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Nothing like finding his data in his pocket.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060615/D8I8JAC80.html

Not that the information will be good for long - one can assume that anyone who worked for Mr. Z knows they have to never go back to any safe house they've ever used. And it by no means covers all the various insurgent groups. But it is helpful if the information can be acted on quickly.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Iraq's national security adviser said Thursday a "huge treasure" of documents and computer records was seized after the raid on terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's hideout, giving the Iraqi government the upper hand in its fight against al-Qaida in Iraq.

National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie also said he believed the security situation in the country would improve enough to allow a large number of U.S.-led forces to leave Iraq by the end of this year, and a majority to depart by the end of next year. "And maybe the last soldier will leave Iraq by mid-2008," he said.

Al-Rubaie said a laptop, flashdrive and other documents were found in the debris after the airstrike that killed the al-Qaida in Iraq leader last week outside Baqouba, and more information has been uncovered in raids of other insurgent hideouts since then.

He called it a "huge treasure ... a huge amount of information."

(AP) Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie holds up a copy of a document purported to have...
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When asked how he could be sure the information was authentic, al-Rubaie said "there is nothing more authentic than finding a thumbdrive in his pocket."

"We believe that this is the beginning of the end of al-Qaida in Iraq," al-Rubaie said, adding that the documents showed al-Qaida is in "pretty bad shape," politically and in terms of training, weapons and media.

Interesting how blowing a guy up and taking his flashdrive is both more politically acceptable and more reliable than capturing him and pulling out his toenails.

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Interesting how blowing a guy up and taking his flashdrive is both more politically acceptable and more reliable than capturing him and pulling out his toenails.


Uhm, could we test both methods on the next near-oriental troublemaker?

Interesting how blowing a guy up and taking his flashdrive is both more politically acceptable and more reliable than capturing him and pulling out his toenails.
I don't think it is at all. Blowing people up is BAD and robbing the dead is pretty unacceptable too.

Torture is possibly worse, though...

Anyway - end the war now, pay reparations, run like the clappers.

Uhm, could we test both methods on the next near-oriental troublemaker?
There doesn't seem to be any real negative press about sending Mr. Z two 500-lb greeting cards - there seems to be an acceptance of just killing him outright.

If we had captured him, and tortured him, there would have been negative press about how evil we were, and how useless the information was.

I don't think it is at all. Blowing people up is BAD and robbing the dead is pretty unacceptable too.

Torture is possibly worse, though...

Anyway - end the war now, pay reparations, run like the clappers.

Just from browsing the news stories, it looks like the media at least doesn't lambast the military for blowing him up.

Just from browsing the news stories, it looks like the media at least doesn't lambast the military for blowing him up.
Yes, I know. The media, on the other hand, doesn't represent everyone's views.

I don't think it is at all. Blowing people up is BAD and robbing the dead is pretty unacceptable too.

Torture is possibly worse, though...

Anyway - end the war now, pay reparations, run like the clappers.


Naw.
Send the Arab League an invoice...


And don't forget that Imams ranting against the Western way of live is unacceptable.
Since the Arab League did not exactly exert itself in making sure that no one made any kind of disturbance, hold 'em accountable.

Looks the flash drive was tougher than the owner.

Yes, I know. The media, on the other hand, doesn't represent everyone's views.
Could have fooled me. Most sheeple and almost all of the people in Hollywood get their views from the media.

Just from browsing the news stories, it looks like the media at least doesn't lambast the military for blowing him up.
You shoot a mad dog, you do not torture one.

Then again, given your enthusiatic feelings about the topic, I am not surprised you don't know this.

FIND OUT THE MAKER OF THAT FLASHDRIVE!

What a wonderful slogan would be for them...

"It is so tough that can even survive 500 lbs. bombs and you can still retrieve the data. CERTIFIED!"

FIND OUT THE MAKER OF THAT FLASHDRIVE!

What a wonderful slogan would be for them...

"It is so tough that can even survive 500 lbs. bombs and you can still retrieve the data. CERTIFIED!"
:D :D :D

*starts buying IOMEGA shares...*

Could have fooled me. Most sheeple and almost all of the people in Hollywood get their views from the media.
Yes, but that's because they're stupid and small-minded. When they're not loving the media's attention of them, they're saying "Oh how I hate newspapers, it's just what the corporations want you to think" or some such other crap.

