "This or that". its simple fashion, Because not everyone who likes the music or is even apart of its "scene" dress a certain way or specifically in that way. For those who do dress that way to be associated with a certain music, who knows what it is, insecurity or something.. most people grow out of it. People who like the fashion wear the fashion.

Infact from experience most of the people who have grown with it dont feel the need to dress up at all.

And Despite what I am Posting, My knowldged from this does not come from "being Emo". I've grown up, with hardcore and all these derivatives of emo and screamo in my home town since you could barely tell the difference between hardcore and punk.

Emo is emotional music...
All music is emotional on some level. You lose.

They want to be individuals. Well, I’m one of the people making sure they never feel comfortable enough to belong to a group.

you completely missed the point... Wait THAT WAS MYPOINT.. its FASHION you are seeing, and NOT a Music Specific CULture. the word emo, MEANS EMOTIONAL. That's what it what the genre ofmusic is called as a genre. my point is infact, the music is not what is different, its people seeing these kids dressed a certain way and having to associate them.


They want to be individuals. Well, I’m one of the people making sure they never feel comfortable enough to belong to a group.

and if thats the way you feel then fine. Im not Defending the people who feel they need to dress a certain way to be apart of something, Im trying to clear up the misconceptions of what emo is.

I really don't care if you are a better human being than them. You win I guess?

I'd never heard of them before I came on this forum, I think it's an American thing.
I'm from down Bristol way (arrr, zoider etc), and the buggers are ten-a-penny, especially in my college and city centre, where all the "jitters" used to hang out. I think it's possibly because being a "jitter" (people trying to be alternative by going for the skater look) have now flipped over and become "alternative" by dressing like stereotypical "emos". I just think the main sort of fashion looks vaguely ridiculous, the music isn't to my taste and their attitudes get on my nerves.

I'll probably get beaten by someone like Red Autumn for saying that, but, hey, it's my opinion.

I'm from down Bristol way (arrr, zoider etc), and the buggers are ten-a-penny, especially in my college and city centre, where all the "jitters" used to hang out. I think it's possibly because being a "jitter" (people trying to be alternative by going for the skater look) have now flipped over and become "alternative" by dressing like stereotypical "emos". I just think the main sort of fashion looks vaguely ridiculous, the music isn't to my taste and their attitudes get on my nerves.

I'll probably get beaten by someone like Red Autumn for saying that, but, hey, it's my opinion.

Dude, you have the coolest club ever in your city.Stutter is amazing, and definitely not the reason I'm applying to Bristol Uni....;)

I'm from down Bristol way (arrr, zoider etc), and the buggers are ten-a-penny, especially in my college and city centre, where all the "jitters" used to hang out. I think it's possibly because being a "jitter" (people trying to be alternative by going for the skater look) have now flipped over and become "alternative" by dressing like stereotypical "emos". I just think the main sort of fashion looks vaguely ridiculous, the music isn't to my taste and their attitudes get on my nerves.

I'll probably get beaten by someone like Red Autumn for saying that, but, hey, it's my opinion.

Nah, you got the point.. people start dressing that way to be associated with something. which is dumb, as is the attitude that they are cool, tough, or special becuase of it.

You Win.

I'm from down Bristol way (arrr, zoider etc),
Dude, you have the coolest club ever in your city.Stutter is amazing, and definitely not the reason I'm applying to Bristol Uni....
Woo! Bristol!

(Bristol Graduate)

Woo! Bristol!

(Bristol Graduate)

Assuming I haven't insulted you recetly, what are you studying? hows the Uni?

I don't know whether to go for York, Durham, Kings (London), Oxford, St. Andrewsor Britsol.

Sorry, Red, I wasn't trying to "win" you or anything, just my rather opinionated... opinion.

EDIT: Eeeee... all these people coming to the rather prestigeous Uni in my city.

I have to recommend the King William pub, it's proper pub. Plus the booze is cheap.

£1.70 a pint is like 90p cheaper than the rest of the city!

Nah Man, I wasnt being a jackass or anything. I was being friendly. you win because you get the point and share your oppinion which I like.
:fluffle:

Assuming I haven't insulted you recetly, what are you studying? hows the Uni?

I don't know whether to go for York, Durham, Kings (London), Oxford, St. Andrewsor Britsol.
I said Bristol Graduate, not Undergraduate. :p

I studied Politics. It's a great city to live and work in. I really want to go back and live in the area at some point in the not too distant future.

Don't go there if you don't like walking, though. The Halls are about two miles from the Uni itself, and Bristol public transport is actually in the dictionary under 'total crap'.

I said Bristol Graduate, not Undergraduate. :p

I studied Politics. It's a great city to live and work in. I really want to go back and live in the area at some point in the not too distant future.

Don't go there if you don't like walking, though. The Halls are about two miles from the Uni itself, and Bristol public transport is actually in the dictionary under 'total crap'.

Heh heh. Hows the female population?

Sorry, Red, I wasn't trying to "win" you or anything, just my rather opinionated... opinion.

EDIT: Eeeee... all these people coming to the rather prestigeous Uni in my city.

I have to recommend the King William pub, it's proper pub. Plus the booze is cheap.

£1.70 a pint is like 90p cheaper than the rest of the city!

Jesus Christ, that is cheap actually.

Heh heh. Hows the female population?
Well, I would say on my course the male/female ratio was probably 30-70%, so you've got good odds. ;)

Well, I would say on my course the male/female ratio was probably 30-70%, so you've got good odds. ;)

Thank god for that. I looked round St. Andrews, and, I'm not sure if its the water up north, but Jesus Christ the ugly stick had been busy....

Well, I would say on my course the male/female ratio was probably 30-70%, so you've got good odds. ;)

Holy crap.....Thats awesome!

Thank god for that. I looked round St. Andrews, and, I'm not sure if its the water up north, but Jesus Christ the ugly stick had been busy....
Are you sure they just aren't, you know, English?:p

Are you sure they just aren't, you know, English?:p

Could be, but I'm sure I heard welsh in there somewhere.

Holy crap.....Thats awesome!
It's a more even ratio in the Uni as a whole, but I remember suddenly realising about half way through my second year that all of my politics classes were dominated by woman. I can be curiously unobservant at times. :p

It's a more even ratio in the Uni as a whole, but I remember suddenly realising about half way through my second year that all of my politics classes were dominated by woman. I can be curiously unobservant at times. :p

Presumably you, unlike everyone else, was actually working?

Presumably you, unlike everyone else, was actually working?
Nah, you don't work in Politics classes, you spend all day arguing with each other about things you can never change.

A bit like a real life version of NS General, really. :p

I am engaged though, so I wasn't spending the time eyeing up the other girls.

Don't go there if you don't like walking, though. The Halls are about two miles from the Uni itself, and Bristol public transport is actually in the dictionary under 'total crap'.
Indeed. God did not smile upon the Bristolian public transport system when He (or possibly the Tory government, although I'm not equating God and them) privatised it. It costs roughly £2-odd to go about 2 miles, what with FirstBus monopolising the system.

It's a more even ratio in the Uni as a whole, but I remember suddenly realising about half way through my second year that all of my politics classes were dominated by woman. I can be curiously unobservant at times. :p

Hahaha, That sudden epiphany must have brought great joy. I imagine choir's

engaged

Hahah, dang. You're an honorable man though.

I just want to make a couple points to differentiate between two very different forms of emo.

1. Scene: This is the bunch of losers who wear girl-pants, have their hair over their eye (black, preferably), and wear really shitty sweaters. Most of them like "underground" music that evolves in the local "Scene", but quickly reject ANYTHING that becomes popular. sXe and veganism are really big with part of this group (the other part is drugged out of it's mind). Scenesters like think of themselves as either "Punk!" or "Hipster".

