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Please keep in mind it is a one choice poll.
Is it ok for men to shave their legs?

Some men have alot of body hair, others do not, so who cares if a man shaves his legs or not?

Dude, do you shave your legs?

Women welcomed to vote and comment on the thread.

I thought the only guys who shave their legs are bicyclists.

It always annoys me when I hear people go "Guys who shave their legs are fags"

Yes, I've heard it, even when they were talking about swimmers.

I really couldn't give a fuck.. hair, no hair, baby Jesus isn't going to cry.

Waxing is better :eek:

I think it's OK, but I do find shaved legs a turn off. I like my men manly.

Another blasted public poll.

There is no democracy on this forum!

I thought the only guys who shave their legs are bicyclists.
Some of the hardcore hetero ones do, too.

Please keep in mind it is a one choice poll.
Is it ok for men to shave their legs?

Some men have alot of body hair, others do not, so who cares if a man shaves his legs or not?

Dude, do you shave your legs?

Women welcomed to vote and comment on the thread.
It is not only okay, it is often preferable.

But really, lads, it's your chests and backs you need to worry about first. I've heard plenty of guys talk about how gross it is when a girl doesn't shave her legs, but some of them have so much back hair that it comes up out of the back of their collar. Some of them have arm hair that's long enough to tickle your palm when you shake their hand.

There's a reason why male models don't have hairy chests and backs, dudes. Take the hint.

Another blasted public poll.

There is no democracy on this forum!
What does secrecy have to do with democracy?
Especially here; it's not like having an unpopular opinion will cause people to go 'round your house and bum-rape you.

I would think it a bit weird for a bloke to shave theri legs unless they were a swimmer or cyclist or something like that

It is not only okay, it is often preferable.

But really, lads, it's your chests and backs you need to worry about first. I've heard plenty of guys talk about how gross it is when a girl doesn't shave her legs, but some of them have so much back hair that it comes up out of the back of their collar. Some of them have arm hair that's long enough to tickle your palm when you shake their hand.

There's a reason why male models don't have hairy chests and backs, dudes. Take the hint.

Got that right. Back hair is some other kind of freaky. I'm glad I don't have any. :p

Got that right. Back hair is some other kind of freaky. I'm glad I don't have any. :p
Arm pit hair can also be a bit of a problem. It's ok for anybody to have a little tuft going on, but when you put your arms at your sides it should not look like you have Chewbacca in a head lock.

IBut really, lads, it's your chests and backs you need to worry about first.

Back hair = yick. Chest hair = lick.

Chest hair is hotness. There is nothing else to say about it.

Arm pit hair can also be a bit of a problem. It's ok for anybody to have a little tuft going on, but when you put your arms at your sides it should not look like you have Chewbacca in a head lock.

I'm glad I'm not Italian!

Okay, maybe that was a bit overboard. Sorry.

Back hair = yick. Chest hair = lick.

Chest hair is hotness. There is nothing else to say about it.
Chest hair can be ok if it is under control. But, as a general rule, if you have body hair that is long enough to be made into dredlocks, it is time to at least consider some trimming options.

Shaved legs on men = massive stubble. It's a huge turn off. I know of people who trim, which is fair enough. I trim most body hair.

I have occassionally shaved my legs, but at the same time I am of the opinion that it was not okay for me to do so.

So the poll does not accomodate me.

Chest hair can be ok if it is under control. But, as a general rule, if you have body hair that is long enough to be made into dredlocks, it is time to at least consider some trimming options.

Or, it's time to get self-confidence and be proud of what you got, because whatever it is, someone out there is bound to have it as a kink.

Hairless dudes are at least as yucky as those who have hypertrichosis, IMO. A hairless chest is definitely less of a turn on.

Some guy wants to shave his legs, good for him.
Some guy wants to wear a pink tutu and ballet shoes, good for him
Some guy wants to be a kindergarten teacher, good for him.
Some girl wants to be a commando, good for her.

Who am I to say it´s wrong. How could a guy shaving his legs affect anyone else but himself or his significant other, and if it doesn´t affect anyone else then why would it be deemed important?

Shaved legs on men = massive stubble. It's a huge turn off. I know of people who trim, which is fair enough. I trim most body hair.

Hence my suggestion of waxing...

Most men won't go through the pain tho :p

Hence my suggestion of waxing...

Most men won't go through the pain tho :p
*shrugs* I don't find smooth men attractive. I like some man-beast.

*shrugs* I don't find smooth men attractive. I like some man-beast.

Fair enough :)

I personally trim.

Shaved legs are a turn off. Some hair means you're a man. If I wanted to be with a 12 y/o, I'd be with one.

o.o

Or, it's time to get self-confidence and be proud of what you got, because whatever it is, someone out there is bound to have it as a kink.

I don't see how grooming equates with a lack of self confidence. I also don't think it's a good idea to rely on other people's "kinks" to get relationships; that can get kind of dangerous pretty quickly, because some people will be so in love with their kink that they won't really see you for who you are at all.

