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Well it is finally here. FIFA Ranked 5th USA takes on the team from the Czech Republic.

Who is going to win?

The Czechs, without too much problem at all. They are, after all, the FIFA no 2 ranked team, given that you put that much emphasis on the FIFA rankings.

the Czechs

i think its funny how espn and SI are pushing people to watch this match, or US soccer in the worldcup in general.

sadly, no one is going to care/watch this game. hell, japan/australia was a better match.

fifa rankings are bullshit. USA at 5th? please, they never play anyone.

i think its funny how espn and SI are pushing people to watch this match, or US soccer in the worldcup in general.

sadly, no one is going to care/watch this game. hell, japan/australia was a better match.

fifa rankings are bullshit. USA at 5th? please, they never play anyone.
That was a good match.



Czechs.

i think its funny how espn and SI are pushing people to watch this match, or US soccer in the worldcup in general.

sadly, no one is going to care/watch this game. hell, japan/australia was a better match.

fifa rankings are bullshit. USA at 5th? please, they never play anyone.

I actually think that ESPN and SI are doing the right thing. In other countries, the games involving the national team are much more hyped than other matches. (You would not believe the hype here for Brazil vs Croatia tomorrow).

Part of the idea of the World Cup is to be nationalistic and support your team.

Having said that the USA are not that good a team, and certainly are not the fifth best in the world.

3:0 for Czech. I think they'll make the best achievement of the WC so far today.

As far as I remember, they had the 3rd place in the European Championship, just behind Portugal and Greece.

Part of the idea of the World Cup is to be nationalistic and support your team.

Hell, yeah! Go England, and allez les Bleus! :D


Having said that the USA are not that good a team, and certainly are not the fifth best in the world.

Indeed not. They're nowhere near fifth best, but they're improving steadily. I predict a 2-0 win for the Czech Republic. (I see the Czechs getting all the way to the semis.) A draw would be a surprise, but not a huge one.

The Czechs are clearly the better team, but the USians shouldn't be discounted as helpless.

This is probably the most evenly matched match so far. Japan and Australia was pretty close too. All the other games have been f-ing horrible though.

USA vs. Czech Republic 1:3
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/fussball.jpg

This is probably the most evenly matched match so far. Japan and Australia was pretty close too. All the other games have been f-ing horrible though.

Did you even watch the Argentina-Ivory Coast match?

Does the rest of the world even know that most of the US doesnt even know that an american soccer team exists. Nobody cares. Like we are completely apathetic. There are maybe 1 million out of 300 million who are actually looking foreward to the world cup. Its really kinda funny. y'all just need to understand that american football...real football...is the only way to go. baseball...hell yes....basketball...dont even get me started....soccer is just....well its a grass fairy sport. Like everybody who plays in america...is gay....

So how will the USA stop Jan Koller and how do they contain Pavel Nedved? They are lucky that they don't have to deal with Milan Baros as well (he is injured apparently).
Oh and watch out for Rosicky, he bites. (not literally as far as I know)

Did you even watch the Argentina-Ivory Coast match?

Indeed. A far more evenly balanced match than the upcoming one.

Of course, Sweden v. Trinidad & Tobago was surprisingly balanced in its own way too. ;) Go T&T!

Indeed. A far more evenly balanced match than the upcoming one.

Of course, Sweden v. Trinidad & Tobago was surprisingly balanced in its own way too. ;) Go T&T!



WHO CARES?????

its frikin sweden...my god the ivory coast...paraguay...honestly these countries are like....half the world is oblivous to the fact that they even exist...yet you guys go crazy over their soccer team. i dont get it.

After what I've seen tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA won 12-0.

Between this ending roughly around 3 am local time and the Oilers-Canes starting a bit after 9 am, I gonna be a wreck at work tomorrow... :(

hahaha...how in the world is USA ranked 5th????? hahaha. sorry but thers NO WAY thats true. FIFA corruption at work again.

I'd say czech republic are playing against themselves here...if they play as a team to their potential, the yanks have no chance.

y'all just need to understand that american football...real football...is the only way to go.

Oh, you must mean that silly sport where they hardly use their feet, and don't use a proper ball.

Don't worry. Czech will win, by a lot.:sniper:

Did you even watch the Argentina-Ivory Coast match?
did you notice that some excellent players were not even playing?
did you notice that even tho we did not use our best squad, we won

and we would've won by a bigger margin had the referee recognized the goals and the Ivorian goalkepeer had not cheated

Did you even watch the Argentina-Ivory Coast match?
Oops! I totally forgot! Was it good?

After what I've seen tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA won 12-0.
ahahahhahaaa

3-0 for the Czechs

Go Czech Republic!!!! :)
I think 3:2.

Oh, you must mean that silly sport where they hardly use their feet, and don't use a proper ball.


silly sport...PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED PLAYING!!!!! you get the crap kicked out of you on a daily basis. its a man's sport...not a little thing where you kick a ball....OOOOH BOY IM KICKING A BALL.....WHAT FUN!!!!!!! EXTACTIC!!!

:upyours: Nadkor:mp5: :mp5: :sniper:

silly sport...PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED PLAYING!!!!! you get the crap kicked out of you on a daily basis. its a man's sport...not a little thing where you kick a ball....OOOOH BOY IM KICKING A BALL.....WHAT FUN!!!!!!! EXTACTIC!!!
so sports where people are killed are fun?

Well, after some of the other matches I don't think you can count anyone out.

I'll be rooting for the US, just because of the whole national pride and stuff.

We'll see how it goes.

silly sport...PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED PLAYING!!!!! you get the crap kicked out of you on a daily basis. its a man's sport...not a little thing where you kick a ball....OOOOH BOY IM KICKING A BALL.....WHAT FUN!!!!!!! EXTACTIC!!!
Yeahyeah. Piss off now. We're talking about football now. Not a bar brawl between steroid junkies. Oh, by the way. People have died playing football as well.

Czechs 4:0 USA

Easy. Sure, American players are SEEN as good because they all play in American leagues, and we all know that sucks. (Brad Friedel is an excellent Player though)

And how is american football a god game, the shows lasts 4 hours and the game last one, oh yeah, it's very tactical, get it over the line, You DONT EVEN HAVE TO GET IT DOWN!
And the padding they wear? they should send the Americans football teams to far in their clothing and save some money on Abrams.

silly sport...PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED PLAYING!!!!!

And this is supposed to impress me?

Pfft...

you get the crap kicked out of you on a daily basis. its a man's sport...not a little thing where you kick a ball....OOOOH BOY IM KICKING A BALL.....WHAT FUN!!!!!!! EXTACTIC!!!

