NationStates Jolt Archive

Will it be a green and yellow flag with a boxing kangaroo or a black flag with a white feather that graces a flag pole at the UN first?

And when will Canada take the monarch off their currency? I certainly don't want to see Charles' nose on any loonies.

:confused:

Will it be a green and yellow flag with a boxing kangaroo or a black flag with a white feather that graces a flag pole at the UN first?

And when will Canada take the monarch off their currency? I certainly don't want to see Charles' nose on any loonies.

Meh...you want to be just another boring republic, without all those juicy gossip about YOUR royal family and other blue blooded hotties?

Australia's flag should feature this guy.

http://i5.tinypic.com/121pgm9.jpg

Or maybe a jar of vegamite.

Australia's flag should feature this guy.

http://i5.tinypic.com/121pgm9.jpg

Or maybe a jar of vegamite.
Or both. Him eating some vegamite.

Or both. Him eating some vegamite.
Now that's fucking Australian!

Says the guy from New Jersey.

Will it be a green and yellow flag with a boxing kangaroo or a black flag with a white feather that graces a flag pole at the UN first?

And when will Canada take the monarch off their currency? I certainly don't want to see Charles' nose on any loonies.

Meh. Most likely NZ will get there first. Just because they don't have as many stars as Australia does...

Canada's never going to take the monarch off of the loonie. Never. Even though our governor general....

okay, not getting into that...

what about an aboriginal design?

what about an aboriginal design?
What are you talking about? There are no aboriginals in Australia! The British would certainly NEVER take anybodies land and try to eliminate an entire ethnic group!
Never!
Now take a few pounds and go away before MI6 comes after you.

I didn't know there was any talk of changing them. Are there any proposed designs?

I think if there are some good designs waiting, you guys should use them, instead of just sticking our flag up in the corner.

Why should either state change them? They show the strong influence Britain had on both countries, along with (I think, at least) some of the prettiest iconography on any flag.

There is an Aboriginal flag, btw. Unfortunately, it's hideous.

a black flag with a white feather that graces a flag pole at the UN first?.


It's a motherfucking fern.

New Zealand. I like the simplicity of the white on black. Its a sexy design.

Australia, will come next.

Canada... I wish they could take her face off ASAP, but won't be happening anytime soon.... I'll just wait a decade or two... :p

How about this one?

http://au.geocities.com/daveclarkecb/Cartoons/AustFlagNew.gif

It's a motherfucking fern.
Yeah, well you should get better artists, because it looks like a motherfucking feather.

http://eurekasydney.com/images/eureka_flag.jpg

Bitches.

(or the one I use for NS'd be cool too :p)


How about this one?

http://au.geocities.com/daveclarkecb/Cartoons/AustFlagNew.gif

Ugh. lol.

Wasn't that the flag used by Irish immigrant Republicans in a revolt in Australia?

Fargozia']Wasn't that the flag used by Irish immigrant Republicans in a revolt in Australia?

Miners, actually - I doubt they were exclusively Irish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_rebellion

How about this one?

http://au.geocities.com/daveclarkecb/Cartoons/AustFlagNew.gif

Mesmerizing...

Miners, actually - I doubt they were exclusively Irish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_rebellion

Great works! Not all of us were Irish.

Raffaello Carboni.

I agree with the first post, calling it a white feather on a black background.
Sure it's supposed to be a silver fern on black. But personally its a white feather (Cowardice) on black (Grieving). Any country that doesn't particularly know NZ will see it that way, not knowing about the fern etc.

I doubt that we will be changing our flag anytime soon.. When (or if) we become a rupublic, it will probably be changed then.

I doubt that we will be changing our flag anytime soon.. When (or if) we become a rupublic, it will probably be changed then.

I'm in the 'why bother?' camp for becoming a republic. I'm probably just not patriotic enough, even though I have a New Zealand flag hanging in my room.

I'm in the 'why bother?' camp for becoming a republic. I'm probably just not patriotic enough, even though I have a New Zealand flag hanging in my room.
Well you're more patriotic than me.
I don't care to be honest.

Australia will become a republic before it changes its flag.

And a republic is looking a long way away.

Or both. Him eating some vegamite.
... playing a didgeridoo, drinking a tinny of fosters and a speech bubble saying 'mate!'
(and underneath: "bonza! its australia!")


or some other stereotypical nonsense :)

... playing a didgeridoo, drinking a tinny of fosters and a speech bubble saying 'mate!'
(and underneath: "bonza! its australia!")


or some other stereotypical nonsense :)
Mmm..

Fosters=good.

http://eurekasydney.com/images/eureka_flag.jpg

Bitches.
If it's corrected to have the original white trim around the stars, that would be perfect. Far stronger, much nicer than the current flag, and undoubtedly Australian.

There is an Aboriginal flag, btw. Unfortunately, it's hideous.
What exactly is wrong with it? It's quite elegant, with good colours.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/Australian_Aboriginal_Flag.svg/240px-Australian_Aboriginal_Flag.svg.png

Will it be a green and yellow flag with a boxing kangaroo or a black flag with a white feather that graces a flag pole at the UN first?

And when will Canada take the monarch off their currency? I certainly don't want to see Charles' nose on any loonies.
Congratulations we have a moron from 50th, Division 8th Army!

http://eurekasydney.com/images/eureka_flag.jpg

Bitches.



That would be my choice.

Australian, when it becomes a state of USA ... :confused:

How about this one?

http://au.geocities.com/daveclarkecb/Cartoons/AustFlagNew.gif

lol ill be dead b4 that ever happens

Mmm..

Fosters=good.

mmmm..

fosters = horse piss

That would be my choice.

Mine also.

3 December 2004 was the 150th aniversary of the Eureka Stockade. The ACT government put eureka flags up in front of the federal parliament. It looked fantastic.

It's a shame that extreme right and left groups have adopted the flag. As a result it has a ratbag association for many people.

Errinundera']
It's a shame that extreme right and left groups have adopted the flag. As a result it has a ratbag association for many people.

I don't think that's really the case anymore. It tends to typify the union movement nowadays more than anything. Unless of course, you consider unions to be extreme. *shrugs*

I don't think that's really the case anymore. It tends to typify the union movement nowadays more than anything. Unless of course, you consider unions to be extreme. *shrugs*

While it's a symbol of the union movement, most people won't want it as their national flag. Which is a shame. *shrugs also*

BTW, I'm a member of the ASU.

what about an aboriginal design?
yes finally someone has reconised aboriginal flag rights :D

What exactly is wrong with it? It's quite elegant, with good colours.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/Australian_Aboriginal_Flag.svg/240px-Australian_Aboriginal_Flag.svg.png


Looks like shit. Aboriginal shit. It puts shame on the rising sun.

I didn't know there was any talk of changing them. Are there any proposed designs?

I think if there are some good designs waiting, you guys should use them, instead of just sticking our flag up in the corner.
http://www.nzflag.com/

*cough*

Canada... I wish they could take her face off ASAP, but won't be happening anytime soon.... I'll just wait a decade or two... :p

Canada's head of state is still the Queen. Queen Elizabeth II.

Canada's head of state is still the Queen. Queen Elizabeth II.


The Queen.
God bless her.

And save her :D

I like the Eureaka flag, but the new Australian flag will (if or when we become a republic) probably be a copy of the old one, just minus the Union Jack.

The Queen.
God bless her.

I'd give her one.

I'd give her one.


One what?
*suspicious look*

are u guys drunk? a silver fern? boxing kangaroo?

a flag should be taken more seriously and be designed more proffessionally than simply basing it on commercial marketing designs.

are u guys drunk? a silver fern? boxing kangaroo?

a flag should be taken more seriously and be designed more proffessionally than simply basing it on commercial marketing designs.


A cricket-bat for Australia...

The Queen.
God bless her.

Reminds me of a joke:

Q. What's got four legs and goes up Buckingham Palace staircases backwards?

A. A corgi with an erection.

Errinundera']Reminds me of a joke:

Q. What's got four legs and goes up Buckingham Palace staircases backwards?

A. A corgi with an erection.


BLASPHEMER!!!!!

*pelts you with cans of Castlemain XXXX*

lol ill be dead b4 that ever happens



mmmm..

fosters = horse piss
I agree and i don't know what Peisandros was thinking.:confused:

are u guys drunk? a silver fern? boxing kangaroo?

a flag should be taken more seriously and be designed more proffessionally than simply basing it on commercial marketing designs.

I'd hide in shame if the boxing kangaroo became our flag. Mind you, having someone else's flag in the corner is shameful to start with.

I think an NZ flag with a silver fern on a black background would be great - so long as the fern didn't look so much like a feather.

Errinundera']I'd hide in shame if the boxing kangaroo became our flag. Mind you, having someone else's flag in the corner is shameful to start with.
There's nothing wrong with a flag that shows your history, especially when your history is so dominated by that flag.

Don't forget that the Union Flag itself is a reference to a Union that no longer exists.

The flag debate in Australia rears its head now and then, but overall I don't think most Aussies care to be honest.

Personally, I like the Eureka flag a lot, and think it would make an excellent national flag, but whenever the issue is raised, the RSL protests, the monarchists scream, and the majority that don't care yawn, so the idea disappears again.

I think a republic will come first for us, then a new flag.

I think that if Australia was to go and get a new flag they would need to use a flag that was newly designed. They cannot use pre-used flags such as the aborigional flag or the Eureka Stockade flag because they have meaning and stuff associated with them, and if they did use them ethnic group a would accuse the gov of exploiting minority b becuase it uses a symbol of organisation c....

When they make a new flag it would have to be unique, similarily to the olympic flag from 6 years ago. It was unique but it still recognised the history of Australia....

Errinundera']I'd hide in shame if the boxing kangaroo became our flag. Mind you, having someone else's flag in the corner is shameful to start with.

I think an NZ flag with a silver fern on a black background would be great - so long as the fern didn't look so much like a feather.
:mad:
The Abos want their land back!

There's nothing wrong with a flag that shows your history, especially when your history is so dominated by that flag.

Don't forget that the Union Flag itself is a reference to a Union that no longer exists.
Although the St. Patrick's Cross as it appears on the flag in a saltire form was never really Irish anyway, but was dreamed up by an Englishman, so I don't think it's too much of an issue.

Lokking at the pro new flag sites of New Zealand and Australia
http://www.nzflag.com/default.cfm
http://www.ausflag.com.au/home.html
I can't help but thinking that the New Zealand designers have the right idea about designing a distinctive flag that also reflects the country. I just think that stars on a blue background have been done to death. If the European Union is using it then you can tell it's the last recourse of unimaginative and uninspiring committee based decision making.

The original Eureka flag can still be seen at the Ballarat Fine Art Gallery (http://amol.org.au/art_trails/ballarat/images/obj5_eur.JPG)

I think that if Australia was to go and get a new flag they would need to use a flag that was newly designed. They cannot use pre-used flags such as the aborigional flag or the Eureka Stockade flag because they have meaning and stuff associated with them, and if they did use them ethnic group a would accuse the gov of exploiting minority b becuase it uses a symbol of organisation c....

When they make a new flag it would have to be unique, similarily to the olympic flag from 6 years ago. It was unique but it still recognised the history of Australia....

What was the Olympic flag, I don't remember it?

One what?
*suspicious look*

You know, slip her a length.

What was the Olympic flag, I don't remember it?http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e9/2000summerolympicslogo.jpg

it was kinda made up of boomerangs, yet it wasn't over done

How about this one?

http://au.geocities.com/daveclarkecb/Cartoons/AustFlagNew.gif



hahaha nice flag....yes i second this....after all whats the difference between america and australia........the amount of nukes one declares it has and the other doesnt....lol
NO NUKES IS BAD NUKES

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e9/2000summerolympicslogo.jpg

it was kinda made up of boomerangs, yet it wasn't over done

I remember it now. It's hard to do symbols/flags like that, because they tend to date pretty badly.

Pshycotic Military: take your pills and go to bed...

I remember it now. It's hard to do symbols/flags like that, because they tend to date pretty badly.
thats true, but The theory that it should not be overly reliant on any single group of people is still there

The original Eureka flag can still be seen at the Ballarat Fine Art Gallery (http://amol.org.au/art_trails/ballarat/images/obj5_eur.JPG)

Bakery Hill eh? Not in the McDonalds there are you?

hahaha nice flag....yes i second this....after all whats the difference between america and australia........the amount of nukes one declares it has and the other doesnt....lol
NO NUKES IS BAD NUKES


*re-sized so it doesn't hurt my eyes*

WTF?? What is your point?

I don't think the Eureka flag should be the Australian national flag. What I *do* think is that the Eureka flag ought to be adopted as the Victorian state flag. Eureka is far more relevant to Victoria than it is to the rest of the country. Although, seeing the Eureka flag flying off the HMAS Ballarat while it was moored in Geelong during the 150th anniversary celebrations was something special...

Adopting the Eureka flag as an offical flag would have the added bonus of taking it away from the extreme ends of politics. It would be pretty silly for someone to be waving the Victorian flag around during a protest rally - it it were Victoria that adopted it, that is.

You know, slip her a length.


*tries to inform the Star Chamber*
Oh, they're closed.
*screams in frustration*

And when will Canada take the monarch off their currency? I certainly don't want to see Charles' nose on any loonies.
When we are no longer part of the Commonwealth.