Obviously if somebody wants to have tons of body hair then that's their call. I just think guys need to realize that the majority of women out there prefer that you keep your body hair under control (just like you prefer it when they do the same). If you expect your partner to shave her legs, it's only fair that you return the courtesy and keep your body hair under control for her.

Hairless dudes are at least as yucky as those who have hypertrichosis, IMO. A hairless chest is definitely less of a turn on.
I'm a sucker for nice muscle definition, and it's just plain easier to see a dude's muscles if there's less hair on his chest. Also, I enjoy licking of the chestal region, and hairballs are not a turn-on for me. :)

:eek: I was once accused of waxing how dare they,and go back to sitting on cold toilet seats:p

I don't see how grooming equates with a lack of self confidence.

It does equate if you're grooming not for yourself but because someone else told you to.

I also don't think it's a good idea to rely on other people's "kinks" to get relationships; that can get kind of dangerous pretty quickly, because some people will be so in love with their kink that they won't really see you for who you are at all.

Yeah, all those blondes must have such a hard time. A kink doesn't have to be something terribly freaky or obsessive - it can just be something that turns you on about another person. Like tallness, or muscles.

Obviously if somebody wants to have tons of body hair then that's their call. I just think guys need to realize that the majority of women out there prefer that you keep your body hair under control (just like you prefer it when they do the same). If you expect your partner to shave her legs, it's only fair that you return the courtesy and keep your body hair under control for her.

Majority? I happen to believe otherwise - that people who have sex with men want to have sex with men, and not men trying to be girls.

I'm a sucker for nice muscle definition, and it's just plain easier to see a dude's muscles if there's less hair on his chest. Also, I enjoy licking of the chestal region, and hairballs are not a turn-on for me. :)

People aren't cats. They don't shed hair that way, and hairy chests I find are actually more lickable than smooth ones for the simple reason that they smell and taste more "man."

I don't shave my legs, however as I am against almost any differences in behavior based upon gender, I see no reason why men can't shave their legs. The alternative to this would be that women shouldn't shave their legs, either, which is equally fine with me.

Who am I to say it´s wrong. How could a guy shaving his legs affect anyone else but himself or his significant other, and if it doesn´t affect anyone else then why would it be deemed important?
Clearly you have never visited America. See, in our country, what one person does in the privacy of their own bedroom is of critical importance to the entire nation. If any man, anywhere, is anything less than an uber-sweaty, belching, farting, manly-man pile of raw masculine power, well, then that one man will be undermining the very fabric of our society!!!

Also, if a woman stops shaving her legs then she will become a lesbian and will kidnap small children to join her evil godless lesbian coven.

I personally trim.

Shaved legs are a turn off. Some hair means you're a man. If I wanted to be with a 12 y/o, I'd be with one.

o.o

...

When i was younger i shaved my legs. It itched like fucking hell itself!

When i was younger i shaved my legs. It iched soo hard! Now i beleave that man shouldnt shave their legs! Beleave me!

I'll listen to you the second you ace an English test.

...


But of course I don't want to be with one.

Ew.

*shrugs* I don't find smooth men attractive. I like some man-beast.

Testify! :)

I do find smooth men attractive, too, they would just lose out to a scruffier guy any day of the week if I had to pick between them

But really, lads, it's your chests and backs you need to worry about first. I've heard plenty of guys talk about how gross it is when a girl doesn't shave her legs, but some of them have so much back hair that it comes up out of the back of their collar. Some of them have arm hair that's long enough to tickle your palm when you shake their hand.

There's a reason why male models don't have hairy chests and backs, dudes. Take the hint.


TOO TRUE!

I'll listen to you the second you ace an English test.

HAHA!

It's noone's bussiness that who shaves what.
Smooth legs look good on some guys, especially if their legs are muscular.

It does equate if you're grooming not for yourself but because someone else told you to.

I don't think that's true. Some people (like me) don't particularly care strongly one way or another, so if we end up dating somebody who happens to prefer a certain thing (like a particular hair style or the shaving of one's legs) then it doesn't cost us anything to do it. It takes all of 30 seconds to trim your pits or whatever, and if it makes your lover happy then why not?


Yeah, all those blondes must have such a hard time. A kink doesn't have to be something terribly freaky or obsessive - it can just be something that turns you on about another person. Like tallness, or muscles.

Kinks are a bit more extreme than that. I don't know why this is, but people who prefer things like bearded women or huge smelly feet tend to be people who are so fixated on that one particular trait that they often ignore just about every other trait there is. On the other hand, the fact that some people happen to be a bit partial to blondes usually doesn't rule out their dating a brunette.

I'm not saying everybody who likes lots of body hair is a freak. It's just a sort of odd line to walk when you are talking about "kinks." I had a friend who started dating this guy who was really into women with big feet, and it started out great because he loved this feature of hers that she'd always been insecure about. After a while, though, it became aparent that her feet were pretty much the only thing that mattered to him. This isn't much different from the kind of guys who are so obsessed with giant boobies that they can't manage to look a girl in the eye for more than 30 seconds.


Majority? I happen to believe otherwise - that people who have sex with men want to have sex with men, and not men trying to be girls.

