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Ok Christians. Where is the guide (or, if you please, just summarize for us) the Ranking or ratings of sins. What tops the list, which carries the most minimal punishment?

I'm guessing something like

1. Murder
2. Rape
3. Homosexuality
4. Genocide
5. Pederasty
6. Bestiality
7. Stealing
8. Lying
9. Not believing in Jesus
10. etc etc
...
4,569. Hypocricy (sp?)

The way they talk lately, you've got to figure being gay is way up on the list.

actually I think it's more like

1. Placing your own judgement over God (not to be confused with not listening or taking God's advice but handing out Judgment like you are God.)
2. Placing other gods/idols above God
3. Murder, Rape, Homosexuality, Genocide, Pederasty, Bestiality, Stealing, Lying, Hypocracy, ignoring God, etc

i'd say:

1. Been human
2. Everything else

Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Being atheist
Homosexuality
Homosexuality
Homosexuality


etc..

1. Wearing socks with sandals.

1. Wearing socks with sandals.

Yeah, but that's the case in any culture and/or religion

Well according to Dante's Divine Comedy, the person who has the very worst place in hell, surfing on Satan's toungue for all eternity, is Judas who supposedly betrayed Jesus which would appear to make treason the worst sin. Which is just messed up. How could betraying Jesus be worse than killing a child? I mean Jesus was a grown man, he made his choices, he didn't have to say stuff that annoyed powerful groups, but a child is a complete innocent.

Well according to Dante's Divine Comedy, the person who has the very worst place in hell, surfing on Satan's toungue for all eternity, is Judas who supposedly betrayed Jesus which would appear to make treason the worst sin. Which is just messed up. How could betraying Jesus be worse than killing a child? I mean Jesus was a grown man, he made his choices, he didn't have to say stuff that annoyed powerful groups, but a child is a complete innocent.

Well...you know...people have this bad habit of ranking a person they believe to be the son of God as a little more important than an innocent child, and therefore seeing his betrayal as more onerous.

Well according to Dante's Divine Comedy, the person who has the very worst place in hell, surfing on Satan's toungue for all eternity, is Judas who supposedly betrayed Jesus which would appear to make treason the worst sin. Which is just messed up. How could betraying Jesus be worse than killing a child? I mean Jesus was a grown man, he made his choices, he didn't have to say stuff that annoyed powerful groups, but a child is a complete innocent.I can see it, a child is a complete innocent, yes. but betrayal is worse because they gain their trust and then backstab them.

think of it this way. which is worse, killing a child or betraying a child's trust and then killing them?

Both have the same end. the child is dead, but one actually betrays the trust a child would give to a person.

Think of it this way. which is worse, killing a child or betraying a child's trust and then killing them?

Betraying a child's trust and then killing them. DEFINITELY.

All Sins are equal, form the white lie about Santa clause, to Raping and then stabing a pregnant Girl while being secretly homosexual and a republican.

All Sins are equal, form the white lie about Santa clause, to Raping and then stabing a pregnant Girl while being secretly homosexual and a republican.
So.. What you're saying is that... Santa is a republican? :eek:

So.. What you're saying is that... Santa is a republican? :eek:

My world has just been shattered. :(

1. Thinking
2. See one
3. See two
4. See three
...
999. Recursion

So.. What you're saying is that... Santa is a republican? :eek:

No she was saying that all Republicans go to Hell!!!:D

According to Genesis, Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden for disobeying God, and eating from the tree of knowledge.
This caused God to forever curse humanity with hardship, and toil, and painful death.

This is by far the worst sin of all if God forever takes it out on the whole of humanity, for the rest of its days.

The worst sin, apparently, is Learning.

So.. What you're saying is that... Santa is a republican? :eek:
I'll be over in the corner.. stabbing my self in the heart with a rusty knife.

So.. What you're saying is that... Santa is a republican? :eek:

He wears red and he's a wealthy employer. Hmm...