2. Emo: These guys have a fashion more along the lines of Goth and Alternative. Hair is kept long, and in a muted color (Brown, Black, or or darkish brown-red). The eye covering thing is flat out. In terms of clothing, you're either likely to see a moderately loose T-shirt and black jeans with a lot of chainage. Wristbands are a must with this fashion. The other type of fashion is the really, really loose/baggy hoodie (black) on top and something (really varies) on bottom. Emo's tend to listen to popular Emo. Very few of them are sXe, but some are. Most are honest about what they are and declare themselves Emo (making them much more tolerable than scenesters).

The stigma of the "gay" music movement has attatched itself to both groups, gaining part of the social identity which causes many people to despise Emos. Both scenesters and Emos are labeled with this. The "cutters" tend to actually be few and far in-between amongst Emos (and I can't attest to Scenesters, but I'd assume the same). Both groups tend to transcend traditional barriers of class, intellect, and race (beleive it or not) and attract the "romantics" (both along the lines of Emily Dickenson and Edgar Allen Poe) of their era.

How do I know? I go to a suburban High School. My choices are hanging out with the shit-headed preps, the shit-headed thugs, the stoners, the scensters, and the Emos. Of all those groups, the Emos are most accepting and tollerant of a punker/geek and the least shit-headed. I've discovered that many have false labels put on them by other groups, and that they have their own brand of social hypocrisy (all groups have this).

As far as I know, they dress like goths, which wear all black. But instead of doing drugs and feeling sorry for themselves, they cut themselves and feel sorry for themselves.

Emo, emotionaly charged rock.

Shit man it's easy it's just the 00's version of teenage angst music and fashion. In my day it was grunge, now it's emo. Just forget about it, it'all all change when the next influx of teenagers decide emo is old, and call it summit else. The point though is it's just a teenage thing, leave the poor fuckers alone, it's hard enough being that age, I wouldn't like to do it again, shit all them hormones, and the fuckin' spots, and sweaty pits,, the whole arkwardness with the girls, and the over drinking, trying to show off, to get the girls.

Nooooo bugger that for a laugh, let the poor bastards be miserble, let them cut at their arms and listen to music that reflects their mood, and dress in fashion that does the same, after all they will grow out of it you know.

and attract the "romantics" (both along the lines of Emily Dickenson and Edgar Allen Poe) of their era.


Which explains, at least in part the success of the Libertines and all their offshoots...

(OK so Dirty Pretty Things aren't bad but anything Pete Docherty puts his name to has gone horribly wrong)/

They are just this decade's version of whatever is considered alternative, like the whole skate-ideal was a few years ago.

I'm not saying skaters are like that, but the image was considered alternative about four years ago, and I must admit I went with that trend as well. I've sort of gone out of it, although I do prefer the baggy jeans with many pockets (easier to hide things in) and the skate shoes after wearing that sort of thing for so long.

I imagine the main-stream sort of emo will be replaced by something else in the near future, something else which is branding itself as alternative to the mainstream whilst creating that whole sort of thing inside of itself, becoming a sort of dark mirror to the rest of society as these things almost always do.

I'd never heard of them before I came on this forum, I think it's an American thing.

Nah, we have them in the UK too. They argue with chavs a lot, but then so do greebos.

They also 'attempt' (poorly) to slit their wrists and then show it to their friends and complain about how shitty their life is. Often listen to Evanescence and Within Temptation and that sort of thing.

Nah, we have them in the UK too. They argue with chavs a lot, but then so do greebos.


Naaaa I think it's the other way around, I think chavs argue with everbody!

I studied Politics.
Aha! That explains why you're all wooly and don't understand real stuff like maths! ;)

Wait, so these kids are upper-middle class, American, and think that they are the most miserable people in the WORLD?! Have they ever been to a 3rd-world country, where people are lucky to get 2 or 3 meals a day?! These people should be enlightened to the rest of the world and realize that THEY are the ones that are well off!

They're not necessairly all American, as I think many have stated above.

But other than that, I think you've successfully hit the nail well and truly upon the head.

Straight Edge? What planet do you live on?:rolleyes:

All the emo kids I know drink and smoke.

And most of the ones I know don't. Your point? :rolleyes:

Cheer up, Emo kid!

