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With all the bills in the state senates that are trying to stop minors from buy or renting M rated games I want your opinons on the subject.

...The parents should be the ones looking at the box and realizing the M means "17+". Not to mention Video games aren't causing crime. If they're related at all, they're reducing it...Or reducing teenage pregnancy, something like that.

With all the bills in the state senates that are trying to stop minors from buy or renting M rated games I want your opinons on the subject.
my opinion?

If parents and other adults took responsibility for what their kids bought and played, then these bills wouldn't exsist.

I'm pretty sure there's no evidence, but I still support the bill because, well, they're rated Mature for a reason.

No, it does not cause crime.

If the gamer is already mentally unstable, possibly. For the rest of us, no. Oh, and people cause crime. There's going to be an NRA echo in this thread.

I understand that strategy games like Civilization IV are more popular than violent games like Grand Theft Auto. Perhaps this whole issue is overblown?

The current law moving through not only bans children buying M rated games, but it bans anybody from giving them one, including their parents.

No, they don't. And no, stores shouldn't rent or sell M rated games to kids. If kids want to buy an M rated game they should ask their parents to buy it for them.

Recent studies have shown that juviniles involved in crime has been on the decline since the 1950's. Maybe videogames fulfill a need?
No I don't have a link to the studies, find them on your own.

The current law moving through not only bans children buying M rated games, but it bans anybody from giving them one, including their parents.
Damn government, telling me how to raise my kids.

Damn government, telling me how to raise my kids.
blame those that can't raise theirs.

Recent studies have shown that juviniles involved in crime has been on the decline since the 1950's. Maybe videogames fulfill a need?
No I don't have a link to the studies, find them on your own.
According to the FBI, youth crime is at the lowest rate in history in the US. Video Games are not causing crime. And if they pass that bill, I'm going to probably be breaking the law a lot...

I will not respect a law that is directly against the constituition. That document overrides any law these bastards pass. I will stand by my right as a US citizen. They can throw me in jail, if they like: but that bill is unconsititutional, and I will sue the bastards.

A murderer might play video games. Someone who plays video games is not a murderer.

blame those that can't raise theirs.
I'm glad I don't any.

I'm glad I don't any.
??? do you mean kids?

if so, yeah, I plan on not having any either. I think I might suck as a parent.

Either too strict, or too lenient.

With all the bills in the state senates that are trying to stop minors from buy or renting M rated games I want your opinons on the subject.
Hell no! Congress is just looking for a scapegoat for the increasing violence in the States, and video games happen to be it. I don't know if you've seen the children that play video games 24/7, but they do not look like the type to be commiting crimes. Maybe congress should look at their own welfare system for the answer to preventing violence.

I don't know if you've seen the children that play video games 24/7, but they do not look like the type to be commiting crimes.
24/7? Are they on drugs or what?

Anyway, I like that parents who allow their kids to constantly play videogames also overfeed them. In case they go on a murdering rampage I should be able to outrun them easily.

And personal responsibility goes down the drain....


<------------Played doom2 since it came out.

Also played BF2 and pretty much every shooter that came out. I'm completely harmless unless you are trying to hurt me. Other than that I'm a big vegetable.

The standards for videogames should be the same as standards for any media - whether it's a magazine, movie, or mega man. The universal rating system should be easy to understand - "R" for restricted is just as good as "M" for mature, but they should just decide on one. Most importantly, the average level of sex or violence should be the same in a pg-13 movie or a pg-13 (now known as 'T") game.

all video games do is desencitize the violent crimes no diffrently then then watching a violent movie to many times. video games shouldn't cause urges to commit a crime for the average person, but there are those special cases when people see things like these:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: and want to go rob a convienient store. so the new restraints wont keep the right people away and are useless.

(i apologize 4 my horrible spelling)

all video games do is desencitize the violent crimes no diffrently then then watching a violent movie to many times. video games shouldn't cause urges to commit a crime for the average person, but there are those special cases when people see things like these:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: and want to go rob a convienient store. so the new restraints wont keep the right people away and are useless.

(i apologize 4 my horrible spelling)
You should be glad the UN doesn't have an International-Grammar Crimes Court in The Hauge.

With all the bills in the state senates that are trying to stop minors from buy or renting M rated games I want your opinons on the subject.

Video games do not cause crimes. Slack-jawed morons, criminals, some mentally ill people, and unsocialized kids whose parents put them in front of an expensive video game system to be raised in lieu of actually parenting them cause crimes.

And then lawyers get rich trying to blame the game makers for the failure of the individual and/or his parent.

And then the moral majority causes a tempest in a tea pot wailing over godlessness in games.

I like Quayon

This would probably be more interesting if there was someone on this forum who actually supported these bans. Then we could crush them.

This would probably be more interesting if there was someone on this forum who actually supported these bans. Then we could crush them.
I support not having Minors buying or playing "M" rated games. but I also believe that Games do not cause crime.

I believe that (and yes, I am an avid gamer) you should be within the agegroup of the rating of the game that you are attempting to buy. If this means flashing ID when buying a game, so be it. Ratings are there for a reason, just as ratings for movies are. Parents then, have full discretion in what they are letting their child/young adult play.

If someone has already given this opinion, then good for you! I am too lazy to read through a thread...yes, even one as short as this...*sweatdrop*

BTW: Games don't cause crime! Idiots.

I believe that (and yes, I am an avid gamer) you should be within the agegroup of the rating of the game that you are attempting to buy. If this means flashing ID when buying a game, so be it. Ratings are there for a reason, just as ratings for movies are. Parents then, have full discretion in what they are letting their child/young adult play.

If someone has already given this opinion, then good for you! I am too lazy to read through a thread...yes, even one as short as this...*sweatdrop*

BTW: Games don't cause crime! Idiots.Why? If I want to play an M game, and am responsible, why should I have my constitutional rights stripped from me?

Why? If I want to play an M game, and am responsible, why should I have my constitutional rights stripped from me?

Ask the ESRB.

Why? If I want to play an M game, and am responsible, why should I have my constitutional rights stripped from me?

Because you are a child. You have no rights, really. Until you can vote, you simply don't count.

I don't understand how I am legally able to drive a car by myself at age 16 and yet still considered to immature to buy a violent video game.

And personal responsibility goes down the drain....


<------------Played doom2 since it came out.

Also played BF2 and pretty much every shooter that came out. I'm completely harmless unless you are trying to hurt me. Other than that I'm a big vegetable.
:eek:

COMMIE!!!

*Flees*

Why? If I want to play an M game, and am responsible, why should I have my constitutional rights stripped from me?
Believing yourself to be more responsible than others in your age group does not make it so, nor does it allow you to recieve privleges that come with age before everyone else.

Because you are a child. You have no rights, really. Until you can vote, you simply don't count.

What she said. :D

When you are 18 you can play whatever sadistic, violent, psychopathic game you wish. :)

The ESRB is an advisory: it is not a government organization. If it is deemed okay by my guardians, why can't I play such a game? Would it be okay to block me from nationstates because I'm too young to be exposed to ideas contrary to the government?

The ESRB is an advisory: it is not a government organization. If it is deemed okay by my guardians, why can't I play such a game? Would it be okay to block me from nationstates because I'm too young to be exposed to ideas contrary to the government?
Ideas contrary to the government have nothing to do with the issue. If your parents think you're mature enough to play an M rated game then they should buy it for you.

The ESRB is an advisory: it is not a government organization. If it is deemed okay by my guardians, why can't I play such a game? Would it be okay to block me from nationstates because I'm too young to be exposed to ideas contrary to the government?

What kind of hole do you live in?

A) I said that parents have full discretion in the area. Heck, they don't even have to let you have a console for goodness' sake!

B) The American government (effing Bush) IS attempting to regulate the internet. To keep people safe and all, I'm sure.

Bastard American government...

I don't understand how I am legally able to drive a car by myself at age 16 and yet still considered to immature to buy a violent video game.

You're "too immature" to buy a beer until 21, or a cigarrette until 18.

Statutory laws are uniquely stupid, in that they try to make broad generalizations about people based on age...but we've been doing it forever.

I would think the least of your problems would be worrying about getting a copy of Resident Evil XII.

Statutory laws are uniquely stupid, in that they try to make broad generalizations about people based on age...but we've been doing it forever.

Unless you've a better way of doing it...

Ideas contrary to the government have nothing to do with the issue. If your parents think you're mature enough to play an M rated game then they should buy it for you.
I sense a misunderstanding here. I'm fine with my parents being able to regulate what I can buy and such (they're always with me when I buy video games) but I am not okay with the government telling me that I cannot play a certain even with my parents permission.

And if those bastards get their hands on the internet, well...my parents are lawyers...and they know many other lawyers. One way or another, there will be hell to pay (no, I'm not one of those idiots who has a myspace account. Those idiots are going to ruin the internet for everyone, I swear.)

I sense a misunderstanding here. I'm fine with my parents being able to regulate what I can buy and such (they're always with me when I buy video games) but I am not okay with the government telling me that I cannot play a certain even with my parents permission.

And if those bastards get their hands on the internet, well...my parents are lawyers...and they know many other lawyers. One way or another, there will be hell to pay (no, I'm not one of those idiots who has a myspace account. Those idiots are going to ruin the internet for everyone, I swear.)
Ah, well that is reasonable. It makes perfect sense for parents to be allowed buy M rated games(or any rating for that matter) for their child/ren if they consider them to be mature enough. Considering that they'd be the only ones who'd know if their child was mature enough.

Ah, well that is reasonable. It makes perfect sense for parents to be allowed buy M rated games(or any rating for that matter) for their child/ren if they consider them to be mature enough. Considering that they'd be the only ones who'd know if their child was mature enough.
Exactly. I am fine if my parents decide not to let me buy Grand Theft Auto. However, I am not okay with the government making it illegal for me to own Halo 3.

You're "too immature" to buy a beer until 21, or a cigarrette until 18.

Statutory laws are uniquely stupid, in that they try to make broad generalizations about people based on age...but we've been doing it forever.

I would think the least of your problems would be worrying about getting a copy of Resident Evil XII.

Most teenagers are too immature to drink until around 18 or so. The ones mature enough should also be mature enough to not let it bother them.

Ah, well that is reasonable. It makes perfect sense for parents to be allowed buy M rated games(or any rating for that matter) for their child/ren if they consider them to be mature enough. Considering that they'd be the only ones who'd know if their child was mature enough.

*goggles at*

This is NOT the stance he is taking! That is MY stance! He's saying that he wouldn't be allowed to buy a game even if his parents let him!

*brain implodes*

On the contrary, I think playing violent video games is a healthy way for stable adults and teenagers to release tension. I think playing GTA actually makes me less likely to beat down old ladies on the street.

*goggles at*

This is NOT the stance he is taking! That is MY stance! He's saying that he wouldn't be allowed to buy a game even if his parents let him!

*brain implodes*
Um...actually it is. These new laws would stop me from getting the games even if my parents let me. My parents currently control my ability to get games, I don't care about that. I care about the government sticking its ugly nose where it doesn't belong (again). Woot libertarianism!

Well, me and my daddy used to play Doom together when I was only about six/seven or so...and I turned out okay...

Now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to throwing bricks at old people...heh, their spines break real loud when you hit 'em. CRACK, CRUNCH. Haw haw!

I miss my daddy...may he rest in peace...

Um...actually it is. These new laws would stop me from getting the games even if my parents let me. My parents currently control my ability to get games, I don't care about that. I care about the government sticking its ugly nose where it doesn't belong (again). Woot libertarianism!

But but...*sigh*

Okay, see, your parents would still be able to buy games for you, kid. The government would put ratings on them, sure. The government has every right to do that because...well, it's the government. They have to make sure society is peaceful/psychotic so that the public that they rule over is at their optimum position.

But but...*sigh*

Okay, see, your parents would still be able to buy games for you, kid. The government would put ratings on them, sure. The government has every right to do that because...well, it's the government. They have to make sure society is peaceful/psychotic so that the public that they rule over is at their optimum position.
If I recall correctly, this game would prohibit anyone from providing games for underagers, even their parents. Not going to be much way to inforce that (but just in case, I won't buy Xbox Live so they can't, ehem, watch out for my safety).

If I recall correctly, this game would prohibit anyone from providing games for underagers, even their parents. Not going to be much way to inforce that (but just in case, I won't buy Xbox Live so they can't, ehem, watch out for my safety).

"Game"? :confused:

Now I am completely confused.

"Game"? :confused:

Now I am completely confused.
Uh...confused my words. Bill, I meant Bill.

Uh...confused my words. Bill, I meant Bill.

...and what Bill may this be? I was just discussing my point of view...:eek:

...and what Bill may this be? I was just discussing my point of view...:eek:
The bill that the republicans are trying to pass.

The bill that the republicans are trying to pass.

You must forgive my ignorance.

I am Canadian.

You must forgive my ignorance.

I am Canadian.
Sorry, enlightened one.
<Wants to live in Canada.

Video games dont cause crime, nutjob murders cause crime and blame it on video games, leaving people pissed off, and dead.

You must forgive my ignorance.

I am Canadian.
Nonono! What she meant to say was, uh...

"You must forgive my 'ignorance'. However, I was merely toying with your mind." *nods*

Sorry, enlightened one.
<Wants to live in Canada.

*nods*

Well, as long as our PM keeps his head on his shoulders...

*is locked in jail for extremely bad joke*

Video games influence to a degree, but not the sole purpose, its much more complex than that.

*nods*

Well, as long as our PM keeps his head on his shoulders...

*is locked in jail for extremely bad joke*
Lol! But I kinda doubt that anything is really going to happen to the PM. Some idiots who get caught were planning to kill him. Big deal.

Nonono! What she meant to say was, uh...

"You must forgive my 'ignorance'. However, I was merely toying with your mind." *nods*

Teehee. Too Lady-like Gravlen...

Though, I am God...so...

What kind of hole do you live in?

A) I said that parents have full discretion in the area. Heck, they don't even have to let you have a console for goodness' sake!

B) The American government (effing Bush) IS attempting to regulate the internet. To keep people safe and all, I'm sure.

Bastard American government...

Yep, because the American gov't can actually control it. Yeah right..the one thing that's too big and wide for us to control is the one thing we created.

Teehee. Too Lady-like Gravlen...

Though, I am God...so...
Well, it was that or Smite him... And this is such a peaceful thread, so I figured...

Besides, since the Lady spends so little time here these days, it would only be nice to hear some stuff like that once in a while :p

:eek:

COMMIE!!!

*Flees*

it's the weekend man! Of course gravlen I'm a commie! Red on the weekends!

No work, fun and games, payday, etc....Ahh this is the life.

Yep, because the American gov't can actually control it. Yeah right..the one thing that's too big and wide for us to control is the one thing we created.
Yes, exactly like the Chinese government can.

Teehee. Too Lady-like Gravlen...

Though, I am God...so...
*bows before the might of Tweety*;)
:fluffle:

Teehee. Too Lady-like Gravlen...

Though, I am God...so...

You are God? I thought Asbena was God? :confused:

*bows before the might of Tweety*;)
:fluffle:

FD!!!!

:fluffle:

You are God? I thought Asbena was God? :confused:

I have SCRIPTURE. I kick Asbena's butt....and anyway, he's ditched us! :eek:

*bows before the might of Tweety*;)
:fluffle:
*Does so as well*

Hey, mate, one of the quotes in your sig is wrongly attributed. It's from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, not Jedi Academy.

You are God? I thought Asbena was God? :confused:
There are several. You cannot deny the might of Goddess Dakini.
Funny thing is that none of them would probably go by the nickname of "God" IRL, but I do, and I'm not one here.

No, videogames don't cause crime. No scientific evidence exists to that effect, nor does logic support it.

On a related tangent - I'm getting sick and tired of the government senselessly regulating the activities of 'children.' Though not a drop of evidence exists to support the idea that nudity or violent images actually harm 'children,' the state has not ceased in its crusade to 'protect the children from these harmful influences.' Though there exists no logical argument for why, at 18, one is capable of deciding who runs the most powerful nation on earth(and die for that nation) but not ready to enjoy a glass of wine or a cold beer, it is firmly illegal to drink until one is 21. Nor can anyone explain why at 16 I have the capacity to drive a 1000-lb vehicle powered by controlled explosions going 65 mph, but I lack the faculty to decide whether I wish to fornicate with another individual.

It's highly frustrating. What I wouldn't give for an iota of sense in government...

*Does so as well*

Hey, mate, one of the quotes in your sig is wrongly attributed. It's from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, not Jedi Academy.
Only in a videogame-thread :p

FD!!!!

:fluffle:
Hiya, Tweet-ums!:fluffle:
I simply couldn't resist your thread. I thought for a moment I might respond on-topic, but it doesn't look like that'll happen soon.;)

I have SCRIPTURE. I kick Asbena's butt....and anyway, he's ditched us! :eek:

True. I will burn all my idols of him.

*gets bonfire ready*

*bows before the might of Tweety*;)
:fluffle:
Ah! You arrived just in time...

I'm about to punch out, so you've got to keep Tweet Tweet entertained, you hear?

Good man. :p

There are several. You cannot deny the might of Goddess Dakini.

Some kind of war goddess maybe. Find some other god to help you out if you piss her off for you will need assistance.

Is that her comming now? :eek:

*hides from possible appearance of Dakini*

Hiya, Tweet-ums!:fluffle:
I simply couldn't resist your thread. I thought for a moment I might respond on-topic, but it doesn't look like that'll happen soon.;)

Nah, I got here first :D

Go Utracia, go!

*Does so as well*

Hey, mate, one of the quotes in your sig is wrongly attributed. It's from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, not Jedi Academy.
No, it's also from Jedi Academy. Sometimes one of the random Cultists or Reborn say that at some point during an engagement. Usually right before I Force choke them off a ledge or into a river of "liquid-hot mag-ma." It is also in KoTOR. Ooo, I remember what I forgot to put in my sig!
*runs off to update sig*

it's the weekend man! Of course gravlen I'm a commie! Red on the weekends!

No work, fun and games, payday, etc....Ahh this is the life.
And it had been so long since the last time I got to do that, so... :p

Ah! You arrived just in time...

I'm about to punch out, so you've got to keep Tweet Tweet entertained, you hear?

Good man. :p
Gotcha. I'm on it.
*begins entertaining Tweety*

Some kind of war goddess maybe. Find some other god to help you out if you piss her off for you will need assistance.

Is that her comming now? :eek:

*hides from possible appearance of Dakini*
I wouldn't. I have a tendency to make her blush, not flail about in fury. And, no, I don't think that's her. I haven't seen her around much. Must be attracted to different threads.

Gotcha. I'm on it.
*begins entertaining Tweety*
Green light! Go go go!

*flees General*

Think I had a question to answer, I'll see if I get to it when next I'm back here...

Nah, I got here first :D

Go Utracia, go!
Something tells me I couldn't have beat you to the post if I had wanted to.;)

Green light! Go go go!

