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influence music

Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 14:47
What is the most influencial music you listen to.


For me it would be The Beatles
Righteous Munchee-Love
08-06-2006, 14:52
I was hoping for a link to some subliminally contaminated music.
Now I´m sad.
Evil Satanic OzMonkeys
08-06-2006, 14:56
Weird Al: he really influenced my sense of humor
Grillos
08-06-2006, 14:57
The Mars Volta
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 14:58
The Mars Volta
it must be an honor for my post to be ur first
Kazus
08-06-2006, 14:58
Dragonforce :D
[NS]Errinundera
08-06-2006, 14:59
"Little White Bull". F*ck knows who sang it.
Commie Catholics
08-06-2006, 14:59
Dire Straits. Mark Knopflers solo in Sultans of Swing inspired me to go out and buy a guitar.
Todays Lucky Number
08-06-2006, 15:00
Beatles is just a gay boyband in my opinion, I dont care how many people like it. Simply not my type but I wont start an all out war on it here, its pretty tiring.
The most influencing music for me was Black Sabbath.
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:01
Weird Al: he really influenced my sense of humor
same here
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:02
Beatles is just a gay boyband in my opinion, I dont care how many people like it. Simply not my type but I wont start an all out war on it here, its pretty tiring.
The most influencing music for me was Black Sabbath.
you could have just said you didn't like the beatles that would have worked too
AB Again
08-06-2006, 15:03
Errinundera']"Little White Bull". F*ck knows who sang it.

Sad, but I know, Tommy Steele

Most influential music I listen to - Mozart.
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:04
black sabath was ok i got to love iron man
Potarius
08-06-2006, 15:04
Oh, the Sex Pistols are definitely the most influential band I listen to. They're virtually responsible for an entire genre, and then some (not much started in the early years of the Ramones... Literally hundreds of bands started in 1975, 1976, and 1978 because of the Sex Pistols).
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:06
Oh, the Sex Pistols are definitely the most influential band I listen to. They're virtually responsible for an entire genre, and then some (not much started in the early years of the Ramones... Literally hundreds of bands started in 1975, 1976, and 1978 because of the Sex Pistols).
beside john lennon i wasn't to fond of the 70's
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:08
ramones were good
AB Again
08-06-2006, 15:09
Literally hundreds of bands started in 1975, 1976, and 1978 because of the Sex Pistols).

And hundreds of bands folded in 1976, 1977 and 1979. (what hapened to 1977 by the way?) :p

No the pistols were different, but not seriously influential. The Clash, The Jam (bleurgh), The Ramones were all far more influential. However you have your heros, so be it.
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:09
beach boys
Todays Lucky Number
08-06-2006, 15:10
you could have just said you didn't like the beatles that would have worked too
hmm yes you are right Im sorry.
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:10
any metal music
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:11
hmm yes you are right Im sorry.
thanks ok
Penrhosgarnedd
08-06-2006, 15:11
Golden Brown - the Stanglers
Them Bones - Alice in Chains
Plush - Stone Temple Pilots
Spoonman - Soundgarden
Greater londres
08-06-2006, 15:13
got to be the beatles. if you don't like the beatles then please rip out your ears as you clearly don't deserve them
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:13
we all live in a yellow submarine
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:14
got to be the beatles. if you don't like the beatles then please rip out your ears as you clearly don't deserve them
lol i did like the beatles
Vogonsphere
08-06-2006, 15:14
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!! 400
[NS]Errinundera
08-06-2006, 15:16
Sad, but I know, Tommy Steele

Most influential music I listen to - Mozart.

Yeah. I just checked it up on the web.

Actually, it was a joke answer. It's the earliest pop song I can remember.

Now there's an idea for a thread.
Potarius
08-06-2006, 15:29
And hundreds of bands folded in 1976, 1977 and 1979. (what hapened to 1977 by the way?) :p

No the pistols were different, but not seriously influential. The Clash, The Jam (bleurgh), The Ramones were all far more influential. However you have your heros, so be it.

