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this is probably a "copycat thread" but i am not going to read ALL of the threads just to see.. and plus none of them have to say exactly what i have to say... i say ."why not".. and i have a list of reasons why not (my reasons) i am going to get flamed by the "gay loving liberals" for it ... i know that and i can take it so it is useless.. i don't let it get to me.. i am the only conservative in my family.. so don't waste your time... It's in ur best interest

Lately there has been so many heated discussions about "gay marriage" and all and there is a split almost %o/5o on who is for it and who is against it ... and i can't understand why it is such a big deal...

Gays get their own special set of rights as it is.. they get to hold rallys at school (my school when i was there at least) and no one can say anything to them or make a counter protest... they get their own colleges and scholorships.. and they expect to be treated diferently then everyone else.. the gay people i know... and i know more then just a few.. i know enough... the main reason i am doing this is because they know not their boundries... i have been "asked out" by 4 lesbians.. and even though they know i am striaght they continue to persue me.. i Will not bring god into this.. "god" is not an issue... i don't even believe in god.. so many af these anti gay marriage activists are fanatical "god worshipers" and in their religion they raise a valid point.. Marriage is a matramony between a man and women... and got put "adam and eve" on this earth for the soul purpouse of (being fruitful and multiplying)... that is what god supposedly said to them.. two men cannot multiply, two women cannot multiply .. therefore in "god's" eyes it is an unnatural union.. a valid point to the religious....

Personally i am against it... I don't like the prospect of demeaning the sanctity of marriage.. but it is not up to me... "God" didn't say he hated gays.. but he didn't say he liked it... i think that the sanctity of marriage issue is the biggest one that keeps me against it.. i know that "you can't help who you fall in love with" and all that shit really... but to let 2 men or two women marry is not just unnatural but it opens the door to polygamists and pedofiles to say "hey u let them get married" if the liberals get their way with EVERYTHING then the country would be thrown into utter chaos... i mean the seperation of parties is good.. but this is one thing that i think is totally wrong... Civil unions are okay ... BUT NOT MARRIAGE!!!!!

AND I AM NOT A FUCKING GOD WORSHIPER.... GOD SHOULD BE LEFT OUT OF THIS....THIS IS'T ABOUT GOD...IT IS ABOUT MORALITY AND FORESIGHT INTO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT......

I don't hate gay people.. actually i have a lot of gay/lesbian friends that i love much ... their sexuallity has nothing to do w/ how i trat them of how i act towards them... hating a group b/c of their sexuality is wrong.. it is lke hating someone b/c they are black... or jewish... it is just wrong... The blacks marrying whites thing was breaking a boundry that was written.. and i have no problem with it.. but i probably wouldn't have agreed with it either.. i am not racist... but it is an inter-cultural thing.. and it led to this "war" on gay marriage.... Once again i love people

Another thing... gay people wanting to adopt children.. also a problem.. imagine growing up and having to say that you had two moms or two dads.. children are brutal.. you would have been ruthlessly taunted... there is nothing good about that... growing up in an enviornment with gay parents... the child may become gay.. ( i believe being homosexual is a choice not the "natural order of things") and then what...

I am going to stop before somones head explodes .. thank you have a nice day

~*Jenn*~

Gay Marriage Thread #198,581,857,178,899,327,487,847,817,589,975,328,287,183,091,347 x 1,000.

And I thought the wave of gay marriage threads was over... well, shit.

I think homosexuality is both a choice for some people, who pretend to be gay because they're "exploring" their sexuality (which is retarded, I think), but for most people I think it's genetic. I have a friend who is bi, and I asked him once whether he wished he was straight, and he said that yeah, at first he wanted to be normal, but then he just got over it.

Just saying.

As for gay marriage itself, you make a valid point, but it just doesn't bother me. However, you won't see me in any pro-gay marriage marches any time soon.

Gay Marriage Thread #198,581,857,178,899,327,487,847,817,589,975,328,287,183,091,347 x 1,000.
Then why did you even post? If you don't like it, just ignore it.

I think it is totally ok. I mean, why should it be illegal? We are all human whether we are bi, gay, or a les...its normal I think. I think it's kinda cool that people feel safer to express themselves today. And the exploring thing...it is actually normal.

Gay Marriage Thread #198,581,857,178,899,327,487,847,817,589,975,328,287,183,091,347 x 1,000.
did i not say it was prolly a copycat thread you shoulg have stopped there.. if you even read it

and you could have putthat in schientific notation it would have been much easier 1.99 X 10 ^ 43

IBTL

Raghead

Gay marriage

MARPAT

Zombies

Ann coulter

George Bush

Tony Blair

Religion of Peace

Gitmo

Then why did you even post? If you don't like it, just ignore it.Did I say I didn't like it? No.

Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. I don't have any real argument for this. I just don't like gays, so i'd like to rain on their parade, both literally and figuratively..(maybe im just jealous that i don't have my own parade) No, i don't have a good reason for disliking them..I just don't, so theres really know need to bitch at me about it. I may be bigoted but atleast I'm honest about it haha

Did I say I didn't like it? No.
I meant this gay marriage thread. Not gay marriage itself.

Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. I don't have any real argument for this. I just don't like gays, so i'd like to rain on their parade, both literally and figuratively..(maybe im just jealous that i don't have my own parade) No, i don't have a good reason for disliking them..I just don't, so theres really know need to bitch at me about it. I may be bigoted but atleast I'm honest about it haha

You are a better person then most ^^

This is getting old...

IBTL

Raghead

Gay marriage

MARPAT

Zombies

Ann coulter

George Bush

Tony Blair

Religion of Peace

Gitmo

i am not exactlky sure what this post ment ... ^^

I meant this gay marriage thread. Not gay marriage itself.Yes, I know.

Yes, I know.
ok, cool.

Until i can go down to the court house and become joined in holy matromony with a horse or perhaps an 8 year old boy, a reclining chair or combination of any of them... i say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. If we're gonna give rights to some sickos and freaks, might as well give the same rights to all the freaks...now thats true equality. why should gays get to marry but mormons arent to marry as many wives as they want...etc... you might say, "but wait...thats sick" well alot of people find homosexuality sick, doesnt mean it is, but it doesnt mean what you think is sick is really sick either...so equality for all freaks or none at all. i prefer the none option.

did neone even read it?.. okay now i feel worthless T-T

Until i can go down to the court house and become joined in holy matromony with a horse or perhaps an 8 year old boy, a reclining chair or combination of any of them... i say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. If we're gonna give rights to some sickos and freaks, might as well give the same rights to all the freaks...now thats true equality. why should gays get to marry but mormons arent to marry as many wives as they want...etc... you might say, "but wait...thats sick" well alot of people find homosexuality sick, doesnt mean it is, but it doesnt mean what you think is sick is really sick either...so equality for all freaks or none at all. i prefer the none option.


That is what i was saying.. except differently... but i am a social reject here ^^ okay ^^

i am not exactlky sure what this post ment ... ^^


Those thread titles inspire 50+ flame fests and are bound to get someone banned, thread locked, and some socialist babies crying.

did neone even read it?.. okay now i feel worthless T-TI read it, but I refuse to reply to such bullshit.

Until i can go down to the court house and become joined in holy matromony with a horse or perhaps an 8 year old boy, a reclining chair or combination of any of them... i say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. If we're gonna give rights to some sickos and freaks, might as well give the same rights to all the freaks...now thats true equality. why should gays get to marry but mormons arent to marry as many wives as they want...etc... you might say, "but wait...thats sick" well alot of people find homosexuality sick, doesnt mean it is, but it doesnt mean what you think is sick is really sick either...so equality for all freaks or none at all. i prefer the none option.

:eek:


:D

Those thread titles inspire 50+ flame fests and are bound to get someone banned, thread locked, and some socialist babies crying.

That wasn't my intention... i posted this to get people to think... ^^ it didn't work

"same sex" "marriage" is an oxy moron. the two just cannot go together!

I read it, but I refuse to reply to such bullshit.
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so now my well thought out opinion is Bullshit... i can see some one raised you well.. with respect for others... and on the american principles of tolerance no doubt

Until i can go down to the court house and become joined in holy matromony with a horse or perhaps an 8 year old boy, a reclining chair or combination of any of them... i say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. If we're gonna give rights to some sickos and freaks, might as well give the same rights to all the freaks...now thats true equality. why should gays get to marry but mormons arent to marry as many wives as they want...etc... you might say, "but wait...thats sick" well alot of people find homosexuality sick, doesnt mean it is, but it doesnt mean what you think is sick is really sick either...so equality for all freaks or none at all. i prefer the none option.
That was extremely hateful and bigoted...but it's the only argument against gay marriage that has made sense. OMG, I'm almost convinced!!!:eek:

So you're opposed to Gay marriage?


My advice would be don't marry someone of the same sex.

I agree that religions should be free to conduct their own affairs, if a church will not perform a gay marriage I take no issue with this, it is their religious belief.

But outside of religion, well, it is simply none of our business is it?

Allowing gay marriage would not lead to paedophiles marrying children, that is alarmist nonsense.
For starters Paedophilia is a sexual pervertion and is recognised as such under the law.
I do not see how it could cause polygamy, though many societies have practiced this for thousands of years and seem no worse the wear for it.

Do you have any serious sociological evidence to back up this alarmist assertions?

Opinions are fine, but since you posted them on a public forum I assume you are looking to convince people of your view.
Why not use some evidence to back them up?

Otherwise you may as well say you are opposed to Gay Marriage because it will make the sky fall on our heads.

