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Racist?!

Wanting to rid the world of IslamoFascist terrorism is racist? Wanting to help the vast majority of Arabs rid themselves of an evil cult bent on worldwide chaos and genocide is racist? Wanting to keep the world from entering a new dark age of potential nuclear warfare with them is racist?

We are winning, jackball....Or did'nt you notice all the new Hospitals, Schools, and other essential infrastructure being built in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Oh, and you don't think that there would be even more suffering in the world if we let Iran waltz all over the middleeast, rattling their nuclear dildo at any nation that dares oppose them? You also don't think mass worldwide starvation and illness caused by an oil-cutoff by them would'nt make many, many more people suffer? If you really believe that, you are 100% certifiably INSANE.

What atrocities? What the living bloody hell are you blathering about, you insane Commie bastard?

Oh, puh-leeze....If anyone is a racist, its' you...I only want to help the arabs...You only want to do one thing...Hate Jews

You're battier then seven shades of bat-guano.

What? You called me a nazi, basically...So, you know what? Fuck sensible conversation.

Suck my hairy, Arab-lovin' cock, you goddamn little jizzguzzler...Suck it long, hard, and at length.

Err...

The last war Iran has been in... at least this century, if not longer, is the iraq-iran war. That was 18-26 years ago, and was a very personal war. Besides, Iran had one of the most capable militaries in the world at that point, armed with american F-14's, british MBT's with chobham, german APC's, etc.

Iran hasn't gotten in a war since then, nor for a long time before. I'd be more worried about syria/israel/egypt/iraq/lebanon/india/pakistan/china/russia... the list goes on.

North korea is a bit of a special case. Yes, only the korean war, but its blatantly obvious that north korea has been preparing for centuries for a war with south korea. Iran... It talks a lot, but hasn't been aggressive in quite some time. They are mostly worried about american hegemony.

Btw, nice job freaking out someone called you a nazi, then calling them a commie in the same post.

Iran... It talks a lot, but hasn't been aggressive in quite some time. They are mostly worried about american hegemony.
Oh, please. If they knew America did'nt have the will to fight them, they'd be all over the middle-east like white on rice as soon as they got their hands on the Ultimate Weapon. You think America is the only nation with ambitions in the area? You gotta be kiddin'...

Btw, nice job freaking out someone called you a nazi, then calling them a commie in the same post.
I get "freaked out" when a racist calls me a racist...Excuse the fuck outta me.

-snip-


Wow.....


Thats a bit extreme, isn't it?

Why can't we all just ... get along?

Henry Kissinger said the only way to end war was to make it uneconomical. That happened more than a few years back. Vietnam was supposed to be the seal on that whole deal. The cost in lives votes and money wasn't worth it. Rescuing Kuwait probably made a few bucks but was clearly an exception as it's one of the richest oil countrys in the world.

Iraq clearly shows the futility of war in the modern world. It's political suicide. Tony Blair is now a liability to the Labour Party, Berlusconi got his ass fired, the Spanish sacked that moustache wearing clown. War is a too expensive luxury now, not a breakeven or profitable venture like in the good old days. Ahh, to go a viking.

Wow.....


Thats a bit extreme, isn't it?
You're right, I should'nt have let him make me snap...That was weak on my part. And it makes him look like the good guy to many on here.

S*hit...

Racist?!

Wanting to rid the world of IslamoFascist terrorism is racist? Wanting to help the vast majority of Arabs rid themselves of an evil cult bent on worldwide chaos and genocide is racist? Wanting to keep the world from entering a new dark age of potential nuclear warfare with them is racist?

We are winning, jackball....Or did'nt you notice all the new Hospitals, Schools, and other essential infrastructure being built in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Oh, and you don't think that there would be even more suffering in the world if we let Iran waltz all over the middleeast, rattling their nuclear dildo at any nation that dares oppose them? You also don't think mass worldwide starvation and illness caused by an oil-cutoff by them would'nt make many, many more people suffer? If you really believe that, you are 100% certifiably INSANE.

What atrocities? What the living bloody hell are you blathering about, you insane Commie bastard?

