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We've got the Doctor Who finale coming up in less than half an hour! And we've got Daleks! This is gonna kick ass!

Woot! Go USians. You bastards.

(It's 'cause of you we're not getting series 2 'til the fall, you see.)

*kills crappy college cable provider with sharpened lava lamp*

"Ex-ter-mi-nate! Clu-ich-stan!"

Please, don't mind those metallic contraptions over on the street corner. After all, they're only Daleks... ;)

*kills crappy college cable provider with sharpened lava lamp*

No Sci-Fi Channel for you? :eek:

No Sci-Fi Channel for you? :eek:

Nope. None for poor TSI. :(

"Ex-ter-mi-nate! Clu-ich-stan!"

Please, don't mind those metallic contraptions over on the street corner. After all, they're only Daleks... ;)

Gawd, I love the Daleks. I've got the "Ex-ter-min-ate!" thing as my ringtone on my mobile! :D

Nope. None for poor TSI. :(

Ouch!

And we've got Daleks! This is gonna kick ass!

Just wait till Davros makes his appearance about half way through.

Just wait till Davros makes his appearance about half way through.


Prick

Prick

The question is: do you believe me or am I just playing with you?

The question is: do you believe me or am I just playing with you?
Dude, he's in the ads...

Dude, he's in the ads...

Emperor Dalek != Davros.*


* Remembrance Of The Daleks excepted, obviously.

Ah, I forgot to mention, I now have a Dalek of my very own.

http://homepage.mac.com/twoirishgeeks/images/Dalek.jpg

Just like this one. Twelve arrogant inches of shrieking metal-clad hatred.

We've got the Doctor Who finale coming up in less than half an hour! And we've got Daleks! This is gonna kick ass!
is that the one that started with Gamestation 5?

Nope. None for poor TSI. :(
my sister tapes it. puts it on DVD. and makes me dance for a copy. :(

my sister tapes it. puts it on DVD. and makes me dance for a copy. :(
Lol. *Makes a note reminding myself to use this on my little brother*

Well, alright. It played in California, so unless there are posters in Hawaii it's pretty safe to go on about it...

I really liked this Doctor, it's really too bad-this new one, I don't know...I guess they went through the first one fast to establish the concept early. Or, you know, some other reason that everyone already knows about but me...

Interesting man kiss.

The flashing lights without the sound of "EXTERMINATE" was cool.

I like that the Tardis still 'flys' like it's being drug along on a string, flipping about...

A bit of a Deus Ex Machina ending. Somewhere I got the impression that there where going to be Cybermen in the final episodes (I knew that wasn't the case by last week, but anyway...)

Well, alright. It played in California, so unless there are posters in Hawaii it's pretty safe to go on about it...

JuNii is in Hawaii, I think.

Damn, I watched the first season, but missed the second (haven't seen any mention of it here in Canada).:(

Doctor Who, who?

JuNii is in Hawaii, I think.
D'oh...oh, well-he should be watching it right now instead of reading this, so we should still be cool.

yes, Deus Ex Machina, in a literal sense, but not too contrived.
but, do you seriously think the Daleks are truely gone? perhaps, if they were stupid enough to purge their own ancestors.
but I guess timewar is essentially a Standalone complex. or an Oroborus causality. depending on how you look at it.

is this the finale that started on gamestation 5 or the next season?

(It's 'cause of you we're not getting series 2 'til the fall, you see.)

I wish I could say the wait was worth it...

The one on air in the UK this evening has the Ood in it.

Slimy fellows.

We've got the Doctor Who finale coming up in less than half an hour! And we've got Daleks! This is gonna kick ass!

Is this series one or two?

I refuse to accept that people watch that show, anywhere, ever, so what are you on about it?

Prick

So am I forgiven?

Is this series one or two?

Series one. It just wrapped up on the Sci-Fi Channel here in the US. I hafta say, too, I really liked this Doctor. I'm a bit leery about the next one.

And yes, BWO, you're forgiven. ;)

We've got the Doctor Who finale coming up in less than half an hour! And we've got Daleks! This is gonna kick ass!
Ex-ter-min-ate! Ex-ter-min-ate! :D

Ex-ter-min-ate! Ex-ter-min-ate! :D

Eut's a Dalek! I knew it! :eek:

Eut's a Dalek! I knew it! :eek:
Mwahahahaha! :D

If you think the Daleks kick ass, wait til you get the next series and meet the new improved cybermen.
I just loved how they stomp about looking so staunch, like they're carrying a roll of carpet under each arm.

If you think the Daleks kick ass, wait til you get the next series and meet the new improved cybermen.
I just loved how they stomp about looking so staunch, like they're carrying a roll of carpet under each arm.
I was actually a little disappointed by the latest incarnation of the Cybermen. I thought they were cooler when they made no noise.

Question, if Cybermen don't feel pain or anything, why doo they scream when they die?

Who the hell is this Doctor Who?

Who the hell is this Doctor Who?
Treason!

Question, if Cybermen don't feel pain or anything, why doo they scream when they die?
Didn't you watch the 2nd episode? They have emotion inhibiter chips and a central nervous system. They don't feel emotion, but that doesn't necessarily mean they don't feel pain. Maybe when they got seriously damaged, the chip broke.

I was actually a little disappointed by the latest incarnation of the Cybermen. I thought they were cooler when they made no noise.

I thought the new/alternative cybermen weren't too bad, and certainly an improvement on any of their post-Troughton incarnations, but for my money the best cybermen remain the original open/closed-mouth ones from the Hartnell era. I have nothing against camp, but cyberleaders doing groin thrusts with their hands on their hips as they declare things 'EXCELLENT', is just too much for me. It was kind of strange seeing a credit to the writer of Spare Parts as an inspiration on the cybermen two-parter, especially since Spare Parts was by a long mile a much, much better story.

The best version of the cybermen:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/First_Cybermen.jpg

D'oh...oh, well-he should be watching it right now instead of reading this, so we should still be cool.no worries, my Sis keeps me updated... :cool:



as long as I can keep dancing that is. :D

Mwahahahaha! :D
>.>
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BAD WOLF!

I think it'll be interesting with the new Doc. The same actor that played Bartie Crouch Jr. in GoF.

This finale was excellent. But I really have to wonder if Cap'n Jack will be back in the next series.

I thought the new/alternative cybermen weren't too bad, and certainly an improvement on any of their post-Troughton incarnations, but for my money the best cybermen remain the original open/closed-mouth ones from the Hartnell era. I have nothing against camp, but cyberleaders doing groin thrusts with their hands on their hips as they declare things 'EXCELLENT', is just too much for me. It was kind of strange seeing a credit to the writer of Spare Parts as an inspiration on the cybermen two-parter, especially since Spare Parts was by a long mile a much, much better story.

The best version of the cybermen:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/First_Cybermen.jpg
Odd. My clear memory of the original cybermen is that they had no voice at all, which I found uniquely scary. But you're right, they did speak. I guess my personal emotional inhibiter of choice at that age, The Cushion, must also have been effective against sound waves.

The best version of the cybermen:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/First_Cybermen.jpg
Storywise, maybe. But lookwise, the new ones are way cooler:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41005000/jpg/_41005944_cyberman300.jpg
I love their flared leg-end armour look and big clumpy boots. Almost disco-ish.

Storywise, maybe. But lookwise, the new ones are way cooler:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41005000/jpg/_41005944_cyberman300.jpg
I love their flared leg-end armour look and big clumpy boots. Almost disco-ish.
kinda looks like The Iorn Man's Golden Avenger armor design

kinda looks like The Iron Man's Golden Avenger armor design
Now that you mention it, it does.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41005000/jpg/_41005944_cyberman300.jpg

http://home.mtholyoke.edu/~kaspella/xmenpictures/M_IronMan.jpg
Compare for those who don't know what I'm talking about.

Do you think they'll ever make an "Iron Man" movie?
I think it could work and be pretty cool.


Just to add to the similarities - the new cybermen kill by electricity coming out of their hands. Kinda like Ironman's blasters, though not as powerful.

Storywise, maybe. But lookwise, the new ones are way cooler:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41005000/jpg/_41005944_cyberman300.jpg
I love their flared leg-end armour look and big clumpy boots. Almost disco-ish.

Meh. I like the fact that the earliest versions do look fucked up, ugly and unfinished. The design of the alternative-cybermen is one which has been created by human artists and designers in the corporation, whereas the old ones were just something which a scientist concerned more with getting something working would throw together. Their lack of attractive aesthetic creates a stronger link to the whole debate about transplant culture and the mechanisation of the human, whereas the new ones just look too otherly. The first Hartnell cybermen were Frankenstein's monsters, whereas the Tennant cybermen were Metropolis.


Maybe this just reflects the difference in popular culture as far as the attitude to consumer uptake of new technology between the 60's and our current decade: technology is now embraced and desired, if only often for reasons of fashion or look. It is now sexy, whereas cutting edge technology of the 60's always had something clumpy, oversized, cumbersome and unfinished about it. Anybody want to draw a relation between the introduction of miniaturised production techniques in the Far East and the much more sleek designs of cybermen that we saw in the 70's?

This finale was excellent. But I really have to wonder if Cap'n Jack will be back in the next series.

