Chinese Democracy?
Multiland
11-06-2006, 14:55
I could be wrong, but it appears by searching in ENGLISH on google.cn for topics such as democracy actually produces results (google.cn is a filtered search engine apparently - it's supposed to prevent searches for free speech, democracy, etc.). Check it out first, then if I'm right (ie if websites don't show up when searched in Chinese from China but show up when searched in English), please let your Chinese friends know.
I could be wrong though - it may just be that because I'm searching FROM England, even though I'm searching on the google.cn, the websites are not filtered no matter what language is used.
No, even if you are searching from England, it will filter your results. I've tried.
Jeruselem
11-06-2006, 14:58
Googles sold it's soul to China and changes google.cn the government whims.
Blood has been shed
11-06-2006, 15:01
Googles sold it's soul to China and changes google.cn the government whims.
The options for China are. Filtered google. No google. Ban the internet!!
Multiland
11-06-2006, 15:02
No, even if you are searching from England, it will filter your results. I've tried.
So have I though, in English, and it brought up plenty of stuff about democracy when I searched for it.
Pyschotika
11-06-2006, 15:06
Did you READ any of it?
They could describe Democracy as how THEY run the nation.
Also, the filters do not work completely outside of China. They have hardwire filters in China, while we are out here we can access the Google Server in North America which speaks to China. And that specific server has it's own filters, ie not showing ANYTHING about Tiananmen Square other than 'It is a happy tourist place'.
Jeruselem
11-06-2006, 15:07
The options for China are. Filtered google. No google. Ban the internet!!
True, but China wanted far more control over content accessable to China except they've worked out they don't have that control. Filtering was only other option.
Google.com IS accessible from China.
According to Google, more Chinese people are using the uncensored Google.com then Google.cn.
Guess why.
RLI Returned
11-06-2006, 15:21
Damn, I thought this was a Guns 'n' Roses thread. :(
Google.com IS accessible from China.
According to Google, more Chinese people are using the uncensored Google.com then Google.cn.
Guess why.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5055170.stm
The Chinese government caught on.
Kleptonis
11-06-2006, 18:31
google.cn still censors in English, although they don't take into account English spelling mistakes. For example, take the Tiananmen Square protests.
Type in "Tiananmen" on a google.cn image search, and you get this:
http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&sa=N&tab=wi
Take out the second "n" ("Tianamen"), and you get:
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&q=tianamen&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2
Quite a few more tanks when you misspell it.
PsychoticDan
11-06-2006, 20:04
http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=Tiananmen&btnG=Google+??&meta=
That search led me here: http://www.leeall.net/node/16
How does that happen?
New Zero Seven
11-06-2006, 20:08
I was able to search "democracy" on google.cn and it didn't filter any results for me. But when I typed in "Tiananmen" in image search, it showed nothing. I typed in "student protest china" and I got one image from the Tiananmen protests in 1989. I also tried searching "Falun gong" but it was all anti-Falun Gong websites...
It really depends on the wording on what it filters.
New Burmesia
11-06-2006, 20:35
Of course democracy appears in China, after all, the only parties allowed to be appointed to the NPC are the registered "Democratic" Parties. While Socialism with Chinese Chinese charicteristics is Capitalism, democracy with Chinese characteristsics is dictatorship.
Next Green with chinese characteristics will be red!
Google.cn has some loopholes that you can exploit: loopholes that I think are intentionally there.
Greyenivol Colony
11-06-2006, 21:37
google.cn still censors in English, although they don't take into account English spelling mistakes. For example, take the Tiananmen Square protests.
Type in "Tiananmen" on a google.cn image search, and you get this:
http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&sa=N&tab=wi
Take out the second "n" ("Tianamen"), and you get:
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&q=tianamen&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2
Quite a few more tanks when you misspell it.
That's really quite brilliant, well done!
But don't say it too often... anybody here could be a Chinese Net-spy... o_O
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
11-06-2006, 22:38
Damn, I thought this was a Guns 'n' Roses thread. :(
Me too.
Multiland
15-06-2006, 13:36
google.cn still censors in English, although they don't take into account English spelling mistakes. For example, take the Tiananmen Square protests.
Type in "Tiananmen" on a google.cn image search, and you get this:
http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&sa=N&tab=wi
Take out the second "n" ("Tianamen"), and you get:
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&q=tianamen&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2
Quite a few more tanks when you misspell it.
Let your Chinese friends know!
P.S. I just type in "Tiananmen Square massacre" and the first link was this http://www.leeall.net/node/16
Monkeypimp
15-06-2006, 13:40
Searching on chinese google:
约有283,000,000项符合democracy的查询结果，以下是第1-10项。 （搜索用时 0.09 秒）
Searching on standard google:
Results 1 - 10 of about 256,000,000 for democracy [definition]. (0.07 seconds)
The numbers don't lie :eek: