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Jon Stewart is widely recognized as the most established and legitimate fake news man on television, but Steven Colbert is fast gaining a following among those tired of Stewart's left wing bias. Who, in your opinion, is the best fake news man?

Steven Colbert http://www.colbertnation.com/colbertnation/

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Jon Stewart http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/index.jhtml

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Tough call. I wouldn't call either of them "fake" news because the news they report is real news, they must make fun of it.

Stewart is clearly liberally biased while Colbert is, well, also liberally biased ... just not so clear about it. His biting sarcasm, cleverly disguised to make him look like a conservative, gives him a slight edge over Stewart.

Stewart's ability to rip a new cornhole into every neocon he's had on his show is a thing of beauty to watch. He even got Bill Bennett to admit that the conservatives have lost the debate on gay marriage.

Both shows together are the funniest hour on television in the history of all television.

Drunk Commies is obviously the best fake news person. :D

Jon Stewart, in my opinion. But I am very curious to see how he would handle a democratic administration.

I would have to say Steven, espically his segment called "The Word". :D

Jon Stewart, in my opinion. But I am very curious to see how he would handle a democratic administration.

kids these days...

who was in office during 1999 and 2000 again?

I'm going with Drunk Commies on this one.


I cant stand colbert or stewart, would only watch them again if they were in a death match against each other.

"I get my fake news from fox"

:p AHAHAHA! :)

Why didn't you have the Mercer Report on there? It's just as good, or This Hour Has 22 Minutes?

Stewart is more serious while Colbert is more satirical. They both complement each other.

Why didn't you have the Mercer Report on there? It's just as good, or This Hour Has 22 Minutes?
Probably because I've never heard of them.

I dunno.. after watching Colbert stifle tears on the Daily Show's Election 2004 show when he had to announce that Kerry was losing a key state, I've been a bit skeptical of his ability to poke fun at both sides the way Stewart can. I kinda like John Stewart, and his bit players are great a lot of the time. Daily Show wins in my book.

kids these days...

who was in office during 1999 and 2000 again?
I didn't discover the daily show before 2001, so I haven't seen the full extent of his powers ;)

Stewart is more serious while Colbert is more satirical. They both complement each other.
I agree. I miss the time when they were both on the same show :(

It's not really a fair comparison. The Daily Show is fake news. The Colbert Report is a parody of fake news shows, especially The Daily Show and The O'Reilley Factor

It's not really a fair comparison. The Daily Show is fake news. The Colbert Report is a parody of fake news shows, especially The Daily Show and The O'Reilley Factor

Well, the Daily Show makes fun of the real news through the host's viewpoints. The Colbert Report makes fun of other people's viewpoints through parody, including news if necessary.

I like Stewart more, but the way Colbert gets conservatives by embracing their talking points, driving them to an absurd extreme and then challenging them to embrace them as well is masterful. It's gorgeous the way he does it, like the way he reduced Bill Kristol to a spluttering boob about the PNAC stuff. An artist at work.

And I saw the Bennett clip as well--Stewart was extraordinary there, but in a different way.

i hate how he keeps bashing democrats, but Colbert is the ultimate fake newscaster. he's better of with Stewart.

Jon Stewart and Drunk Commies.

I like Stewart more, but the way Colbert gets conservatives by embracing their talking points, driving them to an absurd extreme and then challenging them to embrace them as well is masterful. It's gorgeous the way he does it, like the way he reduced Bill Kristol to a spluttering boob about the PNAC stuff. An artist at work.

And I saw the Bennett clip as well--Stewart was extraordinary there, but in a different way.

Indeed. And I am a conservative. :) (Not a Republican, mind you. paeleoconservative, of sorts)

Indeed. And I am a conservative. :) (Not a Republican, mind you. paeleoconservative, of sorts)

I'm a Brit and watch the online feeds of their programs. I like them both but in terms of laughs per minute Colbert is an easy winner.

paeleoconservative

That is the most kickass new word I've seen in ages. I want that put into wide use ... now. You will get full credit.

That is the most kickass new word I've seen in ages. I want that put into wide use ... now. You will get full credit.
It could also be spelled pale-e-oconservative, since it generally refers to a bunch of old white guys.

Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert aren't drunk commies?

Well, I consider them to be more as pothead commies. They never take anything seriously, everything is nothing but a joke to them.

