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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/football/06/14/germany.poland.ap/index.html

>_>

WAR! >_<

In other news, did anybody see those riot Polizei? Their armour was fucking LEET.

...before a World Cup game between Germany and Poland.

A World Cup game between Germany and Poland? How many do they think there will be?

The initial clash began about two hours before kickoff and was about 2 miles from the stadium, where German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Polish President Lech Kaczynski watched a game laden with symbolism given Germany's World War II invasion of its neighbor.

*roflmao
Yep, it's laden with symbolism indeed. It's all everybody was thinking about, during the entire game. People will always associate football with WW II... :D

*roflmao
Yep, it's laden with symbolism indeed. It's all everybody was thinking about, during the entire game. People will always associate football with WW II... :D

Yeah, American news can be full of shit.

Hmm all they wanted to do was watch the game. Fans + cops = cops are assholes.

84 years bitches!

Spain 4 - 0 Ukraine

Tunisia 2 - 2 Saudi Arabia

Germany 1939 - 0 Poland

Spain 4 - 0 Ukraine

Tunisia 2 - 2 Saudi Arabia

Germany 1939 - 0 Poland
:D
*Goose steps*

Hmm all they wanted to do was watch the game. Fans + cops = cops are assholes.
Not really. AFAIK some people started something and the police was called. Once they arrived, the hooligans started throwing bottles and stuff, other hooligans joined in and the good atmosphere was ruined for a whole bunch of innocent bystanders.
Good thing the police prepared for this and was able to get things under control quickly.

A World Cup game between Germany and Poland? How many do they think there will be?

Depending on how you read the sentence, there could be 64. ;)




Anyway, I'm just glad it wasn't England fans who managed to make tits of themselves this time. It makes a nice change.

Give them time

I don't understand why there are hooligans at all in the far more civilized and superior European nations.

We can generally go to a sporting event here and not expect a riot. From what I see, it appears as if sporting events spontaneously spawn from riots over there!

I don't understand why there are hooligans at all in the far more civilized and superior European nations.

We can generally go to a sporting event here and not expect a riot. From what I see, it appears as if sporting events spontaneously spawn from riots over there!


ANY gathering of 1000+ beerdrinkers who have not been properly taught to be focussed on being good little boys leads to riots...

I don't understand why there are hooligans at all in the far more civilized and superior European nations.

We can generally go to a sporting event here and not expect a riot. From what I see, it appears as if sporting events spontaneously spawn from riots over there!

It's traditional. The trouble is that some people just like fighting. The key thing to understand about it is that the fights are usually pre-planned. Hooligans from different clubs all know each other and have each others' phone numbers. They get in touch before the match and arrange where to meet up afterwards. When they get there, they lay into each other. Just because they enjoy it.

It's like Fight Club, basically.

Poor Poland, always get overrun by Germans!
Those nasty Teutonic Knights started it.

Poor Poland, always get overrun by Germans!
Those nasty Teutonic Knights started it.
I hope you realise that the Teutonic Knights were from Estonia and not Germany...

Poor Poland, always get overrun by Germans!
Those nasty Teutonic Knights started it.
lol dont underestimate polish

I hope you realise that the Teutonic Knights were from Estonia and not Germany...

Actually they were founded during the Crusades in the Holy Lands and decided to pick on Heathens on that area around Poland and Lithuania when the Moslems kicked them out.

Yeah, American news can be full of shit.
Don't forget that Bild is full of shit, too.

Actually they were founded during the Crusades in the Holy Lands and decided to pick on Heathens on that area around Poland and Lithuania when the Moslems kicked them out.


SHUSH!!!!
You're giving the neocons ideas there...

Don't forget that Bild is full of shit, too.He wouldn't know, he lives in Australia...

lol dont underestimate polish
Their language is, surprisingly enough, Estonian. It's much like Finnish, with a bit of Russian. It sounds weird, but strangely good.

Don't forget that Bild is full of shit, too.