Meh, I'm just speaking from experience, and annecdotal evidence isn't worth the paper it's not printed on. :)

I should also qualify that my experience is almost exclusively with American women, so there could be national/cultural differences as well.

Oddly enough, I've found that lesbians are more likely to say that they think body hair looks good on men. I don't know why that might be.


People aren't cats. They don't shed hair that way, and hairy chests I find are actually more lickable than smooth ones for the simple reason that they smell and taste more "man."
Maybe that's the difference: to me, people with long body hair are like pets with long body hair...they have this smell that I don't particularly enjoy, no matter how clean they keep themselves. Some people find the cat-smell or the dog-smell pleasent, and that's great for them, but it's really not for me.

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This thread sucked without pics.

I don't think that's true. Some people (like me) don't particularly care strongly one way or another, so if we end up dating somebody who happens to prefer a certain thing (like a particular hair style or the shaving of one's legs) then it doesn't cost us anything to do it. It takes all of 30 seconds to trim your pits or whatever, and if it makes your lover happy then why not?

There is a difference between someone you're going out with asking you and doing it to please them, and doing it because of what you saw on a model or TV or what some random stranger told you was attractive.

Kinks are a bit more extreme than that. I don't know why this is, but people who prefer things like bearded women or huge smelly feet tend to be people who are so fixated on that one particular trait that they often ignore just about every other trait there is. On the other hand, the fact that some people happen to be a bit partial to blondes usually doesn't rule out their dating a brunette.

I'm not saying everybody who likes lots of body hair is a freak. It's just a sort of odd line to walk when you are talking about "kinks." I had a friend who started dating this guy who was really into women with big feet, and it started out great because he loved this feature of hers that she'd always been insecure about. After a while, though, it became aparent that her feet were pretty much the only thing that mattered to him. This isn't much different from the kind of guys who are so obsessed with giant boobies that they can't manage to look a girl in the eye for more than 30 seconds.

You're thinking of fetishes, not kinks.

Meh, I'm just speaking from experience, and annecdotal evidence isn't worth the paper it's not printed on. :)

Then you understand your predicament.

I should also qualify that my experience is almost exclusively with American women, so there could be national/cultural differences as well.

Oddly enough, I've found that lesbians are more likely to say that they think body hair looks good on men. I don't know why that might be.

I have completely different experiences with lesbians. The major being them not giving a shit, and the lesser favouring feminisation.

Maybe that's the difference: to me, people with long body hair are like pets with long body hair...they have this smell that I don't particularly enjoy, no matter how clean they keep themselves. Some people find the cat-smell or the dog-smell pleasent, and that's great for them, but it's really not for me.

They don't smell cat or dog. They smell human. Which I happen to prefer to Eau de Toilet [sic!].

But of course I don't want to be with one.

Ew.
Thank [insert random deity] you don't.

A guy is only attractive if he's hairless because a) he's naturally so or b) he shaves or waxes. Not because he's too young for body hair to grow. O_o

*snip* Which I happen to prefer to Eau de Toilet [sic!].
It's actually eau de toilette. The way you spelled it, you'd think it meant literally toilet water, which it doesn't.

And, don't underestimate the divine smell of a clean, hairless man who just got out of the shower. No need for perfume, eau de toilette, or deodorant; nothing beats clean manliness. Except maybe clean, wet, sexy manliness. :D

It's actually eau de toilette. The way you spelled it, you'd think it meant literally toilet water, which it doesn't.

Hence the [sic!] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic). :rolleyes: That was the point.

And, don't underestimate the divine smell of a clean, hairless man who just got out of the shower. No need for perfume, eau de toilette, or deodorant; nothing beats clean manliness. Except maybe clean, wet, sexy manliness. :D

Clean, wet, hairy, sexy manliness that rubs itself dry on you... but a little coital sweat works, too.

Hence the [sic!] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic). :rolleyes: That was the point.

Clean, wet, hairy, sexy manliness that rubs itself dry on you... but a little coital sweat works, too.

There's no hair (which I hate), and too much hair (which I hate).

A moderate amount of hair is good, and is essential to more effectively trapping and releasing scent.

There's no hair (which I hate), and too much hair (which I hate).

A moderate amount of hair is good, and is essential to more effectively trapping and releasing scent.

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Closest thing I've come to find in picture form that represents this perfect, "moderate" amount.

Chest hair can be ok if it is under control. But, as a general rule, if you have body hair that is long enough to be made into dredlocks, it is time to at least consider some trimming options.

Yes, and that goes for all body hair - even the "less mentionable" places (although, unless you are a stripper or wearing a high-cut bathing suit, the general public won't ever know).

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Closest thing I've come to find in picture form that represents this perfect, "moderate" amount.
The last one has that "vertical trail" that I like.

Hairless dudes are at least as yucky as those who have hypertrichosis, IMO. A hairless chest is definitely less of a turn on.

What about a chest with like five hairs spread out in different places?

((Yes, my fiance has few and far between chest hairs. I find this rather funny =)

What about a chest with like five hairs spread out in different places?

((Yes, my fiance has few and far between chest hairs. I find this rather funny =)
When I was in my early 20's, I had that nearly hairless Asian chest.