They're proud to associate themselves with the far and radical left. People such as, Howard Dean, the hollywood aristocracy, and let's not forget the most dispicable of them all Michael Moore.

I love Jon Stewart and the Daily Show, but Steven Cobert (ugh) is really annoying and unfunny.

That is the most kickass new word I've seen in ages. I want that put into wide use ... now. You will get full credit.

It's not mine, but I won't tell you that.

w00t! *bows*

It could also be spelled pale-e-oconservative, since it generally refers to a bunch of old white guys.

Well, paeleoconservativism is reffering to what the REpublican Party is supposed to stand for -- free market and small government. Not quite as much as libertarianism when it comes to freedom, but not nearly as restrictive as the GOP platform is now. Nor as corrupt.

They're proud to associate themselves with the far and radical left. People such as, Howard Dean, the hollywood aristocracy, and let's not forget the most dispicable of them all Michael Moore.

And that's why nearly everyone loves them. Because the whole world knows that it's the leftist radicals who are the true Americans and everyone else is just biding their time until they can get into Jesusland.

And that's why nearly everyone loves them. Because the whole world knows that it's the leftist radicals who are the true Americans and everyone else is just biding their time until they can get into Jesusland.

I disagree. :D

Well, paeleoconservativism is reffering to what the REpublican Party is supposed to stand for -- free market and small government.

In short, the true "Party of Lincoln". I could live with that ... I really, genuinely could. I hope you guys will some day rebel and retake your Party just as the Democrats had to do to take the Party back from the likes of Leiberman and Hillary Clinton (still a work in progress, bear with us, pardon our construction mess).

Until then, though, you guys got a long road ahead. I wish you luck.

Well, paeleoconservativism is reffering to what the REpublican Party is supposed to stand for -- free market and small government. Not quite as much as libertarianism when it comes to freedom, but not nearly as restrictive as the GOP platform is now. Nor as corrupt.
Oh, I know. The sad thing is that the paleoconservatives have far more in common with the Democratic party than the Republicans do, at least right now. So do Libertarians, for that matter.

Tough call. I wouldn't call either of them "fake" news because the news they report is real news, they must make fun of it.

Stewart is clearly liberally biased while Colbert is, well, also liberally biased ... just not so clear about it. His biting sarcasm, cleverly disguised to make him look like a conservative, gives him a slight edge over Stewart.

Stewart's ability to rip a new cornhole into every neocon he's had on his show is a thing of beauty to watch. He even got Bill Bennett to admit that the conservatives have lost the debate on gay marriage.

Both shows together are the funniest hour on television in the history of all television.

i have to say that it is must see tv for me..that hour,rarely miss it..outstanding comedy and insightful at the same time.
i am no liberal or conservative,but i have to admit,they both have me in stitches most times.

Colbert; it takes a real man, an American man to be able not to crack up at his own jokes.

Colbert; it takes a real man, an American man to be able not to crack up at his own jokes.
I thought that was because he isn't funny...

Oh, I know. The sad thing is that the paleoconservatives have far more in common with the Democratic party than the Republicans do, at least right now. So do Libertarians, for that matter.

Um...not really. The Democratic party is kinda...well, non-existant, if you think about it. I mean, what is the real DP platform anyways? Democrats are pretty much "anyone not a republican."

o.O

And Saige Dragon, I agree. :D

I thought that was because he isn't funny...

Heathen.

Um...not really. The Democratic party is kinda...well, non-existant, if you think about it. I mean, what is the real DP platform anyways? Democrats are pretty much "anyone not a republican."


Actually, that's true. We don't have the hive-mind collective that Republicans tend to get. We're more rebellious against our Party leaders and don't just take their word on things.

We are a wide range of people of differing political natures. From the radical leftist hippies - like me - to the more socially conservative, may-as-well-be Republicans - like Joseph Leiberman.

Will Rogers said it over seventy years ago: "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."

Why didn't you have the Mercer Report on there? It's just as good, or This Hour Has 22 Minutes?

Because Canadian comedy shows suck..... and because the poll is about colbert and stewart.

Actually, that's true. We don't have the hive-mind collective that Republicans tend to get. We're more rebellious against our Party leaders and don't just take their word on things.

Indeed. However, we've got two extremes. Hive-mind and "WTF"

We are a wide range of people of differing political natures. From the radical leftist hippies - like me - to the more socially conservative, may-as-well-be Republicans - like Joseph Leiberman.