Well, that's certainly changed my mind. American Football is now most definitely a sport where you do use your foot alot, and where they do use a proper ball.



Oh...wait...

silly sport...PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED PLAYING!!!!! you get the crap kicked out of you on a daily basis. its a man's sport...not a little thing where you kick a ball....OOOOH BOY IM KICKING A BALL.....WHAT FUN!!!!!!! EXTACTIC!!!

What exactly is the benefit of being killed playing a SPORT? It does make it silly in a way.

I have played American Football (and Rugby Union) and still find Association Football fun to watch, more so than the American version. (Rugby Union may be the best spectator sport ever, but their world cup is not being played now.)

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And this is supposed to impress me?

Pfft...



Well, that's certainly changed my mind. American Football is now most definitely a sport where you do use your foot alot, and where they do use a proper ball.



Oh...wait...


OK GOO...we are not talking about the same sport...so whats with the proper ball thing...its like saying that baseball isnt a sport becuase they dont use a regulation basketball.....wtf!!?? and it was called football because in the early days of the game....it was a game where most of the time...you kicked it in the air to the other person...not throw and run it...the game has changed...it was correctly named...

:upyours: Nadkor:mp5: :mp5: :sniper:

Hi there.

I must say, what a productive and well thought out first post. Congratulations; I can see you will have a glowing future here.

I never thought much of football/soccer, but I decided to watch the World Cup, and I must say it is much more interesting than I thought. Some of the games you really get into.

I like American football too. But does it really matter which one is better? More than one sport can exist in the world.

What exactly is the benefit of being killed playing a SPORT? It does make it silly in a way.

I have played American Football (and Rugby Union) and still find Association Football fun to watch, more so than the American version. (Rugby Union may be the best spectator sport ever, but their world cup is not being played now.)



not the point...its not a "silly sport," its a hard game where you need more strength and endurance to fend off a 500 lb lineman so you gont get pummled into the dirt. Where as your "silly sport" all you have to do is runaway from david beckham.

I never thought much of football/soccer, but I decided to watch the World Cup, and I must say it is much more interesting than I thought. Some of the games you really get into.

I like American football too. But does it really matter which one is better? More than one sport can exist in the world.
:)

OK GOO...we are not talking about the same sport...so whats with the proper ball thing...its like saying that baseball isnt a sport becuase they dont use a regulation basketball.....wtf!!??

No, it's nothing like that. First of all I wasn't saying American Football's not a sport, second of all baseball uses a proper ball. You know, a sphere. So the name is accurate.

American Football doesn't use a proper ball, so the name is inaccurate.

and it was called football because in the early days of the game....it was a game where most of the time...you kicked it in the air to the other person...not throw and run it...the game has changed...it was correctly named...

So, you agree that the name is inaccurate for the game as it is currently played?

I never thought much of football/soccer, but I decided to watch the World Cup, and I must say it is much more interesting than I thought. Some of the games you really get into.

I like American football too. But does it really matter which one is better? More than one sport can exist in the world.


this...is true...just soccer cant be in the fray...its a game for 6 year olds until they grow up and realize there are other sports...more interesting ones...

No, it's nothing like that. First of all I wasn't saying American Football's not a sport, second of all baseball uses a proper ball. You know, a sphere. So the name is accurate.

American Football doesn't use a proper ball, so the name is inaccurate.



So, you agree that the name is inaccurate for the game as it is currently played?


hell yeah... but why change 100 years of tradition

not the point...its not a "silly sport," its a hard game where you need more strength and endurance to fend off a 500 lb lineman so you gont get pummled into the dirt. Where as your "silly sport" all you have to do is runaway from david beckham.

LOL. I was a lineman, and we don't quite make it to 500lbs. Now no one is making you watch football, so run off now and play with a truck or something, if that is what you find fun.

[QUOTE=Nadkor]No, it's nothing like that. First of all I wasn't saying American Football's not a sport, second of all baseball uses a proper ball. You know, a sphere. So the name is accurate.

American Football doesn't use a proper ball, so the name is inaccurate.


its a proper ball for the game being played...

this...is true...just soccer cant be in the fray...its a game for 6 year olds until they grow up and realize there are other sports...more interesting ones...
yes there are more interesting games than soccer, its called football

and as far as American football goes, taking turns with the ball, play stopping every 10 seconds, and seeing fat people ram each other

how fun

LOL. I was a lineman, and we don't quite make it to 500lbs. Now no one is making you watch football, so run off now and play with a truck or something, if that is what you find fun.


im not gonna lie...trucks are fun...


are you trying to dis trucks??? that aint right...

this...is true...just soccer cant be in the fray...its a game for 6 year olds until they grow up and realize there are other sports...more interesting ones...

Well, I personally think golf, tennis, etc. aren't that interesting, but that doesn't make them any less of a sport. Great, you don't like it. That doesn't mean others can't.

Let's all grow up and just watch the game.

Well...

national pride - I'll be pulling for the US of course.

And contrary to other posters in this thread believe, I've been looking forward to the world cup since 2002 when I was waking up at really odd hours of the morning to make sure I didn't miss a thing...and I'm an American. Oh and I don't like American football very much except for college games.

I reckon it will be 3-1 for the Czech, who will then continue to win the group and get kicked out in the next round. :D

And also, I have asked this question before, but why do people feel the need to tell other people that they do not care about football when you are having a separate thread about it? It is going on a cooking-forum just to say that you hate eating... It doesnt make sense to me...:confused:

I think the best thing is to ignore those kind of people. They might go away then.

so anyway...now that our little debate thing that nobody will ever win is over...US is still gonna get killed...

Well...

national pride - I'll be pulling for the US of course.

And contrary to other posters in this thread believe, I've been looking forward to the world cup since 2002 when I was waking up at really odd hours of the morning to make sure I didn't miss a thing...and I'm an American. Oh and I don't like American football very much except for college games.


they're the only real games...college...no money...no steroids..

this...is true...just soccer cant be in the fray...its a game for 6 year olds until they grow up and realize there are other sports...more interesting ones...

Well, if you find 10 seconds of action followed by 2 minutes of waiting around for the next 10 seconds of action interesting, then watch American Football all you want.

Personally, I prefer Rubgy Union over them all. 40 minutes of action, maybe punctuated with one or two 10 second stops, followed by a 10 minute half time, followed by another 40 minutes. Best spectator sport in the world.