I can see it, a child is a complete innocent, yes. but betrayal is worse because they gain their trust and then backstab them.

think of it this way. which is worse, killing a child or betraying a child's trust and then killing them?

Both have the same end. the child is dead, but one actually betrays the trust a child would give to a person.

No, you're misrepresenting it.
The evil counselors and betrayers are at the end. Not the killers and crucifiers.

What you should really be asking is, “which is worse, betraying a child or killing him?” You could still argue that betraying him is worse, since death is the end for all things anyway (or the beginning, if you like fairy tales), and therefor doesn't really affect the child (besides hastening his fate.)

He wears red and he's a wealthy employer. Hmm...
and he works for Milk and Cookies.

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...

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waitaminute....

My world has just been shattered. :(
When you think about it, Santa is a pretty bad guy. He is a dictator who rules the North Pole with an iron fist, forcing the elves (henceforth called "slaves") to do all kinds of menial labour, such as working in factories all day long, sorting his mail, keeping track on all children. That's right, Santa's got his own little CIA keeping track of everyone on the planet, and he has absolute authority on what is "good" and what is "bad". He also keeps track on all the "naughty" children. Why? Because he wants to spank them, that's why.
He also discriminates, as he only visits Christian children, though he seems to keep track on every child on the planet.
But it's the slaves that pisses me off though. Even the reindeers have higher status than them, and they've got 11 months of holiday.
This, of course, brings up another interesting question: How do the slaves travel the world? Considering what we have seen Santa do, I'm guessing those poor people have to walk everywhere.

Way to go Santa.

When you think about it, Santa is a pretty bad guy. He is a dictator who rules the North Pole with an iron fist, forcing the elves (henceforth called "slaves") to do all kinds of menial labour, such as working in factories all day long, sorting his mail, keeping track on all children. That's right, Santa's got his own little CIA keeping track of everyone on the planet, and he has absolute authority on what is "good" and what is "bad".
He also discriminates, as he only visits Christian children, though he seems to keep track on every child on the planet.
But it's the slaves that pisses me off though. Even the reindeers have higher status than them, and they've got 11 months of holiday.
This, of course, brings up another interesting question: How do the slaves travel the world? Considering what we have seen Santa do, I'm guessing those poor people have to walk everywhere.

Way to go Santa.

So what you're saying is that Santa is running a discriminatory toy sweatshop, right?:eek:

When you think about it, Santa is a pretty bad guy. He is a dictator who rules the North Pole with an iron fist, forcing the elves (henceforth called "slaves") to do all kinds of menial labour, such as working in factories all day long, sorting his mail, keeping track on all children. That's right, Santa's got his own little CIA keeping track of everyone on the planet, and he has absolute authority on what is "good" and what is "bad".
He also discriminates, as he only visits Christian children, though he seems to keep track on every child on the planet.
But it's the slaves that pisses me off though. Even the reindeers have higher status than them, and they've got 11 months of holiday.
This, of course, brings up another interesting question: How do the slaves travel the world? Considering what we have seen Santa do, I'm guessing those poor people have to walk everywhere.

Way to go Santa.??? never heard him only visiting Christian Children... I swear he visited some Buddists children next door when I was growing up.

and it's only his reindeer that travel with him. the "Slaves" have to stay at home trying to figure out how to build a #*$%@& X-Box 360.

So what you're saying is that Santa is running a discriminatory toy sweatshop, right?:eek:
Yes. "Satan Claus" is the name most of the workers use.

1. Not loving one each other.
2. Letting others die of poverty.
3. Not helping the needy.
4. Killing rape stealing from the poor.

I am seriously getting sick of people being mean not nice to christians and using god for there advantages.

*snip*
Way to go Santa.
Aww, you ruined Christmas for me. Forever.

Aww, you ruined Christmas for me. Forever.
Well, just look at him:
http://uncyclopedia.org/images/f/f7/Santapope.gif
Does he look like a nice guy?