Well, considering the Pistols were the reason The Clash even came into being says a lot. They're also responsible for the Buzzcocks, The Damned, Souxsie And The Banshees, and Sham 69, among others...

...They even influenced post-1978 Ramones work. Johnny (Ramone) said that Steve's ability with the guitar was an inspiration for him to better his own ability, as he thought the Ramones were stagnating musically.


...And The Jam, more influential than the Pistols? Dude, just come out and say it: You fucking hate the Pistols (for some reason which I hope to never hear). At least be honest; bullshit isn't cool.
McKagan
08-06-2006, 15:47
Nirvana

Kurt Cobain is my idol. They were the most original band since the corny, unoriginal and uncreative hair/metal bands of the 80's.

The best thing is that Kurt didn't WANT to be a famous dude with everything he wanted. He wanted to play clubs around Seattle and make a living. Nirvana represented my views on society and corporations almost exactly.

Too bad Kurt Cobain was assassinated by a jealous wife.
Evil Satanic OzMonkeys
08-06-2006, 15:47
it must be an honor for my post to be ur first

I say, you officially OWN HIM!!!
Evil Satanic OzMonkeys
08-06-2006, 15:49
we all live in a yellow submarine

I still don't see how they weren't arrested for use of drugs after that movie came out. Especially with "Lucy in the Sky..."
Potarius
08-06-2006, 15:50
Nirvana

Kurt Cobain is my idol. They were the most original band since the corny, unoriginal and uncreative hair/metal bands of the 80's.

The best thing is that Kurt didn't WANT to be a famous dude with everything he wanted. He wanted to play clubs around Seattle and make a living. Nirvana represented my views on society and corporations almost exactly.

Too bad Kurt Cobain was assassinated by a jealous wife.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that Husker Du were a lot more original than Nirvana. Now, I'm not saying Nirvana suck or anything (they do, in fact, kick ass). I'm just saying that Husker Du had the blueprint for the Grunge sound way back in 1979, all the way to 1983 (Land Speed Record, Metal Circus, Everything Falls Apart).
AB Again
08-06-2006, 15:52
Dude, just come out and say it: You fucking hate the Pistols (for some reason which I hope to never hear). At least be honest; bullshit isn't cool.

I just hate artificial media created music. Draw your own conclusions, or talk to Malcolm McLaren about it. (How can you so seriously worship a punk band that were originally named in honour of a Roxy Music song? )
Cannot think of a name
08-06-2006, 15:54
Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Louis Armstrong...etc.
Potarius
08-06-2006, 15:57
I just hate artificial media created music. Draw your own conclusions, or talk to Malcolm McLaren about it. (How can you so seriously worship a punk band that were originally named in honour of a Roxy Music song? )

Oh, I should've known you actually believed Malcolm's bullshit...

Get The Filth And The Fury. It's a cheap rental, and it's a hell of a rewarding one. It's the band's real history, as told by the band members, friends, and acquaintances. It's a factual documentary, rather than the vehicle to gain popularity and notoriety for McLaren known as The Great Rock & Roll Swindle.

But the fact is, the Pistols were already very popular even before the Grundy incident (of which none of the band knew was taped live). They were already selling out gigs at the 100 Club every night, with waiting lines outside numbering in the hundreds.

Come on... Hate the Pistols if you will, but hate them for a reason that actually exists, not Malcolm's self-bloating bullshit. Now, Malcolm does deserve credit in his early days of management for being "a great mate", as John himself put it, and getting them gigs all over London. He also partially deserves credit for the name "Sex Pistols", along with Steve Jones.

And don't think I worship them. They're just the first band I really got into, and I found that the hate towards them was very interesting. Needless to say, I did some research, and I've been defending the band ever since.
Anarchic Christians
08-06-2006, 16:08
Current influences

The Beatles - Let's face it they did some of the best musical work of the sixties (just listen to the harmonies in their early stuff) and their tripped-out stuff was just random fun. I kinda liked McCartney/Wings too but they weren't nearly as original.