Please people, let's not make this a Football (or soccer, if you must) vs. American Football discussion, you can do that in another thread, this is about the upcoming Czech Republic vs. USA match. If you don't like ASSOCIATION football, I don't see what you're doing in a thread about it. Anyway, association football IS more popular in the world than American football, so there. :p

Anyway, the Czechs were my favourite team in the EC 2004, they should've won it instead of Greece (but still good work from the Greeks). They should beat the USA, although I'm not familiar with the latter team. Let's hope for a riveting match.

oh...

and by the way.

Half of the American team plays in Europe.

oh...

and by the way.

Half of the American team plays in Europe.

Don't many of the people from other teams play in America?

Wow... 1-0 already. lol

My money is on the Czechs to win it, although I seriously doubt the USA will go down without one hell of a fight

Ooh as I write this the Czechs just scored:P

GOOOOOAAALL!!!!! Go KollergoKoller!!!:)

Don't many of the people from other teams play in America?
Like who? The Brazilians?

Don't many of the people from other teams play in America?

Wow... 1-0 already. lol

hell if I know, I was just commenting in response to the previous poster who said no one on our team plays anywhere.

and it's one goal...one. there's still 83 more minutes as I write this.

and I didn't say I expect to win...just that I'm pulling for the US anyway - come on, national pride.

Don't many of the people from other teams play in America?


Well, uhm... no.

Maybe of dubious teams ithout any chance (T&T?), but of the real teamsj, I dont think any of the current players play in the US.

Lol, I wasn't stating that as a fact. That's why it was a question.

Like I said, this World Cup is my first time really watching. I just thought I heard in other games that the announcers mentioned certain players playing in the US. I don't know which teams though.

Team USA is going to get nailed. It's just a question of how important the Czech team thinks their goal-difference is going to be.

Oooooohh...damn....

Damn. 2-0.

Gooooaaaall!!!!! RosinskyRosinsky!!!!

I said Rosicky bites. 2 - 0

USA is being slaughtered

After what I've seen tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA won 12-0.
Dream on!!!!:) Czechia!!!Czechia!!!

Dream on!!!!:) Czechia!!!Czechia!!!

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Czechs score 5 or 6 in this match...

Shit!!! Koller is injured and must be changed.:(

USA is being slaughtered

Did you not expect that to happen?

Did you not expect that to happen?
I did, but some people din't

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Czechs score 5 or 6 in this match...

Okay - Koller is out, so it might not end up QUITE that one-sided.

Okay - Koller is out, so it might not end up QUITE that one-sided.

It will if we keep playing like fucking ass. :mad:

It will if we keep playing like fucking ass. :mad:

3 reasonable shots, just over half the possession, versus 4 reasonable shots that turned into 2 goals.

USA just isn't playing aggressively enough. (Look at how many times the Czechs have been cited for offside).

But - the real problem is... sad though it is - the USA just isn't showing as a worldclass team...

3 reasonable shots, just over half the possession, versus 4 reasonable shots that turned into 2 goals.

USA just isn't playing aggressively enough. (Look at how many times the Czechs have been cited for offside).

But - the real problem is... sad though it is - the USA just isn't showing as a worldclass team...

Reyna's shot off the post had me falling to my knees and wailing. :(

Reyna's shot off the post had me falling to my knees and wailing. :(

It's sad - but I think that might have been the best moment. I actually kind of wanted the US to progress, because (real) football is the sport the whole world plays, and most of the US is pouting in a corner about it. At least a second-round progression would attract some attention. :(

if the Czezh Republic win 2-0 i win £5 *does a little dance*

It's sad - but I think that might have been the best moment. I actually kind of wanted the US to progress, because (real) football is the sport the whole world plays, and most of the US is pouting in a corner about it. At least a second-round progression would attract some attention. :(

:fluffle: It aint over 'till its over...

There are still two matches to go, so you may still have a chance. I dont think Italy will be the Czech either, so if you do well against them (which is a very, very big IF), you might still make it to the second round...:rolleyes:

oooh poborsky just over with a wonder-attempt

if the Czezh Republic win 2-0 i win £5 *does a little dance*

In this half, the Czechs have had 4 decent shots on goal (to zero from the US).. and they were robbed on one of those.

I think you'll have to be lucky to get a 2-0 result. The Czechs are even more aggressive this half than in the first.

:fluffle: It aint over 'till its over...

There are still two matches to go, so you may still have a chance. I dont think Italy will be the Czech either, so if you do well against them (which is a very, very big IF), you might still make it to the second round...:rolleyes:

Well - I never set much hope in the US for THIS game, anyway. They might beat Ghana... but so should Italy and the Czechs.

At the moment, it's looking like Czechs are the fave, Italy second, and whichever wins the US/Ghana match in third.

I suspect that the Czechs will go 3-0, and Ghana will go 0-3. If so, then whoever wins the US-Italy match comes in second.

And... goal for the Czechs. :(

Fuck.

this is shocking stuff from the yanks.

beesly should be sent home for that performance.

never thought they would be disorganised and unintersted.

there goes the 5 pounds...

Fuck.

They think it's all over...

It is now. (Well, pretty much).

And... goal for the Czechs. :(
*dances*

Well - I never set much hope in the US for THIS game, anyway. They might beat Ghana... but so should Italy and the Czechs.

At the moment, it's looking like Czechs are the fave, Italy second, and whichever wins the US/Ghana match in third.

Actually, I think Italy wont beat Ghana tonight. Just because there hasnt been any surprising result yet. I am betting 1-1 for that match.
And I reckon they will also manage to get a draw against the Czech, while the US and the Czech will be able to beat Ghana. Then finally, the only important match in this group is Italy-US: 2-0
Final outcome:
Czech, 7 points
Italy, 5 points
US, 3 points
Ghana, 1 point

:cool:

3-0 to the champions...

this is shocking stuff from the yanks.

beesly should be sent home for that performance.

never thought they would be disorganised and unintersted.

Beasley's got no business being on the pitch. Worthless shite.

Come on, USA - I predicted a 3:1 loss for'em and they still owe me that one goal!!!http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/fussball.jpg

Too little, too late from the USA team. Three shots on goal in the last 20 minutes - and little or no serious defence against the third Czech goal.

Most partial match in the entire world cup...entirely for the Czechs

It's an opinion

id be surprised if he features again, hauled off at half time has to smart.

no disgrace in losing to the czechs, but the US performance was dogshit.

my lord, we were awful today... made the Czechs look like world-beaters instead of the AARP squad they really are.

hehe

Also:

The FIFA World Rankings aren't worth the paper they're written on. There are too many obvious discrepancies -- USA and Mexico ranked ahead of Italy, England, Germany, Portugal and Spain, for instance... Czech Republic #2 when they took second in their qualifying group... etc. -- for them to be taken seriously by any knowledgeable soccer fan.