Yeah, but Americans always have to bring up the war in completely the wrong context. I can picture it now:

"Germany and the UK have signed an agreement for a joint research venture. This marks a high point in relations since Germany bombed Britain in WWII."

Their language is, surprisingly enough, Estonian. It's much like Finnish, with a bit of Russian. It sounds weird, but strangely good.

Where are you FROM? Polish is much closer to Ukrainian and Czech.

Yeah, but Americans always have to bring up the war in completely the wrong context. I can picture it now:

"Germany and the UK have signed an agreement for a joint research venture. This marks a high point in relations since Germany bombed Britain in WWII."

Hmm, other than as a joke, I don't usually bring up the war in the wrong context. After all, it was a long time ago. That, and I don't believe that the US singlehandedly saved the world from Hitler.

Hmm, other than as a joke, I don't usually bring up the war in the wrong context. After all, it was a long time ago. That, and I don't believe that the US singlehandedly saved the world from Hitler.

*stabs Kimchi*

Yes we did!

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/football/06/14/germany.poland.ap/index.html

>_>

WAR! >_<
Amazing how metric football brings out the best in people.

I don't understand why there are hooligans at all in the far more civilized and superior European nations.

We can generally go to a sporting event here and not expect a riot. From what I see, it appears as if sporting events spontaneously spawn from riots over there!
Why is that a surprise? Your sports are so boring no one is ever going to get worked up about them. :p

Why is that a surprise? Your sports are so boring no one is ever going to get worked up about them. :p

I concur. I mean, glorified rounders and padded rugby? Please.

I concur. I mean, glorified rounders and padded rugby? Please.
Tell me why ice hockey fans don't get as worked up as the football fans.

I concur. I mean, glorified rounders and padded rugby? Please.

Funny, I play IPSC. No pads, and no bats. But I am sending things to the goal at around 830 feet per second.

Tell me why ice hockey fans don't get as worked up as the football fans.
Because it's too cold?

Funny, I play IPSC. No pads, and no bats. But I am sending things to the goal at around 830 feet per second.
I don't think you want those fans rioting.

Tell me why ice hockey fans don't get as worked up as the football fans.

Have you even ever been to a hockey game? I have scars from such.

Funny, I play IPSC.

International Practical Shooting Confederation?

No pads, and no bats. But I am sending things to the goal at around 830 feet per second.

And in a sane system of measurements, that would be how many metres per second?

International Practical Shooting Confederation?

And in a sane system of measurements, that would be how many metres per second?

And explain to me once again, why bullets are measured for mass in "grains" rather than "grams", even at Norma. They even measure the powder charge in "grains".

And explain to me once again, why bullets are measured for mass in "grains" rather than "grams", even at Norma. They even measure the powder charge in "grains".

The yankees agreed to pay for it;)

The yankees agreed to pay for it;)
Nope - it's a long standing tradition in ballistics.

Nope - it's a long standing tradition in ballistics.

No doubt. But as long as we get paid, we ain't gonna quibble.

And explain to me once again, why bullets are measured for mass in "grains" rather than "grams", even at Norma. They even measure the powder charge in "grains".

Because neither of those are velocities. *ponders why so many calibres come in millimetres, and why US imperial measurements are defined in SI units*

Because neither of those are velocities. *ponders why so many calibres come in millimetres*
In the US, many calibers are metric, especially those cartridges conceived after the 1960s.

Grains, on the other hand, were a measurement used at first by pharmacists and apothecaries.

Grains are still universally used for powder measurement.

In the US, many calibers are metric, especially those cartridges conceived after the 1960s.

Grains, on the other hand, were a measurement used at first by pharmacists and apothecaries.

Grains are still universally used for powder measurement.

That antiqued usage, probably equally as bound for extinction as the deprecated imperial measurements, still doesn't answer my question about metres per second, although I am willing to accept the more tangible kilometre as substitute.

In the US, many calibers are metric, especially those cartridges conceived after the 1960s.

