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What would you most like to be identified by?

Saipea
14-06-2006, 12:50
I intend my question to ask what "aspect" of yourself would you most like to be identified by due to you having the most pride in being. If you don't have any aspect about you that you have pride for, *hug*, and remember that people aren't supposed to be labeled in the first place.

READ FIRST: Please choose one option only, and the last option ("minority") if you are a minority of the category you selected (see below).

Poll elaboration on the term "minority". Note that if you strongly feel differently about my qualifications, you should go with your gut.
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Gender: Female, despite being the majority.
Sexuality: Non-heterosexual.
Age: 13-25, given the negative reputation
Race/ethnicity: Non-white and "multiracial", given demograpics of NS and western world.
Religion: Non-Christians, given demographics of NS and western world.
Nationality: Non-U.S., given that it's currently the foremost power.

Even if you consider yourself "ethnically [religion]" or "ethnically [nationality]" do to a millennia of ancestors breeding within a small group, please select the respective categories of Religion/Philosophy and Nationality for this poll.

I know people don't like to be labeled, but that should have no bearings on your ability to answer a poll competently.

Notes:
Add political philosophy as a choice
Make it single choice with minority as a posted thing
Kanabia
14-06-2006, 12:54
Er... by my personality and actions. I'm not a category.
BogMarsh
14-06-2006, 12:55
What Kanabia said.

None of the others comes even close to being my unique identity.
At best, they are merely a component part of my identity.
Cabra West
14-06-2006, 12:59
I guess the easiest way to identify me would be to check my tattoo.... :confused:
Kanabia
14-06-2006, 13:02
I guess the easiest way to identify me would be to check my tattoo.... :confused:

Like this? (http://www.bmezine.com/tattoo/A00611/high/ean-code.jpg)
Saipea
14-06-2006, 13:04
Er... by my personality and actions. I'm not a category.

Oh for the gods' sakes, just roll with the poll.
I'm no automaton either, but at least I can go with a question. If it's too hard to answer, just admit it.
Bottle
14-06-2006, 13:06
I think anybody who tries to "identify me" based on my gender is making a mistake, because pretty much everybody who tries to do so ends up being almost 100% wrong in every assumption they make about me. Same for my sexual orientation, because most people don't understand what it is in the first place. Ditto for my lack of religious beliefs (why do people assume that anybody who doesn't actively believe in a God must be a rabid atheist?). I'm not a typical individual of my nation, so I don't think I should be considered on those grounds.

I guess that leaves my ethnicity. I don't really think about my "race" at all, so it seems odd to think of being identified by it, but I think it's the one option that is least likely (of the above choices) to lead a person to jump to false conclusions about me.
Saipea
14-06-2006, 13:06
Oh for the gods' sakes, just roll with the poll.
I'm no automaton either, but at least I can go with a question. If it's too hard to answer, just admit it.

And don't be a dick like Hydesland, either.
You can never trust people with multiple choice polls these days. :(
RusNine
14-06-2006, 13:09
The question is "what would you most like to be identified by?", indicating that you're meant to state your preference from that list. We all know you're "not just a number", etc., but play along.

From those, I'd pick "age", because I think it's the option open to the least amount of subjective interpretation. However, it depends what age I am at the time. If I was just known as "16-year-old", I'm sure I'd be targeted by many stereotypical put-downs, whereas "twenty-something" seems more neutral.
Londim
14-06-2006, 13:10
In my experience definatly race but I don't care because it usually makes me the life of the party
Saipea
14-06-2006, 13:12
From those, I'd pick "age", because I think it's the option open to the least amount of subjective interpretation. However, it depends what age I am at the time. If I was just known as "16-year-old", I'm sure I'd be targeted by many stereotypical put-downs, whereas "twenty-something" seems more neutral.

That's an interesting take on the question, given, as you've stated, that the question seems to bother some people. How I actually interpreted it was not how you'd like people to know you by but what you have most pride in being.
Kanabia
14-06-2006, 13:12
Oh for the gods' sakes, just roll with the poll.
I'm no automaton either, but at least I can go with a question. If it's too hard to answer, just admit it.