It's over.

We've got no bloody midfield. :(

All over. Never close.

What are the odds Team USA can beat Italy?

Pretty slim?

Beasley and Convey had no right to be on the pitch today.

just have to win against Italy and Ghana now.
-_-

Wow, Australia doesn't really care about Football either, but at least we put in the effort guys. That was a terribly one-sided game. Like watching Bruce Lee beat up a terminal cancer patient.

No-one has won the world cup without winning their first game...

Gotta happen sometime, right?







Nah.

All over. Never close.

What are the odds Team USA can beat Italy?

Pretty slim?
nonexsistent

oh wait, maybe a metioritie hits the stadium, kills the Italians, and play resumes, letting the US take a shot against an open net

All over. Never close.

What are the odds Team USA can beat Italy?

Pretty slim?

Italy are among the favorites to win the World Cup. It would take a miracle for the USA to beat them. If the USA play like they did today, Italy will rape them.

Listening to the US announcers makes me want to vomit. They are so biased its ridiculous. I think it hurts the game for the fans when they are subjected to this dribble. They mess up calls all the time too.

If I have to hear how beatable Italy is again from them, I will hurl.

All over. Never close.

What are the odds Team USA can beat Italy?

Pretty slim?

It depends on whether this match was a horrible fluke or a sign of things to come. I really hope that it's the former...

...I should probably start rooting for England or Germany, so that I can keep rooting into the second round. :(

Wow, Australia doesn't really care about Football either, but at least we put in the effort guys. That was a terribly one-sided game. Like watching Bruce Lee beat up a terminal cancer patient.

Messy. Patchy. Undecided play. Didn't really commit to an offense OR defense.

The USA basically lost because they didn't play 'World Cup' football.

nonexsistent

oh wait, maybe a metioritie hits the stadium, kills the Italians, and play resumes, letting the US take a shot against an open net

You think they'd manage a draw.... ;)

Listening to the US announcers makes me want to vomit. They are so biased its ridiculous. I think it hurts the game for the fans when they are subjected to this dribble. They mess up calls all the time too.

If I have to hear how beatable Italy is again from them, I will hurl.

yes, Italy are so beatable, they haven't lost in 18 games.

That includes a 4-1 pimping of Germany and a 3-1 victory over Holland, in Amsterdam (or Rotterdam).

You think they'd manage a draw.... ;)
i dunno

Italian corpses are among the best in undead football

Messy. Patchy. Undecided play. Didn't really commit to an offense OR defense.

The USA basically lost because they didn't play football.

Fixed. We sucked.

Beasley and Convey had no right to be on the pitch today.

just have to win against Italy and Ghana now.
-_-

..might as well add winning the Powerball lottery to that dream list.

The USA cannot lose another game if they want to get out of the tournemant, and barring major injuries to Italy's main players (although Italy's second team could have beaten us 2-0 today), we aren't going to be nearly good enough to beat Italy.
I knew that ranking was an absolute fluke. We're more like 15th than 5th.

It depends on whether this match was a horrible fluke or a sign of things to come. I really hope that it's the former...

...I should probably start rooting for England or Germany, so that I can keep rooting into the second round. :(

I'd root for Brazil, rather than England...

I'd root for Brazil, rather than England...
I'd root for Nazi Germany before those two

It depends on whether this match was a horrible fluke or a sign of things to come. I really hope that it's the former...

...I should probably start rooting for England or Germany, so that I can keep rooting into the second round. :(

It was not a fluke, but the Czech team is one of the best in the world at the moment. They are likely to win the group ahead of Italy. I really don't see any chance of the USA making it out of the group phase, so you really should choose a second team to root for. (The czechs would not be a bad one at that)

3:0 for Czech. I think they'll make the best achievement of the WC so far today.

Call me your master ;)

Fixed. We sucked.

True. It would have been okay against another US team... but against top division players from other nations? Just not in the same league.

I'd root for Nazi Germany before those two

Should I stste the obvious in response to that?

see the white text.

Of course you would, you are an Argentine

;)

if the Czezh Republic win 2-0 i win £5 *does a little dance*

Yay, TInk! :) How long have you been back?

I was predicting 2-0 for the Czechs as well. I keep telling everyone not to underestimate them, and then I do just that myself.


my lord, we were awful today... made the Czechs look like world-beaters instead of the AARP squad they really are.

The Czechs are world-beaters, or pretty damn close. They'll make it at least to the quarter-finals.

And tomorrow... La France joue contre la Suisse! :)

I'd root for Nazi Germany before those two

Well, being Limey by birth, I'd love to root for England... but they just are not going to get there.

Brazil, on the other hand, are pretty good shots for semis.

Good Lord. So much said about something that matters so little.

Don't you people know that over 400 people are still detained in Guantanamo Bay without any proof of their guilt ever having been exposed to public scrutiny?

Ohh .. go away and enjoy your silly games while real life carries on without you .....

By Franberry: I'd root for Nazi Germany before those two
Yeah. Since exactly one day I'm an active person on this forum.
I expected to hear anything about Nazi Germany. Tell me, guy, how stupid are you?
Man.... I could spam the whole forum when I hear that shit... but I probably won't... travel to Germany. Persuade yourself of your "Nazi Germany". And don't use this term for today's Germany ever again.

Yay, TInk! :) How long have you been back?

I was predicting 2-0 for the Czechs as well. I keep telling everyone not to underestimate them, and then I do just that myself.



The Czechs are world-beaters, or pretty damn close. They'll make it at least to the quarter-finals.

And tomorrow... La France joue contre la Suisse! :)

the Czechs are going down to Bra in the round of 16, mon ami.

Good Lord. So much said about something that matters so little.

Don't you people know that over 400 people are still detained in Guantanamo Bay without any proof of their guilt ever having been exposed to public scrutiny?

Ohh .. go away and enjoy your silly games while real life carries on without you .....

how dare we detain suspected terrorists?

We should let them out so they can bomb us!

Yeah. Since exactly one day I'm an active person on this forum.
I expected to hear anything about Nazi Germany. Tell me, guy, how stupid are you?
Man.... I could spam the whole forum when I hear that shit... but I probably won't... travel to Germany. Persuade yourself of your "Nazi Germany". And don't use this term for today's Germany ever again.
ok buddy I said that I would rather root for Nazi Germany rather than Brazil or England

I did not call the Germany of today Nazi, I said "Nazi Germany" as in the country that exsisted btw 1933 to 1945.
I said this because Brazil and England are the biggest rivals of my country when it comes to football, and that I would rather root for Nazi Germany than those two

Good Lord. So much said about something that matters so little.