Well, just look at him:
http://uncyclopedia.org/images/f/f7/Santapope.gif
Does he look like a nice guy?
Yes! He looks.. So kind and loving.

The worst sin is opposite over hypotenuse.

The worst sin is opposite over hypotenuse.
Beautiful.

I think Catholics may have a different take on it, but in the time I unfortunately spent in a Baptist church, I learned that Christians officially hold all sins as equal but tend to emphasizes or deemphasize certain ones when it’s expedient to do so.

The worst sin is opposite over hypotenuse.
Lol!

The worst sin is opposite over hypotenuse.
Eww, a math joke, and one about trig no less. I think I may have thrown up in my mouth a little bit.

This seems as good a place as any to point out this important news article.

DNA Evidence clears Eve, Adam in "Apple Biting" incident
Eden - Adam and Eve were innocent, according to the results of a new scientific investigation. DNA technology has posthumously cleared Adam and Eve, his common-law wife, of any wrongdoing in the so-called "Original Sin" at the dawn of mankind. "The DNA evidence clearly shows that neither of these two people actually bit the apple. In fact, the DNA present wasn't even human," says Edwin Rothschild, chief researcher for the U.S. Department of Ancient Agriculture.

Rothschild believes the DNA taken from saliva on the 25 000 year-old apple was, "probably from a monkey or something.”

The news has shocked biblical scholars and God-watchers from around the world. A spokesman for the Vatican says, “ Mankind has been doing penance ever since for a sin that never happened. If you ask me, God’s got some 'splaining to do."

When contacted, God expressed regret at what he termed “an unfortunate misunderstanding” but refused to claim full responsibility. "You have to understand, we didn't have DNA testing 25 000 years ago. I figured, hell, there's only two of them here, it must have been Eve. Who else would have eaten from the Forbidden Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge? Adam was too stupid to disobey me, and Eve was spending a lot of time with that snake, but in retrospect, looking back at five thousand years of human history, I guess I should have realized it couldn’t have been the humans who ate from the Tree of Knowledge and was most likely a rogue dolphin or maybe a squirrel."


God refused to comment on reports that humanity will now be claiming aboriginal title to the Garden of Eden. “I don’t even remember where it was exactly, but it probably looks like shit by now,” said the Supreme Being.

However, in a show of good faith to Eve and her decendants, who now number about 2 billion, God has removed the "Curse" of painful child-bearing from all women. Menstrual cramps will apparently be replaced by “menstrual butterflies” and women will now only feel a slight tickling sensation when giving birth.



Linky. (http://www.deadtroll.com/text/DNA20011107.html)

1) Having another God then God (like believe in "the market" or something)
2) Making pictures/ images of God (like you see in Roman Catholic churches)
3) Cursing and using God's name in an idle fashion (like when you say "God bless America" for election purposes.)
4) Not respecting the sabbath ( = working on, since 320, sunday) when you can.
5) Not respecting your father and mother.
6) Stealing
7) Killing
8) Adultery (not necessarilly encomprising homosexuality)
9) Perjury
10)Wanting something that is not yours, be it a house, a lover, an ass or anything else.

Homosexuality can only be ranked as a sin when the practising of it involves (either/or/and)
- minors
- prisoners of war (like in Guantanamo)
- prositutes/gigoloes
- Choir boys
- rape victims

In other instances, the Bible has little to say about :fluffle: homosexuality, although christians have. Unfortunately, many of my coreligionists take a different and not very christian view. - They lack both clemency and charity. (incidentally: I'm not holy either)

Ok Christians. Where is the guide (or, if you please, just summarize for us) the Ranking or ratings of sins. What tops the list, which carries the most minimal punishment?

I'm guessing something like

1. Murder
2. Rape
3. Homosexuality
4. Genocide
5. Pederasty
6. Bestiality
7. Stealing
8. Lying
9. Not believing in Jesus
10. etc etc
...
4,569. Hypocricy (sp?)

Genocide is a lesser sin than being gay?

Fuck you very much.

Khadgar..... I'm gay.