Oh, puh-leeze....If anyone is a racist, its' you...I only want to help the arabs...You only want to do one thing...Hate Jews

You're battier then seven shades of bat-guano.

What? You called me a nazi, basically...So, you know what? Fuck sensible conversation.

Suck my hairy, Arab-lovin' cock, you goddamn little jizzguzzler...Suck it long, hard, and at length.
And for that, Minkonio, you receive a 3 Day forum ban. Sensible conversation is the goal here, dropping it because you feel insulted is unacceptable. And subsequently flaming is not tolerated. When you come back please remember that. Think before you post.

So you're a bit of a simp then. Your look out not mine. I presume you mean Estrus or whatever that brave american soldier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre) is calling himself when you say E. You'll find the clown attcked me.


And you sir are a Warwickshire shithouse. (See? Throwing insults does nothing for your position).

My opinion on E is not material -- I've seen him post on here for YEARS. You'd been on one day. Sadly, on the forums, that usually equals muppetry.

PS- Was E actually AT My Lai, or are you painting a single bad event to posit that all US servicemen are evil? Because if so, I strongly advise to look to your own ken's evil before throwing stones.

Oh, please. If they knew America did'nt have the will to fight them, they'd be all over the middle-east like white on rice as soon as they got their hands on the Ultimate Weapon. You think America is the only nation with ambitions in the area? You gotta be kiddin'...

Again, Iran has hardly been aggessive in its history, even after the shah got overthrown. What is your reasoning that they would be aggressive?

(ambitions and going to war are vastly dfferent things).

And you sir are a Warwickshire shithouse. (See? Throwing insults does nothing for your position).

Well it does nothing for your position. Try insults which are more generally understood.

You'd been on one day. Sadly, on the forums, that usually equals muppetry.

Sadly you've made a mistake. That's your look out. I think you have enough posts, maybe you should retire.

Was E actually AT My Lai, or are you painting a single bad event to posit that all US servicemen are evil? Because if so, I strongly advise to look to your own ken's evil before throwing stones.

I understand that English isn't your first language, what's the problem with ken and his buddies? Who is ken? Do you ken what I mean, kensucker. Throwing stones? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, or is it he who is without sin cast the first stone.

What a puzzle.

Racist?!


Oh, puh-leeze....If anyone is a racist, its' you...I only want to help the arabs...You only want to do one thing...Hate Jews

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While the rhetorical "You don't support Bin Laden do you?" seems to have dropped in popularity the "You hate Jews" claim seems to be still in fashion - rather regretabbly.

While the rhetorical "You don't support Bin Laden do you?" seems to have dropped in popularity the "You hate Jews" claim seems to be still in fashion - rather regretabbly.

So you're some kind of Jew lover, just misunderstood?

Well it does nothing for your position. Try insults which are more generally understood.

How about no insults at all? That's the point I was making.

Sadly you've made a mistake. That's your look out. I think you have enough posts, maybe you should retire.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Time will tell. I understand that English isn't your first language, what's the problem with ken and his buddies? Who is ken? Do you ken what I mean,
I've already retired. I came back because this is still something I can do while running data loads for work and is mildly entertaining.

kensucker. Throwing stones? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, or is it he who is without sin cast the first stone.

What a puzzle.

Kin. Folks do make typos. Sheesh.

Exactly. And since the Irish killed Lord Mountbatten for no reason, they're all violent scum. Needless to say, that's not fair, and you putting My Lai on E (assuming he is was not there), is also unfair.

Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Battenberg or Dicky as he was known was a nasty piece of work. He favoured the search and destroy death squad approach. Pity he didn't favour the old check my boat for explosives approach. That's the problem with occupation and insurgency situations, they get very vicious.

What's green and travels at 200MPH one foot above water?
Mountbattens welly.

That E chap started ranting and frothing at a post I made and I just pointed out that the US lost in Vietnam. Also that all the people they said they'd protect and look after were deserted to be potentially slaughtered. Also the good ol US troops have a long history of war crimes without punishment like My Lai. Even without war they have a nasty habit of raping and killing locals around their bases. Old E head though seems to ignore facts and prefer whatever passes for reality in his head. Fair play, he can do what he likes, just shouldn't try to silence me.

