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Bill Clinton should be arrested and tried for treason. During the early years of his administration he actually gave US nuclear technology to Nrth Korea in an attempt to bribe them not to build nuclear weapons. This was pointed out time and time again during the presidential campaign of 2000. We need to be tough with our enemies and not try to bribe them. This only leads to more rouge behavior if we continue to act like sissys on the world stage. Below is an article from the early ninties when Clinton decided to sell out the US to North Korea.


U.S. offers Iran nuclear technology as incentive
World powers offer reward package to persuade Tehran to curb enrichment
Updated: 50 minutes ago

TEHRAN, Iran - World powers on Tuesday gave Iran a package of incentives that includes U.S. nuclear technology to persuade Tehran to curb its uranium enrichment program, and the Islamic republic’s initial reaction was relatively upbeat.

Speaking on state television after receiving the proposals, top Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani said the initiative contains “positive steps” but also some “ambiguities.”

Larijani, who met with European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, called the talks “constructive” and said Iran would respond after studying the incentives.

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You need to go back and look at your opening post, because something is seriously not making sense there.

And treason is a really fucking strong charge to make at someone, since it involves attempting to overthrow the legitimate government of the US--much as I dislike Bush, I've never accused him of that, and to say that this--whatever you're arguing--rises to that level is ludicrous.

You need to go back and look at your opening post, because something is seriously not making sense there.

And treason is a really fucking strong charge to make at someone, since it involves attempting to overthrow the legitimate government of the US--much as I dislike Bush, I've never accused him of that, and to say that this--whatever you're arguing--rises to that level is ludicrous.
Damn. Did I post the wrong article? :confused: Shit. I thought I was reading something from the Clinton Administration. :(

I can see why yer grandfather rode camels!

We need to be tough with our enemies and not try to bribe them.

Newsflash: Neither N. Korea, nor Iran, are our enemies. Somebody not liking you is not enough to consider them your enemy. Unless, that is, you're an extremist who believes that anyone who doesn't stand screaming "JESUS BLESS AMERICA!" from the mountaintops is an enemy.

Your argument has no point. Thus, it must be sarcasm, and thus I give you the Stewie laugh: HAHAHAHAHAHA!

:p

Your sarcasm is too much for us mere mortals.

Damn. Did I post the wrong article? :confused: Shit. I thought I was reading something from the Clinton Administration. :(
Ah. Sorry. Sometimes I have to step in it to find it, but I never claimed to be a genius.

Newsflash: Neither N. Korea, nor Iran, are our enemies. Somebody not liking you is not enough to consider them your enemy. Unless, that is, you're an extremist who believes that anyone who doesn't stand screaming "JESUS BLESS AMERICA!" from the mountaintops is an enemy.

Your argument has no point. Thus, it must be sarcasm, and thus I give you the Stewie laugh: HAHAHAHAHAHA!

:p

Your sarcasm is too much for us mere mortals.

Ah. Sorry. Sometimes I have to step in it to find it, but I never claimed to be a genius.
Sometimes I forget that sarcasm isn't as easily read as it is heard. Alas, another of humanity's shortcomings to lament. :(

i gotta say, i would rather have a president who gets action like clinton, than an idiot who fucks our country up so bad by sending us to "war" in iraq. oh wait, i forgot, it ISN'T a war. a war is when countries fight against each other....this is just an invasion.:headbang:

What is going on in this thread?

Sometimes I forget that sarcasm isn't as easily read as it is heard. Alas, another of humanity's shortcomings to lament. :(
Thus, the invention of the rolled-eye smiley, often known to arouse great anger when used in the "you're such a stupid fuck you can't remember how to breathe on your own" mode, but also an excellent sarcasm tag.

Seriously, there was an article a couple of months ago on how that very problem has led to major problems inside businesses because co-workers didn't realize their friends were joking and such.

What is going on in this thread?
I underplayed my sarcasm and it doesn't seem to be getting through to people. It's my fault. :(

I underplayed my sarcasm and it doesn't seem to be getting through to people. It's my fault. :(

Yeah your original post just seems like youre a little confused.