:)

Emos are, to put it bluntly, target practice for newly raised Sonderlingtruppen divisions on their way to fight for the Nerd Reich on the Chavian fornt.

What?

What the hell is a "Sonderlingtruppen"?

What?

What the hell is a "Sonderlingtruppen"?

It's a "separate long troop", I believe. It's also Blödsinn.

Owkey.

Please explain more for the uninitated.

It's the nearest German approximation to "Nerd Troopers", correct me If I'm wrong. Look up "chav" on wikipedia.

It's the nearest German approximation to "Nerd Troopers", correct me If I'm wrong. Look up "chav" on wikipedia.

But for fun, look up chav on uncyclopedia.

wait... i honestly think all the people have goths and emos confused.... honestly.... and it doesn't mean that you are a rich white kid, and if they are, then they are either
a) trying to blend into something
or
b)you have alot of stuff, but your parents just love to yell and beat you.
but seriously, I consider emos and goths to be 2 seperate things, so dont get them confused... and I dont care how much "You only defend emos cuz u are one!!1111" flak I get, so what

Emos :D
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/emo-49940.jpg

Wait, so these kids are upper-middle class, American, and think that they are the most miserable people in the WORLD?! Have they ever been to a 3rd-world country, where people are lucky to get 2 or 3 meals a day?! These people should be enlightened to the rest of the world and realize that THEY are the ones that are well off!

Well the families in third world are often more stable, as in they dont have infighting, which is also pretty bad.... I mean, I would gladly come home with bad food if I wouldn't have to argue 24/7

There was none of that sort when I was in high school.
( Which was in another millenium. )

As far as I can tell, being an emo is being a crybaby.
( that doesn't say much, I admit. I consider anyone who is unable to hold the tears back while undergoing dental surgery as a soft-as-shite-tosser.)

But I'm sure that there is:
A] more to it.
B] the fact that first impressions ( aka stereotypes ) can be deceptive.

Anyone wants to enlighten me?

Not familiar with the phenomena... Don't think we have those over here. Sounds annoying though.

And most of the ones I know don't. Your point? :rolleyes:

Nothing really. I simply point out that British ones tend to be less straight edge then, well a scouring brush.

Emos :D

If someone put in all the effort required to make that, surely they could have spelled "cereal" correctly.

search emo on wiki if you realy need to find out what an emo is


pick the slang topic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

search emo on wiki if you realy need to find out what an emo is


pick the slang topic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

*sigh* once again, slang is derived from POPULAR CULTURE, which is what the media feeds us with its massively riduculous search for a purpose, so therefore, we are mostly getting a stereotype, and not the real deal.... sorta like a deal where you get oregano.... oops straying off topic

search emo on wiki if you realy need to find out what an emo is


pick the slang topic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29
You're definately the first to suggest we go to the wiki.

Slang doesn't necessairly have to come from popular culture - it just comes up from shortened words for things, or new names for things from local dialects and the like.

Well, as far as I can tell and I'm sure this will get shouted down shortly, an Emo is sort of a pale imitation of a goth, with elements of wanna-be punks.
dont forget cutting themselves

Apparently, emo developed from hardcore.

let's clear things up.

Panic! At The Disco- is not emo.

Fall Out Boy- is not emo.

seriously.

Heh, I've not listened to either.

Emo is really just an abbreviation of the word "Emotional," Emo people simply wear their heart on their sleeve. Originally it was a unique thing, but when the media got a hold of it, fashion trends were started. Girl pants, long bangs that cover the face, tight black shirts, etc.


Really, almost anyone who isn't afraid to cry in public, let their anger be known, and such is emo. Currently emo is associated with sadness, and many emo people cut themselves (Generally the wrong way, as to not die).

Actually, I have to disagree, Fall Out Boy is emo. Barely, but they are. Panic! however is not, as you stated.

Nah, we have them in the UK too. They argue with chavs a lot, but then so do greebos.

They also 'attempt' (poorly) to slit their wrists and then show it to their friends and complain about how shitty their life is. Often listen to Evanescence and Within Temptation and that sort of thing.