My aren't we self important and bitter, no Prep H at drug store? Did you never have a freind? is that why anybody who defenses another is sycophant?



I don't care what his response can be predicted to be, I don't care that you predict it. You're a sycophant who knows his job, likes the taste.


You wouldn't know the right thing if it slapped the shit out of you. I'm neither young nor friends with your type.


I knew you were a narc, there's the smell of it off you. I think you'll find it's Summer comes before the Fall, you see Fall means Autumn in American.

Then you troll on about private forum, rules being there for a reason, you dare not question etc. Well hey, I'm a member of this private forum now and I find you an irritant. Find a rule about that and throw yourself out of here, there's a good chap.

As to the insurgancy failing, only if you watch Fox or Sky. Americans are dying for Haliburton profits. The entire Arab and Muslim world is being forced to mobilize against an imminent threat. How is that going to workout better for America?

PS Oh look markreich has something to say. That kind of logic allows Mark to feel special. Everyone look at Mark and tell him how good he is. Good boy Mark.

Yes Dresden,Tokyo,Hiroshima,Nagasaki........

You win a war by removing the enemy's will to fight.


That's why we won WW2? The willingness to be more callously inhuman than the Nazis? My grampa would spank your ass for saying that kind of crap!

i think nobody here can pretend to pawn anybody....
out of play.you still live in the middle ages

My aren't we self important and bitter, no Prep H at drug store? Did you never have a freind? is that why anybody who defenses another is sycophant?

They travel in packs, unable to survive as individuals. Unable to spell too it seems.

Did this thread just get mobbed by Americans or 5 year olds?

Work is a PRIVALEDGE in prison.

That's called slavery, you see, chum. The Romans used to sentence people to slavery too, you know.

Ah, Guantanamo Bay - I'm sorry, that topic of discussion is off-limits, any more references to this vital and totally legal and in no way nasty place will result in a Predator strike against your IP address.

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I don't know if I've ever heard a "leftist" say they want the insurgency to win.
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"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy'. They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow — and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?" -Micheal Moore. :p

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy'. They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow — and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?" -Micheal Moore. :p

If you choose to accept Michael Moore as The Official Voice of The Left, you can't bitch when The Left declares Ann Couler The Official Voice of The Right. And she's said a lot more sociopathic things than Moore ever did.

"Invade their countries, Kill their leaders, and convert them all to Christianity" - Ann Coulter on Afghanistan

Oh, and Moore never called 9-11 widows profiteering attention whores either.

[QUOTE=TeHe]

If you choose to accept Michael Moore as The Official Voice of The Left, you can't bitch when The Left declares Ann Couler The Official Voice of The Right. And she's said a lot more sociopathic things than Moore ever did.

"Invade their countries, Kill their leaders, and convert them all to Christianity" - Ann Coulter on Afghanistan

Oh, and Moore never called 9-11 widows profiteering attention whores either.

I believe the poster was asked to provide an example of "anyone on the left" - not the "official voice of the left".

As an example of "anyone on the left", Michael Moore is quite good.

[QUOTE=Gauthier]

I believe the poster was asked to provide an example of "anyone on the left" - not the "official voice of the left".

As an example of "anyone on the left", Michael Moore is quite good.

Nope.

I don't know if I've ever heard a "leftist" say they want the insurgency to win.


"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy'. They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow — and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?" -Micheal Moore. :p
Look at the quote again, and tell me where Moore says he wants the Iraqis to win. He says they will, and I agree with him--they probably will because they have nothing to lose and you can't defeat an enemy with nothing to lose, you can only kill him. But there's a hell of a gap between saying something will happen and saying you want it to happen. Moore is clearly on the predictive side of that gap.

Look at the quote again, and tell me where Moore says he wants the Iraqis to win. He says they will, and I agree with him--they probably will because they have nothing to lose and you can't defeat an enemy with nothing to lose, you can only kill him. But there's a hell of a gap between saying something will happen and saying you want it to happen. Moore is clearly on the predictive side of that gap.