Grains, on the other hand, were a measurement used at first by pharmacists and apothecaries.

Grains are still universally used for powder measurement.


And actually, the grains so used are a French measure. From Troyes.
(Avoirdupois isn't english, if you know what I mean...)

And the Yanks pay for it.

That antiqued usage, probably equally as bound for extinction as the deprecated imperial measurements, still doesn't answer my question about metres per second, although I am willing to accept the more tangible kilometre as substitute.
We're more mixed on velocity measurements that you suspect.

Oddly, the military has been on kilometers and meters since the early 1960s - probably the closest Americans come to continuous usage/exposure to the metric system.

Imperial doesn't seem to be completely deprecated in the UK. It was very confusing to see signs marking the speed limit in metric, and the distance to the next town in Imperial.

Oh, a tad over 250 meters per second (252 and change).

Imperial doesn't seem to be completely deprecated in the UK. It was very confusing to see signs marking the speed limit in metric, and the distance to the next town in Imperial.
All road signs are in imperial. If you were following speed limits in metric, I expect you had a lot of angry people behind you. :p

We're more mixed on velocity measurements that you suspect.

Oddly, the military has been on kilometers and meters since the early 1960s - probably the closest Americans come to continuous usage/exposure to the metric system.

Imperial doesn't seem to be completely deprecated in the UK. It was very confusing to see signs marking the speed limit in metric, and the distance to the next town in Imperial.


And on the other hand, one can go batty between the conflicting UK/US definition of Gallon. Mind you, more than one operation has gone balls-up because of that.

( The first attempt to fly Spitfires to Malta comes to mind. )

All road signs are in imperial. If you were following speed limits in metric, I expect you had a lot of angry people behind you. :p
That explains it. LOL.

Why are they still Imperial?

Have you even ever been to a hockey game? I have scars from such.
Never in Europe. Fans in the United States were few and far between when I was playing. I played all through college at Ohio State and still managed to pass the Marine Corps flight physical.

That explains it. LOL.

Why are they still Imperial?


Tradition.
Like having a Queen.
Does no harm, and keeps everyone quite happy.

We're more mixed on velocity measurements that you suspect.

Oddly, the military has been on kilometers and meters since the early 1960s - probably the closest Americans come to continuous usage/exposure to the metric system.

Leaving your usage ever more enigmatic.

Imperial doesn't seem to be completely deprecated in the UK. It was very confusing to see signs marking the speed limit in metric, and the distance to the next town in Imperial.

Those pockets of resistence are powerless against the EU bureaucracy juggernaut in the long run. Thus, patience. Switches take time.

Tradition.
Like having a Queen.
Does no harm, and keeps everyone quite happy.
Fass thinks it's harmful in some way.

That explains it. LOL.

Why are they still Imperial?
Because trying to do anything 'European' meets with lots of resistance. It took 30 years to go metric with weights and measurements, and there was a law passed, in 1996 I believe, that banned any metric measurements on roadsigns. You occassionally see stories about people taking Council's to court for putting a sign up with 'metres' on.

Fass thinks it's harmful in some way.


Mind you, I think Fass is mostly a splendid chap, but I do hope you realise that I'm not about to embark on some kind of crusade whenever HE thinks something is harmful.

Never in Europe. Fans in the United States were few and far between when I was playing.

An unpopular sport?

I played all through college at Ohio State and still managed to pass the Marine Corps flight physical.

What the first has to do with the latter, or the subject at hand, I've no idea.

Fass thinks it's harmful in some way.

The Monarchy? That's we've guillotines for. They should be lucky we've the Convention, too.

An unpopular sport?
Then it was. I played during the years right before the big 1980 win over the Soviets in the Olympics. We could fill the ice rink with almost a hundred fans for any given game. In fact, there were no tickets for games.



What the first has to do with the latter, or the subject at hand, I've no idea.
Not much, except that I escaped mostly unscathed from years of skating.