My opinion that your opinion is bullshit means I wasn't raised to have respect for others? Okay, sure.

I respect everyone, just not necessarily their opinions. 75% of the people I know think like you, but it doesn't make me think of them any less, it just makes me think they're slightly mentally ill to think the way they do. :p :D

A marriage is performed in a church because it is a spiritual joining, and trust between a MAN and a WOMAN such as Adam and Eve and Mary and Joseph. Like I said before, a same sex marriage is an oxy moron; the two do not go together.

yeah, i say marriage for all sodomites...or none. but if im elected president. every wednesday will be set aside to light sodomites on fire and shoot at them with .22 longrifles until theyre all gone. could be a fun couple of wednesdays :)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This thread's stupidity, right from the OP, just makes me wanna punch someone, you know?

If this was a fighting game like Streets of Rage, I'd already have enough of an exuse to go on a city wide beatdown of random thugs and some of the people in this thread by now.

So you're opposed to Gay marriage?


My advice would be don't marry someone of the same sex.

I agree that religions should be free to conduct their own affairs, if a church will not perform a gay marriage I take no issue with this, it is their religious belief.

But outside of religion, well, it is simply none of our business is it?

Allowing gay marriage would not lead to paedophiles marrying children, that is alarmist nonsense.
For starters Paedophilia is a sexual pervertion and is recognised as such under the law.
I do not see how it could cause polygamy, though many societies have practiced this for thousands of years and seem no worse the wear for it.

Do you have any serious sociological evidence to back up this alarmist assertions?

Opinions are fine, but since you posted them on a public forum I assume you are looking to convince people of your view.
Why not use some evidence to back them up?

Otherwise you may as well say you are opposed to Gay Marriage because it will make the sky fall on our heads.


wow ... okay ...
A) these "alarmist fears" they may come to pass you know... everyone wants equal rights... no matter whether it is right or not .. no matter what... (pedophiliacs and polygamists)
B) in the middle ages it was accepted (marriage between people that were many many years apart in age) and the past always comes bact to haunt us... 20 or 30 years from now it MAY be socially acceptable.. if we let this pass.. and that fact cannot be disproven
C) polygamists already have communities where it is accepted.. maybe not legally but it is accepted....
D) Bite Me!

"same sex" "marriage" is an oxy moron. the two just cannot go together!

Exaaactly.

Stop trying to save the world and eat some Swedish cheese, y'all!

A marriage is performed in a church because it is a spiritual joining, and trust between a MAN and a WOMAN such as Adam and Eve and Mary and Joseph. Like I said before, a same sex marriage is an oxy moron; the two do not go together.

Hate to break the news to you but marriage has existed outside of Christianity for many thousands of years.

In the context of Christian dogma, yes you make a fine case. But we are speaking in the wider term.

A Marriage does not have to be in a church and it does not have to be spiritual

Hate to break the news to you but marriage has existed outside of Christianity for many thousands of years.

In the context of Christian dogma, yes you make a fine case. But we are speaking in the wider term.

A Marriage does not have to be in a church and it does not have to be spiritual

But thousands of years of tradition will tell you otherwise.. it is a recent development.. non religious unions...

So you're opposed to Gay marriage?


My advice would be don't marry someone of the same sex.

I agree that religions should be free to conduct their own affairs, if a church will not perform a gay marriage I take no issue with this, it is their religious belief.

But outside of religion, well, it is simply none of our business is it?

Allowing gay marriage would not lead to paedophiles marrying children, that is alarmist nonsense.
For starters Paedophilia is a sexual pervertion and is recognised as such under the law.
I do not see how it could cause polygamy, though many societies have practiced this for thousands of years and seem no worse the wear for it.

Do you have any serious sociological evidence to back up this alarmist assertions?

Opinions are fine, but since you posted them on a public forum I assume you are looking to convince people of your view.
Why not use some evidence to back them up?

Otherwise you may as well say you are opposed to Gay Marriage because it will make the sky fall on our heads.

yeah, sodomy IS illegal in lots of states, just like pedophilia....so perhaps it IS a sexual perversion. im sure pedophiles dont think theyre sick. its all opion based. and my opinion is that gays shouldnt marry. i didnt know that because its against the law its necessarily wrong either...i mean fucking kids is wrong, in my opinion. but blacks used to be segregated by law...does that mean you supported segregation or even slavery? ( i do) but most people would consider that wrong, and it was backed by law. so laws dont really mean shit in the game of right and wrong.

But thousands of years of tradition will tell you otherwise.. it is a recent development.. non religious unions...

Luckily our minds aren't nearly as bound as yours by things like "tradition".

I don't care how Buddist people marry in India or any of that shit. this is AMERICA, we were founded upon wonderfuly conservative christian values, and this includes the definition that marriage is a spiritual bond between a MAN and a WOMAN.