Indeed.

Will Rogers said it over seventy years ago: "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."

How true. :D

Andy Rooney (one of my heroes) said pretty much the same thing.

"If you don't know what you are, you're probably a Democrat."

Colbert is quicker, funnier, and has better hair.

End of discussion.

I thought that was because he isn't funny...
stfu noob

Heathen.
Actually, yes. I'm so much of an atheist that I live a life of sin devoid of morals, and I'm planning to destroy Christianity and force my Commie-Atheist agenda onto the Christians.

All that and I'm a cannibal and I support murder. After all, if I don't think that there's a god, why should I see anything wrong with brutally slaughtering my fellow human beings?

Why is there no "Bears" option?

Actually, yes. I'm so much of an atheist that I live a life of sin devoid of morals, and I'm planning to destroy Christianity and force my Commie-Atheist agenda onto the Christians.

All that and I'm a cannibal and I support murder. After all, if I don't think that there's a god, why should I see anything wrong with brutally slaughtering my fellow human beings?

That's cool.

Stewart should run for presidency in 2008. :)

Actually, yes. I'm so much of an atheist that I live a life of sin devoid of morals, and I'm planning to destroy Christianity and force my Commie-Atheist agenda onto the Christians.

All that and I'm a cannibal and I support murder. After all, if I don't think that there's a god, why should I see anything wrong with brutally slaughtering my fellow human beings?

I bet you're a riot at parties.

Actually, yes. I'm so much of an atheist that I live a life of sin devoid of morals, and I'm planning to destroy Christianity and force my Commie-Atheist agenda onto the Christians.

All that and I'm a cannibal and I support murder. After all, if I don't think that there's a god, why should I see anything wrong with brutally slaughtering my fellow human beings?
:eek:

*Composes myself*

Hah, Lucifer, you have revealed yourself too soon!

Now, prepare for mortal combat!

*Gets out cross*

:eek:

*Composes myself*

Hah, Lucifer, you have revealed yourself too soon!

Now, prepare for mortal combat!

*Gets out cross*

*puts on Shao Kahns Armour*

Round one...FIGHT!

*takes of armour, as it's really wierd*

*watches battle*

Actually, that's true. We don't have the hive-mind collective that Republicans tend to get. We're more rebellious against our Party leaders and don't just take their word on things.

We are a wide range of people of differing political natures. From the radical leftist hippies - like me - to the more socially conservative, may-as-well-be Republicans - like Joseph Leiberman.

Will Rogers said it over seventy years ago: "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."
I've often wondered if Will Rogers stole that from Oscar Wilde. In The Importance of Being Earnest, there's this little scene:
Lady Bracknell: What are your politics?
Jack: Well, I'm afraid I really have none. I am a liberal unionist.

*puts on Shao Kahns Armour*

Round one...FIGHT!

*takes of armour, as it's really wierd*

*watches battle*
*Wonders what a bystander is doing in Shao Kahns Armor*

*Impales Lucifer (Adam the Batlord) with cross, killing him instantly*

Well that was easy...

Why is there no "Bears" option?

Umm, because John Stewart and Colbert are brilliant, funny men, whereas Bears are simply destroying our nation.

Who, in your opinion, is the best fake news man?


http://www.montypythonpages.com/pictures/signed/jc3.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cleese)

I would have to say Steven, espically his segment called "The Word". :D
Hell yeah.

The best fake news, The Onion
The best satirical news, Jon Stewart

Colbert is good, especially his segment 'The Word' but his show doesn't make me laugh out loud like stewarts does. And when Stewart had Bennett on and just demolished him, I almost stood up and cheered.

At this point, I think I'd have Jon Stewarts love child, and I hate kids.

television is all 'fake' in as much as control and bias are concerned. i don't know the names any more because i stopped watching or believing one word of it decades ago.

there is one name i must mention though. a name most may have forgotten, though his time is rappidly approaching if not already upon us.

and that would have to be Max Headroom! (the a.i. pirate so fake he will have been real. too close to truth to ever have gone totaly mainstream. or at least that was/will be the concept).

=^^=
.../\...

I chose Colbert, because since the 2004 election Jon's been moving more to the left, whereas I REALLY enjoyed in the past when he bashed both parties with equal glee.

I'd love to see Jon Stewart and Steve Miller have a 2008 Election Night program. :)

BTW: Where is the NEW YORK TIMES option?!?