A lot of modern 'indie' bands take some serious cues from them, Animal Collective or Caribou for example you can hear stuff that could have come out of late-Beatles music.

Ladytron - Depressive electronica... I still like 'em.

Genesis - At least from back when prog and metal still hadn't entirely diverged, I've got a serious taste for epic music and it's pretty much their fault... the only peice of music I've ever recorded was pretty heavily influenced by it (I've lost the recording alas...)
AB Again
08-06-2006, 16:11
It's the band's real history, as told by the band members, friends, and acquaintances.

The real history is that they were manipulated by McLaren, but with the connivance of some of the band. You believe what you like. I will believe what I know from having been alive and living in West London in 1976. Personal experience is sufficient to convince me. but if you want to believe the hype, go ahead.
Potarius
08-06-2006, 16:18
The real history is that they were manipulated by McLaren, but with the connivance of some of the band. You believe what you like. I will believe what I know from having been alive and living in West London in 1976. Personal experience is sufficient to convince me. but if you want to believe the hype, go ahead.

You're the one believing the hype. It's one thing to have been around when the band was around, sure, but it's another to totally dismiss facts presented by the band itself, its producers, friends, and acquaintences, which is what you're doing.

Look. McLaren did manipulate the band, and that's true. But it was fiscal manipulation, not creative manipulation. Yes, they did wear clothes provided by Malcolm and Vivienne, though that was because they were *free clothes*; the band really couldn't afford much else, which is what I'm getting to...

...Malcolm withheld money from the band. Almost all of it, actually: Royalties, label contracts, appearance money... Virtually everything the band made went into Malcolm's pockets. This is why, in the 1980's, John, Steve, Glen, and Paul sued McLaren. Though most of the money had been squandered to make his self-promoting disaster of a film, the band still got plenty of money from the court victory.

Whatever, though. Believe what you want, I guess. I'm safe in the knowledge that I know what the band actually did, what Malcolm was responsible of doing, and why they were so popular with the youth in the day. I'm just asking that you don't forsake the words of the band, and everyone who was around them, just because you happened to be alive back in those days.
Arachaeoptei
08-06-2006, 16:25
Pink Floyd for me!
Arachaeoptei
08-06-2006, 16:27
Kobain assassinated? You mean Ms Love killed Kobain for political gain?
Secular Science
08-06-2006, 16:29
got to be the beatles. if you don't like the beatles then please rip out your ears as you clearly don't deserve them

meh... beatles are good, but FAR overrated. the way some people talk about them, they cured cancer, saved the world from artian invasion, and invented the wheel and sliced bread.
AB Again
08-06-2006, 16:31
meh... beatles are good, but FAR overrated. the way some people talk about them, they cured cancer, saved the world from artian invasion, and invented the wheel and sliced bread.

I knew the Rolling Stones had invented the wheel, but I thought that the Beatles had done the rest of this though. :p

Most influential band for me, (not music as that goes to the classical composers) were John Mayal's Bluesbreakers.
Cluichstan
08-06-2006, 16:33
I'd have to go with the band that the Baltimore City Paper compared the songs I'd written on my college band's demo to: The Velvet Undergound.
Sylibrium
08-06-2006, 16:37
Iron Maiden mostly influenced me. They were the first taste of rock music I got as a kid. My brother would play their vinyls. I still have those...they are like 20 years old and mint condition..must pay eBay a visit =P
Potarius
08-06-2006, 16:48
Iron Maiden mostly influenced me. They were the first taste of rock music I got as a kid. My brother would play their vinyls. I still have those...they are like 20 years old and mint condition..must pay eBay a visit =P

Why the fuck are you going to sell mint-condition Maiden LP's if you actually like them?
AB Again
08-06-2006, 16:50
Why the fuck are you going to sell mint-condition Maiden LP's if you actually like them?