Don't you people know that over 400 people are still detained in Guantanamo Bay without any proof of their guilt ever having been exposed to public scrutiny?

Ohh .. go away and enjoy your silly games while real life carries on without you .....

Oh, for goodness' sake... You don't actually know any of us, do you? I know I've not been around much recently, but my posts in this forum should make you realise (if your apparently limited mind is capable) that we can discuss serious topics without it preventing us from having a little fun on the sides.

Maybe the concept of not having a one-track mind is too complex for you to grasp.

sorry about that, but i can't stand people whining about the plight of terrorists.

ok buddy I said that I would rather root for Nazi Germany rather than Brazil or England

I did not call the Germany of today Nazi, I said "Nazi Germany" as in the country that exsisted btw 1933 to 1945.
I said this because Brazil and England are the biggest rivals of my country when it comes to football, and that I would rather root for Nazi Germany than those two
OK... I'm very sorry, I totally misunderstood you. You see, I can be very susceptible with that.
I'm sorry, buddy

the Czechs are going down to Bra in the round of 16, mon ami.

Nah. Italy will face Brazil (and lose) in the round of 16. Unless the US or Ghana manage an upset or two and qualify (and then lose to Brazil). The Czechs will top their group and face Croatia (and win).

3-0 for the Czechs
I'm good:p

3-0 to the champions...
Champions?

OK... I'm very sorry, I totally misunderstood you. You see, I can be very susceptible with that.
I'm sorry, buddy
s'ok, you just misunderstood, if you my statement out of context, it can be intrepeted horribly
it happens

Nah. Italy will face Brazil (and lose) in the round of 16. Unless the US or Ghana manage an upset or two and qualify (and then lose to Brazil). The Czechs will top their group and face Croatia (and win).

Now you know the World Cup does something strange to people. It has just got me, an Anglo-Brazilian, to agree completely with someone from France.

sorry about that, but i can't stand people whining about the plight of terrorists.


Was anyone whining about the plight of terrorists? Can't say I saw anything like that .... unless you actually believe the horse-sh*t that Bush/Cheney & Rumsfeld feed you poor Americans .....

Good Lord. So much said about something that matters so little.

Don't you people know that over 400 people are still detained in Guantanamo Bay without any proof of their guilt ever having been exposed to public scrutiny?

Ohh .. go away and enjoy your silly games while real life carries on without you .....
Shut up. We're talking here about stuff that realy matters. Stop spamming.

Hey, I have an idea if you don't like football or the World Cup, simply don't post on a FOOTBALL/WORLD CUP forum! :mad: don't be dinks.

As for the rest of us, I think we all knew the Czechs would win and it wasn't a fascinating game. I was surprised the US was ranked so high!!! On the other hand, maybe it will raise the profile of MLS and that's cool. Canada doesn't even make it... sigh.

So, Up England!!!!

Now you know the World Cup does something strange to people. It has just got me, an Anglo-Brazilian, to agree completely with someone from France.

Maybe that's because I'm Anglo-French. Or it could just be the magic of football. :p

Was anyone whining about the plight of terrorists? Can't say I saw anything like that .... unless you actually believe the horse-sh*t that Bush/Cheney & Rumsfeld feed you poor Americans .....
please stop triying to politice a thread that should be about football, start one on how brainwashed people are or whatever

Ohh .... but this IS about football ...... and how much of the world's attention, emotion, interest and money it gets .... when there are so many more things much more worthwhile of even a moment's passing indignation ....

Ohh .... but this IS about football ...... and how much of the world's attention, emotion, interest and money it gets .... when there are so many more things much more worthwhile of even a moment's passing indignation ....
because the other stuff is boring/to sad/worries people/others dont care/whatever

so football is here to be amusing

Was anyone whining about the plight of terrorists? Can't say I saw anything like that .... unless you actually believe the horse-sh*t that Bush/Cheney & Rumsfeld feed you poor Americans .....

Go away, start your own thread, nobody wants to hear your political whinning in this one.

Good Lord. So much said about something that matters so little.
Don't you people know that over 400 people are still detained in Guantanamo Bay without any proof of their guilt ever having been exposed to public scrutiny?
Ohh .. go away and enjoy your silly games while real life carries on without you .....
This has nothing to do with this Fußball thread: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/yellowcard.gif

Was anyone whining about the plight of terrorists? Can't say I saw anything like that .... unless you actually believe the horse-sh*t that Bush/Cheney & Rumsfeld feed you poor Americans .....
And you're out: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/redcard.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/fussball.jpg

Does any one know how FIFA come up with their rankings? Is it based on scrabble or do they just pick names out of a hat?

I hope America (not that they will, there's no way they'll beat Italy) do better because then people in the US might realise what real football is. I'm also hoping for a US v Iran game although that would mean Iran doing well which I don't want.

Does any one know how FIFA come up with their rankings? Is it based on scrabble or do they just pick names out of a hat?

I hope America (not that they will, there's no way they'll beat Italy) do better because then people in the US might realise what real football is. I'm also hoping for a US v Iran game although that would mean Iran doing well which I don't want.
It's explained on the Fifa site, but you need a Master's degree in evereything to understand it.

To indicate just how badly the USA did, I have Peter Cech in one of my fantasy teams and he managed a grand total of 0 points. (No saves made, no goals conceded)

Ohh .... but this IS about football ...... and how much of the world's attention, emotion, interest and money it gets .... when there are so many more things much more worthwhile of even a moment's passing indignation ....
Yeah. Your right. My fridge is broke and all of my beers are lukewarm now.
Thats more importand then your whining.

Most Americans don't give a flying crap about FIFA. We're more into baseball, American football, basketball and hockey. But soccer/football? No.

Im starting to wonder if the US can play with the big boys. I dont know if they can play football with the Europeans. Maybe they should go back to playing in the MLS or American football before some gets hurt. Germany made Costa Rica look as bad as the Czechs made the Americans look, but at least the Costa Ricans scored, twice.

Edit: They dont have a chance against the Italians

Im starting to wonder if the US can play with the big boys. I dont know if they can play football with the Europeans. Maybe they should go back to playing in the MLS or American football before some gets hurt. Germany made Costa Rica look as bad as the Czechs made the Americans look, but at least the Costa Ricans scored, twice.