FIND OUT THE MAKER OF THAT FLASHDRIVE!

What a wonderful slogan would be for them...

"It is so tough that can even survive 500 lbs. bombs and you can still retrieve the data. CERTIFIED!"
I'd be more impressed if it could survive the attentions of my students. ;)

You shoot a mad dog, you do not torture one.

Then again, given your enthusiatic feelings about the topic, I am not surprised you don't know this.

Generally speaking, we're kinder to dogs than to people.

Generally speaking, we're kinder to dogs than to people.


Considering how the average dog behaves ( compared to the average human ), that would be the decent thing to do.

Could have fooled me. Most sheeple and almost all of the people in Hollywood get their views from the media.
But how is "The Daily Show" treating the events? That's where most people seem to get their 'news'.

I want one of those combat-tested flash drives for myself.

Was there any (good) porn on his flash-drive?

Was there any (good) porn on his flash-drive?


It would be better to have porn, for sure had one of those despicable beheading decapitation video footages.

It would be better to have porn, for sure had one of those despicable beheading decapitation video footages.

And a few episodes of the Happy Tree Friends perhaps?

But how is "The Daily Show" treating the events? That's where most people seem to get their 'news'.

I want one of those combat-tested flash drives for myself.

Jon seemed happy about the dude getting killed.

And a few episodes of the Happy Tree Friends perhaps?

More likely, with the moose sporting an arab outfit and the squirrels dreesed as western civilian personnel perhaps

In any case, thanks god he's dead. He was no hero, no martyr, just a cold blooded assassin

Jon seemed happy about the dude getting killed.
We'll make an real American out of him, yet!

More likely, with the moose sporting an arab outfit and the squirrels dreesed as western civilian personnel perhaps

In any case, thanks god he's dead. He was no hero, no martyr, just a cold blooded assassin

Maybe he had a real nerdy blog somewhere. Or he was part of that whole "I'm Peter Pan and a Fairy Queen"-subgenre of furry-fetishists?

More likely, with the moose sporting an arab outfit and the squirrels dreesed as western civilian personnel perhaps

In any case, thanks god he's dead. He was no hero, no martyr, just a cold blooded assassin
Like this?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8558361602583345452&q=taliban+hunting+halo

I don't know if this is fallout from the Zarqawi raid, but the Iraqi police have mounted a huge offensive in Baghdad and have killed 104 terrorists ,so far.

I don't know if this is fallout from the Zarqawi raid, but the Iraqi police have mounted a huge offensive in Baghdad and have killed 104 terrorists ,so far.
Apparently, 452 raids since Zarqawi's death.

I have the feeling that there was a list of names and places on Zarqawi's flashdrive. They seem to be acting pretty quickly.

We'll make an real American out of him, yet!

I've heard (sorry cant cite, I’m getting this from CBC radio) that The Daily Show's viewer ship is actually quite low and his fame results from his popularity with powerful media types.

Just from browsing the news stories, it looks like the media at least doesn't lambast the military for blowing him up.

Methinks you'd be hard-pressed to find ANYONE upset about this one. For once, the US/UK, the Ba'athists and other assorted Iraqi Sunnis and the Iraqi Shias can agree on something. Live by the bomb, die by the bomb

Yeah nothing like miraculously "finding" "Zarqawi's" "flash drive" in his "pocket".

What an advantageous coincidence!

Yeah nothing like miraculously "finding" "Zarqawi's" "flash drive" in his "pocket".

What an advantageous coincidence!

Because nobody carries around portable media devices. Right?

Once we get done with Iraq in 2008, next up Iran!

There doesn't seem to be any real negative press about sending Mr. Z two 500-lb greeting cards - there seems to be an acceptance of just killing him outright.

If we had captured him, and tortured him, there would have been negative press about how evil we were, and how useless the information was.

Because the fact of the matter is, people get killed in war. That he's part of the opposite side and ends up getting killed should be no surprise.

However, we are supposed to be above torture. Personally, I'd rather die quickly from a bomb blast than get tortured and then eventually executed (which is what the end result of him being captured would be). I believe that it goes against the principles this country stands for to torture people. We're supposed to be better than that, we shouldn't stoop to that level. If we compromise our principles to win, then the victory has been for nothing.

Or, to put it more simply: "It just ain't right."

What is this thread about? Blowing shit up?

What is this thread about? Blowing shit up?
I'll use smaller words next time, so you'll be sure to understand.