Thus, the invention of the rolled-eye smiley, often known to arouse great anger when used in the "you're such a stupid fuck you can't remember how to breathe on your own" mode, but also an excellent sarcasm tag.

Seriously, there was an article a couple of months ago on how that very problem has led to major problems inside businesses because co-workers didn't realize their friends were joking and such.
And I own a message board that has been very popular but is down right now. I shoudl have learned my own lesson. I kinda wanted to make it a little subtle, though. I wanted people to think I was serious and then catch on when they read the article. A rolly eye purple face would have given it away too easily.

I underplayed my sarcasm and it doesn't seem to be getting through to people. It's my fault. :(

Oh I understood it alright! :)

having said all that, back to the point. Because Bush was arrogant enough and incompetent enough to, well, Iraq the fuck up, the US is now in a position to have to do for Iran what we did for North Korea a decade or so ago. The US and Europe are now in a position of having to negotiate with Iran from a position of weakness, not strength, and it's all because we look like a paper tiger in Iraq.

having said all that, back to the point. Because Bush was arrogant enough and incompetent enough to, well, Iraq the fuck up, the US is now in a position to have to do for Iran what we did for North Korea a decade or so ago. The US and Europe are now in a position of having to negotiate with Iran from a position of weakness, not strength, and it's all because we look like a paper tiger in Iraq.
Ooooh! So that's what you meant!

*Slaps forhead*

He is so very rone-ry


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Treason!

You have all been reported to the Department of Homeland Security, persuant to §103.122 of the Patriot Act. Have a good day

Sincerely,

Albert Gonzales
Attourney General

Bush and Co. are doing it right now...

Sometimes I forget that sarcasm isn't as easily read as it is heard. Alas, another of humanity's shortcomings to lament. :(

Hey ... I noticed. :p

You might be interested to know the nuclear technology the US is keen to spread around is one that avoids a costly Uranium enrichment cycle. A process which is both fantastically intensive, and is a crucial step in producing nuclear weapons. It's an excellent sieve, those that are interested in nuclear technology to solve and economic problem are neatly seperated from those with other motivations.

You might be interested to know the nuclear technology the US is keen to spread around is one that avoids a costly Uranium enrichment cycle. A process which is both fantastically intensive, and is a crucial step in producing nuclear weapons. It's an excellent sieve, those that are interested in nuclear technology to solve and economic problem are neatly seperated from those with other motivations.
I absolutely agree and Bill Clinton did it right. By giving North Korea free light water reactors he was essentially calling their bluff. At that point they had to either admit they were building nukes or accept the reactors and stop processing the fuel. What I object to is the Bush admin's use of that in calling Clinton, and by extension Gore, weak and then turning around and doing the same thing. Especially in light of the fact that, had he been a little smarter in dealing with Iraq, either by avoiding a needless war or fighting it correctly, we probably wouldn't even be in this position. Now we ARE weak. Iran started blustering about nuclear tech about a year ago when it became clear we were over our heads in Iraq. Interesting timing.

Bill Clinton should be arrested and tried for treason. During the early years of his administration he actually gave US nuclear technology to Nrth Korea in an attempt to bribe them not to build nuclear weapons. This was pointed out time and time again during the presidential campaign of 2000. We need to be tough with our enemies and not try to bribe them. This only leads to more rouge behavior if we continue to act like sissys on the world stage. Below is an article from the early ninties when Clinton decided to sell out the US to North Korea.
Interesting you would call Clinton a traitor when Bush is doing the exact same thing with Iran.

I don't blame the current administration for the Republican thwarting of a reasonable foriegn policy under Clinton. That was entirely a legislative problem. That the current administration, in the light of practically uncountable failures of spectacular magnitude at nearly every level in every arena is trying to do one thing well.... I'm not sure I can hold their attempt to do the right thing against them, even if it does smack of Republican hypocrisy.

In truth, I bare at least some responsibility for the failing. With all the Title IX bullshit, the check writing scandal, et al, I voted for the republican legislators and their "Contract with America." Fiscal responsability, ending the social engineering bullshit, bringing integrity back into politics. An intoxicating message for a young man. Little did I imagine the fantastic liars they would eventually be revealed to be.