Edit: They dont have a chance against the Italians
They wouldn't have a chance against Ghana.:D

What are the odds Team USA can beat Italy?

Pretty slim?better odds than against the Chekz.
a Tie is my bet.

better odds than against the Chekz.
a Tie is my bet.
I think that they will also lose against Italy

but probably at the very least get a tie with Ghana

I am a rugby league fan, I play rugby league, write about rugby league and help run a rugby league club.

I will be enjoying the FIFA World Cup as the greatest sports tournement on Earth. To refuse to appreciate it out of sporting parochialism would be bizarre.

I cannot see the Czech Republic getting that far, but we will see soon enough.

Does any one know how FIFA come up with their rankings? . USA ranking is gross..
Maybe FIFA wants to trick US into beleiving we got a shot.
And since we are very "gullible" some fell for it..

evidence most of US are gullible: most trust everything FOX/CNN say.

I thought this was about football... how'd politics get in here?

USA ranking is gross..
Maybe FIFA wants to trick US into beleiving we got a shot.
And since we are very "gullible" some fell for it..

evidence most of US are gullible: most trust everything FOX/CNN say.
please stop dragging politics in here

I think that they will also lose against Italy

but probably at the very least get a tie with Ghana

I can't see how they could NOT lose to Italy... despite ESPN talking about how the USA team will be 'more aggressive'.

Italy have to be one of the VERY best teams in the world.

USA? Not so much.

And - considering how Ghana have been playing against Italy (just over 30 minutes, possession dead-even, near misses on both sides - advantage to Italian aggression)... it is entirely possible that the USA/Czech match is the PATTERN for the USA World Cup hopes... not the exception.

Im starting to wonder if the US can play with the big boys.

Well - I was going to say maybe they could hold their own against the little guys - but just look at the mess they made playing in Iraq .....

Italy won. Now as long as Switzerland beat France I'll be happy.

I think that they will also lose against Italy

but probably at the very least get a tie with Ghana

Italy is do or die for the U.S. Only one team has gotten out of group play after losing their first game. U.S. needs 3 pts. against Italy. A tie against Italy and a win over Ghana won't get them to the next round.

Czech Republic won. Thats so good.

Well - I was going to say maybe they could hold their own against the little guys - but just look at the mess they made playing in Iraq .....
:D

All American fans should be disgusted at this game. Only two players came ready to play, Johnson and Reyna. Everyone else on the squad was tenative, scared, and afraid to be agressive in any faset of the game. If the squad doesn't get their act together agaisnt Ghana and Italy, they will leave the tourny without wins and goals. This was an abolsutely pitiful performance from a squad that was projected to do so much more.

Hey, I have an idea if you don't like football or the World Cup, simply don't post on a FOOTBALL/WORLD CUP forum! don't be dinks.

Well, this isn't a footy/world cup forum. It's the general forum for a political simulation. You can expect some political posts on any topic posted, especially if it involves nationalist feelings or the US. And since this thread does both...

I thought this was about football... how'd politics get in here?

Welcome to NationStates, where absolutely EVERYTHING is political, especially if it involves the USA.

Well, this isn't a footy/world cup forum. It's the general forum for a political simulation. You can expect some political posts on any topic posted, especially if it involves nationalist feelings or the US. And since this thread does both...


General does not mean general politics. There are enough political threads out there, which most of us contribute to. Is it really too much to ask to allow a thread to exist for each game in the World Cup without it being spammed up with political propoganda and political wisecracks? I hope not.

Well, this isn't a footy/world cup forum. It's the general forum for a political simulation. You can expect some political posts on any topic posted, especially if it involves nationalist feelings or the US. And since this thread does both...



Welcome to NationStates, where absolutely EVERYTHING is political, especially if it involves the USA.

I suppose I am naive to believe that politics can stayed canned outside of sports...

That's probably why the separation of church and state really doesn't exist...

Well I'm not a soccer fan at all but I've watched a few games thus far, and I was sad to see US lose. Though I have no clue who has good teams besides Brazil. Any matches that you would recomend watching?

I can't see how they could NOT lose to Italy... despite ESPN talking about how the USA team will be 'more aggressive'.

Italy have to be one of the VERY best teams in the world.

USA? Not so much.

And - considering how Ghana have been playing against Italy (just over 30 minutes, possession dead-even, near misses on both sides - advantage to Italian aggression)... it is entirely possible that the USA/Czech match is the PATTERN for the USA World Cup hopes... not the exception.


I think you're reading far too much into the match. The major problem today was a lack of defensive concentration and a lack of fighting spirit. Don't mistake that for a lack of skill. I'm not one to tell you the U.S. is one of the best teams in the world, but we can compete with and beat anyone on our day. Let's see how the squad comes out against Italy. I think we have a good chance.
I personally think our media and pretty much everyone outside the Czech Republic has underrated the Czechs in a big way. People were buying into that propaganda the Czech management was putting out about how, "we're old and injured". The fact of the matter is that they're one of the most balanced teams in the world from what I can tell. I think this was our toughest match.
I'm hoping for a better effort and a win against Italy. That would really throw a wrench in the Group E works.

Well I'm not a soccer fan at all but I've watched a few games thus far, and I was sad to see US lose. Though I have no clue who has good teams besides Brazil. Any matches that you would recomend watching?


Try to watch Holland, Argentina, Spain....


Or just pick a match and watch it. You're bound to see some top quality football. The teams playing are the elite of the elite.

Well I'm not a soccer fan at all but I've watched a few games thus far, and I was sad to see US lose. Though I have no clue who has good teams besides Brazil. Any matches that you would recomend watching?

Spain vs Ukraine on Wednesday should be a good one. Spain are one of the top European sides, and the Ukraine were the first side from Europe to qualify. This should be the match that decides who finishes first and who finishes second in group H.

There are two different types of games tomorrow. Brazil vs Croatia should be comfortable for Brazil, and a chance for them to show off a little - might be fun - then there will be a tough match between two neighbours - France and Switzerland. This is likely to be a cagey affair, much more tactical and defence minded. Both are going to be worth seeing, but they will be very different.

I personally think our media and pretty much everyone outside the Czech Republic has underrated the Czechs in a big way. People were buying into that propaganda the Czech management was putting out about how, "we're old and injured". The fact of the matter is that they're one of the most balanced teams in the world from what I can tell. I think this was our toughest match.

I can tell you that the Czech team is not underestimated in most of the world. They are on most pundits short list of teams for the semi-finals maybe further. It may have been your toughest match, but the difference between the Czech Rep and Italy in ability is a matter of opinion, and Ghana are not far behind. However we will all see. If the results could be decided by press or public opinion, there would be no need for the matches.