Luckily our minds aren't nearly as bound as yours by things like "tradition".

tradition is a good thing.. i refuse to get married because it is a HOLY UNION and i do not believe in god... plain and simple

wow ... okay ...
A) these "alarmist fears" they may come to pass you know... everyone wants equal rights... no matter whether it is right or not .. no matter what... (pedophiliacs and polygamists)
B) in the middle ages it was accepted (marriage between people that were many many years apart in age) and the past always comes bact to haunt us... 20 or 30 years from now it MAY be socially acceptable.. if we let this pass.. and that fact cannot be disproven
C) polygamists already have communities where it is accepted.. maybe not legally but it is accepted....
D) Bite Me!

You'll pardon me if I don't bite you...

They may come to pass, but not "because" of gay marriage.
You could make the same argument with *any* equal rights.
Are you going to say the abolition of slavery is leading to paedophiles marrying children?
Yes, in the middle ages things were different, but the young marriages were not caused by a liberal society, nor by gay marriage which was illegal. So your point is a non-sequiter

In communities that practice polygamy illegally the other wives often live awful lives because they do not have the normal rights of a married woman, and because it is practiced illegally the community keeps the marriages secret so the woman in question cannot be helped. They are often bullied into such "Marriages".

Legalising Polygamy would change that situation...just so know.

I don't care how Buddist people marry in India or any of that shit. this is AMERICA, we were founded upon wonderfuly conservative christian values, and this includes the definition that marriage is a spiritual bond between a MAN and a WOMAN.

...Actually we were founded on wonderfully secular values...

I feel sorry for gay people. It is a disease, it is life's way of weeding out weaker individuals. It's like a plague and it needs to be stopped, not allowed and encouraged.

I don't care how Buddist people marry in India or any of that shit. this is AMERICA, we were founded upon wonderfuly conservative christian values, and this includes the definition that marriage is a spiritual bond between a MAN and a WOMAN.

slavery.. segregation... no rights for women... yes, "wonderfully conservative values" right...

tradition is a good thing.. i refuse to get married because it is a HOLY UNION and i do not believe in god... plain and simple

...And why should anyone else care what you think?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This thread's stupidity, right from the OP, just makes me wanna punch someone, you know?

If this was a fighting game like Streets of Rage, I'd already have enough of an exuse to go on a city wide beatdown of random thugs and some of the people in this thread by now.


so what? big deal...we're stupid. then just let us be. ha, yeah its dumb, but i have no life and im damn bored. just killin time before i go get drunk. so dont knock my good time. haha

I feel sorry for gay people. It is a disease, it is life's way of weeding out weaker individuals. It's like a plague and it needs to be stopped, not allowed and encouraged.

The weird thing...This was what I was thinking...But slightly different...

"I feel sorry for stupid people. It is a disease, it is life's way of weeding out weaker individuals. It's like a plague and it needs to be stopped, not allowed and encouraged."

Was anyone else dissapointed when our valient leader's gay marriage ammendment was not passed due to the disgusting liberals voting on the matter?

I don't care how Buddist people marry in India or any of that shit. this is AMERICA, we were founded upon wonderfuly conservative christian values, and this includes the definition that marriage is a spiritual bond between a MAN and a WOMAN.

Are you aware that George Washington (and many of your founders) were Deists?

All irrelevent though. America has no National Religion, it is unique for that.

No one cares what your opinions on India are (and Buddhists do not practice polygamy, you are thinking of Hindus)

American law allows non-religious marriages.

Your point isn't even valid as an opinion, it is just wrong

so what? big deal...we're stupid. then just let us be. ha, yeah its dumb, but i have no life and im damn bored. just killin time before i go get drunk. so dont knock my good time. haha

Good time, eh? I recommend the spam forum, or, anywhere not here really....

...And why should anyone else care what you think?

You don't have to care.. but if u didn't u wouldn't still be defending yourself.. or talking to me

Was anyone else dissapointed when our valient leader's gay marriage ammendment was not passed due to the disgusting liberals voting on the matter?

i hate leberals.. id they got their way this country would be engulfed in anarchy

You don't have to care.. but if u didn't u wouldn't still be defending yourself.. or talking to me

Eh, what can I say. Nothing better to do than debate stupidity...on Saturday night...Says a bit about the soicial life don't it?

i hate leberals.. id they got their way this country would be engulfed in anarchy

Actually, if the had their way it'd probably be some form of Socialism. on the other hand, conservatives would have something of a theocratic totalarian reign...Basically a Christian Middle East.

Slavery and segregation are not conservative values you liberal trash. If you recall, the slave owners all were democratic, and the man who abolished slavery was one of the greatest republicans of all time.