Then people I knew used to pluck one or two for fun. Especially my roommate in the Army. It seemed to make more hair grow, so now I have what I consider to be an ideal amount.

Then people I knew used to pluck one or two for fun. Especially my roommate in the Army. It seemed to make more hair grow, so now I have what I consider to be an ideal amount.:eek: People plucked your chest hairs?

Of course theres nothing wrong with shaving legs... however mother nature intended to have hair on legs for a purpose... but for cosmetic and/or athletic purposes then by all means... shave them legs. Shave them goddamnit, fuck societal norms. :)

People plucked your chest hairs?
Yes. For fun.

It's what young men do in an idle moment.

The last one has that "vertical trail" that I like.

The elongated happy trail that connects the chest hair with the abdominal hair?

We are in agreement, for once. It is erection-inducing.

Yes. For fun.

It's what young men do in an idle moment.Wow. Old people are weird. <Covers chest and consoles each individual hair.>

When I was in my early 20's, I had that nearly hairless Asian chest.

Is it an Asian-type trait? My fiance doens't have any Asian lineage that we know of

:eek: People plucked your chest hairs?

I've done it once or twice to my fiance, but he swears he can feel it all over his body and it hurts. So I don't do it anymore.

I've done it once or twice to my fiance, but he swears he can feel it all over his body and it hurts. So I don't do it anymore.Well, that's slightly less odd as since you have a sexual relationship you should be touching each other's chests...but I still find it to be a bit odd.

What about a chest with like five hairs spread out in different places?

Unless they're freakishly long, which I have seen with such solitary hairs on more than one occasion, he can keep them.

Wow. Old people are weird. <Covers chest and consoles each individual hair.>
Think of it more as a military homosexual play kind of thing.

You're getting dressed with your roommate, and inspecting each other's uniform, and he says, "ah, you have a string hanging out of your shirt" and plucks a chest hair unexpectedly from you.

Then there's a bit of playful wrestling.

Is it an Asian-type trait? My fiance doens't have any Asian lineage that we know of



I've done it once or twice to my fiance, but he swears he can feel it all over his body and it hurts. So I don't do it anymore.

It definately isnt asian-type trait...

Think of it more as a military homosexual play kind of thing.

You're getting dressed with your roommate, and inspecting each other's uniform, and he says, "ah, you have a string hanging out of your shirt" and plucks a chest hair unexpectedly from you.

Then there's a bit of playful wrestling.Ah, so it was sexual...that I can understand, then.

It definately isnt asian-type trait...

The racist "expert" has spoken.

Think of it more as a military homosexual play kind of thing.

You're getting dressed with your roommate, and inspecting each other's uniform, and he says, "ah, you have a string hanging out of your shirt" and plucks a chest hair unexpectedly from you.

Then there's a bit of playful wrestling.

You should write short novellas about this.

Think of it more as a military homosexual play kind of thing.

You're getting dressed with your roommate, and inspecting each other's uniform, and he says, "ah, you have a string hanging out of your shirt" and plucks a chest hair unexpectedly from you.

Then there's a bit of playful wrestling.

But.....but.....there are no gay people in the military!!!!! ::boggle::

hehe

You should write short novellas about this.Seconded, with self-pics included.

But.....but.....there are no gay people in the military!!!!! ::boggle::

hehe
There were more before President Clinton fucked them all and made the "don't ask, don't tell policy".

More left the service after that order (or were thrown out) than in the entire history of the Army up to that point.

The racist "expert" has spoken.

It's based on myself and my personal experiences....So you used the quotes one word late...

It's based on myself and my personal experiences....So you used the quotes one word late...

I assure you, my usage of the quotes was correct and intentional.

I assure you, my usage of the quotes was correct and intentional.
Do they have people like Nordland in Sweden?

Eh, I have little enough body hair as it is, what someone does with their doesn't concern me one bit.

Swimmers already shave their legs, not something I'd personally do, but then again I hate shaving my face, let alone anything else.

Do they have people like Nordland in Sweden?

They indeed got Nordland....

Do they have people like Nordland in Sweden?

Do they have people like him in the US? There are always people on whose behalf one feels almost shame.

Do they have people like Nordland in Sweden?

There are people like him in every nation.

Another blasted public poll.
There is no democracy on this forum!

Secret Ballots are for wimps. People should stand up for what they believe in, the way legislators do in Parliament. The affront to democracy is when people believe they cannot express themselves openly.

I don't really care what men do with their leg hair, though some guys have so much it's creepy. I saw one boy back in junior high who was blond, but he had so much leg hair that not only was it visible, but he actually looked furry.

Though if men are going to tell me that shaving their legs is weird and such, they better not expect me to.

Waxing is better :eek:
yeah but that looks like it hurts like a bitch

Do they have people like him in the US? There are always people on whose behalf one feels almost shame.

What you said is very ironic, considering you are the one with full of hate...Whatever...

What you said is very ironic, considering you are the one with full of hate...

I hate everything you stand for. That's nothing I've ever tried to deny.

If you're a swimmer or diver...sure! why not? But if you are doing it for pleasure... can i hear a big NO?

If you're a swimmer or diver...sure! why not? But if you are doing it for pleasure... can i hear a big NO?

Phbt, fascist.

Do they have people like him in the US? There are always people on whose behalf one feels almost shame.
Yes there are.

Then again, I am always afraid of people who ascribe some vague moral purpose to what they believe in - I would much rather be killed by people who said, "in all honesty, we just love to kill, and love it so much we thought you might like to be in on the fun".

I think that's the way people truly think in those situations, and the ideological trappings are just bullshit.

Life is made up of a string of bullshit ideologies. Honesty is the rarest thing in this life. We're so busy with stupid platitudes to make things work more smoothly. People can't just handle differences of opinion, or honest truth.


Of course it could be said that people don't get along worth a damn anyway, and without the bullshit ideologies we're just animals.

I'll listen to you the second you ace an English test.
Not too much sence, huh?
I just was in a hurry...

Yep, I shave my legs.

I have absolutely no chest, belly or back hair and never have and only very light hair on and under my arms. Yet I tend to have a fair bit on my legs and, by all the hairy and hoary gods of the North, it looks bloody odd. So I shave my lower body just to even things up so I don't grimace every time I look in the mirror. It feels nice too, which is an added bonus.

The stubble is awful, though, so shaving is a bi-daily ritual for me. It's largely for my own benefit, however. It's horrid when I don't do it. It's like evolution stopped half way down.

Hair is good, but sasquatch hair is not. Get a beard trimmer and take care of the jungle... there are different levels other than full or cleanshaven

If you're a swimmer or diver...sure! why not? But if you are doing it for pleasure... can i hear a big NO?

Why not?

I'm not a swimmer or a diver, and I shave my legs - because I think they look and feel better that way.

Now why shouldn't a guy have that same option?

cyclists/swimmers/other logical reson:OK. Otherwise, that's just WRONG!

Hair is good, but sasquatch hair is not. Get a beard trimmer and take care of the jungle... there are different levels other than full or cleanshaven
Oh, common, it's not that bad.

cyclists/swimmers/other logical reson:OK. Otherwise, that's just WRONG!

Does it really matter to you what a man does to his own body?

And does the "just WRONG" descriptor go for women shaving their legs as well?

cyclists/swimmers/other logical reson:OK. Otherwise, that's just WRONG!

Logical reason to shave legs: Person feels like it.

Logical reason not to shave legs: Person doesn't feel like it.

I don't care enough to bother shaving my legs. That goes for my face too, I'm such a lazy fecker when it comes to shaving. It's not even that I'm growing a beard(which I'm probably a bit young to pull off properly), I'm just not arsed shaving.

Technically, I'd support a guy shaving his legs. But I'd probably still stare, just like I did when I saw a fifty-something man with a bald head strutting around in pink short-shorts and heels.

since we men like to touch and taste smooth legs its a necessity for a women to do it. But since women 'mostly' like our haired chests and occupy their hands on our shoulders,its unnecassary for us to do same. And It kinda looks gay to have shiny legs, looking a bit brute and having rugged features is whats considered manly and right. Of course its everyones own choice but personally if I see a man with shaved legs I would think of him as gay, not with bad intentions but I find it laughable.

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I'm a guy but I don't shave my legs.I shave my face but thats about it.I don't see whats wrong with guys shaving there legs if they like it.As long as they like what there doing,it's fine.

since we men like to touch and taste smooth legs its a necessity for a women to do it. But since women 'mostly' like our haired chests and occupy their hands on our shoulders,its unnecassary for us to do same. And It kinda looks gay to have shiny legs, looking a bit brute and having rugged features is whats considered manly and right. Of course its everyones own choice but personally if I see a man with shaved legs I would think of him as gay, not with bad intentions but I find it laughable.

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I find it laughable that you think it's a necessity for anyone to do something cosmetic for other people's benefit.

I'm also having a bit of difficulty finding the link between homosexuality and shaven legs.

I find it laughable that you think it's a necessity for anyone to do something cosmetic for other people's benefit.

I'm also having a bit of difficulty finding the link between homosexuality and shaven legs.
simple, most man have haired legs, so when some shave their legs they stand out. And they catch eye, actually at the beach it might be a good tactic to gather attention :p
But the way I see it:
shiny legged man= is he gay? or perhaps worse, he is metrosexual! Run away! Run away!
shiny legged lady= wow she has good legs, lets check her finger for rings now.

Hey thats what I think, just because I know other points of view doesnt mean I will lose mine. This is how I prefer it, me: rugged, strong, manly and my woman just the opposite.

simple, most man have haired legs, so when some shave their legs they stand out. And they catch eye, actually at the beach it might be a good tactic to gather attention :p
But the way I see it:
shiny legged man= is he gay? or perhaps worse, he is metrosexual! Run away! Run away!
shiny legged lady= wow she has good legs, lets check her finger for rings now.

Hey thats what I think, just because I know other points of view doesnt mean I will lose mine. This is how I prefer it, me: rugged, strong, manly and my woman just the opposite.

Ok, time for my two cents.