I think you're confused. Of the people who seem to fit this "emo" stereotype that I've come into contact with, love of Within Temptation is very low. I happen to be a huge WT fan.

I have to say, there is absolutely nothing new about this emo thing, teenagers have been selfharming and listening to emotionally charged rock for decades.

When I was a teeneger there was a lot of negativity towards me and my friends, I got called "mosher" as if it was an insult and got looked down upon by older members of the alternative scene who assumed we were just going through a phase, rather than being true "lifestylers".

Teenagers will always follow trends, either mainstream or alternative. Leave 'em be.

"EMO" just means emotional...and its already starting to die out...it bassically just means you cant control yourself. and your in self pitty. and you suck.

Teenagers will always follow trends, either mainstream or alternative. Leave 'em be.

Not insulting you or anything, i just like how you start by dismissing the stereotype, then throwing in another one at the end.

In regards to the thread in general;
I'm 17, i have never really bothered with styles. Most of my clothes are black or dark colours, I've let a friend of mine dye my hair various colours (black/blue, red, purple) and i don't care much about how it looks. I have on occasion been called emo, i have on occasion been called goth, Grungie, Greebo and a few others. As far as my taste in music, that all depends on my mood and to put it simply i listen to what i like, i don't bother to find out if its 'emo' or whatever it would be labelled as.

As to the chav thing, i manage to remain out of there way, somehow a large percentage of the ones where i live recognise me, so often some random person will say hi to me and i will have no clue whatsoever who they are, but it's better than getting beaten up by them. :p

Some people feel a need to stereotype, i just ignore it personally.

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You sound cool, I'm 15, also like muted colours-dark red, green, black. I like dying my hair too, but my schools strict dress code stops cool colourings before the school week. I have called a nerd, goth, emo, punk. I listen to any kind of music I like regardless of styles. My school is mostly populated by preps. what is Greebo by the way?

Sorry if this has been done but http://hopeisemo.com.

You sound cool, I'm 15, also like muted colours-dark red, green, black. I like dying my hair too, but my schools strict dress code stops cool colourings before the school week. I have called a nerd, goth, emo, punk. I listen to any kind of music I like regardless of styles. My school is mostly populated by preps. what is Greebo by the way?


from sydney! woot
where do you peeps hang out?
i need to know, im sick of the preps

Me. I am one.

from sydney! woot
where do you peeps hang out?
i need to know, im sick of the preps
I swear to God, I haven't heard the term preps since middle school...

Emos are pre-adult Leftists.

Emos are pre-adult Leftists.
I'm right-wing.

Me. I am one.

*Points and laughs at Europa Maxima* Stupid emo kids...:rolleyes:

Look at me mock the emo, I'm a cool kid now! Can I join your gang please and pick on more people because they are different? It's so much fun.

lol am I the only one who can't tell the difference between...

Alternative, Greebo, Emo, Skaters, punks....etc.
They always struck me as silly... but less annoying than Chavs.

Though if they really wanted to be alternative and individual they would stop choosing such specific clothes and just wear what was practical and comfy

lol am I the only one who can't tell the difference between...

Alternative, Greebo, Emo, Skaters, punks....etc.
They always struck me as silly... but less annoying than Chavs.

Though if they really wanted to be alternative and individual they would stop choosing such specific clothes and just wear what was practical and comfy

There are a number of so-called "Plainclothes" punks (myself included) who actively reject street-punk/hardcore, fashion (which is massively diff from pop-punk fashion) because of how dogmatic it has become. You'll find that a number of bands that came out of the late 80's hardcore scene have done so. Do keep in mind that Punk fashion is both a means of scaring away people they don't want to deal with (Sheople is the common term) and of communicating with one another.

Just to clear things up.

The greasy hair kid with the baseball cap, the plaid/patterned button-up shirt (unbuttoned) and the worn jeans? The one who looks stoned out of his mind? That's alternative fashion. Look to Cobain as an archetype.

Greebo is something I've never heard of before.

I described Emos and Scensters (do those exist in Britain, anyone?) earlier.