Eh, what can I say. Nothing better to do than debate stupidity...on Saturday night...Says a bit about the soicial life don't it?

yes it does .. my b/f is a navy seal and i'm in the marines.. i have no social life
you obviously don't either.. go drink a beer and watch T.V. or something

so what? big deal...we're stupid. then just let us be. ha, yeah its dumb, but i have no life and im damn bored. just killin time before i go get drunk. so dont knock my good time. haha

THAT'S IT!

*Final Fight theme starts.*

YAH!

*Performs the same three hit combo repeatedly on Terrovostock until he is deafeated.*

SIDENOTE: I'd like to nominate the quoted post for the WORST POST EVER ON THIS FORUM.

Good time, eh? I recommend the spam forum, or, anywhere not here really....
nah im having a good time right here. don't make me have a parade for my right to be here... if they really wanted gay marriage legalized the homos would just march more. marching solves everything. the blacks did it, the nazis did it, the gays do it...they just need more practice i guess

Slavery and segregation are not conservative values you liberal trash. If you recall, the slave owners all were democratic, and the man who abolished slavery was one of the greatest republicans of all time.

Hooah!

Well said

did neone even read it?.. okay now i feel worthless T-T
well you seemed to say a couple of very strange things

you dont like to be hit on by women so gays shouldnt be allowed to get married. just say NO the same as you would when boys you arent interested in ask you out more than once. its no big deal.

you think that marriage is SACRED -- even though you arent religious--so gays shouldnt be allowed to get married.

the sanctity of marriage doesnt exist and never did. in the old days it was a business relationship between a man and the father of the woman he wanted to marry. nowadays its based on the fleeting emotion of love. as love comes and goes so do marriages. straight people defiled marriage long ago.

yes it does .. my b/f is a navy seal and i'm in the marines.. i have no social life
you obviously don't either.. go drink a beer and watch T.V. or something
Since when did watching TV count as having a social life?

Kind of a... Midwest? ;)

Actually, if the had their way it'd probably be some form of Socialism. on the other hand, conservatives would have something of a theocratic totalarian reign...Basically a Christian Middle East.

Slavery and segregation are not conservative values you liberal trash. If you recall, the slave owners all were democratic, and the man who abolished slavery was one of the greatest republicans of all time.

Yes - the Confederates were all a bunch of whiny liberals trying to keep their slaves, down in that liberal stronghold that is the south.

It is JUST LIKE those pesky liberals.


Is anyone here capable of rational debate or are we going to be reduced to accusing the others of witchcraft?

Slavery and segregation are not conservative values you liberal trash. If you recall, the slave owners all were democratic, and the man who abolished slavery was one of the greatest republicans of all time.

Slavery is advocated in the bible...So abolishing it must've been anti-christian...

well you seemed to say a couple of very strange things

you dont like to be hit on by women so gays shouldnt be allowed to get married. just say NO the same as you would when boys you arent interested in ask you out more than once. its no big deal.

you think that marriage is SACRED -- even though you arent religious--so gays shouldnt be allowed to get married.

the sanctity of marriage doesnt exist and never did. in the old days it was a business relationship between a man and the father of the woman he wanted to marry. nowadays its based on the fleeting emotion of love. as love comes and goes so do marriages. straight people defiled marriage long ago.

It is b/c they know no boundries is why i think that their marriage isn't right.. they have so many special rights as is.. why take away this from us republicans.. let us have one victory

i will never get married b/c i believe mariage is a religious affair

And on the third point.. i guess you are right

nah im having a good time right here. don't make me have a parade for my right to be here... if they really wanted gay marriage legalized the homos would just march more. marching solves everything. the blacks did it, the nazis did it, the gays do it...they just need more practice i guess
Or they would actually get the government into court and get their rights recognized, like it was done in Canada... and several US states... and Spain, and the netherlands, and...

*Groans* So who likes this (http://www.leonpaul.com/download/games.htm) game? What about this (http://www.freetheflash.com/games/interactivebuddy.htm) one?

Pal, if you want to voice your opinion on this, don't start a whole #$^#ing new thread, post on an old one. There's already a billion of 'em.

Since when did watching TV count as having a social life?

hey it is better then this right?... l

well you seemed to say a couple of very strange things

you dont like to be hit on by women so gays shouldnt be allowed to get married. just say NO the same as you would when boys you arent interested in ask you out more than once. its no big deal.

you think that marriage is SACRED -- even though you arent religious--so gays shouldnt be allowed to get married.

the sanctity of marriage doesnt exist and never did. in the old days it was a business relationship between a man and the father of the woman he wanted to marry. nowadays its based on the fleeting emotion of love. as love comes and goes so do marriages. straight people defiled marriage long ago.

