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President Bush makes major environmental decision

Carnivorous Lickers
15-06-2006, 20:34
With this decision to create the largest protected marine area, President Bush creates the United States' 75 National Monument-


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13300363/?GT1=8211
PsychoticDan
15-06-2006, 20:36
I still think he's a boob.
Yootopia
15-06-2006, 20:36
With this decision to create the largest protected marine area, President Bush creates the United States' 75 National Monument-


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13300363/?GT1=8211
Cripes!

No oil in it, then?
Kazus
15-06-2006, 20:37
Politics!
Cluichstan
15-06-2006, 20:38
"I HATE BUSH" thread beginning...now! :rolleyes:
Yootopia
15-06-2006, 20:42
"I HATE BUSH" thread beginning...now! :rolleyes:
Bush is a twat.

That got the ball rolling, eh?
Carnivorous Lickers
15-06-2006, 20:58
"I HATE BUSH" thread beginning...now! :rolleyes:


Thats to be expected from sadly predictable whiners. They hate Bush because he does what he does and does'nt give a flying fuck what they think.

No matter-it cant take away from the greatness of this new sanctuary.
Nagapura
15-06-2006, 21:07
Geez, even when he does something great, they still complain. Just goes to prove they have a predetermined opinion that they will stick to regardless of any evidence to the contrary that may be presented to them.
Yootopia
15-06-2006, 21:09
Thats to be expected from sadly predictable whiners. They hate Bush because he does what he does and does'nt give a flying fuck what they think.

No matter-it cant take away from the greatness of this new sanctuary.
Urmm it's not as nice as the Yorkshire Dales. Yes.
DiStefano-Schultz
15-06-2006, 21:15
Thats to be expected from sadly predictable whiners. They hate Bush because he does what he does and does'nt give a flying fuck what they think.

No matter-it cant take away from the greatness of this new sanctuary.


Yes this is a huge step in the right direction, but sadly it is election issue politics. Really this is so the republicans can say 'lookie what we did, keep us in office!'

So really is is an awesome thing yes, but Bush is still an idiot and it's election politics.
Glass Beads
15-06-2006, 21:20
i would say i'm glad he's not in charge of england, but look at who we got...
Rock My Monkey
15-06-2006, 21:21
Yes this is a huge step in the right direction, but sadly it is election issue politics. Really this is so the republicans can say 'lookie what we did, keep us in office!'

So really is is an awesome thing yes, but Bush is still an idiot and it's election politics.

Exactly. It's like if I pet a cat on the way to killing a bunch of school children will people please talk about when I pet the cat instead of all the dead kids?
Pepe Dominguez
15-06-2006, 21:21
Urmm it's not as nice as the Yorkshire Dales. Yes.

It's a tropical preserve in Hawaii.. I don't think there can be a comparison.

Anyhow, I think it's good to see an addition to our national parks. Bush has had a number of recent, mostly unreported victories (judicial appointments, etc.), that have gone under the radar. Although I wouldn't call the creation of the park a victory or loss, rather than simply the right thing to do.. more reason to visit Hawaii if portions are open to the public.
Grindylow
15-06-2006, 21:21
Geez, even when he does something great, they still complain. Just goes to prove they have a predetermined opinion that they will stick to regardless of any evidence to the contrary that may be presented to them.

Eh, I think he's done enough that we're justified in being suspicious. ;) I think this is a great thing, but I can't help wondering "What's the angle?"
The Black Forrest
15-06-2006, 21:25
Meh!

Probably nothing there for his supporters to profit off so yes he signed it.

Now would he have signed it if there was a hint of oil being around?

I really doubt it.
Glass Beads
15-06-2006, 21:26
yeh but is this hawaiian national park jus a ploy to draw attention away from the mining they got planned for that national park in alaska?
Bitchkitten
15-06-2006, 21:26
The only time that twit cares what the American people thinks is when he needs a few more votes. The rest of the time he says stuff like "I'm the president, I don't have to explain things, people have to explain to me." Sort of paraphrasing a bit.
The Black Forrest
15-06-2006, 21:26
Geez, even when he does something great, they still complain. Just goes to prove they have a predetermined opinion that they will stick to regardless of any evidence to the contrary that may be presented to them.

One good act does not offset all the others.
Sumamba Buwhan
15-06-2006, 21:31
Wow, I'm impressed. This is probably the third kudos I've given to the Bush administration. Even if it was so that Republicans can point to something good they did for the environment. It's a rare move for Republicans to do something good for the environment so things like this should be loudly applauded in hopes that it will encourage them to follow such paths in the future.

*loudly applauds*
Carnivorous Lickers
15-06-2006, 21:31
Yes this is a huge step in the right direction, but sadly it is election issue politics. Really this is so the republicans can say 'lookie what we did, keep us in office!'

So really is is an awesome thing yes, but Bush is still an idiot and it's election politics.


He did it,though. He didnt discuss it and fawn over it-its done and its good.

Regardless of what you speculate are the reasons, it still benefits us all.
The Black Forrest
15-06-2006, 21:40
Wow, I'm impressed. This is probably the third kudos I've given to the Bush administration. Even if it was so that Republicans can point to something good they did for the environment. It's a rare move for Republicans to do something good for the environment so things like this should be loudly applauded in hopes that it will encourage them to follow such paths in the future.

*loudly applauds*

Of course they did. It's election time!

The paper had a big article who many Republican's are downplaying their party during their campaigns.

Now if there were developers after the area and he did it then I would really be impressed and would send a thank you.