*flees General*

Think I had a question to answer, I'll see if I get to it when next I'm back here...
*sneaks up cover to cover in ravaged urban war zone*

Gotcha. I'm on it.
*begins entertaining Tweety*

So..what are you going to do for me? :D

Wow. 6 pages and already spamtastic, lol.

I wouldn't. I have a tendency to make her blush, not flail about in fury. And, no, I don't think that's her. I haven't seen her around much. Must be attracted to different threads.

I'm anti-abortion and that seems to annoy her a little. :D

So..what are you going to do for me? :D
Dunno. What do you want me to do?

Wow. 6 pages and already spamtastic, lol.
Hey! Watch your language in the presence of Teh Tweety. I'll not tolerate talk of ASW.

I'm anti-abortion and that seems to annoy her a little. :D
I imagine she doesn't remember me. The last time she hung around a thread long enough to read my response to her post was January or early February.

Hey! Watch your language in the presence of Teh Tweety. I'll not tolerate talk of ASW.

:fluffle:

Why, I thank you for keeping my eyes from that blasphemy...

:fluffle:

Why, I thank you for keeping my eyes from that blasphemy...
Certainly, mistress.:fluffle:
Don't want any Anti-Spam-Warfare 'round these parts.

Certainly, mistress.:fluffle:
Don't want any Anti-Spam-Warfare 'round these parts.

You could at least have followed your sig :D
Initiate Anti-Spam Doctrine November-Oscar-Oscar-Bravo-Sierra.
*fires anti-spam missiles*
... oh, what the hell. Flufflez!

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

By the way, video game's don't cause crimes except in the mentally deranged.

Certainly, mistress.:fluffle:
Don't want any Anti-Spam-Warfare 'round these parts.

That would be most incomfortable...

That would be most incomfortable...

Hmmmm. What do you think of this guy?

http://www.jokaroo.com/funnypictures/scrunchface.html

Certainly, mistress.:fluffle:
Don't want any Anti-Spam-Warfare 'round these parts.
I"M HERE TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM SPAM!!!!!!!!!! :p

You could at least have followed your sig :D
Initiate Anti-Spam Doctrine November-Oscar-Oscar-Bravo-Sierra.
*fires anti-spam missiles*
... oh, what the hell. Flufflez!

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

By the way, video game's don't cause crimes except in the mentally deranged.
*deploys EASCM*
Now we can all enjoy the fluffles.;)

That would be most incomfortable...
Yes, it certainly would.

I"M HERE TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM SPAM!!!!!!!!!! :p
Too late. This thread has already completely degenerated into spam.:cool: :p

Hmmmm. What do you think of this guy?

http://www.jokaroo.com/funnypictures/scrunchface.html

Frightening. Really.

I"M HERE TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM SPAM!!!!!!!!!! :p

My irony radar is pinging. :p

Too late. This thread has already completely degenerated into spam.:cool: :p
Darn. Well, in that case, how's everybody doing?

My irony radar is pinging. :p
Pinging? She broke mine.;) Damn thing's too sensitive.

My irony radar is pinging. :p
You have an irony radar? Can I see it? Please?

Darn. Well, in that case, how's everybody doing?
Better.
Please pose the question "Better?"

http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsite/articles/violence/violence.htm

Hopefully no one has already posted it - I'm too lazy to wade all the way through :D

You have an irony radar? Can I see it? Please?

This calls for something clever.

...

My mind is blanking. Damn. :D

You have an irony radar? Can I see it? Please?
Don't do it! It's a traaap!:p

Too late. This thread has already completely degenerated into spam.:cool: :p

At my bidding, no less.

See Lady? When you were still in your spam ways, you taught me very well, I now I can begin to spam a thread on my own!

*sniffles*

Better.
Please pose the question "Better?"
Better?

At my bidding, no less.

See Lady? When you were still in your spam ways, you taught me very well, I now I can begin to spam a thread on my own!

*sniffles*

Ladamesansmerci is the leader of the international Spamonist conspiracy of corruption of the non-spammers and world spam domination. I know your evil plans!

At my bidding, no less.

See Lady? When you were still in your spam ways, you taught me very well, I now I can begin to spam a thread on my own!

*sniffles*
No, it really was at Gravlen's insistence that I keep you company until our other spambuddies showed up.;)

This calls for something clever.

...

My mind is blanking. Damn. :D
I blame the government...and examinations. *nods sagely*

Better?
"Better get a bucket.":D
*cookie for knowing the reference*

Don't do it! It's a traaap!:p
:rolleyes:

I KNOW it's a trap. I like busting traps. :p

Ladamesansmerci is the leader of the international Spamonist conspiracy of corruption of the non-spammers and world spam domination. I know your evil plans!
*assassinates Hamilay with .308 magnum from half a mile away*

At my bidding, no less.

See Lady? When you were still in your spam ways, you taught me very well, I now I can begin to spam a thread on my own!

*sniffles*
I find it hard to be proud of you now, especially after what you've done to me in minesweeper. :(

No, it really was at Gravlen's insistence that I keep you company until our other spambuddies showed up.;)

Uh-huh. But I was here first! *pouts*

:rolleyes:

I KNOW it's a trap. I like busting traps. :p
I was talking to Utracia.:p

Ladamesansmerci is the leader of the international Spamonist conspiracy of corruption of the non-spammers and world spam domination. I know your evil plans!
Eh. Nobody ever said it was secret.

"Better get a bucket.":D
*cookie for knowing the reference*

Oh, oh.

Monty Python, yes?

Had to use Wiki to get the right Python movie though. :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Creosote

Uh-huh. But I was here first! *pouts*
I know you were. And I couldn't have done it without my Tweet-ums.:fluffle:

No, it really was at Gravlen's insistence that I keep you company until our other spambuddies showed up.;)
Oh, shush you. Let her have her glory. Even though I'm still mad at her for the minesweeper incident, I won't let you *disgusted tone*boys*/disgusted tone* mock her.

I find it hard to be proud of you now, especially after what you've done to me in minesweeper. :(

But..but...

*cries*

*assassinates Hamilay with .308 magnum from half a mile away*
eh. I've already got a personal assassin and it ain't you. Don't worry, I've got more important spamming jobs for you.

I was talking to Utracia.:p
Well, in that case. FD, you don't know ANYTHING. I'm hypnotizing you...

But..but...

*cries*

Crying? Why? Is it because the Carolina Hurricanes just scored?

*crazed laughter*

Crying? Why? Is it because the Carolina Hurricanes just scored?