Very good point. The idea of Romance and marriage being inseperable is a relatively recent development

I feel sorry for gay people. It is a disease, it is life's way of weeding out weaker individuals. It's like a plague and it needs to be stopped, not allowed and encouraged.
so is trollishness and yet i've known many trolls that were married.

yes it does .. my b/f is a navy seal and i'm in the marines.. i have no social life
you obviously don't either.. go drink a beer and watch T.V. or something

...Holy crap the dumbass is a girl! :eek:

And I thought the wave of gay marriage threads was over... well, s***. Oh no, people's egos get pampered when others respond to their threads.

...Holy crap the dumbass is a girl! :eek:
...or gay! :eek:

...Holy crap the dumbass is a girl! :eek:

that surprises you because?

It is b/c they know no boundries is why i think that their marriage isn't right.. they have so many special rights as is.. why take away this from us republicans.. let us have one victory

i will never get married b/c i believe mariage is a religious affair

And on the third point.. i guess you are right

So gays not getting married is a "special-right" for republicans....

You have the right for other people not to get married....

and you believe in this "special right" because you have met some lesbians who asked you out several times (this being the basis for your opinion on all homosexuals)

...or gay! :eek:

Well, I assumed that would be impossible...

Or they would actually get the government into court and get their rights recognized, like it was done in Canada... and several US states... and Spain, and the netherlands, and...
yeah that shit is all fine...but im telling you, its the marching that really gets the job done...

that surprises you because?

I dunno...I guess the homophobic ones are rarely female...Part of the whole "macho" thing...

Well, I assumed that would be impossible...
I think he really hates himeself for all those feelings he can't control...

It is b/c they know no boundries is why i think that their marriage isn't right..

Baseless, sweeping generalization. You would deny right to several million people because you have anecdotal evidence that a few of those you know are stupid? Then let's remove all rights from straight white christian males, because I have anecdotal evidence that some of them are rude and stupid.


they have so many special rights as is.. why take away this from us republicans.. let us have one victory

Falsity. Name a single special right of gays and/or lesbians.

Allowing others to have the same right as you takes nothing from you.


i will never get married b/c i believe mariage is a religious affair

Marriage licenses are a contract. They are to be regulated by the government. Gay marriage with a provision that protects Churche's autonomy regarding what marriages they perform solves that problem. Look at the law passed in Canada for further detail.

I think he really hates himeself for all those feelings he can't control...

Hmmm...yeah...I see how that works. You know deep down she wants to get in on the lesbian orgy...

Dinaverg......slavery is NOT advocated in the bible. If it is I have my bible right here, and you can tell me exactly where. You might have been referring to a different left winged bible however, something along the line of the communist manifesto, but im not sure. I however was speaking of the holy bible.

Name a single special right of hays and/or lesbians.

Well, I always wanted to be baled, but they always say "You can only bale hay". Bah, stupid hays...

So gays not getting married is a "special-right" for republicans....

You have the right for other people not to get married....

and you believe in this "special right" because you have met some lesbians who asked you out several times (this being the basis for your opinion on all homosexuals)


no gays not getting married is the morale opinion of may people... and yes them getting married would be a special right... because it is illegal now.. it would make it a special right..

I know so many gay peopl.. you have no idea.. i have lived in new york and california.. my friend john is against gay marriage.. he is gay.. i know that may come as a shock to you .. but not only straight people think this way..not only republicans think this way.. it is a 50/50 split.. more or less

WOW!

A gay marriage thread.

Haven't see one of these in awhile.

:headbang:

yeah that shit is all fine...but im telling you, its the marching that really gets the job done...
The point of your sarcasm being? Maybe that gays should NOT march and show their respective government they exist and the right being asked are important to them?

It is b/c they know no boundries is why i think that their marriage isn't right.. they have so many special rights as is.. why take away this from us republicans.. let us have one victory

i will never get married b/c i believe mariage is a religious affair

And on the third point.. i guess you are right
that still doesnt make any sense

because some girls at school wont take NO for an answer (and im willing to believe that they know you arent interested and thats why they keep persuing you) NO gay people should be allowed to get married?

what special rights do you think they have?

you have already lost this fight. its only a matter of time before the majority of people feel that its OK for gay people to get married. it probably wont take 10 years.


few people get married for religious reasons, they marry for the committment and for the legal benefits of marriage.

Dinaverg......slavery is NOT advocated in the bible. If it is I have my bible right here, and you can tell me exactly where. You might have been referring to a different left winged bible however, something along the line of the communist manifesto, but im not sure. I however was speaking of the holy bible.

Eh, search around here a bit (http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl.htm). I've no need to teach you your tale...

no gays not getting married is the morale opinion of may people... and yes them getting married would be a special right... because it is illegal now.. it would make it a special right..

I know so many gay peopl.. you have no idea.. i have lived in new york and california.. my friend john is against gay marriage.. he is gay.. i know that may come as a shock to you .. but not only straight people think this way..not only republicans think this way.. it is a 50/50 split.. more or less

That doesn't shock me - I'm not the one who thinks all gays are the same ;)

I dunno...I guess the homophobic ones are rarely female...Part of the whole "macho" thing...