My legs are covered in a thick, disgusting mat of hair. Some have split ends they're so long! I have to shave them, because they're disgusting to look at, and in no way attract women. I try not to remove all of it, just shorten it to a reasonable length. It doesn't make me gay.

Ok, time for my two cents.

My legs are covered in a thick, disgusting mat of hair. Some have split ends they're so long! I have to shave them, because they're disgusting to look at, and in no way attract women. I try not to remove all of it, just shorten it to a reasonable length. It doesn't make me gay.
Your 95th post was the 95th post in this thread. This is an omen from the Gods of Hair Removal.

simple, most man have haired legs, so when some shave their legs they stand out. And they catch eye, actually at the beach it might be a good tactic to gather attention :p
But the way I see it:
shiny legged man= is he gay? or perhaps worse, he is metrosexual! Run away! Run away!
shiny legged lady= wow she has good legs, lets check her finger for rings now.

Hey thats what I think, just because I know other points of view doesnt mean I will lose mine. This is how I prefer it, me: rugged, strong, manly and my woman just the opposite.

And... that still in no way explains to me how shaved legs = gay, but whatever.

Also, I'm fine with you and anyone else prefering women with shaved legs. However, I take exception to the idea that it's a 'necessity' for them to do so.

since we men like to touch and taste smooth legs its a necessity for a women to do it.

I take offense to this. The things that men like do not create a necessity for women. Some men prefer their women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, but there is no necessity for women to comply.

But since women 'mostly' like our haired chests and occupy their hands on our shoulders,its unnecassary for us to do same.

It isn't necessary for *anyone* to shave *any* body hair. We do it because we want to, not because someone else wants it or thinks it looks right.

And It kinda looks gay to have shiny legs, looking a bit brute and having rugged features is whats considered manly and right. Of course its everyones own choice but personally if I see a man with shaved legs I would think of him as gay, not with bad intentions but I find it laughable.

*sigh* Yes, any man who doesn't meet the stereotypes people like to place upon him is automatically attracted to other men. You're right. :rolleyes:

I take offense to this. The things that men like do not create a necessity for women. Some men prefer their women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, but there is no necessity for women to comply.



It isn't necessary for *anyone* to shave *any* body hair. We do it because we want to, not because someone else wants it or thinks it looks right.



*sigh* Yes, any man who doesn't meet the stereotypes people like to place upon him is automatically attracted to other men. You're right. :rolleyes:

Thank you for saying what I really wanted to say. That's exactly what I meant.

lol :D what can I say, its your choice what do to your body.
I am just speaking my eye and beauty is in the lookers eye. That what you or someone else getting offended wont change that.
For me it means that a women seeks love and caring if she cares about herself and her beauty, to a different degree of course. While sometimes she seeks a lover sometimes she seeks just admiring or respect. Its a gentlemans foremost duty to socially interact with her according to her needs and both gain and give satisfaction of ego. Its better that it doesnt turn a physical interaction each time.
So I see it as a necessity that a women shows respect to herself at first place by keeping a standart. And I expect to look good too as a man for myself in mans standarts to reflect more self respect and inner strenght. And dont like to cross barriers between man and woman images.
I like social interaction, kind talking and good looking in the most classical style. I like wearing a suit and tie and like to see dress on women. It makes me feel good and I dont have to feel any shame because of it or my pleasures and expectations. I dont think there are that many people with class left anyway, so I will preserve what I can. We are on seperate places anyway
you can simply ignore me. Im already used to living like a museum piece.

since we men like to touch and taste smooth legs its a necessity for a women to do it. But since women 'mostly' like our haired chests and occupy their hands on our shoulders,its unnecassary for us to do same. And It kinda looks gay to have shiny legs, looking a bit brute and having rugged features is whats considered manly and right. Of course its everyones own choice but personally if I see a man with shaved legs I would think of him as gay, not with bad intentions but I find it laughable.

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Looks kinda gay huh? I guess smooth legs would stand out between hairy turks. Do you also think smooth legged guys are inferior like the way you think gays are inferior?

It bothers me when guys shave their legs

I can understand doing it for bycycling, swimming and for football players that have to tape their ankles every practice and game.

But to do it just to do it bothers me...

It bothers me when guys shave their legs

I can understand doing it for bycycling, swimming and for football players that have to tape their ankles every practice and game.

But to do it just to do it bothers me...

...why?

Well, I'm a guy and I don't like hair on me...so off with it! I prefer the guys I date to be hairy though.

...why?



It just does...i can't tell you why it's just something that always bothers me.

It just does...i can't tell you why it's just something that always bothers me.

If you can't tell why you don't like something, then maybe you should be questioning it. If you have no reason for something to bother you, then it shouldn't bother you.

I really don't care one way or the other. I was a swimmer for years, so I know quite a few guys that wax their legs, and it's not any more or less attractive to me. If that's what the guy wants to do, why not? As for hair on the rest of a guy, back hair is a pretty big turn-off for me. Chest hair is fine, and while I don't really like beards or mustaches, a bit of stubble on a guy's face can be quite sexy.