*crazed laughter*

Hush. Taking out our goalie...ruddy idiots...you should be made to play with YOUR rookie goalie...*mutters*

Oh, oh.

Monty Python, yes?

Had to use Wiki to get the right Python movie though. :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Creosote
Then no cookie for you! I don't accept cheaters. You should be ashamed of yourself. I sentence you to buy all four Monty Python movies and mail me bootleg copies.
*offers cookie to Threadmaster Tweety*

*assassinates Hamilay with .308 magnum from half a mile away*

*grabs fluffles and throws them in front of me to take the bullets :fluffle: :fluffle: *

Oh, shush you. Let her have her glory. Even though I'm still mad at her for the minesweeper incident, I won't let you *disgusted tone*boys*/disgusted tone* mock her.
I wasn't mocking her. I would never mock our precious Tweety. She's too valuable an asset. At whom else could I yell a greeting upon her aptly timed entrance to a thread?

Video games don't cause crime, any more than role playing games, movies, religions or music cause crime. If you are angry, unbalanced, and generally looking for an excuse then those things can provide a focus, but happy, well-adjusted people won't become violent criminals just because the play a particular game, belong to a certain religion, or listen to a song.


If they are really looking for correlations with violent crime, they don't have to look for things as obscure as video games. What do more than 90% of violent criminals have in common? Testicles. Obviously testicles should be outlawed immediately. :p



If I recall correctly, this game would prohibit anyone from providing games for underagers, even their parents. Not going to be much way to inforce that (but just in case, I won't buy Xbox Live so they can't, ehem, watch out for my safety).


Still, that is only going to affect minors who live independently, like emancipated minors (a very small group) and young university students living away from home. As long as there are adults living in the home, most of the junk in the home is considered to belong to them, not to the kids.


Imagine the scene: Police in full riot gear break down the door to your house, they herd your family into the kitchen, pass your dad the search warrant, and then start tearing the place up. Sure enough, they find a game console with a Mature rated game next to it. In a menacing tone of voice, the officer in charge asks, "Who does this belong too?" Your mom answers, "That belongs to my son Timmy, I gave it to him for Christmas." And then the police drag your mom off to jail.

Really? :rolleyes:


If the crime rate ever gets so low that local police forces are actively hunting down kids who own mature rated video games, and the people that bought those games for them, I'd just be thankful that there aren't any real crimes around any more.

eh. I've already got a personal assassin and it ain't you. Don't worry, I've got more important spamming jobs for you.
I know it isn't me. I'm a rogue element, and I won't have him foiling my plots.

Then no cookie for you! I don't accept cheaters. You should be ashamed of yourself. I sentence you to buy all four Monty Python movies and mail me bootleg copies.
*offers cookie to Threadmaster Tweety*

COOKIE!

*munches*

*grabs fluffles and throws them in front of me to take the bullets :fluffle: :fluffle: *
I have you now!
*slits Hamilay's throat with elegant Medieval dagger*
Hehe...that ploy works every time...if the bullet doesn't.

COOKIE!

*munches*

Keep the cookie. Long as I have my pie I'm just perfect.

Hush. Taking out our goalie...ruddy idiots...you should be made to play with YOUR rookie goalie...*mutters*
Imagine if the Oilers beat the Canes with their rookie goalie. That'd be such a burn.

I have you now!
*slits Hamilay's throat with elegant Medieval dagger*
Hehe...that ploy works every time...if the bullet doesn't.

Was it the videogames that made you do it?

Was it the videogames that made you do it?
FD's always been violent, squirrel-ness. :p

COOKIE!

*munches*
That's a good Tweety.
*pats Tweet's head*

Huh. Oilers just scored.

Imagine if the Oilers beat the Canes with their rookie goalie. That'd be such a burn.

THEY SCORED THEY SCORED!

W00T SMITH!

Huh. Oilers just scored.
YES YES YES YES YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

I can't believe I'm cheering for hickville. Eh, better than US teams.

With all the bills in the state senates that are trying to stop minors from buy or renting M rated games I want your opinons on the subject.

Do video games cause crimes? No.

Can they influence crimes?

...

GTA cited as car-chase motive
New York man gets two charges after car chase with cops; thought he could outrun police because he did it in Grand Theft Auto.
From the life-does-not-always-imitate-art department, an Albany, New York, resident was sentenced to jail for second-degree assault and attempted first-degree assault, reports the online branch of Capital 9 News.
Tyrone McMillan was taken into custody last year after leading police on a car chase when officers attempted to pull him over for a parole violation. After slamming into two cars, McMillan told police that he thought he could outrun them because he played games from Rockstar's controversial Grand Theft Auto franchise.
McMillan, in his 30s, apparently thought that his gaming skills translated to the real world. His experience navigating the fictional streets of San Andreas and Vice City with a PlayStation 2 controller led to a 55-minute real-life car chase, part of which had his girlfriend's 11-year-old daughter and her 10-year-old cousin in the backseat. The girls leapt from the moving car while it was turning onto a highway.
But not even hours of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney could help him today, as a court judge slapped him with two concurrent seven-year jail terms. After serving time, he will be on parole for 10 years.
This isn't the first time Rockstar's top-selling franchise has been part of a criminal case. Devin Moore stands trial for the slayings of three Alabama police officers, an act which prosecuting attorneys say was influenced by playing Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.
By Tim Surette -- GameSpot
Posted Apr 13, 2006 2:58 pm PT


http://www.gamespot.com/news/6147626.html
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from the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/leicestershire/3934277.stm

Game blamed for hammer murder


Stefan was repeatedly battered and stabbed by his older friend
The parents of a boy who was murdered with a claw hammer by a friend have blamed a violent video game which the teenage killer was "obsessed" with.
Warren Leblanc, 17, repeatedly stabbed 14-year-old Stefan Pakeerah after luring him to a Leicester park to steal from him on 27 February.

He pleaded guilty to murder at Leicester Crown Court on Wednesday.

Stefan's mother described Leblanc, who confessed to police moments after the assault, as "inherently evil".


Video game 'obsession'

Stefan's mother, Giselle, a research nurse, had to leave court when the evidence in the case became too harrowing.

Following the hearing she said her son's killer had mimicked a game called Manhunt, developed by Edinburgh-based Rockstar North, in which the players score points for violent killings.


Leblanc armed himself with a claw hammer and a knife
Manhunt was banned six months ago in New Zealand by censorship officials.

Mrs Pakeerah said: "I heard some of Warren's friends say that he was obsessed by this game.