In the first half he states that they're not "the enemy," and also goes on to compare them to the American minutemen of the Revolutionary war. He isn't outright saying it, but he's damn well inferring it.

In the first half he states that they're not "the enemy," and also goes on to compare them to the American minutemen of the Revolutionary war. He isn't outright saying it, but he's damn well inferring it.
He's only inferring it if you want to read that into it. His statement is clear and unambiguous. Find another quote--this one is toast and you know it.

you are amazing,thousand people ARE DIYING and you have an armchair conversation,,,
PFFFFFFF!!!!
Wake up .You are beeing fucked:fluffle:

you are amazing,thousand people ARE DIYING and you have an armchair conversation,,,
PFFFFFFF!!!!
Wake up .You are beeing fucked:fluffle:
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He's only inferring it if you want to read that into it. His statement is clear and unambiguous. Find another quote--this one is toast and you know it.

Not true at all. He specifically used "minutemen," which is a positive connotation. Why not compare them to other guerrilla factions that the United States have fought, such as the Viet Cong?

Not true at all. He specifically used "minutemen," which is a positive connotation. Why not compare them to other guerrilla factions that the United States have fought, such as the Viet Cong?
That's irrelevant. The challenge was to find a person on the left who said that he or she wanted the insurgents to win. Moore, much as you may think he believes that, did not say it. Therefore, you have not completed the challenge. Fuck, is it that hard to understand English? Go to Democratic Underground--you'll probably find people saying what you need thick on the ground.

Not true at all. He specifically used "minutemen," which is a positive connotation. Why not compare them to other guerrilla factions that the United States have fought, such as the Viet Cong?
That's not necessarily a positive connotation these days. And even before the advent of popular vigilantism, 'minutemen' has a positive connotation only for Americans. My ancestors fought those 'minutemen', and they didn't have much in the way of 'positive' thoughts about them.

Think outside your box.

That's not necessarily a positive connotation these days. And even before the advent of popular vigilantism, 'minutemen' has a positive connotation only for Americans. My ancestors fought those 'minutemen', and they didn't have much in the way of 'positive' thoughts about them.

Think outside your box.
And I'm not even going to get into the opinion of many about those slackjawed mouthbreathers down on the Arizona border calling themselves Minutemen. And of course, sexually speaking, it's quite the insult. It's not quite "two-pump chump" but it's not far off.

I was quoting you kiddo, "You where not there". BTW I don't need to have been in Vietnam to understand it, comes with having an IQ a burden you don't have to shoulder.

Imagine being proud of invading a country without cause and killing civilians. So much so that you pretend to have been in the army and defend a cowards war fought by idiots against farmers. Which the us still lost. Boys I can tell you we had a right good laugh at that one.

Forrest Lee Horn, Sr. ( B.S.B.A.M.A. )
CPT, INF, USA ( Retired/Disabled ) Vietnam, SEP67-SEP69

Well your made up credentials impress me I can tell you. Probably disabled when one of your cooking pots boiled over onto your foot.

In america there is no I in team and there is no u in honour.

why are you personally attacking the man(and i know him and he was there...you werent!)
and screw off you twit for badmouthing thousands of men("cowards")that gave they lives and limbs to in their minds,fight the spread of communism and free the people of the south from what eventually befell them cause of all the no nothing handwringers and socialists...that influenced the congress to cut and run.

we could have bombed n.v into dust and have been done with it,with out risking many lives of our own.
but we fight fair,but since you know it all...how did your commie friends treat their southern brothers?
you were their..no?
or you read it in some left leaning book or some liberal proffessor force fed it to you..lol

your well informed i see.

it wasn't just "evil americans" beating up on soulfull farmers as you seem to like to paint it,but thats right,you were there,i keep forgetting.

you got sour grapes cause communism collapsed and your grabbing your little straw,incorrectly like we got our ass handed to us in nam,so gleefull over the deaths of 55,000.00 men that never hurt you,and were in the most part trying to help the world.
let alone the hundreds of thousands of innocents killed in the north cause the benevolent communists(ussr) used them as pawns in a global war.

but yea,it was the u.s.,and the u.s only!

read another book you dweeb,this time,one that shows both sides!

man,people like you amaze me with your ability to only see your "idealised'version of events...so it fits into your political bias.

and note i never said we were right or wrong....i'll leave that to know it all's like you.