Then it was. I played during the years right before the big 1980 win over the Soviets in the Olympics. We could fill the ice rink with almost a hundred fans for any given game. In fact, there were no tickets for games.

So your anecdotes are virtually antediluvian?

Not much, except that I escaped mostly unscathed from years of skating.

That is fortunate and disappointing at the same time.

Then it was. I played during the years right before the big 1980 win over the Soviets in the Olympics. We could fill the ice rink with almost a hundred fans for any given game. In fact, there were no tickets for games.

Not much, except that I escaped mostly unscathed from years of skating.

Before the 1980 Olympics, I could go to a Capitals hockey game and always get a seat for cheap near the ice. I went for the excellent hot dogs and lousy beer.

Shortly thereafter, it became impossible, and yet the standard of play continued at its previous amateurish level.

It's like Fight Club, basically.

You're not supposed to talk about that...

So your anecdotes are virtually antediluvian?


Yes, we Americans have very long lives, despite our regular diet.

I attribute my continuing youth to my steady habit of drinking the blood of recently killed innocent civilians.

Yes, we Americans have very long lives, despite our regular diet.

Comparatively.

I attribute my continuing youth to my steady habit of drinking the blood of recently killed innocent civilians.

Well, at least you'll be guaranteed a steady supply of those, it seems, no matter the pretence to the opposite.

Well, at least you'll be guaranteed a steady supply of those, it seems, no matter the pretence to the opposite.


See? In the long run, supply ALWAYS matches demand!
Capitalism works!

See? In the long run, supply ALWAYS matches demand!
Capitalism works!
I hear Stalin always ran a surplus, just to keep the Politburo satisfied for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

See? In the long run, supply ALWAYS matches demand!
Capitalism works!
But innocent people might get sad when you drink their blood, and no system that makes people sad can be really called a working one :(

I hear Stalin always ran a surplus, just to keep the Politburo satisfied for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Well, the silly fool oughta have had a tiny bit of Milton Keynes to boost demand in that case.
The supply-surplus was due to government interference.

But innocent people might get sad when you drink their blood, and no system that makes people sad can be really called a working one :(
:eek:
Have you noticed a working system where people don't go sad?

But innocent people might get sad when you drink their blood, and no system that makes people sad can be really called a working one :(
Dead people can't cry.

Dead people can't cry.

We don't have to kill ( not at first anyway ).

When properly prepared, our Dr Josef 'DaGoul' Mingela von Dracula discovered that your average Innocent Test Person can be bled of 2 pints per day for an entire week before euthanasia becomes advisable.

:eek:
Have you noticed a working system where people don't go sad?

Nope. Your point?

See? In the long run, supply ALWAYS matches demand!
Capitalism works!

Indeed, capitalism works its consequences.

Nope. Your point?

Then what do you call a working system?

Then what do you call a working system?
A system in which people don't get sad.

A system in which people don't get sad.

Or else.

A system in which people don't get sad.

And what do you call a system in which people get sad?

Or else.
...or else it isn't working.

And what do you call a system in which people get sad?
Bundhargywaszerghandimawaya.

Bundhargywaszerghandimawaya.

Say again?

Say again?
Bundhargywaszerghandimawaya.

DAMN I'm good in debating!

DAMN I'm good in debating!

*goes glassy-eyed an mumbles*

IneedadrinkofInnocentBlood!

Or else.
"All shall make merry, on pain of death!"

Bundhargywaszerghandimawaya.
Bless you.

Bless you.

:D

Interesting article.

For much of the day, German police had been working with their Polish counterparts to identify and arrest Polish hooligans from the throngs massing for the match between the neighboring countries. At least 60 Poles were arrested and did not offer resistance, police said.

Blitzkrieg!


Last week, German police increased checks on the Polish border. A special train taking several hundred Polish fans to Dortmund also carried Polish and German police, said Rafal Wasiak, the spokesman for Polish police working in Germany.

Special train ohnoes!

:p