Colbert is funny as hell, and puts on a great show, but Stewart is comic genius, and incredibly smart.

I chose Colbert, because since the 2004 election Jon's been moving more to the left, whereas I REALLY enjoyed in the past when he bashed both parties with equal glee.
The left has no source material until they actually get seats in government. And really, Bush says something retarded everyday.

*Wonders what a bystander is doing in Shao Kahns Armor*

*Impales Lucifer (Adam the Batlord) with cross, killing him instantly*

Well that was easy...
Ha! You wish. You can't kill somebody who feeds on the blood of Christians! It makes us immortal!

I bet you're a riot at parties.
You bet your sweet ass I am!

Stewart was the original, but Colbert is funnier. Colbert was not there since the beginning with Stewart, although he did not join in TOO late to not be considered part of the cast, and just a quick afterthought. Colbert is hilarious, and Stewart is God. Stewart created fake news, Colbert perfected it.

DISCLAIMER: I AM A TOTAL MORON, DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING I SAY SERIOUSLY OR YOUR FACE MAY IMPLODE, AND YOUR BRAIN WILL EXPLODE. ALSO, I DO TAKE MYSELF SERIOUSLY, SO DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING I SAY FORGRANTED, OR I WILL REMOVE YOUR HANDS AND EAT THEM IN MY CHILI.

Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert aren't drunk commies?

Well, I consider them to be more as pothead commies. They never take anything seriously, everything is nothing but a joke to them.

They're proud to associate themselves with the far and radical left. People such as, Howard Dean, the hollywood aristocracy, and let's not forget the most dispicable of them all Michael Moore.
Howard Dean is the radical left? He's pro-gun, pro balanced budgets, and recently came out against gay marriage. So who's centrist in your opinion, Hitler?

Because Canadian comedy shows suck..... and because the poll is about colbert and stewart.


They are very good actually, but they are very topical to Canada. You won't get it if you don't know Canadian news and poplitics.

Well, This Hour has 22 Minutes used to be very good, I haven't watched it much since the cast changed.

They are very good actually, but they are very topical to Canada. You won't get it if you don't know Canadian news and poplitics.

Well, This Hour has 22 Minutes used to be very good, I haven't watched it much since the cast changed.

I haven't seen 22 Minutes since Rick Mercer was still on.

I liked the Weekend Update with Kevin Newman, and also Chevy Chase. The only problem with Colbert is that you have to watch the pundit-shows to know what he's making fun of, and I can't bear to do that.

Stewart was the original, but Colbert is funnier. Colbert was not there since the beginning with Stewart, although he did not join in TOO late to not be considered part of the cast, and just a quick afterthought. Colbert is hilarious, and Stewart is God. Stewart created fake news, Colbert perfected it.

DISCLAIMER: I AM A TOTAL MORON, DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING I SAY SERIOUSLY OR YOUR FACE MAY IMPLODE, AND YOUR BRAIN WILL EXPLODE. ALSO, I DO TAKE MYSELF SERIOUSLY, SO DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING I SAY FORGRANTED, OR I WILL REMOVE YOUR HANDS AND EAT THEM IN MY CHILI.
Actually, The Onion created fake news, and it's even funnier than The Daily Show.

I'm waiting for the day when all the democratic primaries are nothing but comedians - Al Franken, Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert.


And what a grand day it will be.

I'm waiting for the day when all the democratic primaries are nothing but comedians - Al Franken, Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert.


And what a grand day it will be.

Sad thing is they are better for america than the people who are actually serious.

Actually, The Onion created fake news, and it's even funnier than The Daily Show.

Actually, Craig Kilborn was the host before Jon Stewart.

Sad thing is they are better for america than the people who are actually serious.

It's because they have seen it from a satirical point of view and have proven themselves to be people of character and morals. Through their comedy and their tv shows, people have come to know them personally. A comedian essentially bares his soul on stage - I'd like to meet a politician that did half that.

I chose Colbert, because since the 2004 election Jon's been moving more to the left, whereas I REALLY enjoyed in the past when he bashed both parties with equal glee.

The left has to DO something for him to bash.