As a representitive (self-appointed) of all the other cool countries, I can tell you that we would think that you guys were cool if you used that white fern flag as the New Zealish flag.

P.S. You guys should use the phrase New Zealish as the impersonal adjective.

P.P.S. Also I prefer http://www.perfectduluthday.com/bush_binoculars.jpg this one for Australia - first I thought the kangaroo was tacky, but then I thought that it actually made quite a good symbolic thing.

When we are no longer part of the Commonwealth.

Yeah you are.

And when will Canada take the monarch off their currency? I certainly don't want to see Charles' nose on any loonies.

As a proud Canadian I love having the monarch on our currency, and I would even if Charles were King. Luckily, QEII is smart enough not to retire until it is appropriate to pass the crown right on to one of her grandkids, skipping Charles altogether.

*tries to inform the Star Chamber*
Oh, they're closed.
*screams in frustration*

Yeah, I'd do her in her Star Chamber. I'm not fussy.

Never I hope.

I am very pro British, rule Britannia, God Bless The Queen.

Canada, Australia, New Zealand, all European Nations and the USA should form a political, economic and social union.

As a proud Canadian I love having the monarch on our currency, and I would even if Charles were King. Luckily, QEII is smart enough not to retire until it is appropriate to pass the crown right on to one of her grandkids, skipping Charles altogether.
As a proud Canadian, I hate having the monarch on our currency. Darn Brits! This is our country!

Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand should form one economic, political and social union, Rule Britannia, God Bless The Queen.

Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand should form one economic, political and social union, Rule Britannia, God Bless The Queen.


Yeah we did that for a while until we realised there was more money to be made by not having our main export partner on the other side of the world.

Take the Union Jack off... Aus and NZ are way better than that.

I remember it now. It's hard to do symbols/flags like that, because they tend to date pretty badly.
By date pretty quickly you mean like that design was so overdone i nthe 80's!!!

Odds are good New Zealand's flag will not change unless it becomes a republic.

odds are good New Zealand will never become a republic due to the wording of the treaty of waitangi requireing a monarch, and how utterly screwed up the whole thing would become as a result.

thing is, the Only flag people want more than the current one, in polls thus far done than i have seen, is the white fern on the black background. problem: no one wants to be burryed with a black flag if they're in the military, or otherwise deserving of such a burial.

on another note: NZ Navy, actually built up [they seem to finaly be starting to get somewhere inteligent with that now] flying a black flag with a white symbol?

hehehehe. there's a reason pirates used those colours: black for death and .. well, generaly, it was white because of bones, but hey *shrugs*

what better way to put the fear of God and guns into whalers and the like?

:D

Odds are good New Zealand's flag will not change unless it becomes a republic.

odds are good New Zealand will never become a republic due to the wording of the treaty of waitangi requireing a monarch, and how utterly screwed up the whole thing would become as a result.

thing is, the Only flag people want more than the current one, in polls thus far done than i have seen, is the white fern on the black background. problem: no one wants to be burryed with a black flag if they're in the military, or otherwise deserving of such a burial.

on another note: NZ Navy, actually built up [they seem to finaly be starting to get somewhere inteligent with that now] flying a black flag with a white symbol?

hehehehe. there's a reason pirates used those colours: black for death and .. well, generaly, it was white because of bones, but hey *shrugs*

what better way to put the fear of God and guns into whalers and the like?

:D
The Navy is doing what now?

The Navy is doing what now?


the NZ navey. if you can track down the sites and pages detailing it's plans, roughly, for the next ten years, new ships and the like..

it's not getting more powerful or anything, but it's being more focused. theoreticly becomeing more effetive.

still will be utterly incapable of takeing on anyone in proper combat...

but yeah... it's actually starting to seem like it's actually worth haveing around, rather than... umm... barly more useful than the airforce.

those new MRVs and patrol boats... combined with some minor upgrades to the old frigates.. meh *shrugs*

assumeing that's what you were amazed by. the whole bit about shooting whalers is mearly a dream of mine :)

Will it be a green and yellow flag with a boxing kangaroo or a black flag with a white feather that graces a flag pole at the UN first?

And when will Canada take the monarch off their currency? I certainly don't want to see Charles' nose on any loonies.
I don't understand.

I agree with the first post, calling it a white feather on a black background.
Sure it's supposed to be a silver fern on black. But personally its a white feather (Cowardice) on black (Grieving). Any country that doesn't particularly know NZ will see it that way, not knowing about the fern etc.
I did not know that white feathers meant anything beyond 'white birds' (or possibly any colour birds with the addition of some bleach)...