I honestly can't answer it. I'm not just trying to be difficult, but I honestly wouldn't like to be referred to solely as any of them - i'm more than a number or nationality. They all get stereotyped in some way which I feel contradicts with my identity as a person. I consider myself human before I'd consider myself a 20-year-old straight male agnostic Australian of Caucasian descent - which doesnt really tell you anything about me, because there are only several million others out there that fit exactly that description. Not only that, I feel that several, particularly ethnicity, are totally irrelevant to my identity anyway.
Bottle
14-06-2006, 13:15
That's an interesting take on the question, given, as you've stated, that the question seems to bother some people. How I actually interpreted it was not how you'd like people to know you by but what you have most pride in being.
Oooooh. I totally interpretted it a different way, then. Oops.

I guess then maybe my answer would change to...my lack of religious beliefs? That's the only one of the above options that I have complete conscious control over, so it's the only one that I deserve to feel personal pride in. I can't very well walk around being proud that I happen to be born with a certain set of sex chromosomes, since it's not like I really put a lot of effort into making that happen. :)
RusNine
14-06-2006, 13:17
That's an interesting take on the question, given, as you've stated, that the question seems to bother some people. How I actually interpreted it was not how you'd like people to know you by but what you have most pride in being.

Ah, I was looking at it from the perspective that there'd be someone else doing the identifying, and they'd be forming opinions as they're an exterior "something". If it was phrased more like "Which of these do you feel describes you?", then I might've seen it differently, but I hope I didn't miss the point of the thread.
Kanabia
14-06-2006, 13:18
Oooooh. I totally interpretted it a different way, then. Oops.

Hm, So did I, then.

I guess then maybe my answer would change to...my lack of religious beliefs? That's the only one of the above options that I have complete conscious control over, so it's the only one that I deserve to feel personal pride in. I can't very well walk around being proud that I happen to be born with a certain set of sex chromosomes, since it's not like I really put a lot of effort into making that happen. :)

I'd have to agree with you there.
Cannot think of a name
14-06-2006, 13:20
My hat and my beard, which is pretty much what happens.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
14-06-2006, 13:23
I consider myself human before I'd consider myself a 20-year-old straight male agnostic Australian of Caucasian descent *snip*
it tells ME that you'd do pretty well picking up in bars if you were in canada. damned accents, and my lack thereof...

I'd say age. Respect your elders and betters and me.
Peepelonia
14-06-2006, 13:24
I'd guess thinking hard about it, what one of these lebels means most to me, I would have to go with sex.

I'm a man,when you look at my magnificent facial hair you can tell I'm a man, my wife calls me a man everyday, so I'm gonna say Sex, umm, man!
Saipea
14-06-2006, 13:25
Hm, So did I, then.

My bad then. At least you didn't just vandalize the poll.
Kanabia
14-06-2006, 13:25
Saipea, you didn't need to delete that comment, I got a laugh out of it. :D

...how ironic that I came to the above decision, then. :p

But it's not like I walk around calling myself an agnostic anyway. *shrugs*

it tells ME that you'd do pretty well picking up in bars if you were in canada. damned accents, and my lack thereof...

Heh, well, it doesn't work for me here, so...wanna swap lives? :D
Kanabia
14-06-2006, 13:26
My bad then. At least you didn't just vandalize the poll.

*is tempted to do it now just to irritate you, but restrains self* :p
Cluichstan
14-06-2006, 13:27
Er... by my personality and actions. I'm not a category.

Ditto.
Saipea
14-06-2006, 13:36
*is tempted to do it now just to irritate you, but restrains self* :p

If I were allowed to make 12 options for a poll, I wouldn't be stuck with people having their way with my multiple choice one. :(
Bottle
14-06-2006, 13:37
Ditto.
The point of the poll, as I understand it, was to select your preference from a range of options, not to state your absolute ideal.

It's like if you go to dinner at somebody else's house, and they don't happen to be serving all your favorite dishes. You still can pick from the options they offer you.
Peepelonia
14-06-2006, 13:39
Ditto.


Hehhehe not a gatergory huh!? That makes me laff, so without gatergrising your self, how would you say umm ohhh do a job interview, expaline to your new boy/girl friends over protective dad what sort of person you are, listen to and explain why what genre of music you like?

Labels, labels labels. I hear this said quite offent, you can't label me, I'm not a label, don't try to put me in a pigieon hole blah blah blah.