I chose Colbert, because since the 2004 election Jon's been moving more to the left, whereas I REALLY enjoyed in the past when he bashed both parties with equal glee.

the bashing of both parties goes on still, in much the same form as always. it was never a 'centrist' bashing. it was always a leftist bashing. on the one hand you have the evil and incompetent party, and on the other you have the stupid, ineffectual, and incompetent party, with delightful smatterings of sheer idiocy and looniness spread all around. if it looks tilted more now, it's cause the evil incompetents are being particularly both, while the ineffectuals are so ineffectual that there ain't much to talk about.

Actually, The Onion created fake news, and it's even funnier than The Daily Show.
Pfffft! Even Mark Twain used to do fake news.

Kids these days, eh!

Pfffft! Even Mark Twain used to do fake news.

Kids these days, eh!
I was under the impression the Mark Twain's newspaper satirically lampooned actual events, rather than make up stories based on real stories and then satirically lampoon them.

Jon Stewart pwns!

The way he ate Bill Bennett alive on The Daily Show was a spectacular thing to watch.

Jon Stewart.

But DC is a close second place ;)

I was under the impression the Mark Twain's newspaper satirically lampooned actual events, rather than make up stories based on real stories and then satirically lampoon them.
There was less media to make fun of back in those days, they didn't have it as easy. But they all did pretty much the same.

Well, DCD, i voted for you ... i know you try harder ... :D

you need them both. its the best one two punch on tv.

The left has no source material until they actually get seats in government. And really, Bush says something retarded everyday.

Yeah, but I can make fun of Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy all day long, just as well as any GOP'ers... (oh wait, that's like picking on the short kid at class, isn't it?!?) ;)

Yeah, but I can make fun of Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy all day long, just as well as any GOP'ers... (oh wait, that's like picking on the short kid at class, isn't it?!?) ;)
Yes, and just as typically right-wing in scope. Don't forget the name-calling, too.

the bashing of both parties goes on still, in much the same form as always. it was never a 'centrist' bashing. it was always a leftist bashing. on the one hand you have the evil and incompetent party, and on the other you have the stupid, ineffectual, and incompetent party, with delightful smatterings of sheer idiocy and looniness spread all around. if it looks tilted more now, it's cause the evil incompetents are being particularly both, while the ineffectuals are so ineffectual that there ain't much to talk about.

Yeah, I guess. I'm pretty central, and it just felt more balanced in 2003ish. Must be because that's when the DEMs actually had a part of Congress.

Colbert: ...and when the dust cleared, it was revealed that both mugs were shattered, now no one will ever know who is worlds greatest grandpa. *May not be word for word srry*

Probably because I've never heard of them.

They're Canadian.

They're Canadian.
That's probably why I've never heard of them. We Americans don't keep up with what goes on in foreign countries. Plus foreign languages confuse me. What do "oout" and "eh" mean anyway?

That's probably why I've never heard of them. We Americans don't keep up with what goes on in foreign countries. Plus foreign languages confuse me. What do "oout" and "eh" mean anyway?

Eh is like 'huh'. I don't use the sound oout, so I can't explain it to you.

i am so in live with the Daily Show.

it is my all-time favorite for sure.

it's better than Whose Line Is It Anyway?

Colbert is meh....okay, i guess.

he was freaking awesome at the White House Correspodance Dinner with his roast of George Bush.

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Eh is like 'huh'. I don't use the sound oout, so I can't explain it to you.

*nodnod* I use 'Eh' all the time...Also, half my change is Canadian. Which says a bit about Michigan...

They are both great but if i had to choose one,it would be Colbet for his secion on the show called,"The Word".
They would make a great running team for president.I can see it now .

Vote Stewart and Colbert in 2008! :D

I prefer Colbert, they're both pretty good, but Stewart's interviews are nowhere near as amusing. He approaches his guests with too much seriousness (brown nosing or debating, depending on who it is).
Watching people try to relate seriously to Colbert while he is in character, however, is one of the best parts of his show.

I prefer Colbert, they're both pretty good, but Stewart's interviews are nowhere near as amusing. He approaches his guests with too much seriousness (brown nosing or debating, depending on who it is).
Watching people try to relate seriously to Colbert while he is in character, however, is one of the best parts of his show.
Colbert's interviews are a clear win, but John is so much funnier during the rest of the show.

I think Stewart and Colbert are the two funniest guys on television, and I agree with both of their views the majority of the time. They've always worked well together, and the Colbert Report is the perfect compliment to the Daily Show. I'm voting for Stewart only because he's the executive producer of both shows, and the Daily Show, to some degree, makes the Colbert Report possible.