Not that I know of, but he is set to star in the Doctor Who spin-off Torchwood (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0485301/).

IMDB doesn't have him down in any of the current series (Well, it lists him as being in the one on recently, but he wasn't in it, so maybe he might be in a future one and there is a mistake).


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Personally I wasn't hugely impressed with the new Cybermen (bear in mind I haven't seen any of the old Doctor Who for the next part). They seemed to me to be a rehashing of the last season's Daleks.

Big boss robot (Robo-Lumic/Dalek Emperor), terminal catch-phrase (Exterminate, Exterminate/ Delete, Delete, Delete).

Maybe I was missing something, but I wasn't hugely impressed. Meh, gotta track down the old serials.

Though it did inspire a very good cartoon by Steve Bell.

2nd episode of the current season is pretty damn good. Bringing back some classic characters and I thought the story telling was pretty good. The series is darker, the background music is moodier. The acting got better and the story lines are awesome. Its all grown up, but I still like the corny previous 26 or so seasons.

I thought Christopher Eccleston did an excellent job as the Dr. He had this sarcasm that made him likable.

David tennant is ok but it was kind of like losing Tom Baker in the original run. You get used to an actor and how he does his lines and you hate to see a replacement.

I'm British so we're nearly finished the second season.

David Tennant is sixty gazillion trillion million flillion bliopopopillion times better than the previous Doctor. And that's coming from a fan of Chris's acting.

I'm British so we're nearly finished the second season.

David Tennant is sixty gazillion trillion million flillion bliopopopillion times better than the previous Doctor. And that's coming from a fan of Chris's acting.

Cool, I only have seen the first 3 episodes and that horrible Christmas one.

I am a fan of sarcasm which is why I liked Chris's version.

Do you think they'll ever make an "Iron Man" movie?
I think it could work and be pretty cool.


Just to add to the similarities - the new cybermen kill by electricity coming out of their hands. Kinda like Ironman's blasters, though not as powerful.
Yes they will (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371746/). It looks like it's directed by Jon Favreau (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0269463/), directer of Made, Swingers and most recently Zathura. He's also directing Jon Carter of Mars (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401729/), which according to the trivia was going to be directed by first Robert Rodriguez before he quit the DGA over Sin City for some reason and then by Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow's Kerry Conran-who I think would have been a fantastic choice.

He look, I over answered a film question. Imagine...

Who the hell is this Doctor Who?

I'm going to hunt you down and destroy you now. :p

What the?
doctor who finale??
What???

ah i see the americans are way way way behind the UK Lol.

ah i see the americans are way way way behind the UK Lol.
Only by one season.

I thought Christopher Eccleston did an excellent job as the Dr. He had this sarcasm that made him likable.

David tennant is ok but it was kind of like losing Tom Baker in the original run. You get used to an actor and how he does his lines and you hate to see a replacement.

I really liked Eccleston as the Doctor. Tom Baker is my favourite Doctor (first episode I ever saw was "Pyramids of Mars" when I was five), but I might rank Eccleston right behind him.

What the?
doctor who finale??
What???
calm down... take deep breaths... and repeat after me.

SEASON finale... SEASON Finale... SEASON Finale....

still way way way behind in my veiw.
Although the story lines were probablly better in the first season...

SEASON finale... SEASON Finale... SEASON Finale....
It's not working!!!

I saw the season finale, and also all the way to episode 6 of season two (burnt DVDs from across the pond) though I didn't see the Christmas specials which I guess were the true first two episodes of season 2? These doctors are comparable so far as I'm concerned. My favorite will always be Sylvester McCoy the seventh.

My favorite will always be Sylvester McCoy the seventh.

You need help. :p

I really liked Eccleston as the Doctor. Tom Baker is my favourite Doctor (first episode I ever saw was "Pyramids of Mars" when I was five), but I might rank Eccleston right behind him.

Tom Baker is probably the most liked in the states because of how many years he was on in England. It translated to a lot of re-runs over here in the states. If you ask anyone that watched the show, most of them only knew Tom Baker. He was the first I remember watching and watched it for years before I knew there were more.

Tom Baker is probably the most liked in the states because of how many years he was on in England. It translated to a lot of re-runs over here in the states. If you ask anyone that watched the show, most of them only knew Tom Baker. He was the first I remember watching and watched it for years before I knew there were more.

I just liked his style, plus he's a sentimental favourite as the first Doctor I saw. I caught up on the earlier ones (well, the episodes that still exist anyway) when they were aired here in the US, and while I really liked the Pertwee stories, Tom Baker is still my favourite.

Woot! Go USians. You bastards.

(It's 'cause of you we're not getting series 2 'til the fall, you see.)

WTF is a Usian?