General does not mean general politics. There are enough political threads out there, which most of us contribute to. Is it really too much to ask to allow a thread to exist for each game in the World Cup without it being spammed up with political propoganda and political wisecracks? I hope not.

I'm just pointing out that it's the nature of the beast, much like the unending threads on politics. And, yeah, I think it's probably too much to ask of some people (particularly the US bashers). They just can't resist. That's why they pop into anything related to the US and try to slime the thread.

I suppose I am naive to believe that politics can stayed canned outside of sports...

That's probably why the separation of church and state really doesn't exist...

I suspect church and state separation is much easier than international sport and the national pride which brings in the politics...

I think you're reading far too much into the match. The major problem today was a lack of defensive concentration and a lack of fighting spirit. Don't mistake that for a lack of skill. I'm not one to tell you the U.S. is one of the best teams in the world, but we can compete with and beat anyone on our day. Let's see how the squad comes out against Italy. I think we have a good chance.
I personally think our media and pretty much everyone outside the Czech Republic has underrated the Czechs in a big way. People were buying into that propaganda the Czech management was putting out about how, "we're old and injured". The fact of the matter is that they're one of the most balanced teams in the world from what I can tell. I think this was our toughest match.
I'm hoping for a better effort and a win against Italy. That would really throw a wrench in the Group E works.

Exactly so. Well put

I think you're reading far too much into the match. The major problem today was a lack of defensive concentration and a lack of fighting spirit. Don't mistake that for a lack of skill. I'm not one to tell you the U.S. is one of the best teams in the world, but we can compete with and beat anyone on our day. Let's see how the squad comes out against Italy. I think we have a good chance.
I personally think our media and pretty much everyone outside the Czech Republic has underrated the Czechs in a big way. People were buying into that propaganda the Czech management was putting out about how, "we're old and injured". The fact of the matter is that they're one of the most balanced teams in the world from what I can tell. I think this was our toughest match.
I'm hoping for a better effort and a win against Italy. That would really throw a wrench in the Group E works.


Our media tends to overrate the US team, which is why there are the above opinions.

USA played like crap. They really did deserve to lose.

USA played like crap. They really did deserve to lose.

Cripes, based on how we played yesterday, I'm not sure how we even made it out of CONCACAF on top.

Cripes, based on how we played yesterday, I'm not sure how we even made it out of CONCACAF on top.

Agreed. That had to be the worst soccer I have ever seen from team USA in quite sometime.

Agreed. That had to be the worst soccer I have ever seen in quite sometime.

Fixed for accuracy. Frankly, I'm disgusted.

Cripes, based on how we played yesterday, I'm not sure how we even made it out of CONCACAF on top.
Because there are only shitty teams in your region? (apart from Mexico)

Because there are only shitty teams in your region? (apart from Mexico)

I wouldn't call Costa Rica a crappy team. They do play pretty well. Not to mention Trinidad & Tobago actually played pretty well.

Because there are only shitty teams in your region? (apart from Mexico)

Point being that I don't even know how we beat the shitty teams after seeing that crap yesterday.

FIFA Ranked 5th USA takes on the team from the Czech Republic.

Who is going to win?

What did the USA team ever do to be in 5th? :rolleyes: The result was as expected...

USA played like crap. They really did deserve to lose.

Don't compliment your team with the ability to contest a game with the Czech Republic. You were out-classed quite simply.

I wouldn't call Costa Rica a crappy team. They do play pretty well. Not to mention Trinidad & Tobago actually played pretty well.

Hmmm. Costa Rica scored twice against an awful German defence, and Trinidad and Tobago weres o caught up in defending that theyr never actually attacked properly.

Don't compliment your team with the ability to contest a game with the Czech Republic. You were out-classed quite simply.

Excuse me but where did I compliment my team? I think I distinctly said that they played like crap and that they deserved to lose. Now where is the compliment?

Hmmm. Costa Rica scored twice against an awful German defence, and Trinidad and Tobago weres o caught up in defending that theyr never actually attacked properly.

T-T had their chances of upsetting Sweden and nearly did. The German D was not that bad except for that offside trap they played.

Excuse me but where did I compliment my team? I think I distinctly said that they played like crap and that they deserved to lose. Now where is the compliment?

That, had you played well, you had a chance.

T-T had their chances of upsetting Sweden and nearly did. The German D was not that bad except for that offside trap they played.

The German defence was awful, trust me. As for Trinidad and Tobago, it was the classic case of the overly motivated newcomers.

That, had you played well, you had a chance.

Which is a truth believe it or not. But you being a true european never gives the US a chance. Wait till we beat Italy. Oh wait. Then you'll say that Italy played like crap and that the US should've lost.

Excuse me but where did I compliment my team? I think I distinctly said that they played like crap and that they deserved to lose. Now where is the compliment?

The USA needs Ghana not to get any points and Italy to choke while the Czechs win all their other games. Italy looked good against Ghana and Ghana didn't play actually badly at all.

The German defence was awful, trust me. As for Trinidad and Tobago, it was the classic case of the overly motivated newcomers.

Well that is your opinion. Maybe they are better than you give them credit for.

Which is a truth believe it or not. But you being a true european never gives the US a chance. Wait till we beat Italy. Oh wait. Then you'll say that Italy played like crap and that the US should've lost.

YOU WON'T ITALY. Quite frankly, Italy were awesome last night without a fully fit Totti, with a fully fit Totti they will massacre you.

Well that is your opinion. Maybe they are better than you give them credit for.

They're awful. They have a smattering of pace and premiership retirees, and little else.

YOU WON'T ITALY. Quite frankly, Italy were awesome last night without a fully fit Totti, with a fully fit Totti they will massacre you.

And Team USA will be a different team than they were yesterday. Mark my words, it will not be an easy game for Italy.

They're awful. They have a smattering of pace and premiership retirees, and little else.

HAHAHA!!!

And yet they tied Sweden despite being a man down and nearly defeated the Swedes as well.

HAHAHA!!!

And yet they tied Sweden despite being a man down and nearly defeated the Swedes as well.

How often do you watch football. No team wants to play against ten men, they simply defend until the end of the match.

How often do you watch football. No team wants to play against ten men, they simply defend until the end of the match.

Seems to me Sweden was doing all the attacking and T-T doing the defending. Not my fault you seemed to miss that.

And Team USA will be a different team than they were yesterday. Mark my words, it will not be an easy game for Italy.
How mcuh different will it be?