Why not. Unless you have the equipment to extract the difference between vinyl and CDs then sell them and buy CDs and have a decent sum left over.
Sylibrium
08-06-2006, 16:52
Why the fuck are you going to sell mint-condition Maiden LP's if you actually like them?

I need booze money for summer parties and the like =P

But Converting the sound to Cd sounds very interesting. I good get quite some moeny for that..I think..'cos the records have some exclusive stuff.
Discoraversalism
08-06-2006, 16:54
Nirvana

Kurt Cobain is my idol. They were the most original band since the corny, unoriginal and uncreative hair/metal bands of the 80's.

The best thing is that Kurt didn't WANT to be a famous dude with everything he wanted. He wanted to play clubs around Seattle and make a living. Nirvana represented my views on society and corporations almost exactly.

Too bad Kurt Cobain was assassinated by a jealous wife.

seconded. Although I rate Zeppelin and Metallica higher.

I've been listenng to Pandora.com a lot, it will quickly help you compile your favorites, and design a streaming music feed around them. Here is my list:

http://www.pandora.com/people/mathiastck
Potarius
08-06-2006, 16:57
Why not. Unless you have the equipment to extract the difference between vinyl and CDs then sell them and buy CDs and have a decent sum left over.

Well, I have an entry-level record player with a built-in preamp, and there's still a big difference between my LP's and the CD's I've listened to. Not just subtle nuances, either. I'm talking a wider soundscape, warmer mids, cleaner highs (clean actually meaning CLEAN, without artificial band extrapolation, which is used very often on CD's), and richer lows.

There's a huge difference between listening to A Farewell To Kings in its original form, where the intro sounds like Alex is actually playing a classical guitar right in front of you, and listening to the same album as a remastered CD, where it sounds like Alex's classical acoustic is coming from a cardboard box.

And it's not just remasters, either. Bob Mould's Body Of Song was mastered in both analogue and digital, and there's massive difference between the LP and the CD.
AB Again
08-06-2006, 16:59
Well, I have an entry-level record player with a built-in preamp, and there's still a big difference between my LP's and the CD's I've listened to. Not just subtle nuances, either. I'm talking a wider soundscape, warmer mids, cleaner highs (clean actually meaning CLEAN, without artificial band extrapolation, which is used very often on CD's), and richer lows.

There's a huge difference between listening to A Farewell To Kings in its original form, where the intro sounds like Alex is actually playing a classical guitar right in front of you, and listening to the same album as a remastered CD, where it sounds like Alex's classical acoustic is coming from a cardboard box.

And it's not just remasters, either. Bob Mould's Body Of Song was mastered in both analogue and digital, and there's massive difference between the LP and the CD.

With Rush or other more subtle music, yes I agree with you (I actually only have A farewel to kings on vinyl). But with Maiden?

Additionally, as soon as he plays them they cease to be mint. So he can not actually listen to the music and have mint albums without having duplicates anyway.
Potarius
08-06-2006, 17:03
With Rush or other more subtle music, yes I agree with you (I actually only have A farewel to kings on vinyl). But with Maiden?

Well, I've never heard Maiden on vinyl, but I've heard Husker Du and Bob Mould's solo work on vinyl, and the two definitely have more "sound" (or noise, you could say) than Maiden (just listen to Celebrated Summer for Husker Du, and Paralyzed for Bob Mould).

I mean, on the Warehouse: Songs And Stories LP, you can hear Bob's guitar setup in full --- its unbelievable level of fuzz and distortion, not to mention the chorus. On the CD remaster, it's lifeless: the fuzz is almost killed completely.
Eritrita
08-06-2006, 17:06
Pink Floyd for me!
^Gotta be. Influential on me and music as a whole... light shows? Thank them. Psychedelia? Again, basically, thank them...
Ravea
29-06-2006, 03:52
Herbie Hancock, originally, and later Monk. Both got me into playing Jazz piano.
Cannot think of a name
29-06-2006, 04:00
Herbie Hancock, originally, and later Monk. Both got me into playing Jazz piano.
I remember a friends dad playing Monk and Coltrane and deciding that that was what the saxophone was made for. It literally changed my life.
Ravea
29-06-2006, 04:14
I remember a friends dad playing Monk and Coltrane and deciding that that was what the saxophone was made for. It literally changed my life.