Damn. Did I post the wrong article? :confused: Shit. I thought I was reading something from the Clinton Administration. :(
No, instead you were posting something about the Bush administration trying to bribe Iran to stop the enrichment of uranium with nuclear weapons technology.
Well done, who's the traitor now?

No, instead you were posting something about the Bush administration trying to bribe Iran to stop the enrichment of uranium with nuclear weapons technology.
Well done, who's the traitor now?
Nethier, but Bush is certainly the bigger fool and while Clinton did not make his bed with North Korea Bush certainly did in Iran.

Bill Clinton should be arrested and tried for treason.


You really should make this your signature.

I think it is a great summary of your approach to posting on this forum.

Interesting you would call Clinton a traitor when Bush is doing the exact same thing with Iran.
I think that was his point.

You really should make this your signature.

I think it is a great summary of your approach to posting on this forum.
You should actually read this thread.

As a non-American, Billy boy is my favourite US President.

I absolutely agree and Bill Clinton did it right. By giving North Korea free light water reactors he was essentially calling their bluff. At that point they had to either admit they were building nukes or accept the reactors and stop processing the fuel. What I object to is the Bush admin's use of that in calling Clinton, and by extension Gore, weak and then turning around and doing the same thing. Especially in light of the fact that, had he been a little smarter in dealing with Iraq, either by avoiding a needless war or fighting it correctly, we probably wouldn't even be in this position. Now we ARE weak. Iran started blustering about nuclear tech about a year ago when it became clear we were over our heads in Iraq. Interesting timing.
This is the danger of internet subtlety--you're getting bitched around in your own thread and no one is actually reading the substantive threads. I don't feel so bad now--at least I admitted to confusion rather than jumping your shit immediately. :)

Erm.. you do realise only 20 years ago saddam recieved aid from America in the Iran-Iraq war, and america also supported osama and what was going to be the taliban against the russians. Trust me if what you said constitutes treason then a lot of presidents (democrat or republican) would have been locked up long ago.

Bill Clinton should be arrested and tried for treason. During the early years of his administration he actually gave US nuclear technology to Nrth Korea in an attempt to bribe them not to build nuclear weapons. This was pointed out time and time again during the presidential campaign of 2000. We need to be tough with our enemies and not try to bribe them. This only leads to more rouge behavior if we continue to act like sissys on the world stage. Below is an article from the early ninties when Clinton decided to sell out the US to North Korea.

That's only the tip of the iceberg.

Erm.. you do realise only 20 years ago saddam recieved aid from America in the Iran-Iraq war, and america also supported osama and what was going to be the taliban against the russians. Trust me if what you said constitutes treason then a lot of presidents (democrat or republican) would have been locked up long ago.
Hint: read the whole thread. You don't even have to read it carefully--just read it.

Hint: read the whole thread. You don't even have to read it carefully--just read it.
It's actually kinda fun because I get to rant.

That's only the tip of the iceberg.
Care to elaborate?

You should actually read this thread.


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ITSTHEENDOFTHEWORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GONNAGIVENUCLEARBOMBSTOTHECOMMIEIRANIANS

ITSTHEENDOFTHEWORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a stupid thing to say. Why would you think that?

Newsflash: Neither N. Korea, nor Iran, are our enemies. Somebody not liking you is not enough to consider them your enemy. Unless, that is, you're an extremist who believes that anyone who doesn't stand screaming "JESUS BLESS AMERICA!" from the mountaintops is an enemy.

Your argument has no point. Thus, it must be sarcasm, and thus I give you the Stewie laugh: HAHAHAHAHAHA!

:p
Iran is our enemy. People who've repeatedly attacked our military personel abroad and planted terrorist cells on our soil are not friends.

Iran is our enemy. People who've repeatedly attacked our military personel abroad and planted terrorist cells on our soil are not friends.