They're gonna be demoralized and unmotivated, having seen their fate

OR

They're gonna give it they're all, trying to reverse their probable elimination

And Team USA will be a different team than they were yesterday. Mark my words, it will not be an easy game for Italy.

Yes it will. USA are a team and nothing more. Italy have got truly wolrd class players, and a nasty defence.

Yes it will. USA are a team and nothing more. Italy have got truly wolrd class players, and a nasty defence.

Continue to believe that when USA defeats Italy 1-0.

Seems to me Sweden was doing all the attacking and T-T doing the defending. Not my fault you seemed to miss that.

My point precisely. A team with ten men will defend for the rest of the match.

Continue to believe that when USA defeats Italy 1-0.

You are joking of course.

Continue to believe that when USA defeats Italy 1-0.
hahahahahahaha... *breaths* ...hahahahahahahaha.
Good one :p

My point precisely. A team with ten men will defend for the rest of the match.

And yet they nearly won the game. To bad that ball struck the near post and not into the net.

You are joking of course.

Who said I was joking?

Continue to believe that when USA defeats Italy 1-0.
:D :D :D :D :D :D

My point precisely. A team with ten men will defend for the rest of the match.

And a striker gets removed for a defender. Great if you're 1-0 or 1-1, but not much good if you're 1-3 down.

The German defence was awful, trust me. As for Trinidad and Tobago, it was the classic case of the overly motivated newcomers.
It's what happens if you play overly agressive offensive. Just ask the Brazilians.

Continue to believe that when USA defeats Italy 1-0.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

It's what happens if you play overly agressive offensive. Just ask the Brazilians.

The difference being that the Brazilians have Ronaldo, Adriano, Robinho, Kaka and Ronaldinho:p

The difference being that the Brazilians have Ronaldo, Adriano, Robinho, Kaka and Ronaldinho:p
We have Poldi, Schweini, Lahmi and Balli. More then enough to crush the Poles tomorrow.

We have Poldi, Schweini, Lahmi and Balli. More then enough to crush the Poles tomorrow.

Whilst I do know who all of the above are, I nonetheless find the affectionate spellings disturbing:p

I hope you do. I don't want to face Germany in the second round.

And not forget Miro. Who scored half of the goals against CR.

Continue to believe that when USA defeats Italy 1-0.
Corneliu, that's really too much. The US has a chance, but Italy is the clear favourite.

I'm trying to be as impartial as possible here. The biggest problem the US football team has is that it is a bit... well, provincial. All the good and excellent teams are located somewhere else. You can't get better if for your usual opponents are Nicaragua or Haiti. South America has two excellent teams (Brazil and Argentina) and several good ones (Uruguay, Paraguay, Columbia). Europe also has some excellent teams and many good ones. North America has no excellent teams and just a few good ones. The competition is much less intense there, compared with Europe or South America. To give just an example, Romania defeated the Czech Repulic 2-0 and yet didn't qualify (we had a draw with Armenia which cost us two points). Unless the competiton in the CONCACAF area gets more intense, the US team has no chance in hell of becoming trully the 5th best team in the world.

Edit: and the only way I see the US winning is if Italy scores an early goal, then concentrates only on defending and makes a mistakes, thus getting a late goal in the match. So it certainly won't be 1-0 for America.

Whilst I do know who all of the above are, I nonetheless find the affectionate spellings disturbing:p
:D

I hope you do. I don't want to face Germany in the second round.
Aww. Why not?

Continue to believe that when USA defeats Italy 1-0.
right after the injury of half the Italian team in a tragic bratwurst accident

:D


Aww. Why not?

Because England would beat you, duh!

Because England would beat you, duh!
Oh? Hows that?

Oh? Hows that?
*psst*

I think he lives in a crazy parallel world were the English fottball team is gonna do well

Oh? Hows that?

A joke. I am fully aware of quite how well the current England team manages to underachieve.

I think you're reading far too much into the match. The major problem today was a lack of defensive concentration and a lack of fighting spirit. Don't mistake that for a lack of skill. I'm not one to tell you the U.S. is one of the best teams in the world, but we can compete with and beat anyone on our day. Let's see how the squad comes out against Italy. I think we have a good chance.
I personally think our media and pretty much everyone outside the Czech Republic has underrated the Czechs in a big way. People were buying into that propaganda the Czech management was putting out about how, "we're old and injured". The fact of the matter is that they're one of the most balanced teams in the world from what I can tell. I think this was our toughest match.
I'm hoping for a better effort and a win against Italy. That would really throw a wrench in the Group E works.

I admire your spirit... but "we can compete with and beat anyone on our day" would only be true if the opposition were NOT having 'their day'.

There are certain teams that 'have it', and certain teams that don't. Italy 'has it'. The US doesn't.

As an ex-Englishman, I have vague recollections that, once upon a time, England 'had it'. Now... not so much.

We just have to get used to the fact that, while it is nice of the World Cup hosts to let us come and kick a ball around in their backyard.. it's a kindness. The US is there as very much a second-tier team.

Oh? Hows that?

5 -1 ring any bells?

Which is a truth believe it or not. But you being a true european never gives the US a chance. Wait till we beat Italy.....

I have to interrupt you there. Much as I'd LOVE to "Wait till we beat Italy", I only expect to live for another 40 or 50 years...

And Team USA will be a different team than they were yesterday. Mark my words, it will not be an easy game for Italy.

They'll be a different team? Is that LEGAL?

It WOULD be their best chance of a win...

I admire your spirit... but "we can compete with and beat anyone on our day" would only be true if the opposition were NOT having 'their day'.

There are certain teams that 'have it', and certain teams that don't. Italy 'has it'. The US doesn't.
The US is there as very much a second-tier team.
hear hear

If CONCACAF was any harder, the US wouldnt make it

hear hear

If CONCACAF was any harder, the US wouldnt make it

Well - it's true. The Czechs had a pretty good game, but nothing spectacular... it wan't 'their day' - put it that way. And they managed a 3-0 win.

Italy, on a bad day, are STILL one of the very top echelon of teams. The chances of the US beating them are 'fairly slim'.

If I were a gambling man, I wouldn't be putting anything on USA for the win.

Well - it's true. The Czechs had a pretty good game, but nothing spectacular... it wan't 'their day' - put it that way. And they managed a 3-0 win.

Italy, on a bad day, are STILL one of the very top echelon of teams. The chances of the US beating them are 'fairly slim'.

If I were a gambling man, I wouldn't be putting anything on USA for the win.
true, the USA is not gonna make it out of the group stage