Shit, man, I picked up Monk and Coltrane in Carnegie Hall about a month ago. That shit is amazing. Monk blows my damn mind. I can't belive that shit.

Anyways, my brother gave me Herbie Hancock's Takin' Off a while ago, and I ate that shit up like it was my life. Got me right out of playing classical to playing Jazz. I got into Monk and Dizzy, and then Miles a little later after that.

Anywho. Where do you live? I need a sax player who can actually play his instrument.
Cannot think of a name
29-06-2006, 04:44
Anywho. Where do you live? I need a sax player who can actually play his instrument.
Santa Cruz, but unfortunately it's been a while since I fit that description. I can still play, but my chops aren't what they used to be. It would take some serious woodshedding to get myself right agian, unfortunately.
Bumboat
29-06-2006, 04:48
Joan Jett
Ravea
29-06-2006, 04:55
Santa Cruz, but unfortunately it's been a while since I fit that description. I can still play, but my chops aren't what they used to be. It would take some serious woodshedding to get myself right agian, unfortunately.

Eh, wrong side of the country.

Look me up if you decide to get back into it seriously.
Cannot think of a name
29-06-2006, 05:03
Eh, wrong side of the country.

Look me up if you decide to get back into it seriously.
A cat I used to play with lives out east now, plays piano. Damned amazing player.
Ravea
29-06-2006, 05:38
A cat I used to play with lives out east now, plays piano. Damned amazing player.

I have everything except a good sax player (My last one just graduated) and a good drummer (Also graduated.) I'm in desperete need of a trumpet as well.

Heh, I met a blind piano player about half a year ago in Vermont. We did an interesting dual piano/bass version of Blue Monk at an open-mic thing, and the motherfucker completely blew me out of the water. God damn that guy was good.
Heavy Metal Soldiers
29-06-2006, 05:55
Depends on which of my many personalities is possessing me at the time!

Mood

Loving/Caring Me: Lionel Richie, Air Supply, Chicago, etc...!
Happy/Goofy Me: Everything 80's
Pissed Off/Hateful Me: Acid Bath, Exhorder, Deicide, etc...!
Dark/Depressed Me: My Dying Bride, Cradle of Filth, Seraphim Shock, etc...
Kinda Sensible people
29-06-2006, 06:19
Bad Religion. I mean, they're hardly the "punk" act that a lot of other groups are, but they changed my outlook on music. At some point in the summer of my 9th/10th grade year I had the good luck to stumble across a copy of "The Empire Strikes First" while dropping my Target to pick up a 6-pack of Mountain Dews to keep me awake through a late night gaming session.

I, foolishly thinking that since it was in Target it was the kind of pre-consumable, mindless trash that I was used to listening to, picked it up and took it to the front. I first listened to the CD something like 6 times over because I was too busy to close my window of Shadowbane and turn off WMP. By the end of the 6th listen through I had come to the conclusion that this was what music was meant to be. It was supposed to push boundaries, fight against injustice, and not be pop-crap.