I'm not homophobic... i just don't think they should get married.. civil unions are okay .. b/c that is so they can visit each other in the hospilal... Etc.. why can't they just be happy w/ that... i am ...

down with gay people!:mp5:


Let the normal people rule the world *coughnongaycough*:sniper:

down with gay people!:mp5:


Let the normal people rule the world *coughnongaycough*:sniper:

no gays not getting married is the morale opinion of may people... and yes them getting married would be a special right... because it is illegal now.. it would make it a special right..

I know so many gay peopl.. you have no idea.. i have lived in new york and california.. my friend john is against gay marriage.. he is gay.. i know that may come as a shock to you .. but not only straight people think this way..not only republicans think this way.. it is a 50/50 split.. more or less

That doesn't shock me - I'm not the one who thinks all gays are the same ;)

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so now my well thought out opinion is Bullshit... i can see some one raised you well.. with respect for others... and on the american principles of tolerance no doubt

Your opinion wasn't "thought" out, it was felt out. Your argument wasn't based on logic or any conception of 'justice.' It consisted of "I feel ____, therefore there should be no gay marriage." If you want your opinion to be taken seriously in a debate over the public good or social policy you have to base it on some objective standard, not just your 'feelings' that a different group of people are 'icky' or 'unnatural.' Your feelings aren't the final arbiter of society.

And before invoking the mighty 'American principle' of 'tolerance' in your own defense, two points: 1) your 'principle of tolerance' is a myth-- you're appealing to some cultural tolerance when anyone who's paying attention can SEE quite well that the culture of the US is in many ways intolerant. Intolerant of foreigners, intolerant of gay people, and the list goes on. 2) If you begin with an intolerant argument against other people, you have no right to cry foul when those on the other side of the issue treat you the same way you're treating the subjects of your prejudice. It's blatant hypocricy. It's like a serial killer whining about receiving the death penalty-- an extreme example, sure, but the point is you reap what you sow. Besides which, anyone with a basic grasp of logic can explain to you that if a society values "tolerance," then it is in fact legitimate to sanction those who promote intolerance. Those who start the stone-throwing are the ones bringing 'intolerance' into the picture, and if you aren't willing to uphold tolerance as a social value, then you forfeit your right to expect 'tolerant' treatment yourself.

STEVENASH


Would I be able to keep you in a cage and do experiments on you please?

:rolleyes:

Dinaverge or whatever your name is...That website, is straight ASS. I could search the internet right now and find an article proving the most absurd things. Slavery is not advocated in the bible and if you believe an article online that doens't consist of a verse or such DIRECT evidence, you're an extremely unintelligent individual. I hate liberal garbage

Well, I always wanted to be baled, but they always say "You can only bale hay". Bah, stupid hays...
Yes, typoes do happen. Thank you pointing this out with acid sarcasm.

*grumbles*

Your opinion wasn't "thought" out, it was felt out. Your argument wasn't based on logic or any conception of 'justice.' It consisted of "I feel ____, therefore there should be no gay marriage." If you want your opinion to be taken seriously in a debate over the public good or social policy you have to base it on some objective standard, not just your 'feelings' that a different group of people are 'icky' or 'unnatural.' Your feelings aren't the final arbiter of society.

And before invoking the mighty 'American principle' of 'tolerance' in your own defense, two points: 1) your 'principle of tolerance' is a myth-- you're appealing to some cultural tolerance when anyone who's paying attention can SEE quite well that the culture of the US is in many ways intolerant. Intolerant of foreigners, intolerant of gay people, and the list goes on. 2) If you begin with an intolerant argument against other people, you have no right to cry foul when those on the other side of the issue treat you the same way you're treating the subjects of your prejudice. It's blatant hypocricy. It's like a serial killer whining about receiving the death penalty-- an extreme example, sure, but the point is you reap what you sow. Besides which, anyone with a basic grasp of logic can explain to you that if a society values "tolerance," then it is in fact legitimate to sanction those who promote intolerance. Those who start the stone-throwing are the ones bringing 'intolerance' into the picture, and if you aren't willing to uphold tolerance as a social value, then you forfeit your right to expect 'tolerant' treatment yourself.

what ever... really.. i understand and respect what you are saying.. and that is all i ask of others.. i don't expect for them toagree with me... but i don't flame thim and blatently disrespect them why should they do it to me... and yes i did think about this.. how to word it.. feeling a certian way and thinking a certian way can be attributed as one in the same

Dinaverge or whatever your name is...That website, is straight ASS. I could search the internet right now and find an article proving the most absurd things. Slavery is not advocated in the bible and if you believe an article online that doens't consist of a verse or such DIRECT evidence, you're an extremely unintelligent individual. I hate liberal garbage


Do a history lesson. Advocates of slavery claimed that the bible backed their opinions
You probably could find a crackpot site to prove anything, but google words slavery and bible and see what happens? eh?


a think you'll find more than a lone nutjob

Dinaverge or whatever your name is...That website, is straight ASS. I could search the internet right now and find an article proving the most absurd things. Slavery is not advocated in the bible and if you believe an article online that doens't consist of a verse or such DIRECT evidence, you're an extremely unintelligent individual. I hate liberal garbage
Read the book of Leviticus.