I don't care enough to bother shaving my legs. That goes for my face too, I'm such a lazy fecker when it comes to shaving. It's not even that I'm growing a beard(which I'm probably a bit young to pull off properly), I'm just not arsed shaving.


Hmm my feelings about shaving exactly. I shave once a week, every monday. By sunday I look quite scruffy. Fortunately my facial hair grows so slowly it's not an issue during the work week.

lol :D what can I say, its your choice what do to your body.

Exactly.

So how exactly does what *you* like create a *necessity* for any woman?

I find it laughable that you think it's a necessity for anyone to do something cosmetic for other people's benefit.

Most people seem to be of that opinion when it comes to women. A woman's faithfulness to society's standards of beauty is used as a marker for how good a person she is. Women who fail to conform are clearly defective in some way (like women who have BMIs above 15, or women who don't shave their legs, or women who don't wear make-up), and are less worthy of love and affection. They aren't attending to the primary job of a female: to make herself attractive to heterosexual males, regardless of personal inconvenience or expense.

In contrast, men are expected to demonstrate their manliness by NOT showing regard for their appearance. Being hairy, sweaty, and unkempt is the sign of a manly man, while men who groom or use cosmetics are clearly "feminine" (and, therefore, gay). This probably is related to the attitude that men aren't supposed to be trying to attract women, because women aren't supposed to want sex anyhow, and women certainly aren't supposed to be pursuing men...men must have the thrill of the hunt, while women must make themselves into beautiful (and therefore valuable) trophies to be won by men.

I've got no problem with a person saying, "I'm attracted to X, Y, and Z." I've got no problem with somebody saying, "I am really turned off by X, Y, or Z, and I don't think I would want to date a person who has such a quality." What I have a problem with is when a person's sense of entitlement grows so large that they view it as a NECESSITY for others to conform to their personal standards. Particularly when they themselves are not to be held to the same standards. That's why I find it so funny when a hetero guy insists that women MUST shave their legs, but men MUST NOT. Or that women MUST wax their pubes, while men shouldn't even so much as trim the hair in their pits.

Not surprising, I suppose, that some heterosexual men might insist that women must engage in the most time-consuming, uncomfortable, and expensive "beautification" processes, while categorically exempting themselves. Very convenient, that manliness means not having to exert an equal effort to maintain one's attractiveness. Very convenient, that (according to these guys) women just happen to prefer men in their natural state, while men just happen to prefer women who have used numerous artificial processes to alter their appearance.

What's really sad is that our "progress" of late has been toward making men participate in more silly and unnecessary beautification processes, rather than recognizing that many of these processes are stupid requirements for either sex.

If you can't tell why you don't like something, then maybe you should be questioning it. If you have no reason for something to bother you, then it shouldn't bother you.
I dunno about that. I'm bothered by excessive nose hair, even though I can't provide any particular reason why nose hair is harmful to me. I just think it's kind of yucky. Nothing wrong with feeling that way, in my opinion.

Most people seem to be of that opinion when it comes to women. A woman's faithfulness to society's standards of beauty is used as a marker for how good a person she is. Women who fail to conform are clearly defective in some way (like women who have BMIs above 15, or women who don't shave their legs, or women who don't wear make-up), and are less worthy of love and affection. They aren't attending to the primary job of a female: to make herself attractive to heterosexual males, regardless of personal inconvenience or expense.

In contrast, men are expected to demonstrate their manliness by NOT showing regard for their appearance. Being hairy, sweaty, and unkempt is the sign of a manly man, while men who groom or use cosmetics are clearly "feminine" (and, therefore, gay). This probably is related to the attitude that men aren't supposed to be trying to attract women, because women aren't supposed to want sex anyhow, and women certainly aren't supposed to be pursuing men...men must have the thrill of the hunt, while women must make themselves into beautiful (and therefore valuable) trophies to be won by men.

I've got no problem with a person saying, "I'm attracted to X, Y, and Z." I've got no problem with somebody saying, "I am really turned off by X, Y, or Z, and I don't think I would want to date a person who has such a quality." What I have a problem with is when a person's sense of entitlement grows so large that they view it as a NECESSITY for others to conform to their personal standards. Particularly when they themselves are not to be held to the same standards. That's why I find it so funny when a hetero guy insists that women MUST shave their legs, but men MUST NOT. Or that women MUST wax their pubes, while men shouldn't even so much as trim the hair in their pits.

Not surprising, I suppose, that some heterosexual men might insist that women must engage in the most time-consuming, uncomfortable, and expensive "beautification" processes, while categorically exempting themselves. Very convenient, that manliness means not having to exert an equal effort to maintain one's attractiveness. Very convenient, that (according to these guys) women just happen to prefer men in their natural state, while men just happen to prefer women who have used numerous artificial processes to alter their appearance.

What's really sad is that our "progress" of late has been toward making men participate in more silly and unnecessary beautification processes, rather than recognizing that many of these processes are stupid requirements for either sex.Well said. You should write for feminist magazines.