Still it's not a done deal until they define what will happen with fishing and coral harvesting.

It's nice to set it aside but it doesn't mean much if you continue to harvest it.....
Ulrichland
15-06-2006, 21:42
With this decision to create the largest protected marine area, President Bush creates the United States' 75 National Monument-


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13300363/?GT1=8211

El Busho loves fish. Just like Troy McLure. ;)
Sumamba Buwhan
15-06-2006, 21:44
Of course they did. It's election time!

The paper had a big article who many Republican's are downplaying their party during their campaigns.

Now if there were developers after the area and he did it then I would really be impressed and would send a thank you.

Still it's not a done deal until they define what will happen with fishing and coral harvesting.

It's nice to set it aside but it doesn't mean much if you continue to harvest it.....


I agree that they did it for brownie points, but what I am saying is that if we all cheer when they do something pro-environment, they will do consider doing more of the things that makes them popular to keep the power. If we can't get some honest politicians in office, at least we can try to coerce our dirty dealing leaders to throw us some bones.
Nagapura
15-06-2006, 21:44
One good act does not offset all the others.

Agreed. Bush has doen plenty of things that I'm not too happy with, but unlike most people here I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge when he does something right. I think what bothers me the most are the ones who say, oh, I don't know

Eh, I think he's done enough that we're justified in being suspicious. I think this is a great thing, but I can't help wondering "What's the angle?"

Meh!

Probably nothing there for his supporters to profit off so yes he signed it.

Now would he have signed it if there was a hint of oil being around?

I really doubt it.

Yes this is a huge step in the right direction, but sadly it is election issue politics. Really this is so the republicans can say 'lookie what we did, keep us in office!'

So really is is an awesome thing yes, but Bush is still an idiot and it's election politics.

Intention is irrelevent. What matters is action. WHY he did it doesn't matter, the fact is he did it, and no one can find a reason to say it's bad that he did it! So why are you all attacking this?
Carnivorous Lickers
15-06-2006, 21:48
Intention is irrelevent. What matters is action. WHY he did it doesn't matter, the fact is he did it, and no one can find a reason to say it's bad that he did it! So why are you all attacking this?


Moronic reflex. It seems as if it cant be helped.

Its done. All the dopey and pathetic mudslinging cant take the credit away from the President on this huge issue now.
Grindylow
15-06-2006, 21:55
Intention is irrelevent. What matters is action. WHY he did it doesn't matter, the fact is he did it, and no one can find a reason to say it's bad that he did it! So why are you all attacking this?

But it's not irrelevant. If it was done in order to gain support from the public so he can go do something dastardly, well, I'd rather have the land not set aside. :eek:

Yes. It's a great environmental decision. But if he uses (and I don't put it past him that there's an intended "bribe") it to garner support for invading Iran, well, it's not worth it.

Edit: I used something ridiculous and over the top to make a point. A nature preserve might not be worth some things we could be expected to sacrifice. That's the jist.
The Black Forrest
15-06-2006, 21:55
Moronic reflex. It seems as if it cant be helped.

Its done. All the dopey and pathetic mudslinging cant take the credit away from the President on this huge issue now.

Speaking of moronic reflex.

Again. Until they declare what will happen with fishing and coral harvesting, it will only look good on paper......
WangWee
15-06-2006, 21:55
I wonder if he'll protect this place from air-pollution and the effects of global warming with his magical powers?
Ultraextreme Sanity
15-06-2006, 22:22
What did he do flush his toilet ?
Willamena
15-06-2006, 22:28
Good job, U.S.!

By the way, they sure do a lot of ego-stroking in that article.
Demented Hamsters
16-06-2006, 01:46
Eh, I think he's done enough that we're justified in being suspicious. ;) I think this is a great thing, but I can't help wondering "What's the angle?"
Probably when he signed it, GWB thought he was creating the World's Largest Marines sanctuary.
"Great", he thought, "Somewhere for old vets like Eutrusca to go hang out"
Ravenshrike
16-06-2006, 01:48
Great, just fucking great, now the dolphins have a safe place from which to plan world domination. Great going Bush! You really fucked up this time.
Neo Undelia
16-06-2006, 01:50
Regardless of what you speculate are the reasons, it still benefits us all.
Uh, how does a bunch of fish, coral and sea turtles significantly and practically affect me or any other human being? They don’t. Bush fails to impress, again.
Peechland
16-06-2006, 02:13
Uh, how does a bunch of fish, coral and sea turtles significantly and practically affect me or any other human being? They don’t. Bush fails to impress, again.


Thought you had a 3 day ban.
Neo Undelia
16-06-2006, 02:14
Thought you had a 3 day ban.
Nope Deated.:D
Sane Outcasts
16-06-2006, 02:27
So, Bush takes a step towards promoting enviromental conservation. Only took him, what, six years?
The Black Forrest
16-06-2006, 02:53
So, Bush takes a step towards promoting enviromental conservation. Only took him, what, six years?
Actually he did it once before ;)
The Stics
16-06-2006, 02:54
So, Bush takes a step towards promoting enviromental conservation. Only took him, what, six years?

Also took him 6 years and poll ratings of 30% for him to finally say that he accepts some criticism (regardless of what he thinks).
Neo Undelia
16-06-2006, 03:10
Also took him 6 years and poll ratings of 30% for him to finally say that he accepts some criticism (regardless of what he thinks).
I hardly think his low improvement rating is due to some fish in Hawaii. Thankfully, people have more practical concerns.