"To quote from the website that promotes it, it calls it a psychological experience, not a game, and it encourages brutal killing.

"If he was obsessed by it, it could well be that the boundaries for him became quite hazy."

Mrs Pakeerah, 36, called for violent video games to be banned.

Covered in blood

She said: "I can't believe that this sort of material is allowed in a society where anarchy is not that far removed.

"It should not be available and it should not be available to young people."


I don't play these games but if they are influencing kids to go out and kill people then you don't want them on the shelves

Patrick Pakeerah, victim's father

Leblanc, of Braunstone Frith, Leicester, persuaded his victim to go to nearby Stoke Woods Park, known locally as The Dumps - to meet two girls.

The court heard how he armed himself with a knife and claw hammer to carry out the attack.

He confessed to the killing moments later when he was found covered in blood by two police officers.

Outside court Stefan's father, Patrick, said: "They were playing a game called Manhunt.

"The way Warren committed the murder is how the game is set out - killing people using weapons like hammers and knives.

"There is some connection between the game and what he has done."

Game ban


Echoing his former partner, the civil servant said: "I don't play these games but if they are influencing kids to go out and kill people then you don't want them on the shelves."

When police discovered Stefan, they found he had sustained horrific and fatal injuries.


Giselle Pakeerah has called for a ban on violent video games

The boy had been hit so hard with the hammer he had suffered deep cuts to his head and neck. His head had been fractured in several places.

He had multiple stab wounds, with the knife being plunged so deep that it had caused serious injuries to his kidney and liver.

A spokesman for the Entertainment and Leisure Software Publishers' Association said: "We sympathise enormously with the family and parents of Stefan Pakeerah.


"However, we reject any suggestion or association between the tragic events and the sale of the video game Manhunt.

"The game in question is classified 18 by the British Board of Film Classification and therefore should not be in the possession of a juvenile.

"Simply being in someone's possession does not and should not lead to the conclusion that a game is responsible for these tragic events."

Judge Michael Stokes QC said Leblanc had carried out "a brutal, cold-blooded murder" and could expect a life sentence.

Sentencing was adjourned for reports.

That's a good Tweety.
*pats Tweet's head*

*purr*

FD's always been violent, squirrel-ness. :p
Only when I get really angry, which isn't very often at all, or when it must be done, as the situation dictates. But I do like violent video games. I'm not really a violent person, so they do allow me to express the dormant facets of my personality.

YES YES YES YES YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

I can't believe I'm cheering for hickville. Eh, better than US teams.

I've only picked the Hurricanes as they are U.S. I really don't care about hockey though. I'm planning on watching as many of the matches of the World Cup as I can though, see if I can get interested.

*purr*
:fluffle:

I've only picked the Hurricanes as they are U.S. I really don't care about hockey though. I'm planning on watching as many of the matches of the World Cup as I can though, see if I can get interested.
*chants "BRAZILIA" repeatedly*

*chants "BRAZILIA" repeatedly*

USA! USA! USA!

The team that will surprise all.

FD's always been violent, squirrel-ness. :p

I knew that, but why? What is the source of his destructive behavior?

Does he have childhood issues?
Does he play too many violent video games?
Is he on crack?
Is he just totally nuts for no reason at all?

I knew that, but why? What is the source of his destructive behavior?

Does he have childhood issues?
Does he play too many violent video games?
Is he on crack?
Is he just totally nuts for no reason at all?
Well, he DID get very mad when I was beating him with a spatula. So I'm thinking there was some tramatic event in his past involving spatulas. What's your theory?

Go Oilers Go!

W00t!

USA! USA! USA!

The team that will surprise all.
US SUCKS! US SUCKS!

*flees from the americans on the forum*

US SUCKS! US SUCKS!

*flees from the americans on the forum*

I'm sure you just don't like the idea of Americans coming to dominate that sport. We've sucked for decades and now that we have a chance... Best not to think about it right? :)

US SUCKS! US SUCKS!

*flees from the americans on the forum*

Eh, don't worry, we probably do suck. I'm on your side...Yay Michigan! We hate Ohio and we're half Canadian!

I knew that, but why? What is the source of his destructive behavior?

Does he have childhood issues?
Does he play too many violent video games?
Is he on crack?
Is he just totally nuts for no reason at all?
No one knows. No one at all. Except myself, of course.

I'm sure you just don't like the idea of Americans coming to dominate that sport. We've sucked for decades and now that we have a chance... Best not to think about it right? :)
I still think you have no chance of even getting into the quarters. Besides, you guys aren't good at every sport there is, despite what you might want to believe.

Eh, don't worry, we probably do suck. I'm on your side...Yay Michigan! We hate Ohio and we're half Canadian!
Yeah, people in Michigan are so Canadian that it's kind of scary...

USA! USA! USA!

The team that will surprise all.

Don't kid yourself man. We're not gonna make it out of the first round.

Well, he DID get very mad when I was beating him with a spatula. So I'm thinking there was some tramatic event in his past involving spatulas. What's your theory?
Nope, nothing involving spatulas. I was just in a very volatile mood yesterday (I'm tripolar. *nods*). Much better today.

Don't kid yourself man. We're not gonna make it out of the first round.
Well, i'm going to give them enough credit that they're going to get out of their group, but in second place after Italy, me think'st. They're going to have a tough time beating down the Czech Republic.

Well, he DID get very mad when I was beating him with a spatula. So I'm thinking there was some tramatic event in his past involving spatulas. What's your theory?

would you like a spatula?! A spatula for your bunghole?

I believe that the parents and the people who take video games too seriously are responsible. Parents who let there minor children buy mature rated games should think more about what they're doing. I love video games but after playing them, such as grand theft auto, i've learned that they are a little too violent for a 7 or 8 yr. old kid. The games probably exposes that kid to different situations which he/she will think is alright to be doing.

would you like a spatula?! A spatula for your bunghole?

Hush. Threaten the Lady again and you shall not HAVE a bunghole.

would you like a spatula?! A spatula for your bunghole?
I AM CORNHOLIO!!

Hush. Threaten the Lady again and you shall not HAVE a bunghole.
LOL I don't think that's what he meant.

I AM CORNHOLIO!!

Oh, no. Here I thought I'd never hear that again.

Guess I was wrong.

Eh, don't worry, we probably do suck. I'm on your side...Yay Michigan! We hate Ohio and we're half Canadian!

