NationStates Jolt Archive


Justice or Mayhem? You Decide!

Deep Kimchi
12-06-2006, 20:54
Yes, it's that rough justice that Americans are fond of and known for...

If you had been the employees, and managed to get the robber's gun, would you have beaten him? Would you have quietly held him for the police with no assaults upon him?

http://www.comcast.net/news/strange/index.jsp?cat=STRANGE&fn=/2006/06/12/411381.html&cvqh=itn_robber
The South Islands
12-06-2006, 20:56
Even better news... (http://www.comcast.net/news/strange/index.jsp?cat=STRANGE&fn=/2006/06/12/411503.html)
PsychoticDan
12-06-2006, 20:56
At least some people get what they ask for.
The Nazz
12-06-2006, 20:58
Even better news... (http://www.comcast.net/news/strange/index.jsp?cat=STRANGE&fn=/2006/06/12/411503.html)
Heh--17 beers is child's play, I tells ya! :D
WangWee
12-06-2006, 21:27
Even better news... (http://www.comcast.net/news/strange/index.jsp?cat=STRANGE&fn=/2006/06/12/411503.html)
Now that's justice
DesignatedMarksman
12-06-2006, 21:30
I would have kept beating him until he stopped resisting a lawful arrest. Then I would have throw in one more for being a moron in general and for moving, just to be legal.
JuNii
12-06-2006, 21:34
Yes, it's that rough justice that Americans are fond of and known for...

If you had been the employees, and managed to get the robber's gun, would you have beaten him? Would you have quietly held him for the police with no assaults upon him?

http://www.comcast.net/news/strange/index.jsp?cat=STRANGE&fn=/2006/06/12/411381.html&cvqh=itn_robber
I would have beaten him untill he was no longer a threat. that means not trying to escape either. the people in the store get my support.

oh and before you stand by that statement about rough justice only in America... try doint that in Thailand or in other asian countries. I've seen store owners with machettes going after would be robbers.

and a fleeing criminal does not mean a helpless one. who knows, he might be going to get his buddies to come back.
Aardweasels
12-06-2006, 21:42
I would have chased him down and beaten him until he was unable to escape. How many other friends did he have? How many other weapons? Whose to say he wouldn't have come back, or tried the same at another store (where he might have killed someone?).

He got what he deserved.
Taldaan
12-06-2006, 21:43
Smack him in the head with the pipe enough to ensure that he isn't going anywhere in a hurry, then keep him at gunpoint until the police arrive. If he tries anything funny, hit him with the pipe again. Not enough to kill him obviously, but enough to make sure that he is captured without anyone else being hurt.
Thanosara
12-06-2006, 22:43
If he pointed a gun at me, he'd be lucky if he was still breathing when the cops arrived. If he could run, he obviously wasn't beaten severely enough. I would have shot him with his own gun, in the back if necessary.

You can call it bloodthirsty if you want, but anyone who threatens my life, or the life of someone under my protection, forfeits their own.
Infinite Revolution
12-06-2006, 23:12
once someone is subdued they have surrendered. would you shoot someone who was waving the white flag of truce? i hope not. i didn't bother reading the article but i'll assume the robber was subdued and held on the ground. beating someone while they're down is just cowardly. it's not justice, it's pathetic.
JuNii
12-06-2006, 23:15
once someone is subdued they have surrendered. would you shoot someone who was waving the white flag of truce? i hope not. i didn't bother reading the article but i'll assume the robber was subdued and held on the ground. beating someone while they're down is just cowardly. it's not justice, it's pathetic.nope, the robber ran out of the store and the people followed, still beating on him. he got away and was arrested week[s] later.
Infinite Revolution
12-06-2006, 23:32
well i've read it now. it says they had him at gunpoint - they could have easily just held him til the police got there. instead they just beat him til he ran away. they're just as bad as the guy with the gun.
JuNii
12-06-2006, 23:35
well i've read it now. it says they had him at gunpoint - they could have easily just held him til the police got there. instead they just beat him til he ran away. they're just as bad as the guy with the gun.
if they held him at gunpoint, I don't think he would've tried to escape. sounds like alot is missing from the story. it's all on his [robber's] point of view and nothing from the store employees involved.
Drunk commies deleted
12-06-2006, 23:35
I voted "only until he stopped resisting", but depending on how angry I am he might resist for quite some time.
JuNii
12-06-2006, 23:41
I voted "only until he stopped resisting", but depending on how angry I am he might resist for quite some time.
"He breathed on me!" *Whack! Whack! Whack!* "look there... he moved towards that tire iron" (15 ft away) *Whack! Whack! Whack!* :D
Jentacular
12-06-2006, 23:42
I think the main part of the story was not about whether or how they beat the robber, but how the robber is trying to sue them. I can't think of many other countries where the case would ever be imagined.
Kynot
12-06-2006, 23:50
I think the main part of the story was not about whether or how they beat the robber, but how the robber is trying to sue them. I can't think of many other countries where the case would ever be imagined.

I would have beat him to death. A dead man can't file a lawsuit :D
Allovadaplace
13-06-2006, 00:17
... but of course "resisting" is subject to opinion ;D
Andaluciae
13-06-2006, 00:24
Solidly on the side of those AutoZone employees. This SOB sauntered into the store, pointed a gun in their faces and demanded their money or their lives. They promptly whacked him with a pipe and made him drop his gun. He started to run, they chased him, continuing to whack him with said pipe, with the hopes of subduing him, which they never achieved.
Kecibukia
13-06-2006, 00:30
Don't you all know. You're supposed to be passive and give the criminal whatever they want. They won't hurt you then.
Secret aj man
13-06-2006, 00:42
I think the main part of the story was not about whether or how they beat the robber, but how the robber is trying to sue them. I can't think of many other countries where the case would ever be imagined.


that is truly pathetic..aint it?

that guys is lucky to be alive,let alone suing someone he put a gun on.

i was always raised around guns,always had them.
rule #1 my dad taught me was never put your finger on the trigger till you are ready to shoot!
and as i got older,it turned into that with the addition of...NEVER point a gun unless you plan on shooting..PERIOD!

i would never point a gun,even in jest at anyone,ever,unless i planned on shooting...so if someone points a gun at my face,i take serious offence,and if it is in jest or playing,they get a serious dose of wrath from me,if they do it with the intent to rob or hurt me...they better shoot is all i will say!

jerkoff got less then he deserved imho.

he will get out and probably kill someone someday,hopefully he gets the shit beat out of him in jail so he is so cowed later he doesnt dare go back,or,doubtfully,but preferable..rehabilitated.

i just heard the crime rate (violent) has recently just spiked some,and the fbi is speculating that it is the result of all the felons from the eighties(when crime was thru the roof(the narco trafficer guys)finishing their sentences and be released back into society.

i know the prison system does not concentrate on rehab. so maybe if they did,we may not have this problem popping back up(if the fbi speculation is in fact correct)or,then again,maybe some people are just incorrigable and being in prison just makes em nastier?

i wouldnt presume to know,but it seems to be a good question.