It was subtle humour. Homosexuality above Genocide..... Hypocracy way way down there.....

*sigh*

According to Dante's Inferno (worst sin last) ...

1. Not believing in Jesus
2. Lust
3. Gluttony
4. Materialism
5. Wrath
6. Heresy
7. Violence (which inculdes sodomy and blasphemey)
8. Fraud
9. Betrayal

Ok Christians. Where is the guide (or, if you please, just summarize for us) the Ranking or ratings of sins. What tops the list, which carries the most minimal punishment?

Catholics have a two-tier system, mortal sins and venial sins. All mortal sins carry the same weight and are more serious than venial sins. Also, all venial sins carry the same weight. Makes life easier that way.

Well...you know...people have this bad habit of ranking a person they believe to be the son of God as a little more important than an innocent child, and therefore seeing his betrayal as more onerous.

However, if Jesus hadn't been betrayed he would not have been killed and there would be no Christian religion. :eek:

Worst first:

Lust
Greed
Wrath
Envy
Gluttony
Pride
Sloth

All sins are equal before God, because all unholy actions amount to rebellion against Him. So surely you can't rate one sin above another, you can only judge them from a human point of view - basically what judges do in law courts.

All sins are equal before God, because all unholy actions amount to rebellion against Him. So surely you can't rate one sin above another, you can only judge them from a human point of view - basically what judges do in law courts.
If all sins are equal why doesn't confessional treat them as such?

The worst sin: Hate. All of the more specific actions are the result of expressions of hatred, ie rape, murder, genocide.
After that: Arrogance (thinking one is better than others, knows what God thinks/wants, presume to judge others, etc)

Lots of Christians act like they think the least sin is hypocrisy, but its much higher up, I think. I think the least bad(theres no good way to phrase that) are sins of inaction, ie not giving seat on bus to elderly, not giving to homeless, etc. At least, I hope they're the lowest on the evil scale, cuz i have more of them than any others.

If all sins are equal why doesn't confessional treat them as such?
ask the priest.

I don't do confessionals (Not Catholic) I pray for forgiveness for my sins.

All sins are equal before God, because all unholy actions amount to rebellion against Him. So surely you can't rate one sin above another, you can only judge them from a human point of view - basically what judges do in law courts.

Yeah, but disobediant kids are all rebellious against parents, but not eating all their vegetables is treated differently from sneaking out is treated differently from doing drugs.

That comparison might be inherently wrong. just another way to look at it tho.

Fat people warring spandex……. Sin No#1

1. Not being touched by His noodly appendage.

Ramen!

According to Genesis, Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden for disobeying God, and eating from the tree of knowledge.
This caused God to forever curse humanity with hardship, and toil, and painful death.

This is by far the worst sin of all if God forever takes it out on the whole of humanity, for the rest of its days.

The worst sin, apparently, is Learning.

that seems to ring true... when you put it that way...

although i do not believe in god it seems to me that many fanatical christians do not want their children to learn certian things...

I think god commited the worst sin

Vengance... (in my opinion)

god has a supiriorits (sp?) ccomplex

Well technically all sins are equal but if I had to rank them...

1.Hatred of God
2.False Prophesy/Treason against God
3.Genocide
4.Murder
5.Rape
6.Persicution because of Faith/Ethnicity/Personal Choices that Does not involve killing but is higher than just bullying (ex. Torture, Slavery, Violent Revenge)
7.Theft
8.Atheism
9.Treason against people
10.Hypocrisy of faith
11.Homosexuality
12.Lust
13.Lying
14.Lower persicution (ex. Bullying)
15 Jealousy

I may have forgotten something, but that is just about it.

Ok Christians. Where is the guide (or, if you please, just summarize for us) the Ranking or ratings of sins. What tops the list, which carries the most minimal punishment?

I'm guessing something like

1. Murder
2. Rape
3. Homosexuality
4. Genocide
5. Pederasty
6. Bestiality
7. Stealing
8. Lying
9. Not believing in Jesus
10. etc etc
...
4,569. Hypocricy (sp?)