My cousin used to shave his legs... in fact, his entire body. 'Course, he was a swimmer, and a good one at that, so it was understood. My other cousin, however, was a really shitty swimmer and shaved his chest, legs, arms, et cetera but not his hair. We said he was shaving because he was gay and he kept saying that he wasn't, but last time I looked at his MySpace, he was calling himself "Lush" and having photoshoots wearing eyeliner and mesh shirts.

I think it's OK, but I do find shaved legs a turn off. I like my men manly.i semi-disagree.

i don't like men who're lumberjack manly. and i really don't like really hairy men. shaved legs are a plus in my book, but that kinda limits the range i have...

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Of course it's "okay".
But personally, definitly definitly not for me. Just... no.

It isn't okay.
I don't care if you are a cyclist,Football player Rugby/Soccer/Gridiron/Aussie Rules/Gaelic whatever don't care if they might get infected ya bloody show pony.

*snip*

Am I the only one who likes the irony of someone called "Kiwi-kiwi" posting in a topic about shaving ? Or did I watch the Philips Bodygroom commercials too much ;) ?

http://www.shopping.philips.com/norelco/images/norelco_image_top.jpg

http://www.shaveeverywhere.com. Ironically "everywhere" does not seem to include the *front* of the legs...

I don't do it, but it's not as if I hold it against guys who do. It's your body hair do what you want. And that's my attitude to everybody, just to be clear.

Am I the only one who likes the irony of someone called "Kiwi-kiwi" posting in a topic about shaving ? Or did I watch the Philips Bodygroom commercials too much ;) ?

http://www.shopping.philips.com/norelco/images/norelco_image_top.jpg

http://www.shaveeverywhere.com. Ironically "everywhere" does not seem to include the *front* of the legs...
Real men eat the skins.

You can do whatever you want.

That being said, there are only two "real" excuses for guys to shave their legs: They're either professional bicyclists or professional swimmers.

shaving legs is bare breeze

Shaved legs is a bit strange, but I can understand trimming your pubes and completely removing stuff like shoulder and upper back hair.

Shaved legs is a bit strange, but I can understand trimming your pubes and completely removing stuff like shoulder and upper back hair.

why do you understand this?

I personally don't, I feel the hair hides up my near-albino skin tones to a decent degree. (White legs look really gross when you start seeing the veins).

i have to say this even though i have caught a lot of heck for it before but...

i think it's okay for men to shave their legs.

i think of it as in i was once a pro athlete. think about swimmers, gymnists and martial artists. these kinds of athletes can benefit from shaving their legs.

if i ever get back into the sport of my choice, no matter what it is....

i beleive that i will get some benefit in terms of my personal performance from shaving my legs.

so men, my answer is yes....

as a man, i think it's okay for us guys to shave our legs.

I personally don't, I feel the hair hides up my near-albino skin tones to a decent degree. (White legs look really gross when you start seeing the veins).

yeah, they're fucking disgusting aint they

why do you understand this?
Well because back hair just looks nasty (especially shoulder hair, it makes the owner look like some sort of sexual deviant) and shorter pubes look better. But not no pubes - my mate did that for a laugh and showed us all when he was drunk, it looked...well, lets say the nightmares haven't left me yet.

Well because back hair just looks nasty (especially shoulder hair, it makes the owner look like some sort of sexual deviant) and shorter pubes look better. But not no pubes - my mate did that for a laugh and showed us all when he was drunk, it looked...well, lets say the nightmares haven't left me yet.

why do things like this only happen when people are... "drunk"

You can do whatever you want.

That being said, there are only two "real" excuses for guys to shave their legs: They're either professional bicyclists or professional swimmers.Why is it something that needs to be excused?

There's a reason why male models don't have hairy chests and backs, dudes. Take the hint.
Because the young girls will be frightened by such overt displays of masculinity. Hairlessness is "safer" at that age.

Because the young girls will be frightened by such overt displays of masculinity. Hairlessness is "safer" at that age.

Nah...They just think smooth skin looks better and is more tasty...

Hence my suggestion of waxing...

Most men won't go through the pain tho :p
Waxing is not painful. That's a myth.

Nah...They just think smooth skin looks better and is more tasty...
True indeed, I just highlighted the underlying, subconscious reason.

since we men like to touch and taste smooth legs its a necessity for a women to do it.

This has already been commented upon, but it is most certainly not "necessary" for me to shave my legs because some men prefer women with shaved legs. They're my legs, not some sort of communal property belonging to masculine beings at large. If I want to shave them, I can. If I want to leave them unshaven, I can. If I want to paint them blue, I can. If you don't happen to like blue-painted legs, that's really not my problem.

The same applies to men's legs. If a guy wants to shave his legs, well, they're his legs. Why should I care one way or the other?

Waxing is not painful. That's a myth.

Right.....

I'm just *imagining* it then, when I feel pain when someone rips my hair out using wax.

I trim my pubes, but I don't shave. however, I probably would shave my legs if my girlfriend didn't like hairy men.

Waxing is not painful. That's a myth.

I'd have to beg to differ. I tried having my legs waxed a few years ago, and it most definitely hurt like the dickens. I do hear, however, that it gets less painful after you've done it once or twice.

why do things like this only happen when people are... "drunk"
Well, three quarters of a litre of gin will do that to a person...;)