Yeah, any nation who calls us "Great Satan" and who funds terrorists against us worldwide is definitely not our friend...and a nation who attacked us and kidnapped hundreds of citizens from our allies (like NK) isn't one either. They are our enemies, and if they could they would do anything in their power to weaken or even kill us.

Hell, that doesn't include the billions in aid dollars the North Koreans steal or misappropriate from us or the loans they never paid back...and doesn't even include the people starving because the nutjobs in Pyongyang use the threat of US attack to support their massive army.

Also, giving light-water reactors to NK in exchange for no nukes is a good idea in agreement with the OP.

Thus, the invention of the rolled-eye smiley, often known to arouse great anger when used in the "you're such a stupid fuck you can't remember how to breathe on your own" mode, but also an excellent sarcasm tag.

Seriously, there was an article a couple of months ago on how that very problem has led to major problems inside businesses because co-workers didn't realize their friends were joking and such.
Yeah, he's right. USE IT CAREFULLY!!!!!
Because if you get angry about it, THIS could happen to you: http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/angry/newburn.gif

Yeah, he's right. USE IT CAREFULLY!!!!!
Because if you get angry about it, THIS could happen to you: http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/angry/newburn.gif

omg :eek:

omg :eek:


I know, interesting, isn't it?

I know, interesting, isn't it?

It changes color and emotion, and then...holy shit...burns up!!!

I know, interesting, isn't it?But I wanted it to be more subtle!!!! :(

It changes color and emotion, and then...holy shit...burns up!!!


Yeah! Here's another one!: http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/monsieurboo/bilboquet.gif

But I wanted it to be more subtle!!!! :(
What does subtle mean?

What does subtle mean?
Subtle is when you don't make something obvious but instead.....



Oh.....


:confused:

Yeah! Here's another one!: http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/monsieurboo/bilboquet.gif

i don't even want to know what that smiley is doing...

i don't even want to know what that smiley is doing...
I think it's supposed to be a keg pump. I hope it's supposed to be a keg pump.

I think it's supposed to be a keg pump. I hope it's supposed to be a keg pump.
sit and spinning comes to mind... except it's not spinning.

Six years he's been out of office and some Republicans still can't get over the fact that they couldn't make anything stick to Slick Willy. :)

Six years he's been out of office and some Republicans still can't get over the fact that they couldn't make anything stick to Slick Willy. :)
They'll figure out a way to blame this on him.

"If Clinton had been toughre on the Iranians we'd not have this mess today."

Treason can only happen under a time of war and if they pursue an active military role against the USA.

Considering we are not offically at war now with terror or Iraq nor during Clinton...this can't happen to him.

Newsflash: Neither N. Korea, nor Iran, are our enemies. Somebody not liking you is not enough to consider them your enemy. Unless, that is, you're an extremist who believes that anyone who doesn't stand screaming "JESUS BLESS AMERICA!" from the mountaintops is an enemy.

Your argument has no point. Thus, it must be sarcasm, and thus I give you the Stewie laugh: HAHAHAHAHAHA!

:p
Nations that aren't are enemies don't say they'll wipe Israel off the map.

Bill Clinton should be arrested and tried for treason. During the early years of his administration he actually gave US nuclear technology to Nrth Korea in an attempt to bribe them not to build nuclear weapons. This was pointed out time and time again during the presidential campaign of 2000. We need to be tough with our enemies and not try to bribe them. This only leads to more rouge behavior if we continue to act like sissys on the world stage. Below is an article from the early ninties when Clinton decided to sell out the US to North Korea.

Personally, I think the whole blowjob thing was much worse... Everyone knows that people who do such unspeakable horribly evil unnatural things are treacherous liberal satanic commie-hippies.

Nations that aren't are enemies don't say they'll wipe Israel off the map.

Why not? That's between them and Israel.

Bilboquet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilboquet)i don't even want to know what that smiley is doing...

Personally, I think the whole blowjob thing was much worse... Everyone knows that people who do such unspeakable horribly evil unnatural things are treacherous liberal satanic commie-hippies.
He gave Kim Il Sung a blowjob, too? I thought he only gave them nuke tech.