Sack your teachers. Stalingrad and the entire North African campaign was about oil. Churchill was terrified of the U-boats because they were targetting freighters coming from the mediterranean carrying.....? And in WW1, where were the first British regiments deployed? That's right. Basra.

Virtually 80-90% of the wars in the previous one and a half hundred years have been over energy supplies, or access thereof. Not pointing the finger at any countries in particular, everyones at it for good reasons.


excellant point...but i'm sure it will zoom over nib?noobie's head...seeing as he is wearing blinders and will defend his position,no matter how incredulous i might find it,or his lack of reason or facts,or knowledge even..only knee jerk dogma forcefed to him is what he appears to cling too.

"No, I've been at work all day, creating high-end products for tasteless Americans with too much money and too little sense."


guees you have no problem taking our blood money..eh

what's that make you?

if your so sure and principled...you should not take our money,and stick to your ideals.

oh,what product do you make,i'll be sure to not buy it.
wouldnt want to stain your hands with my dirty money,seeing as i am a filthy rich bloated and greedy warmonger..lol

yea,i know we americans have no taste..nothing like sweeping generalzations,and i thought americans were renowned for stereotyping people?
guess we are not alone?

Are you coming to some sort of point with this or do you just plan to ramble on like an inebriate all evening?

Are you coming to some sort of point with this or do you just plan to ramble on like an inebriate all evening?


lol,touche'
i was responding to various posts as i read down,but thanks for noticing,and appreciate the insult.

cheers!

screw off you twit

but we fight fair,but since you know it all...how did your commie friends treat their southern brothers?
you were their..no?
or you read it in some left leaning book or some liberal proffessor force fed it to you..lol

you got sour grapes cause communism collapsed and your grabbing your little straw,incorrectly like we got our ass handed to us in nam,so gleefull over the deaths of 55,000.00 men that never hurt you,and were in the most part trying to help the world.

let alone the hundreds of thousands of innocents killed in the north cause the benevolent communists(ussr) used them as pawns in a global war.

but yea,it was the u.s.,and the u.s only!

dweeb

man,people like you amaze me with your ability to only see your "idealised'version of events...so it fits into your political bias.

and note i never said we were right or wrong....i'll leave that to know it all's like you.

Hahahahahahaha you are funny. You weren't there so you don't know according to your own logic you shouldn't have typed a word of that post.

"but we fight fair,but since you know it all...how did your commie friends treat their southern brothers?"
Agent Orange is fair, napalm is fair, white phosphorus and high ex is fair. Of course then in 1979 Vietnam was invaded by Chinese commies. That was after Vietnam took care of the Cambodians but you didn't know any of that did you.

"some liberal proffessor force fed it to you"
Doesn't sound very liberal. I suppose if you've never set foot in a university you wouldn't really know much about it. You weren't there man you don't know.

"you got sour grapes cause communism collapsed"
Yeah at last. Man those commies and their sour grape embargo, that was terrible. Fortunately the shops are full of sour grapes again. Oh wait that was South Africa.

"man,people like you amaze me with your ability to only see your "idealised'version of events...so it fits into your political bias."

People like you amaze me, with your ability to only see your idealised version of events.

"and note i never said we were right or wrong....i'll leave that to know it all's like you."
You were wrong, dead wrong.

Honestly you think that the US as represented by its massive military (5% of the world population spending 50% of the worlds military budget) is a force for good and that every single one of those military types is a good guy with a halo. Of course the politicians who give the orders are fine human beings too and all they want to do is help the poor and downtrodden folks of the world.

That must be why you are so amazed at events in Iraq. Don't the insurgents know the US is there to help them? Can't the families of the dead just walk it off and get back in the game of rebuilding the new democratic, sorry republican Iraq.