Of course you don't like Ohio. Ohio State kicks Michigan's ass repeatedly in football. You have no choice but to not like us. ;)

LOL I don't think that's what he meant.

It was what was implied!

*sticks to guns*

Oh, no. Here I thought I'd never hear that again.

Guess I was wrong.
Sorry. Couldn't help myself.:D

It was what was implied!

*sticks to guns*
No, I don't think it was.
*uses razor blades to cut guns from Tweety's hands*

No, I don't think it was.
*uses razor blades to cut guns from Tweety's hands*

*bleeds*

Aw, now look at what you've done...I look emo...

*dons black make-up and dismal attitude*

No, I don't think it was.
*uses razor blades to cut guns from Tweety's hands*
:eek:

DON"T YOU DARE HURT HER! *pulls out hand grenades*

*bleeds*

Aw, now look at what you've done...I look emo...

*dons black make-up and dismal attitude*

Don't forget the music. Need something to fit your new mood.

I AM CORNHOLIO!!

Yeah, I knew that jokes was hit or miss.

*prepares to deflect hand grenades with spatula while cursing Jolt*

Don't forget the music. Need something to fit your new mood.
Tweety's already got the appropriate music from me, doesn't she? ;)

:eek:

DON"T YOU DARE HURT HER! *pulls out hand grenades*
Keep your skirt down. I didn't hurt her. She said her hands were sticking to her guns, so I did her a favor of carefully slipping the razor blades between flesh and metal to sever the adhesive.

No Tweets were harmed in the making of this spam.

Yeah, I knew that jokes was hit or miss.

*prepares to deflect hand grenades with spatula while cursing Jolt*
I made it hit home.:D

Tweety's already got the appropriate music from me, doesn't she? ;)

Give me some dark music examples! We should all have some depressing tunes.

Tweety's already got the appropriate music from me, doesn't she? ;)

Too true. And I finally managed, after months of working the system, to get those audio files off of the CD you gave me. Daniel can be such a tempermental jerk...

Keep your skirt down. I didn't hurt her. She said her hands were sticking to her guns, so I did her a favor of carefully slipping the razor blades between flesh and metal to sever the adhesive.
The usage of the bolded word in this post is considered by the spam queen herself to be sexist. Therefore, she will be suing one Fascist Dominion for all of his possessions.

Give me some dark music examples! We should all have some depressing tunes.
Give me your msn and I can send you over some.

Disclaimer: I will not hold any responsibility after the music has been transfered if Trace ends up sad, depressed, or possibly emo. :p

The usage of the bolded word in this post is considered by the spam queen herself to be sexist. Therefore, she will be suing one Fascist Dominion for all of his possessions.
I do not contest.
Total assets awarded to the Lady: zero.:D

Give me your msn and I can send you over some.

Disclaimer: I will not hold any responsibility after the music has been transfered if Trace ends up sad, depressed, or possibly emo. :p
Your disclaimer is the reason I won't ask for any.;)

Give me your msn and I can send you over some.

Disclaimer: I will not hold any responsibility after the music has been transfered if Trace ends up sad, depressed, or possibly emo. :p

Hope you mean e-mail as I know how to use nothing else.

Consequence of having no life. :(

I do not contest.
Total assets awarded to the Lady: zero.:D
*kills FD*

*inherits all his possessions anyway*

Hope you mean e-mail as I know how to use nothing else.

Consequence of having no life. :(
Emails don't have enough space for me to attach the files...do they? I could give it a shot. But you wouldn't be getting to much music.

*kills FD*

*inherits all his possessions anyway*
Either way, you get nothing.:D I have no possessions.:p

i read a report on this a while back. cant remember the source so sorry cant post it here.

the source said that the gaming industry has grown since 2000 and violent crime rates has been dropping since 2000. this shows a negative relationship between video games and violence

Either way, you get nothing.:D I have no possessions.:p
For some reason, I have trouble believing that. :p

Emails don't have enough space for me to attach the files...do they? I could give it a shot. But you wouldn't be getting to much music.
10MB Enough for a song. Or maybe two really short ones.

*kills FD*

*inherits all his possessions anyway*

You've been living Common Law with FD?!

Why didn't I know?!

I saw someone who said this on Comedy Central once



Voice: Kill Kill
Man: Satan?
Voice: No iTs a meee Mario!

For some reason, I have trouble believing that. :p
Why?

Emails don't have enough space for me to attach the files...do they? I could give it a shot. But you wouldn't be getting to much music.

Ah. Well do you just have a list? I'm sure I could listen to the partials that bands let you listen to and if it sounds good there is Limewire. :)

You've been living Common Law with FD?!

Why didn't I know?!
You didn't ask. *shrugs*

10MB Enough for a song. Or maybe two really short ones.
Okay, what's your email address then?

I saw someone who said this on Comedy Central once



Voice: Kill Kill
Man: Satan?
Voice: No iTs a meee Mario!
LMAO That's great! I'm adding that to my list of sigworthy material.

I do not believe video games cause crime. I've been playing M rated games since before I was 10 years old. Then again I knew better than to go slice off a womans breast with an axe in real life after doing it in a video game...

... okay, I didn't ever actually play a video game that did that, but I didn't go on a shooting rampage!

You've been living Common Law with FD?!

Why didn't I know?!
I forgot to tell you. :p

Besides, it's not like you are going to be supportive :p

Okay, what's your email address then?
I use MSN Messenger, if that's easier.frellyou@hotmail.com

You didn't ask. *shrugs*

But but...she got married before me!

How on earth could that happen?!

But but...she got married before me!

How on earth could that happen?!
Don't know what to tell ya, Tweet-ums....

But but...she got married before me!

How on earth could that happen?!
Married? Whoever said I'm married? I'm just roommates with him. Stupid law saying a man and a woman living together for longer than half a year is married. :rolleyes: :p

10MB Enough for a song. Or maybe two really short ones.

Really? My MSN Hotmail tells me I have 250 MB.

Really? My MSN Hotmail tells me I have 250 MB.
That's for storage. 10MB is for attachments.

Don't know what to tell ya, Tweet-ums....

Ach, her parents and I bless the two of you...

Married? Whoever said I'm married? I'm just roommates with him. Stupid law saying a man and a woman living together for longer than half a year is married. :rolleyes: :p
:D

Ach, her parents and I bless the two of you...
Thanks!:D

That's for storage. 10MB is for attachments.