Skaters tend to look like alternative types, but are likelier to have short hair and T-shirts.

Punkers wear dark colors, a lot of leather jackets, studded clothing, boots, Mohawks, and anti-fashion clothing.

Greebo is something I've never heard of before.

I described Emos and Scensters (do those exist in Britain, anyone?) earlier.


In response to the person earlier who asked what a Greebo was in response to my post. I can honestly say i have no idea, i've been called it and never bothered to find out what, emo and goth are both relatively stereotypical now and were relatively obvious.

As far as i have seen, there are a few examples of both of what you have described as Emos and Scensters, but mostly there is a blend of the two, They have kept the hair over the eye thing for the most part and they all tend to hang out together declaring themselves as emo. I haven't seen many wearing 'girl-pants' as you put it, but i haven't exactly been keeping my eyes out. They all seem to have a fasination with clothes with horizontal stripes, usually black and white or red and white, though many other combinations appear from time to time. Hoodies are a general thing, everyone wears them, Chavs, Emo's, Skaters, etc, they just tend to come in different colours.

I personally hate stripes and never wear them :p

I'm technically at college, but it's a 6th form course at the school i used to go to anyway. (Just to clarify, thats a different college to the american use of the word college) So we just have to look decent, we don't have a uniform as such and the younger years are allowed to dye their hair as well.
From what i have seen of the younger years, Chavs and Emo's are becoming a lot more common, I would go so far as to say that my year is school were probably the last decent or 'normal' year. It just seems to be getting worse. I thought the Chavs in my year were bad, but these chavs are worse, emo's wern't really that common in my year, there are a lot more in the younger years.

Ty Avarhierrim.

Edit: That 'Hope is emo' thing is weird, ok, words do have power, i have that stated in my siggy, and admittedly the language is being destroyed by the younger generations and is more apreciated by people learning it in foreign countries (and they wonder why they get better jobs than us sometimes), society may or may not be declining, but jeez, that was just weird.

I just want to make a couple points to differentiate between two very different forms of emo.

1. Scene: This is the bunch of losers who wear girl-pants, have their hair over their eye (black, preferably), and wear really shitty sweaters. Most of them like "underground" music that evolves in the local "Scene", but quickly reject ANYTHING that becomes popular. sXe and veganism are really big with part of this group (the other part is drugged out of it's mind). Scenesters like think of themselves as either "Punk!" or "Hipster".

2. Emo: These guys have a fashion more along the lines of Goth and Alternative. Hair is kept long, and in a muted color (Brown, Black, or or darkish brown-red). The eye covering thing is flat out. In terms of clothing, you're either likely to see a moderately loose T-shirt and black jeans with a lot of chainage. Wristbands are a must with this fashion. The other type of fashion is the really, really loose/baggy hoodie (black) on top and something (really varies) on bottom. Emo's tend to listen to popular Emo. Very few of them are sXe, but some are. Most are honest about what they are and declare themselves Emo (making them much more tolerable than scenesters).

The stigma of the "gay" music movement has attatched itself to both groups, gaining part of the social identity which causes many people to despise Emos. Both scenesters and Emos are labeled with this. The "cutters" tend to actually be few and far in-between amongst Emos (and I can't attest to Scenesters, but I'd assume the same). Both groups tend to transcend traditional barriers of class, intellect, and race (beleive it or not) and attract the "romantics" (both along the lines of Emily Dickenson and Edgar Allen Poe) of their era.

How do I know? I go to a suburban High School. My choices are hanging out with the shit-headed preps, the shit-headed thugs, the stoners, the scensters, and the Emos. Of all those groups, the Emos are most accepting and tollerant of a punker/geek and the least shit-headed. I've discovered that many have false labels put on them by other groups, and that they have their own brand of social hypocrisy (all groups have this).

I was lucky, apparently. I had a whole group to myself, and we proudly proclaimed ourselves as gamers.

I described Emos and Scensters (do those exist in Britain, anyone?) earlier.

I've yet to see a Scenester in Britain. Emos though? Definitely. I am one.

Gaymers

Gaymers

Oh lawl.