I am an American...not some lesser USian....

WTF is a Usian?

I am an American...not some lesser USian....

The rest of the Western hemisphere has a beef with you.

Is this series one or two?You're only in the first half of the Hartnell serieses? ;)

(By various counts, the above "series one or two" could be identified as at least "series 27 or 28", by my reckoning. (

But in terms of "21st century Doctor Who" (post-Eccleston), it looks like you in the US are watching Series One, while Series Two is currently on show here in the UK.


(Quickly checking some sources, we're saw, yesterday in the UK, the 178th 'Story', and have already had maybe 340-odd 'pre millenium' episodes. Am I showing my geekiness yet? ;))

You're only in the first half of the Hartnell serieses? ;)


Well, we're restarting the count since it was brought back. Also since the format has changed. No more serial half-hour episodes (remember the last series of the second Doctor? :eek: ).

ah i see the americans are way way way behind the UK Lol.

For a change ;)

WTF is a Usian?

I am an American...not some lesser USian....

Why do you assume USian is lesser? DO you call other countries by their proper name? Do you use Deutschland or Germany? Do you say Espana or Spain?

Get over it DM, you sound like a whiney brat when you complain like this.

I just liked his style, plus he's a sentimental favourite as the first Doctor I saw. I caught up on the earlier ones (well, the episodes that still exist anyway) when they were aired here in the US, and while I really liked the Pertwee stories, Tom Baker is still my favourite.

I liked the Pertwee stories as well. I think I like the actual stories more than the acting. Those 2 are my favorite of the original series.

I could not stand Colin...he seemed a bit of a dandy. Probably the worst one.

Why do you assume USian is lesser? DO you call other countries by their proper name? Do you use Deutschland or Germany? Do you say Espana or Spain?

Get over it DM, you sound like a whiney brat when you complain like this.

Actually, the better question is do you say "Reinos" for Spain and "Bundesrepubliks" for Germany. (As Spain is a Kingdom and Germany a Republic).

We are Americans, of the United States of America. There is no such thing as a USian. Not in common use, not in any media. We are states united (thus United States of America).

As for the rest of the continent, I've never heard of Canadians refer to themselves as otherwise, nor Cubans, etc. SOUTH Americans are from South America. If they wish to become Americans, come here (like so many do), or have their country join our Union. A Chilean is a South American, not a American. QED.

I'm not too sure why american's seem to like the current Doctor who so much. AS I remember it was chock-a-block with cultural references, such as the Anne-droid.
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That pun was so bad it made me laugh... *hides behind a sofa... well if a sofa can protect 70's kids from the Daleks then it can certainly protect me from NS posters*

I think it'll be interesting with the new Doc. The same actor that played Bartie Crouch Jr. in GoF.

This finale was excellent. But I really have to wonder if Cap'n Jack will be back in the next series.

I think he's getting his own.

I'm not too sure why american's seem to like the current Doctor who so much. AS I remember it was chock-a-block with cultural references, such as the Anne-droid.
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That pun was so bad it made me laugh... *hides behind a sofa... well if a sofa can protect 70's kids from the Daleks then it can certainly protect me from NS posters*

Americans know who Anne is so it works. Plus subtle humor, covered in sarcasm is funny.

Americans know who Anne is so it works. Plus subtle humor, covered in sarcasm is funny.

Plus the Anne Droid snuffed 3 Daleks. AND got snuffed in return. That's 4 evil things gone in one fell swoop.

I think he's getting his own.

Yes, Jack is reportedly getting his own show.

I liked the Pertwee stories as well. I think I like the actual stories more than the acting. Those 2 are my favorite of the original series.

I could not stand Colin...he seemed a bit of a dandy. Probably the worst one.

The Pertwee stories were great, but yeah, the acting was rather stiff. And I'd rather forget the Colin Baker years.

And I'd rather forget the Colin Baker years.

One of the ironies with Colin Baker is that despite the fact that his run on the series is almost universally hated, in the Big Finish audios of the four main characters who have played the doctor (the fifth through the eighth), it is in fact Colin Baker who shines best in that environment. It is sufficient to make you think that the problems during his run weren't his fault, but rather belonged to the producer.

One of the ironies with Colin Baker is that despite the fact that his run on the series is almost universally hated, in the Big Finish audios of the four main characters who have played the doctor (the fifth through the eighth), it is in fact Colin Baker who shines best in that environment. It is sufficient to make you think that the problems during his run weren't his fault, but rather belonged to the producer.

I will say this for Colin: watching "Trial of a Time Lord" in one sitting is *Excellent*. Unfortunately, in half hour or so installments, it was only slightly better than watching Monty Python muted with Slovak subtitles. :(