Labels are just words we give to things in order to understand them. You are a catergory, you can be, and have been labeled, in fact to truely be unlabled means you don't exist, but seeing as these things are also labels mybe I'm talking out of what I label my arse!
Saipea
14-06-2006, 13:42
Hehhehe not a gatergory huh!? That makes me laff, so without gatergrising your self, how would you say umm ohhh do a job interview, expaline to your new boy/girl friends over protective dad what sort of person you are, listen to and explain why what genre of music you like?

Labels, labels labels. I hear this said quite offent, you can't label me, I'm not a label, don't try to put me in a pigieon hole blah blah blah.

Labels are just words we give to things in order to understand them. You are a catergory, you can be, and have been labeled, in fact to truely be unlabled means you don't exist, but seeing as these things are also labels mybe I'm talking out of what I label my arse!

Uh... besides the egregious typos, well said. I think?
Bottle
14-06-2006, 13:45
Hehhehe not a gatergory huh!? That makes me laff, so without gatergrising your self, how would you say umm ohhh do a job interview, expaline to your new boy/girl friends over protective dad what sort of person you are, listen to and explain why what genre of music you like?

Labels, labels labels. I hear this said quite offent, you can't label me, I'm not a label, don't try to put me in a pigieon hole blah blah blah.

Labels are just words we give to things in order to understand them. You are a catergory, you can be, and have been labeled, in fact to truely be unlabled means you don't exist, but seeing as these things are also labels mybe I'm talking out of what I label my arse!
Somebody's been chugging the Nyquil again, I see...;)

Seriously, though, you make a good (if poorly-spelt) point.
Saipea
14-06-2006, 14:02
Ah crap. I forgot being identified by political philosophy.
I'll definently have to redo this thread... at a more popular time... several weeks from now.
Peepelonia
14-06-2006, 14:02
Uh... besides the egregious typos, well said. I think?

Yah I would applogise for all that but here are three reasons why I dont'

1) Can't help it, I labour also under the dyslxic label
2) I have been like it all my life, and am now quite used to it, I just don't let it bother me any more.
3) It don't bother me, and I'm not bothered at all if it botheres anybody else, it's just an internet forum, and not my actual work.

Any how, i think I neglected to say thanks!:D
Bottle
14-06-2006, 14:02
Ah shit. I forgot political philosophy.
I'll definently have to redo this thread... at a more popular time... several weeks from now.
Lol, nothing wrong with doing a little rough-drafting.
Saipea
14-06-2006, 14:03
Yah I would applogise for all that but here are three reasons why I dont'

1) Can't help it, I labour also under the dyslxic label
2) I have been like it all my life, and am now quite used to it, I just don't let it bother me any more.
3) It don't bother me, and I'm not bothered at all if it botheres anybody else, it's just an internet forum, and not my actual work.

Any how, i think I neglected to say thanks!:D

Good reasons. Sorry for being so uncouth.
Saipea
14-06-2006, 14:06
You know, I bet some people didn't even look at the "minority" option. Scratch that, I know some didn't.

*grumble grumble*
Ah well. I guess it isn't scientific anyway.
Peepelonia
14-06-2006, 14:10
Good reasons. Sorry for being so uncouth.

Heheh don't worry like I said, 'I aint bothered'

On a differant note, though, I was satisfied to find out that the word uncouth does actualy come from the old forgotten word couth, meaning a person of refinedness. Don't quite know why I botherd to type all of that out *shrug* I guess we do learn summit new every day huh.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
14-06-2006, 14:13
You know, I bet some people didn't even look at the "minority" option. Scratch that, I know some didn't.

*grumble grumble*
Ah well. I guess it isn't scientific anyway.
what's the minority option on age? i've got no handle on demographics.
Saipea
14-06-2006, 14:13
Heheh don't worry like I said, 'I aint bothered'

On a differant note, though, I was satisfied to find out that the word uncouth does actualy come from the old forgotten word couth, meaning a person of refinedness. Don't quite know why I botherd to type all of that out *shrug* I guess we do learn summit new every day huh.

Yes. Seeing as how that satisfied my quota, though, I'm going on my way.
Saipea
14-06-2006, 14:14
what's the minority option on age? i've got no handle on demographics.

OP has a section for it: 13 to 25.
Evil Satanic OzMonkeys
14-06-2006, 14:18
I am white, which I do not mind, but I am American, so I get judged as dimwitted by my international friends...