*shrugs*

Still, I got plenty of time to kill. A list of bands/songs would be good enough. Could look them up myself. That or figure how to work my MSN Messenger or anything else needed. :D

*shrugs*

Still, I got plenty of time to kill. A list of bands/songs would be good enough. Could look them up myself. That or figure how to work my MSN Messenger or anything else needed. :D
LOL :headbang: :D

LOL :headbang: :D

Don't mock my ignorance mister. Help or pipe down!

*wags finger emphatically*

*shrugs*

Still, I got plenty of time to kill. A list of bands/songs would be good enough. Could look them up myself. That or figure how to work my MSN Messenger or anything else needed. :D
Start with Jack off Jill. They've got enough emo songs to keep you going for a while.

Start with Jack off Jill. They've got enough emo songs to keep you going for a while.

I cannot dispute this.

Don't mock my ignorance mister. Help or pipe down!

*wags finger emphatically*
Can't help it. Sorry. Ask someone who won't insult you.;)

I cannot dispute this.

Hell, the way that band dresses depresses me. Perhaps... yes I think people like that should kill themselves or shut the hell up!

I suppose this opinion is not shared? I don't think anything aproaching emo is for me. :(

Yay Kenna! Definately NOT emo...

Yay Kenna! Definately NOT emo...

I think I'll just stick with the Offspring. Never get tired of them. :)

:eek:
I've got it, I've got it!

Emo music causes crime!! Yeah! There we are! :D
*Proud*

hell no. (http://www.gamerevolution.com/static/index.php?section=feature&sub=violence&page=violence)

:eek:
I've got it, I've got it!

Emo music causes crime!! Yeah! There we are! :D
*Proud*
Only self-inflicted homocide.:p

Only self-inflicted homocide.:p

Wouldn't that be "suicide?"

Or as I call it: "emocide"

Wouldn't that be "suicide?"

Or as I call it: "emocide"
:eek: ZOMG, I call it that, too! But that's why it's illegal. Because it is, in fact self-inflicted homocide, no matter the euphemisms you use.

I understand that strategy games like Civilization IV are more popular than violent games like Grand Theft Auto. Perhaps this whole issue is overblown?

:eek:

Even worse. The Civ franchise is obviously breeding a new generation of miin-Napoleon's!

Only self-inflicted homocide.:p
Yes, but (and here you'll notice I've been hanging around the serious threads too much today) since the suicide by the detainees at Guantanamo is an act of war, therefor the suicide of any emo would be a crime. And if said suicide is done after listening to emo music (Like Britney Spears, whom could make anybody emo) then... Playing emo music would perhaps be seen as an act of terror? Yeah! We're on to something here! I don't know what, but it sure is something!

hell no. (http://www.gamerevolution.com/static/index.php?section=feature&sub=violence&page=violence)With all those graphs the stats seem to drop in 1994. Every single one. Why? GOP taking Congress? What happened in 1994 to cause that? Violent crime, gun incidents, homicide in all age groups. All of it.

Carjacking, the main thing you do in Grand Theft Auto, is down 50% since the game came out.
:cool:

i think all major wars should be decided from now on in a Galaga contest.


i would be the US representative. :D





P.S. Galaga kicks ass.

Yes, but (and here you'll notice I've been hanging around the serious threads too much today) since the suicide by the detainees at Guantanamo is an act of war, therefor the suicide of any emo would be a crime. And if said suicide is done after listening to emo music (Like Britney Spears, whom could make anybody emo) then... Playing emo music would perhaps be seen as an act of terror? Yeah! We're on to something here! I don't know what, but it sure is something!
And if it's an act of terror, it's definitely an act of war. *nods*
So...we should declare war on emos!!
It's decided. *nods* I think I figured it out.:p

And if it's an act of terror, it's definitely an act of war. *nods*
So...we should declare war on emos!!
It's decided. *nods* I think I figured it out.:p
I agree.

Cry Havoc! and let's slip the Dogs of War! CHAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!

*Impales an emo upon the lance*

Video games don't kill people, unless thrown really really hard.

I agree.

Cry Havoc! and let's slip the Dogs of War! CHAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!

*Impales an emo upon the lance*

Don't allude to "Julius Caesar." It's over done.

Only WACKOS could vote "YES" on this poll!

With all the bills in the state senates that are trying to stop minors from buy or renting M rated games I want your opinons on the subject.

I'm majoring in psychology. I have yet to meet a fellow psychologist that agrees with these alarmists that video games are a direct cause of violence. If anything, it's the examples of behaviour demonstrated by the childrens' family that would determine it. If you grow up with parents that don't teach you how to control yourself, or they lash out, you'll grow up along the same lines, most likely. People need to stop blaming the games for a moment and quite possibly blame the parents. Granted, I don't think exposing young children to violent and/or lewd games a wise choice, but I do not think it will necessarily bring about those same behaviours.

I agree.

Cry Havoc! and let's slip the Dogs of War! CHAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!

*Impales an emo upon the lance*
Scalp ‘em, and take their wannabe rebellious haircuts as horrendous trophies of out glorious victory! Hazah!

Don't allude to "Julius Caesar." It's over done.
I'm not. I'm alluding to "The Postman" with Kevin Costner, the fruit of all evil! :p

Yes, but (and here you'll notice I've been hanging around the serious threads too much today) since the suicide by the detainees at Guantanamo is an act of war, therefor the suicide of any emo would be a crime. And if said suicide is done after listening to emo music (Like Britney Spears, whom could make anybody emo) then... Playing emo music would perhaps be seen as an act of terror? Yeah! We're on to something here! I don't know what, but it sure is something!

Personally, I can't wait for the door to be kicked in on the next Fallout Boy concert by Delta Force. :D

I agree.

Cry Havoc! and let's slip the Dogs of War! CHAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!

*Impales an emo upon the lance*
*throws emos off stone walls onto pikes*
That'll teach 'em.

Scalp ‘em, and take their wannabe rebellious haircuts as horrendous trophies of out glorious victory! Hazah!
Nah, the Lady would kick me out for keeping such grizzly trophies.;)
Wait. Was that a cross-thread reference? I'm so confused! :confused:

I'm not. I'm alluding to "The Postman" with Kevin Costner, the fruit of all evil! :p
I'm going to pretend you defended alluding to The Tragedy of Julius Caesar.;)

I'm going to pretend you defended alluding to The Tragedy of Julius Caesar.;)
I think that would be best for all parties involved.
:)






*Parties*
:D

I think that would be best for all parties involved.
:)






*Parties*
:D
Party! Woohoo!:D
*parties*