While Bad Religion certainly isn't, say, Crass or The Clash, it was what pointed me in that direction.
Kanabia
29-06-2006, 07:26
Influential on me, or in terms of general influence?
N Y C
29-06-2006, 07:30
The Beatles, Bob Dylan and a huge number of other musicians from the 60s and 70s, despite being born well afterwards.
Desperate Measures
29-06-2006, 07:32
Velvet Underground.
Terrorist Cakes
29-06-2006, 07:39
The Smiths. They're so influential that nobody has heard of them; they've only heard of all the bands they influenced, and all the trends they created.
Cannot think of a name
29-06-2006, 07:42
The Smiths. They're so influential that nobody has heard of them; they've only heard of all the bands they influenced, and all the trends they created.
Who are you hanging out with that have never heard of The Smiths?
Soviet Haaregrad
29-06-2006, 07:44
Dillinger Escape Plan, The Locust, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Sonic Youth...

Weird bands that use odd sounds, time signatures or arrangements.
Myotisinia
29-06-2006, 07:51
Brian Eno, King Crimson, early Genesis, The Beatles, The Tubes, City Boy, 10cc and The Clash, in no particular order.

Nowadays I find myself listening to a lot of Tool and System Of A Down, though.
Terrorist Cakes
29-06-2006, 07:52
Who are you hanging out with that have never heard of The Smiths?

Average Canadian teens.
Pure Metal
29-06-2006, 08:37
depends on what you mean by "influential"


the most influential band, in terms of music, i listen to on a semi-regular basis would be Iron Maiden or the Beatles (listen to them a lot less)

personally influential, in terms of musical tastes, would be Jimi Hendrix and Alice Cooper, laying the foundations for my love of metal and my eventual return to classic rock and mellow tripped-out blues

the most influential, in terms of influencing me as a person, may well be Iron Maiden again, or perhaps Korn, historically speaking. these days it would be Pitchshifter as their politics = mine :)
Kanabia
29-06-2006, 12:44
The Smiths. They're so influential that nobody has heard of them; they've only heard of all the bands they influenced, and all the trends they created.

Who are you hanging out with that have never heard of The Smiths?

That's what I was wondering...
Kanabia
29-06-2006, 13:02
Well if we're talking personal influence, I have to say Nirvana.

Before Nirvana, I didn't really listen to any music - I was starting to open up a little with bands like Placebo, but Nirvana were the band that kicked me over the edge as soon as I heard Bleach. Obviously I knew of their more popular songs, but that was a turnoff for me, because I hated the idiots who only listened to bands because they were popular, and i'd written off Nirvana as just another one of those. Bleach opened my eyes to how it wasn't the case, and introduced me to dirty underground punk rock - i'd never heard anything like it before, because nobody around me listened to that shit. But I loved it. Still do. It opened up a whole range of different musical interests, from the slow downtuned metal of bands like the Melvins to the hardcore punk of the Dead Kennedys. And I branched out from there.

Rage Against the Machine were an influence too, since I was starting to develop my political beliefs, and a popular band that seemed to follow them fairly closely showed me how music can carry a message too.

Influence on my guitar playing is varied - at the moment i'd say Sonic Youth, Black Sabbath and Kyuss are the big ones...

Dillinger Escape Plan, The Locust, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Sonic Youth...

Weird bands that use odd sounds, time signatures or arrangements.

You should look into post-rock. I think you'd like it - I V Stalin is more educated in it than I, so he can make suggestions better than I can, though.
Pompous world
29-06-2006, 13:34
radiohead and queen
Hydesland
29-06-2006, 13:44
Beatles is just a gay boyband in my opinion, I dont care how many people like it. Simply not my type but I wont start an all out war on it here, its pretty tiring.
The most influencing music for me was Black Sabbath.

I'll have you know black sabbath were influenced more by beatles then any other band.
Maslaland
29-06-2006, 13:47
I'll have you know black sabbath were influenced more by beatles then any other band.
Corrected for you. The specific song that influence black sabbath the most is helter skelter (which funnily enough also influenced charles manson to get people killed).

EDIT: oh i worship the beatles too, i also find a lot of radioheads stuff influencial and muse (though their new album i find a bit crappy).
Hydesland
29-06-2006, 13:49
Corrected for you. The specific song that influence black sabbath the most is helter skelter.

Lol, i have no idea why i put interviewed.