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Whats going on in britain ?

Ultraextreme Sanity
10-06-2006, 23:00
Police criticised over "chemical bomb" raid
Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:23 PM BST
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LONDON (Reuters) - Muslim groups and a body which oversees policing have accused police of making a series of errors in a dramatic counter-terrorism raid in London last week during which they shot one of two men arrested.

Police freed 20-year-old Abul Koyair and 23-year-old Mohammed Abdul Kahar without charges on Friday and have admitted that they did not find the bomb which they said was the focus of the dawn raid on the house in east London.

Murad Qureshi, one of the Metropolitan Police Authority's 23 members said police had to learn from "a series of mistakes" made in the raid.


"They cover everything from the collection of intelligence and how you corroborate that ... through to how the suspects are actually dealt with, particularly in this case how we find ourselves with one of the brothers shot," he told BBC radio.

The Authority is charged with ensuring that London's police are accountable for the services they provide to people in the capital and is comprised of people appointed by the Mayor of London, magistrates and the cabinet minister in charge of law enforcement.

More than 250 officers took part in the raid on the house in the ethnically mixed neighbourhood of Forest Gate on June 2, which Muslim groups have slammed as heavy handed.

Muslim campaigners were planning to stage a demonstration on Sunday outside Scotland Yard, the Metropolitan Police's London headquarters, to voice their anger at what they called "rising islamophobia".

"With the intensification of 'terror raids' throughout the country

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-06-10T182311Z_01_L09205978_RTRUKOC_0_UK-SECURITY-BRITAIN.xml


They shot a guy durring the raid? But found nothing to charge them with ????


British police apologise for raid on home

Hasan Suroor




LONDON: Police have been forced to apologise for last week's dramatic raid on the house of a Bangladeshi family in east London during which a young man was shot at and later arrested with his younger brother on suspicion of planning a terror attack allegedly using a chemical device.

The apology followed growing anger among residents of Forest Gate, a predominantly immigrant neighbourhood with a large Pakistani and Bangladeshi population, as it emerged that even after a week - long search police had not able to find any evidence that the house was being used as a "bomb factory'', as they had alleged.

Abdul Kahar (23) who was wounded in the shooting and his brother Abdul Koyar (20) were released on Friday without charge in the absence of any evidence against them. Right-wing Muslim groups seized on the incident to claim that police were "deliberately targeting'' their community


http://www.hindu.com/2006/06/11/stories/2006061100051400.htm
Londim
10-06-2006, 23:02
Actually shot one person and wounded him. Apparently the inteligence came from a 'credible'source.
RLI Returned
10-06-2006, 23:13
It's the Iraq war in miniature really.
Quandary
10-06-2006, 23:31
http://www.hindu.com/2006/06/11/stories/2006061100051400.htm

You read The Hindu? That's rare in these parts.
Ifreann
10-06-2006, 23:36
It's the Iraq war in miniature really.
Apt. I like it.
RLI Returned
10-06-2006, 23:37
Apt. I like it.

I stole it from Ian Hislop on 'Have I got news for you'.
Xandabia
11-06-2006, 00:07
The thing that worries me is the level of marksmanship shown by our policeforce. They seem to have been trained at the Imperial Stormtrooper school of marksmanship. They had to shoot that unarmed Brazilian guy seven times in the head and once in the shoulder from close range and still managed to miss him with three other bullets.
Ifreann
11-06-2006, 00:15
The thing that worries me is the level of marksmanship shown by our policeforce. They seem to have been trained at the Imperial Stormtrooper school of marksmanship. They had to shoot that unarmed Brazilian guy seven times in the head and once in the shoulder from close range and still managed to miss him with three other bullets.
They should make the police play FPS's. Get the concept of 'boom headshot' across to them.
Anarchic Christians
11-06-2006, 00:29
They should make the police play FPS's. Get the concept of 'boom headshot' across to them.

Well our cops don't have to deal with holdups and stuff the way the US does. If things are really bad we call out the SAS instead.
Zagat
11-06-2006, 07:58
The intelligence said....come on just because all evidence on the spot indicated that the 'bomb' puportedly searched for didnt exist, and couldnt be found anywhere in the house, doesnt mean the search ought to be abandoned short of pulling the whole house down.

No one should assume that the 'intelligence' leading to the raid was any less robust than the intelligence that led to the discovery that Saddam had a 45 minute nuclear launch capability, nor should they be concerned that perhaps the intelligence was some anomynous phone call by either an enemy of the family concerned who figured the incompetence of the police would actually lead to such a raid happening short of good reason, or a real terrorist hoping to have innocent people infringed on in this way in order to waste police resources, void trust in police competence, or to generally cause distrust in order to increase the difficulty of catching actual criminals....