Leviticus 25:44-46 To be exact

You do a history lesson JACK. Read the fucking bible, and show me where it talks about slavery. im leaving because I have a migrain caused by liberal waste like you. Gay marriage absolutely should not be allowed based upon the beautiful conservative concepts that our country was founded upon, and is currently practicing behind our wonderful leader george w. bush, and will practice when john mccain is elected in 2008 over whatever democratic scum wishes to challenge him. I cannot wait until the day gay marriage ammendment is added to our constitution (something that will happen very soon)it will be a brilliant day. The diseased should be quarentined, and then treated to fix their illness, and if they cannot be treated they should be placed into an institution.

Dinaverge or whatever your name is...That website, is straight ASS. I could search the internet right now and find an article proving the most absurd things. Slavery is not advocated in the bible and if you believe an article online that doens't consist of a verse or such DIRECT evidence, you're an extremely unintelligent individual. I hate liberal garbage

Matthew 18:25: "But for as much as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."

Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."

Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."


Read the bible more thoroughly next time.

Until i can go down to the court house and become joined in holy matromony with a horse or perhaps an 8 year old boy, a reclining chair or combination of any of them... i say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. If we're gonna give rights to some sickos and freaks, might as well give the same rights to all the freaks...now thats true equality. why should gays get to marry but mormons arent to marry as many wives as they want...etc... you might say, "but wait...thats sick" well alot of people find homosexuality sick, doesnt mean it is, but it doesnt mean what you think is sick is really sick either...so equality for all freaks or none at all. i prefer the none option.

I find you really sick, I dont deny your right to happiness.

Marriage is a bond of love between 2 people who can enter a contract. last time I checked an 8 year old or an animal CANT DO THAT.

You do a history lesson JACK. Read the fucking bible, and show me where it talks about slavery. im leaving because I have a migrain caused by liberal waste like you. Gay marriage absolutely should not be allowed based upon the beautiful conservative concepts that our country was founded upon, and is currently practicing behind our wonderful leader george w. bush, and will practice when john mccain is elected in 2008 over whatever democratic scum wishes to challenge him. I cannot wait until the day gay marriage ammendment is added to our constitution (something that will happen very soon)it will be a brilliant day. The diseased should be quarentined, and then treated to fix their illness, and if they cannot be treated they should be placed into an institution.

okay u are crazy.. lolz ... i hate bush.. i respect him .. but i don't like him
And newsflash
they already declined the amendment
i am not that fanatic

The diseased should be quarentined, and then treated to fix their illness, and if they cannot be treated they should be placed into an institution.
So crazy nutjobs frothing at the mouth like yourself should be rehabilitated? Can't argue with that.

You do a history lesson JACK. Read the fucking bible, and show me where it talks about slavery.

Wow. Like all the "good christians", you dont read the bible either.

The Bible says you can own slaves as long as they are from neighboring countries. The Bible also says you can sell your daughter to slavery.

Leviticus 25:44-46
Luke 12:47-48
1 Timothy 6:1-2
Ephesians 6:5
Exodus 21:20-21
Exodus 21:7-11
Exodus 21:2-6


Have you read the Bible STEVENASH ?

Or does it just gather dust on your altar along with the picture of George Bush and the candle?

This thread should bloody die already. (http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9863/killit6tl.png)

You do a history lesson JACK. Read the fucking bible, and show me where it talks about slavery. im leaving because I have a migrain caused by liberal waste like you. Gay marriage absolutely should not be allowed based upon the beautiful conservative concepts that our country was founded upon, and is currently practicing behind our wonderful leader george w. bush, and will practice when john mccain is elected in 2008 over whatever democratic scum wishes to challenge him. I cannot wait until the day gay marriage ammendment is added to our constitution (something that will happen very soon)it will be a brilliant day. The diseased should be quarentined, and then treated to fix their illness, and if they cannot be treated they should be placed into an institution.

Leviticus 25:44

44 " 'Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves." (God to the Jews)

Source: www.biblegateway.com (I imagine there's going to be a lot of bible-quoting in this thread- this site might be useful!)

By the way, McCain is NOT Bush... I know plenty of Democrats who think McCain is half-decent... well, I guess that's compared with Bush...

While I'm on the subject, no, the marriage ammendment will not happen 'very soon', it was just defeated yet again...

Stop posting here, EVERYONE! Please! Don't feed the trolls.