Are you honestly suggesting the whole nation of NZ should hold its flag to the ransom of the opinions of countries who dont even particularly know them? Is this a good time to ask if you 'get' the whole sheep-joke thing....it's not necessarily just a numbers game you know....:rolleyes:

a flag should be taken more seriously and be designed more proffessionally than simply basing it on commercial marketing designs.
I couldnt disagree more....

odds are good New Zealand will never become a republic due to the wording of the treaty of waitangi requireing a monarch, and how utterly screwed up the whole thing would become as a result.
I dont see that the wording of some old non-legally binding document is a necessarly barrier to New Zealand ever becoming a republic. I expect everyone concerned due to possible Treaty implications that might arise should NZ become a republic, is a much smaller group than the group of 'we dont care except it'll cost a load of cash and buggered if we are paying up for it when the whole issue isnt really (an issue)'.

no one wants to be burryed with a black flag if they're in the military, or otherwise deserving of such a burial.

To be fair, I dont know that many people are keen on been buried regardless of what if any flag might or might not be involved. Of course many people do get burried once they are dead, which kinda really makes what if any flag is burried with them probably a non-issue....at least none of the dead people I've been involved in the burrying of have expressed any complaints so far...

I should mention that our soldiers in Timor wear the silver fern instead of the NZ flag because locals are more likely to get hostile when they see a union jack.

the NZ navey. if you can track down the sites and pages detailing it's plans, roughly, for the next ten years, new ships and the like..

it's not getting more powerful or anything, but it's being more focused. theoreticly becomeing more effetive.

still will be utterly incapable of takeing on anyone in proper combat...

but yeah... it's actually starting to seem like it's actually worth haveing around, rather than... umm... barly more useful than the airforce.

those new MRVs and patrol boats... combined with some minor upgrades to the old frigates.. meh *shrugs*

assumeing that's what you were amazed by. the whole bit about shooting whalers is mearly a dream of mine :)

Too many 'e's!!!
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the NZ navey. if you can track down the sites and pages detailing it's plans, roughly, for the next ten years, new ships and the like..

it's not getting more powerful or anything, but it's being more focused. theoreticly becomeing more effetive.

still will be utterly incapable of takeing on anyone in proper combat...

but yeah... it's actually starting to seem like it's actually worth haveing around, rather than... umm... barly more useful than the airforce.

those new MRVs and patrol boats... combined with some minor upgrades to the old frigates.. meh *shrugs*

assumeing that's what you were amazed by. the whole bit about shooting whalers is mearly a dream of mine :)
I also dream of some day shooting whalers but i was talking about the Flag.
We should claim them as prizes of war especially those Argentines chasing Patagonian Toothfish just take their boats and those Jap whalers in the Whale sanctuary do the same, i am sure it is perfectly legal to detain them.

I should mention that our soldiers in Timor wear the silver fern instead of the NZ flag because locals are more likely to get hostile when they see a union jack.
Is that true because that is just stupid, England sent the Sir Gallahad as well as other ships to East Timor back in '99 to help assist KForce.
I am interested to hear where you learnt this.

I also dream of some day shooting whalers but i was talking about the Flag.
We should claim them as prizes of war especially those Argentines chasing Patagonian Toothfish just take their boats and those Jap whalers in the Whale sanctuary do the same, i am sure it is perfectly legal to detain them.


Is that true because that is just stupid, England sent the Sir Gallahad as well as other ships to East Timor back in '99 to help assist KForce.
I am interested to hear where you learnt this.

ahh.. ok, they don't use that flag on the ships, i just ment it would be... psychologicaly interesting if they did.

humm... as for the flags on the soldiers... it's possible. they wouldn't want to be confused with anyone else. NZ troops have an interesting repuation.

people see NZ military engineers, for example, the emphasis is on NZ and Enginers. british, US, or even australian, the emphasis is on MILITARY. don't ask me why, but apparantly it is so.

so far as i was aware, however, they used a red kiwi on a blue background? or am i gettin that confused with something else?

now, whoever said there was a large element of "can't be bothered" to NZ not becomeing a republic.. this is partially true. but also a factor is that Kiwis, in general, seem to be rather conservative about such things, however radical they might be about the enviroment or taxes or whatever else.

from what i;'ve seen, at least.

I should mention that our soldiers in Timor wear the silver fern instead of the NZ flag because locals are more likely to get hostile when they see a union jack.

I doubt that's the reason. Its more likely that the silver fern is nore distinctive to New Zealand, and it is easier to do in a subdued form.