I would rather be judged by gender and religious/philisophical beliefs, because I am proud of being a man, because I will never have to give birth or give head. :) And with the religious/philisophical beliefs, I can argue my beliefs.

I hate being judged by age: I'm 13, so everyone says I'm young. Which is true, but I should still have the right for arguing. I have created a word for age discrimination, and it is agist. Most people in the universe are agist, and it is WRONG.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
14-06-2006, 14:26
OP has a section for it: 13 to 25.
oops, i'm minority then. sorry OP, thanks saipea...
Damor
14-06-2006, 14:34
I suppose, I'd most like to be identified with intellect.. Or being a smart ass..
I really don't care much for any of the options on the poll. I'd quite happily leave people utterly confused about any of 'm; but I generally wouldn't suffer being called stupid lightly.
The Coral Islands
14-06-2006, 15:54
I picked religion. At least in some ways, I seem to have been successful. Yesterday a friend of mine surprised me by saying I was "über-religious".

Realistically, though, religion is more difficult to tell from a first glance. My age, gender, and ethnicity can be seen plainly by any passer-by. Likewise, I imagine one could probably guess my nationality and my sexual preference more easily than my religion.
Ny Nordland
14-06-2006, 16:21
Race/Ethnicity. I didnt vote for others because the poll said "most".
Saipea
14-06-2006, 23:07
Race/Ethnicity. I didnt vote for others because the poll said "most".

Thank you.
Soheran
14-06-2006, 23:24
Religion/philosophy, because unlike all the other categories it involves actual choice.
Teh Coolioness
14-06-2006, 23:32
Like this? (http://www.bmezine.com/tattoo/A00611/high/ean-code.jpg)that tatoo is fucking awesome!

<33
Big Jim P
14-06-2006, 23:35
My good looks, wit and charm.
Not bad
15-06-2006, 00:26
Hopefully not DNA evidence
Rangerville
15-06-2006, 00:37
Of those things, i would prefer to be identified by my philosophical beliefs. I don't practice any religion and i'm agnostic, but i do believe a lot of things that affect how i see the world.
DesignatedMarksman
15-06-2006, 02:36
I am an American Christian who is a resident of the state of Tejas.

'Nuff said.
Saipea
15-06-2006, 02:50
Lol, nothing wrong with doing a little rough-drafting.

This topic had always been a life long dream of mine. Sort of like a science project that I never had the chance to realize in school. So yes, I promise you'll see this in better form in a month or so.

Maybe next time I should build understanding of the terms before I create the poll.
Kiryu-shi
15-06-2006, 03:18
I forgot to pick the minority option in addition to race/ethnicity...:(

Oh well. I would have picked religion/belief, but my ideas are too fluid in that area for even me to identify my self that way.
Saipea
15-06-2006, 03:21
I forgot to pick the other option in addition to race/ethnicity...:(

Nope. You have to choose one option only. That's what the qualifier "most" means.
Ny Nordland
15-06-2006, 03:25
Nope. You have to choose one option only. That's what the qualifier "most" means.

You should have made it mono option poll and asked them to state if they are minority by posting. Many people havent read the OP, it seems...
Kiryu-shi
15-06-2006, 03:27
Nope. You have to choose one option only. That's what the qualifier "most" means.

I meant minority, whoops.
Saipea
15-06-2006, 03:45
I meant minority, whoops.

My bad. I'm sorry, I'm just a bit jumpy about the topic. It's my first time working with a highly complicated poll that was multi-choice. And something that I was seriously interested in.
Saipea
15-06-2006, 03:46
You should have made it mono option poll and asked them to state if they are minority by posting. Many people havent read the OP, it seems...

You're right... I guess. I don't think many people would post that though.
But, I guess I'll try it the next time around.

Actually... the whole issue of being a "minority" in the group is sort of of tangential to the question as a whole. So you're right.
Infinite Revolution
15-06-2006, 03:48
locality
we need an 'other' option
Deep Kimchi
15-06-2006, 03:51
Actually, by the type of pistol I carry...
Oriadeth
15-06-2006, 03:59
That's an interesting take on the question, given, as you've stated, that the question seems to bother some people. How I actually interpreted it was not how you'd like people to know you by but what you have most pride in being.
I misinterpreted it as well. I identify as male, but I would like to be known for what it is in my signature.