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Odd Titanic coincidence

Avika
07-06-2006, 04:27
I was reading about the Titanic, again. I finally decided to discuss this weird coincidence.

In 1898, An American writer named Morgan Robertson wrote a book titled "The Wreck of the Titan". In the story, a ship named the "Titan" sails from England on its maiden voyage. Destination? New York. Along the way, the ship strikes an ice burg and sinks. Because of a lack of life boats, many lives are lost.

The Titan was said to be unsinkable.
It was the largest ship in the world.

In 1912, a ship called the "Titanic" sails from England for New York on its maiden voyage. Along the way, it strikes an ice burg and sinks. Because of a lack of life boats, 1500 passengers and crew died, compared to 700-800 survivors.

The Titanic was said to be unsinkable.
At the time, it was the largest in the world.

The coincidences?
names: Titan. Titanic. Titanic was Titan with White star's trademark "ic" at the end.
locations: Both left England for New York.
events: Both sank on their maiden voyages after hitting an ice burg. Both had too few life boats, resulting in many deaths.
Both were called unsinkable and were the world's largest(at the time).

Weird.
Defiantland
07-06-2006, 04:29
I didn't know the stuff about this "Titan"... do you have a source (I don't like believing everything I hear)?
Dobbsworld
07-06-2006, 04:32
I'd heard about this before...
Neo Kervoskia
07-06-2006, 04:35
It was clearly the work and will of Allah.
Avika
07-06-2006, 04:46
sources:
Titanic by Leo Marriott
"Exploring the Titanic" by Robert D. Ballard

The latter was written by the guy who found the Titanic wreck site in '86.
Bodies Without Organs
07-06-2006, 04:51
The Titanic was said to be unsinkable.

Nah. It was said to be 'practically unsinkable'.

I did actually read The Wreck Of The Titan a few years back: entertaining enough in its way.
New Zealandium
07-06-2006, 05:06
From what i've heard about that very odd coincidence, The time of year the fictional boat launched was the same as well.
Ever wonder why people don't make a big fuss when a book is released and it has no relevance to any events?
Bejerot
07-06-2006, 05:25
For those who wish to read it (http://www.msu.edu/~daggy/cop/effluvia/twott-t.htm).
Ginnoria
07-06-2006, 05:30
Both Abraham Lincoln and John F Kennedy were succeeded by men named Johnson.

Lincoln took office in 1860, Kennedy in 1960.

:eek:
Demented Hamsters
07-06-2006, 14:34
Had the impact been received by a perpendicular wall the elastic resistance of bending plates and frames would have overcome the momentum with no more damage to the passengers than a severe shaking up, and to the ship than the crushing in of her bows and the killing, to a man, of the watch below. She would have backed off, and slightly down by the head, finished the voyage at reduced speed to rebuild on insurance money, and benefit, largely, in the end, by the consequent advertising of her indestructibility.
A bit more spooky coincidence here.
I read a few years back that the Titanic was heading straight for the iceberg and they desperately tried to swerve to avoid it, thus gashing their whole side.
Thing is, because of the way the Titanic was constructed, it's viewed that if they had run straight into the 'berg, the ship wouldn't have sunk. It would have crushed the bow, killed a few but still would have stayed afloat and would have managed to make it to NY.
Pretty much exactly what he says above.
Londim
07-06-2006, 14:40
Well that is freaky. Maybe the author was a psychic:eek:
Aekus
07-06-2006, 15:20
The coincidences?
names: Titan. Titanic. Titanic was Titan with White star's trademark "ic" at the end.
locations: Both left England for New York.
events: Both sank on their maiden voyages after hitting an ice burg. Both had too few life boats, resulting in many deaths.
Both were called unsinkable and were the world's largest(at the time).
Weird.
Actually, in the book the Titan did not sink on her maiden voyage (and she departed from New York, not the opposite).
She had beaten all records on her maiden voyage, but, up to the third return trip, had not lowered the time between Sandy Hook and Daunt's Rock to the five-day limit; and it was unofficially rumored among the two thousand passengers who had embarked at New York that an effort would now be made to do so.
Nadkor
07-06-2006, 23:07
Nah. It was said to be 'practically unsinkable'.


And by some newspaper, not by Harland and Wolff (as alot of people incorrectly believe...)
Dinaverg
07-06-2006, 23:10
Well, It doesn't seem very odd. I can only imagine England to New York (and the return) was a very common trip. Titan, and derivitives of it, not a very odd thing to name a boat. Making the "largest in the world" of something? Everyone does that. Icebergs? Those are always around aren't they?
Bodies Without Organs
08-06-2006, 00:41
And by some newspaper, not by Harland and Wolff (as alot of people incorrectly believe...)

True, but when you come down to it, I think we are safe in saying that few people around the world with just a passing interest in the Titanic even know who/what Harland & Wolff are, nevermind what they may or may not have said.
Nadkor
08-06-2006, 00:49
True, but when you come down to it, I think we are safe in saying that few people around the world with just a passing interest in the Titanic even know who/what Harland & Wolff are, nevermind what they may or may not have said.

Fair point, really.
Sel Appa
08-06-2006, 00:51
Seen it...theres also the book about tht e ficitonal war of US vs. JApan with a General MacArthur losing battles at first, but eventually overcoming and defeating the JApanese.