Oh look another attack on christians disguised as a question!

What an original boy you are!

Maybe you could make a gay thread after this one or a usian one?

Haven't see one of those in awhile.

Eating children. :)

Eating children. :)

another dead baby joke advocate maybe?... lolz
j/k
really

When you think about it, Santa is a pretty bad guy. He is a dictator who rules the North Pole with an iron fist, forcing the elves (henceforth called "slaves") to do all kinds of menial labour, such as working in factories all day long, sorting his mail, keeping track on all children. That's right, Santa's got his own little CIA keeping track of everyone on the planet, and he has absolute authority on what is "good" and what is "bad". He also keeps track on all the "naughty" children. Why? Because he wants to spank them, that's why.
He also discriminates, as he only visits Christian children, though he seems to keep track on every child on the planet.
But it's the slaves that pisses me off though. Even the reindeers have higher status than them, and they've got 11 months of holiday.
This, of course, brings up another interesting question: How do the slaves travel the world? Considering what we have seen Santa do, I'm guessing those poor people have to walk everywhere.

Way to go Santa.


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5797/santabot3uw.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.deviantart.com/view/26423981/

this one is even better!

oh great, yet another thread that leads to sayings such as "God is an imaginary friend for grown ups" or "christians are the cause of all troubles in the world" and even "we should not be in Iraq, bush is evil". i still dont understand how the thrid one gets slipped into so many threads.

Where's Reborn when you need him? He's always so eager to tell us we're all going to burn in Hell...

:D

Well according to Dante's Divine Comedy, the person who has the very worst place in hell, surfing on Satan's toungue for all eternity, is Judas who supposedly betrayed Jesus which would appear to make treason the worst sin. Which is just messed up. How could betraying Jesus be worse than killing a child? I mean Jesus was a grown man, he made his choices, he didn't have to say stuff that annoyed powerful groups, but a child is a complete innocent.
thats wrong... Jesus forgives people. Judas isnt in the worst place in hell (i think) and if homosexualitys up there than i gotta go to confession O_o

Whats wrong with raping your neighbors rodent of the same sex while feasting on an infant carved into the likeness of an Egyptian god?

The only sin is not attending the right church (If you don't know which one is right, just ask one. Or better yet, ask several) and conttributing to the offering plate (Also known as the "Pay for the church, and pay the pastor to tell you your going to hell anyway" plate). Everything else is just window dressing.

1. Genocide to thinking bad of someone

if you're asking from a Christian standpoint, the list is, in its entirety:

1. not believing in Jesus

no one has ever gone to hell for murder, adultery, stealing, making bad puns, or anything else. people are rejected by God (once again, from a Biblical Christian standpoint) only because they do not believe in or accept the redemptive work of Christ. if they do, the Bible is clear that the sacrifice He made atones for all of their sins, no matter how grave, and that they have confidence to access God by Him (1 John 1:17, Eph 3:12)

1. Everything, from murder to not helping someone.

Yeah, but disobediant kids are all rebellious against parents, but not eating all their vegetables is treated differently from sneaking out is treated differently from doing drugs.

That comparison might be inherently wrong. just another way to look at it tho.

Parents =/= God. That's about the best explanation I can come up for for that at three in the morning :)

And yes, there is a massive flaw in the analogy. However, it being three in the morning, I can't quite put into words what it is. It's there though, trust me :D

Yeah, but disobediant kids are all rebellious against parents, but not eating all their vegetables is treated differently from sneaking out is treated differently from doing drugs.

That comparison might be inherently wrong. just another way to look at it tho.
But your parents dont kill you (or send you to punishment for eternity) for making a mistake

They punish you to help you LEARN

But in this case god waits till it is too late to Learn and change to punish you

Some friends of mine once wrote in a song,
"...a sin is a sin,
no matter what shape's it's in,
but some make a better story."

I'm not sure I've ever heard it put better.